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welcome to vintage video where we're

reviewing every major film release of

the 1980s in real time

i'm patrick o'reilly i'm jesse bayless

and i'm richard wells and today marks

the 40th anniversary of the release of

windows on february 18th

1980 it was written by barry siegel

directed by gordon willis and released

by united artists

this movie was protested upon its

release

for its uh portrayal of lesbians as

insane people which i think was a common

theme for movies

uh it's a problem that affected cruising

also later this year um and uh

and i remember distinctly that when da

vinci's code came out that

um there were protests because i hadn't

realized it but

um albino people were like always

villains in movies right right

and uh what about powder

powder was a rapist the guy who directed

the movie was though oh

he was he directed because of powder

no i think he he directed powder

afterwards

and then came out and directed jeepers

creepers

that sounds great what a ride quite a

life that fella has

led um this movie was nominated for five

razzies pictures screenplay actress

supporting actress and director

didn't win any i don't think it deserved

any of those razzles that's a that's a

pretty impressive list of nominations

though yeah no it's almost the big five

if there was a dude the big the big the

pig five of

razzies yeah it almost one flew over the

cuckoo's nested

the razzies did that was that did that

get the big five

uh i'm not sure if we got the big fight

i know uh

louise fletcher for sure yeah i think it

did

it happened one night that and silence

of the lambs maybe

but it kind of says a lot about this

movie that the male leads

performance did not warrant a rezzy so

he is literally the best part of the

movie

mathematically yeah gee i wonder what

the jury of the razzies is made up of

my guess is a bunch of dudes

um the soundtrack was provided by ennio

moricone

but it doesn't save the film

no and i and i think i feel like this

was his like let me see what i have in

the desk drawer here

i think he did that again for hatefully

completely unmemorable for me because

yeah

i'm trying to think now of what the

score was like i forgot we saw his name

come up at the beginning

and now i just when i went to call it at

all yeah when i rewatched the movie i

was like oh that's fine i forgot i'm

gonna pay

closer attention i totally missed the

whole score the second time i was like

no there's nothing here

and i disagree with your hateful league

comment he didn't deserve the oscar for

it it should have gone to fury road for

sure i don't know if it deserved the

oscar but i

enjoy the hateful aid and the score it's

all right

um we open in this cool dark

spiral with neon colors at a children's

museum

is that what that is yeah okay it's a

it's a famous children's museum in new

york i didn't know either until i was

watching it the second time and

paid closer attention i was like where

does she work is i thought it was an

aquarium

her and her uh husband or ex-husband

the the divorce isn't final but yeah um

although it seems like it is

and uh like as far as they're both

concerned

well she broke it off with him verbally

at in this first shot

they're standing in this tunnel and she

says steven we're getting a divorce

and over the rest of the movie she like

calls him occasionally but no one ever

signs any paperwork that we say so

um but yeah so she says i want a divorce

and leaves so i feel like the husband

here is is

do you think that he's sort of meant to

be like a bit of a red herring

like for the film i didn't get that

point it's entirely possible

but it seems like every time she calls

him he's like busy like

with a team of people assembling some

weird plexiglas jungle gym at the museum

yeah i'm not disagreeing with you i'm

i'm right i'm

going over in my mind and go hmm i

wonder if that is what the intention was

well i mean i it probably wasn't very

well done if that was the intention but

i did kept

thinking keep thinking throughout the

the film that i'm like oh are they gonna

come back to him like is

he is he setting this whole thing up to

you know get back at her because he

seemed

upset about this it seems like they also

don't maintain the mystery for very long

though because by the end of the first

act we already know who was

behind what's going on i guess it's

possible he's like

a co-conspirator or something yeah yeah

um

but she immediately after asking for a

divorce goes straight home

and is attacked immediately upon

entering her apartment by a man with a

switchback brutally attacked

who doesn't turn lights on

when they enter their home she just

walks everyone in this entire movie

because this

whole movie is that's true super super

dark and when there is light

like it's very harsh shadows like cast

like you know light just on half their

faces so that they're

you know very much in shadow yeah trying

to be very artistic here

well this is directed by a

cinematographer right

this is his only direction yeah all of

those things make sense

it's actually not poorly shot though um

and there's a lot of really interesting

shots like when she's like landing on

the window of the new apartment

yeah and it's like backing away i

thought it was at least interestingly

like

composed but um it

may be a little overly dramatic some of

these shots

so the guy that's attacking her in her

apartment sets down a tape recorder

and hits record and then puts a

switchblade like up to her chin

and is demanding that she make these

weird like sexual noises

and say yes right

and he has her like pull her shirt down

right or something like that he cuts her

bra straps

and then i wasn't clear if it went any

further than that yeah i'm not sure

either because the police aren't there

until the following morning but we cut

from that to uh emily's friend andrea

just running

right i mean it was pretty dramatic as

it is i'm not saying that it needs no

any more than that i mean he's shoving

literally shoving a knife down her

throat

but the extent of the assault isn't

really made clear

yeah um and we're on uh

andrea the the room uh next door

neighbor

for so long that i was thought it was

her

i think i was like yeah i'm confused

what's happening is this yeah i thought

we were just cutting to her jogging the

next day

yes exactly like is this like a i was

like i was

because it's so long yeah it's such a

long

running across the bridge right and we

haven't seen this other

character at all yet long long enough at

least not in

any amount of daylight to really know

what she looks like so it's it is

confusing when they cut

to the to the first time we see um

yeah i keep getting gonna keep saying

andrea but what do they call it

andrea andrea yeah all the andreas we

know pronounce it andrea

um so i'm just gonna keep saying andrea

so um

but yeah she basically jogs up to the

apartment right as the police are

leaving

and uh or some police are leaving um but

there's still two in the apartment

um there's uh lefrono and

a female police officer who isn't really

participating in the questioning

and emily seems unable to answer their

questions we couldn't possibly give a

female officer lines or anything like

that

right we don't even ever see her leave

the apartment that was a really awkward

moment when

after he leaves like we didn't we didn't

we never go back to the female officer

and we never see her leave and there's

just like

i mean i i guess kudos to them for

having a female officer there

so i guess in 1980 they were still

cognizant of the fact that it'd probably

be a good idea to do that

but you know it she was so

so forgotten in the scene that they

don't even ever leave the apartment

well and her her lines of like we we

understand how hard this can be

it's like yeah and the the male officer

is not

very kind with her when he's questioning

her

no and his his questions like he also

makes some weird comments because

up until now we haven't heard emily do

any stuttering doesn't mean she didn't

have a starter the whole time but we

haven't heard it

and it seems like in the wake of this

assault a stutter that she has been

dealing with has come back

she has all these books about learning

to talk with a stutter

yeah and i was unclear so

like you said they they show the books

with the stutter about the stuttering

and

they make they hang on it for a while so

you get the can read each one

right whenever she does stutter it just

sounds more like she's being

awkward because it's always just like a

well

well maybe i'll do that later like it's

never

i don't think that the it's not a very

authentic studied the

an authentic stutter yeah but i don't

know if they were going for

the sense that she

is well versed in and she's she's not a

point with her stutter that she can

control it mostly

and now it just kind of comes out

because i thought for sure there was

going to be this great climactic moment

where she's in danger

and she's trying to get on the phone and

she's trying and she's too panicked

to focus on her stutter that she can't

get the information across

or the stutter was going to come into

play that would be really great they

should have put that in this movie

instead they were just like how come

nobody stutters in movies i'm going to

make one of these people stutter let me

throw a dart randomly at the script

yeah i mean it doesn't need to be

michael palin in a fish called wanda

this is the best movie stutter though

the best stutter ever

but uh it needed to be more than just i

think she's just an awkward shy girl

yeah right

but um it almost sounds from the way

that cop's talking to her like

that he's blaming the stutter for her

inability to tell them what happened

like i can't even tell if that's what

he's implying but he says like

oh i know that you're impaired or

something like that

i know that you're at a disadvantage

and i realize it's not gonna be easy for

you to give us a description

to describe what he did you're making

her nervous

like he puts it in a weird way where

it's like are you talking about the

assault are you literally making fun of

the way i talk

and saying that i can't explain to you

what happened yeah but his question i

knew questioning was just all around

pretty terrible there was a lot of

victim blaming

stuff in in not just this scene but some

of the other scenes

sure you know he makes her feel really

awful it's just like

well you should you should be more

careful and you should if you don't tell

us anything we're never going to catch

the guy and he's going to do it to other

people

or something like that you're just like

oh jesus christ like

way to make her feel so horrible that

she's not gonna be traumatized and not

gonna be able to answer you

i just don't want this to happen to

anyone else but at the end of the scene

he

he leaves his card and he leaves her in

the

in the apartment with andrea and then

andrea basically says like oh

why don't i get you a cup of coffee and

she's like would it be cool if you get

out of my apartment

i just want to be in here by myself for

the first time in 12 hours

well and and she also plants the seed of

you don't have to tell them anything

because they'll never catch them anyway

right like she's trying to which is

just as unhelpful as what the cop said i

love his card too which is just

a card that says where they are with it

like

it's just the address of the precinct

yeah yeah his name's just typed on there

like this here we just just throw it in

a typewriter and type your name a few

times if you need business cards

um but yeah so she after andrea leaves

she basically just packs up and moves to

another apartment

um it seems like she must have a lot of

money

like her and her husband work at a

children's museum but

she's able to maintain an apartment by

herself and then on top of that she gets

a second apartment

and a better like yeah and it's much

better and it's the cat-free apartment

she just goes and signs up for another

apartment and the guy's like remember no

pets and she's like oh i guess i have to

keep both apartments

because my cat lives in the other one oh

i didn't get that from that

scene at all i think she was just like

oh okay and

she was going to continue moving and

then sneak the cat in and it meowed in

the elevator and like the lady was like

staring at her like you know this is a

you know free place and then yeah she

brought the cat to the other apartment

which is what later she's you know it

disappears

and that's right the officer is there at

a new apartment

and says caesar with the bags you can

let the cat out of the bag now

yeah but i also like how condescending

it is like

it's like well this place will look

really nice when you fix it up and i was

like

fix it up it looks fine yeah like what

is this as clean as it's ever going to

be

i have to put stuff in here now i have a

cat but yeah she

she emily meets her new neighbors

because her phone's not set up yet she

asks if she can borrow their phone

and she tries to call steven but

realizes as soon as she calls him that

these two people are

super rude and sitting there hanging on

every word of the conversation

awkward conversation with your about to

be ex-husband

right but i think all she was calling to

say was i moved to a different apartment

if you're trying to reach me

well she wanted help moving she wanted

him to send people from the museum to

help her move

yeah but he's like we're too busy i

can't i don't have to yeah and

that seems like a pretty big ask but

something else happened in the last 24

hours that she doesn't mention to him

that might affect

his answer to that question but um

instead he's just like whatever

just go live where you're gonna live and

uh and then she hangs up and she's like

thanks for letting me use your phone

there's a pay phone downstairs yeah um

and she's like sorry i didn't know um

but i think that was just

mostly to introduce these two neighbors

at the same time a show like this

uncomfortable situation she's been put

in

right after she leaves the apartment of

her neighbors we get

this shot of andrea sitting in a car

listening to the tape that the attacker

made

so from this point on we know that she

was involved and

right here was where my like immediately

i was like oh so she paid that guy to do

that because she's like obsessed with

her

yeah and then you keep thinking oh it's

going to get deeper than that though

there's going to be like other

layers to this and it's like no no

that's the extent of the whole that's

the only layer so the last twist has

happened already

it's one of those onions that only has

one layer

i think they're called funyuns

i guess they don't really have layers i

don't know that the the rapey movie is

called

funyuns that was actually the original

title

and then they were like well they were

sued

by lays but it is called windows

for not very good reasons you want to

know why it's called windows

because sometimes the apartments have

windows

that's part of it also the director was

a fan of the title windows

and they almost used it on the movie

interiors which he was a cinematographer

for

for woody allen's interiors yeah and

they threw out the title and he's like i

always like that title i'm gonna make a

movie and call it windows

it's a good place to start start with

the title that's that's only how boulder

dash movies come to be

well you know what they say windows are

the eyes to your apartment

you get to flip it completely around i

want that i want a poster of this movie

though

now with that tag line whatever their

tagline was it wasn't that good

um so now emily goes back to her house

to get some stuff

and to try and call steve again in the

privacy of an apartment

and uh andrea shows up and she knocks on

the door

and uh and she lets her in

and they're talking for a minute and

then someone else knocks on the door

and she asked who it was the first time

right and waited

for andrea to answer but this time she

doesn't ask sh

and or she asks but doesn't wait for any

kind of a response

unless the latch undoes the latch and

opens the door even though

less than 24 hours ago she was attacked

in this apartment right and a hand comes

through the opening and just tries to

grab her

at which point it's like okay we already

know that andrea paid this person or

is at least involved in this person's

actions what is the benefit of having

this person come back oh well so she

could save her she wanted she wanted her

to trust

her friend so because andrea like it's

just so

dangerous to your plot to have the guy

come back to the scene of the car he

wanted to be the hero so she had him

come back

and she you know smashed his hands she

smashed his hand in the door

you know enough to get him to go away so

she

is able to demonstrate that she can pre

protect emily

yeah either way it just seemed like a

needless

endangering of the whole plot to have

the guy come back to the scene of the

crime

see i i did not get that it makes more

sense but i i just thought that he was

coming back

to uh to keep her get her to be quiet

like like that he's gonna kill her oh no

i think this was to cover up his what he

did

i mean obviously we know that you know

she's paying him

him and hired him so she wanted to put

on a show yeah so she asked him

strategically to come back when she was

there right that's like

i just cause because he comes in like

two minutes after her yeah but

i don't think she probably told him what

she was going to do but i

but then he sticks it out like he really

still tries even though she's

hurting him so it's impressive well

maybe after the first time she slammed

the door on his hand he was

legitimately that angry that he was like

all right i'm going to get in there now

i'm going to kill both of them yeah he

doesn't seem like the brightest bulb

no because he doesn't recognize her

later

right it's like the person that you've

met at least twice now

so after this happens they go to speak

to the police

uh she speaks to them at their office

and says the guy came back just sort of

fills the cops in on the whole situation

he came back but andrea was there

and stopped him and i'm i left the

apartment

um but she doesn't tell them where she's

going to and she well andrea at this

when when the guy was attacking was

trying to convince her it's like you

have to come live with me now

right like so i think that was kind of

her plan all along was to like

scare her out of this apartment but like

so come live with me yeah um so she goes

back to her apartment

after she talks to the police and and

the doorman tells her oh your friend

brought all your stuff and she has your

cat

so um it's all up in your room she did

she made two trips and she brought

everything from your house

over here right super creepy like how

like i know how did you get the

new address right like she she just

vaguely said oh i moved across town like

it's on the other side of the bridge

like she didn't give her

any specifics so she figured that out

somehow

but so she's got all of her stuff except

for her cat so she decides she's going

to go back to andrea's place to get her

cat

and andre is like wearing a bathrobe and

drinking a big glass of wine and just

trying to seduce her into staying in

this in this much nicer house than even

her like upgraded apartment

like it's it's super fancy like it's a

rich high-end

yeah but is it the same building it's

the apartment across the hall

it's like that much bigger same building

no

okay she don't think so yeah because she

obviously calls her later she's like you

need to come down here like you need to

come all the way to my building and

she's like oh well

you know i'm not fully dressed like i

can't come to your apartment

and it's like if it was across the hall

she would just be like yeah i'll be

right there

but um but yeah so the next morning

um emily is leaving

her home again um and

she's she sees andrea and tells andre

that she's not going to see

she's not going to see this psychiatrist

anymore that andreas

dr marin dr maron like she's trying to

get them to both go to the same

psychiatrist or something

probably so that she can either get a

hold of her file

or try to squeeze dr marin for

information sure maybe that's what it

was it's kind of an

awkward meeting though because like it's

clear that emily wasn't

expecting her because she's just on her

way out of the building like running out

like to do something else and as

andrea's walking in as she's getting out

of a cab

right and then she flags that cab down

and then emily flakes the same cab down

that andrea just got out of and then it

seems like the connection is that

andrea uses this same cab driver all the

time

because well she was probably paying him

off or well yeah she was she was

so so when she gets so when emily gets

in this vehicle uh

into the cab she um you know has has

kind of keeps trying to have a

conversation with the cab driver

um you know until she realizes that

you know this is this was the man that

assaulted me and you know and then

so i think that the the implication

would be that andrea was meeting with

him and for some reason

in the cab and then got out but we're

intercutting back and forth with

um emily is in the cab with the man who

attacked her

driving it and andrea is

being crazy in her psychologist's office

right um

and she's like just sort of we're

getting

little bits and pieces of her character

motivation but yeah so at this point

emily realizes who who the cab driver is

she can see the

the injured hand she recognizes at least

the voice or his face and he says he

recognizes her yeah

uh so she asked to make a phone call and

i thought for sure

she would not get back in this cast yeah

i was like what

are you doing you have all the

information you need

well she can't drop a pin it's 1980 so

she can't like

be like hey i'm in a cab right now can

you guys come get him so she has to get

out and call on a payphone but

you don't know where the cab driver is

going to take you at this point because

he

has to be well if he doesn't recognize

her

then or i mean if he doesn't completely

recognize her

then he might just take her where she

asked him to take her but

she has the cab the cab company the cab

number

the guy's name she doesn't need yeah

this is more than enough information

right but instead she she doesn't want

to be awkward or look or make

it make him suspicious and so she gets

back in with him

and keeps going luckily

was she headed to the police station

well she just no she's heading to her

apartment

and she just tells him to stop somewhere

and the police are there

yeah because it gets to the point where

he's 100 sure who

who she is and so she tries to open the

door

and he slows the car down because he

doesn't want her to just fall out

for some reason he should have just

wanted her to follow yeah or just

stepped on the gas and

been like no you're not getting out of

this car now it's too late

but um but yeah so the cops

get the guy and they take him down to

the station

and then we get this weird quick scene

where he's like oh he says he was

working with someone else and he's

and he's not going to give up the name

unless we drop all the charges and it's

like

well no just tell them no because that's

not how crime works

and you also like maybe for a lighter

sentence you can give up like the person

that's in charge but we're not going to

drop all the charges

you're the one to get a second assailant

like we already have the assailant right

you're the one that committed the crime

any of your conspirators you know

although guilty didn't actually do it

they just paid you to do it

they could get a lighter sentence if

they gave you up but not the other way

around

right lefrono the cop keeps making house

calls to check on emily right and make

sure she's okay

and he's managed to figure out her new

address

he's getting really flirty with her the

cop is yeah because you know what's

always really good

is to take your assault victims out on a

date

that's like the first thing they teach

you in cop school is like

nothing gets a girl hotter than

attempted rape and so

they're immediately having a romantic

dinner together in her new apartment

right yeah and under the watchful eye

um and i love i love this trope of

the uh ring to let you know that you're

looking through a single

ocular device it's like no they're not

it's not binoculars because

it's not a venn diagram of visibility

this is

a circle so i know it's a telescope one

ring but we're like two-thirds of the

way through this movie before

we pull out the telescope which would be

the only indication

as to why this movie is called windows

yeah

um but we are getting like uh these rear

window style

shots of the side of her building well

she also grabs hold of the telescope as

she's looking through it it's like

don't touch it don't you don't you don't

touch it once you got it locked in

it's not gonna stay pointed at the

window it's gonna wobble all around

because later on we see how free-flowing

this telescope is it's

not very secure at all yeah you could

just like grab it off of the stand and

throw it around the room if you wanted

to

um but she sits there and watches them

have dinner

and after they dinner they watch a movie

now voyager

uh which is great on like a 10-inch

television

yeah um

i'm trying to remember what the line was

but at the end of the movie like the

characters have this really sad back and

forth where one of them says like

oh do you think you'll be happy here and

she's like oh let's not trouble

ourselves with whether or not i'll be

happy

and will you be happy

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it doesn't matter if i'm happy what

matters is we're together it's like no

no that's not what matters betty davis

no

uh but i love how she gets all despite

watching this on like 10 inches

of screen she's sobbing she's like

stopping like how could it's also like

10 feet away from them yeah the tv is

like on the opposite side of the room

she has no furniture but but it's like

just get on your

like lay on your belly and go up to the

tv

i have a laptop in my lap right now

that's bigger than that television i

have to have it this close to

see anything on it and then they have

this tv that's way far away

yeah um so

on their next date because they have

multiple dates in this apartment

emily pretends that she's out of coffee

because she's trying to get the

cop to leave because she wants to be

alone for the night just assaulted like

the guy

keeps like lingering like all right this

is gonna go anywhere it's like dude

give the girl some space but i love the

gesture she does to pretend she's out of

coffee because she takes this big coffee

can she's like

oh sorry i'm out of coffee and like

shakes it upside down like look nothing

fell out of it it's like why do you why

did you keep the can

why are you doing this and uh before he

can leave

she gets a phone call from andrea

watching them

but she doesn't say anything until the

phone is handed to the cop right andrea

doesn't say anything right andrea

doesn't say anything

um and she's like well that's weird

there's nobody on the phone

here you talk to nobody who gives the

phone to the cop

and then the cop hears a woman's voice

say

you stay away from her don't touch her

yeah

yeah and uh and he's like oh nobody and

then hangs it up

so but that's what threw you off throw

me off because when he's like oh

nobody's there you know maybe it was

just his line read or something like

that i'm like oh

oh crap like he's in on this too is she

like

they're fighting you know and they're

yeah that's what i was thinking like he

was like sent

in to try to like you know another

ploy on andrea's like you know to to

like

you know just make her rush back to her

arms and like but that's not what's

happening

that you know we keep i can't i just

didn't want to freak her out i kept

looking for some deeper

like you know plot here and it really is

oh here comes that twist we've been

waiting for

oh here's that interesting moment when

it's just like she wants to drive you

back to me

and like get you know no no none of that

no none of it

um so the next thing we see is her

getting home to her apartment and um or

no she's in the apartment

with ida her neighbor and she calls the

police and says hey so i'm here with ida

one of my neighbors and she says that

they heard weird sounds coming from my

apartment

and she sent her husband down to check

on it and he never came back

that was like two hours ago um

and while she's on the phone with the

police

like ida is kind of in denial a little

bit just being like oh no it's totally

normal

it's nothing to worry about and then she

collapses and

ends up hospitalized but um

but her husband is missing and also the

cat is missing

so maybe when he opened the door the cat

got out and he's been chasing the cat

all afternoon right

but yeah so we don't know what happened

here but everybody's missing all of a

sudden

um then all the police are swarming the

building because they do find the

the husband's body in a refrigerator

like in the basement or parking below

the building

in a refrigerator it was it was a

refrigerator in the basement yeah

kids were not paying attention to that

psa and playing inside the refrigerator

that punky brewster episode had not come

out yet

you're fine remember you were playing

hide and seek and you got locked in the

refrigerator

there was a gi joe episode also that had

also not aired

you you're the ringleader

but yeah so they had a bunch of like

there's a there was more than one

refrigerator in this parking garage

um but if he was in the one covered in

blood yeah

so they checked there first and then he

says you need to check

all of the refrigerators on the whole

building and he's like why you're

expecting more bodies and he's like

no a cat and then he leaves um

did he really say that he did yeah i

totally missed that line

because and again like pat says like

this apparently there's a lot of

refrigerators in this basement

well that i feel like that line would

have ruined it for me because

i was not expecting what happens then

what happens next

um for some reason the psychiatrist that

she's been seeing is visiting andrea at

her very fancy apartment

and she pulls out a very cool looking

knife yeah

um that you said was over sharpened oh

well

it yeah it looks like a knife that had

used to be much bigger and got sharpened

down

to a very cool shape yeah and

uh and she kills him and leaves

a perfect bloody handprint impression on

the glass right

at this point it seems like she's at the

the final stage of like a serial

killer's

momentum where you just lose it and you

stop caring about the evidence that

you're leaving behind literally trying

to

get her to go to an institution that

night like that's why he was there he

was there to pick her up so that they

could

go and he was like oh i'm so glad you've

just you've made this decision to go get

help

i'm glad you're gonna go willingly yeah

but but at this point

the the time between when she kills dr

marin

and and the climax of this movie which

is coming up fast

uh someone in that building what had to

have noticed

the big bloody handprint right in the

front door

and then started looking making

inquiries through the building

found the doctor's body in andrea's

apartment

right at this point it's irrelevant or a

person of interest

andrea must be a person of interest at

this point right but this is like the

last scene in american psycho where he's

just killing people all over the place

it's like it doesn't matter this is the

like

this is the end game of my serial killer

but but

there's 24 hours elapsed and there's no

but she she goes to an apartment that no

one knows

yeah she got a different apartment but

no one's even considering her as a

suspect for anything

that's true the cops don't figure

anything out until the next day

because even that he's like he's trying

to figure out who who this person could

be or who

she could be with and that's like look

at that scooby-doo style the only other

person that we've seen in the whole

movie

um but yeah so uh

she she kills her psychiatrist and we

cut back to emily in her apartment

getting ready to cook something

yeah and she goes to open the freezer

and we see what i'm pretty sure is a 100

percent authentic dead cat

yeah that that was a pretty authentic

looking

if it's not a real cat it's the most

convincing prop i've ever seen

but but i love the sound it makes when

it hits the ground yeah

because yeah it's it's covered in fur

the fur wouldn't freeze like

solid so it would have a muffled sound

it sounds literally like a dinner plate

hitting the floor yeah

it sounds like you dropped a jade cat on

the floor yeah

i was half expecting it to make that let

that sound like

that'll be so great but so she's so

traumatized by this that she

she call does she call andre or does it

drink she does she calls

well she tries to call the cop and then

the the dispatch tells her

he's not here yeah but then she says

have him call me and then she hangs up

it's like

oh yeah who is this

it's like obviously if he said oh a

distressed woman called here and said to

call her back

he's gonna know who it is but for that

guy he would have just been like

i don't understand someone called for

you so

then andrea calls her because she's no

she calls andrea she called andrea yeah

and says i think she calls in no andrea

calls her because she's watching through

because she's watching through the

telescope and she knows what just

happened and

um and that because she's not at her

house she's at this other apartment that

she got that

that overlooks emily's new apartment

right um

and she says hey oh i'm can you come

here and help me and she says oh

i'm i'm not at home i'm i'm uptown right

i got this new apartment i'm

i'm not dressed you should come over

here it'll be faster

and then what really bothers me is she

just picks up it goes

i'm like you just left that cat

defrosting on your floor put it back in

the freezer lady yeah

it's going to be totally worthless

tomorrow and and i love you gotta cook

the cat right away

or otherwise it's so good you can't

re-freeze the cat after you've thought

it yeah

hopefully that was just one of its lives

uh she writes down

the new address but apparently can't

remember it

because then she just rips the whole

page out of her

little rolodex yeah it's a rolodex you

wouldn't rip a page out of a rolodex

well

yeah she would and you can't remember a

street name

and a number because that's really all

you would need uh

and it's not like this is los angeles

where all the streets like intersect

each other at 12 degree angles

like this is new york it's just a big

piece of graph paper yeah

um i thought this was going to be a

really great

big lebowski kind of reveal moment when

he figures out

the the pages mission but we'll get to

that in a second because there's a lot

that happens in between

yeah i know what you mean by big

levesque moment i just figured that out

uh cause because he comes back to the

apartment finds the cat and just starts

making like inquiries find out all the

cabs who made pickups

i want a list of everyone who's bought a

telescope it's like

it's the middle of the night how is

somebody gonna find a list of

it's 1980. how do you find the list of

everyone that's bought a giant telescope

yeah though

usually they didn't publish the weekly

telescope purchases until

6am i'm just saying i must have got an

advanced copy

i don't know who keeps track of that

stuff first of all because

you know it's good it's 1980 people are

buying things in cash

like not there's no records of these

transactions

even if you were to get a hold of a

store owner like who the hell has that

yeah it's like describe everyone who's

bought a telescope yeah or it's like

you go to buy a telescope and say oh i'm

sorry this is a controlled substance

you're gonna have to give me your name

your driver's license no it's a

telescope

you walk in you pay 900.

or at the last second you change your

mind and spend all that money getting

patrick dempsey to date you for a week

or

whatever what's that movie can't buy me

love

or patrick dempsey buys a girlfriend

does that have to do with a telescope he

was going to get a telescope i was

saving up for a telescope and then he

spent all the money paying a girl to

pretend to be his girlfriend

oh okay it made sense guys i just

screwed up that was either a really

expensive telescope or a really cheap

girlfriend

i think it was like christy swanson or

something so must have been a really

expensive telescope because you know i

have a really decent telescope but it's

only like

250 dollars well you could pay someone

to be your girlfriend for a week for 250

dollars

where were we uh well he's making

inquiries

and we're playing the waiting game as

far as the police action is concerned

but emily's story is unfurling yeah a

mile a minute

she gets to the apartment the new

apartment which looks like a weird like

if it was an apartment from one angle

but then when she walks in it's all like

wood panels like a spa

it looks like a log place yeah log cabin

there's a lot of exposed brick

millennials will be crazy about this

right yeah i i liked it

i'm a millennial it feels like a very

warehouse

loft kind of apartment yeah um and so

emily walks in and there's basically

a door open to a bathroom and the

implication is that she's

literally mid-shower when emily walks in

there's just steam pouring out of an

open bathroom door while she takes a

shower

and uh emily walks over to the telescope

in the corner of the room which

when she looks through it sees that it's

pointed directly at her apartment window

but um i can see my house from here it's

like oh my gosh andrea

um but uh but at the last second oh

switcheroo

she's not in the shower she just turned

it on to for no reason to trick you

for no tactical issues she's not wet at

all

yeah she's just standing in the bathroom

not visible

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oh my god the shower's not even on in

there

but when she looks through the telescope

she sees that the cop is in her

apartment

trying to like look around and she sees

them slip on the cat

no that doesn't happen that'll be good

though

um but yeah so uh andrea's basically

the jig is up um she's

just full-on crazy mode explaining all

of her feelings and

um does she even admit to having paid

the guy

um to attack her and everything she i

don't know if she admits

i don't think she admits it but she says

all the same things yes she does

right yeah she repeats all the lines

that he does which i think it's enough

to confess

that she really distinctly told him

exactly what yeah she gave him a script

for sure

yeah but it i oh my gosh though that

moment when she's like

saying those lies that shot went on

forever

there's like a two-minute shot of her

just screaming

for her to do what she's saying and she

basically gets to a point where she says

like

oh so you paid that guy to attack me and

she's like he didn't attack you i told

him not to hurt you

he couldn't hurt you i could never hurt

you and then like it basically

comes out that she couldn't ever hurt

her yeah

and so she's just like oh so you're

threatening me for no reason because you

could never hurt me

meanwhile this goes on the entire night

yes until the next morning and there's

there's no like cops busting in moment

no it it's

the police he still hasn't figured it

out the cops still haven't figured it

out right

because he wanted a list of people who

bought telescopes like that's not gonna

happen

yeah and and now talia shire is

awake in the morning they're they're

awake together and she says uh andreas

says

something along the lines of we just

spent the night together yeah i was like

wait you guys been standing there all

night but i i thought

the implication was that they did they

have sex no

no no i think she was just being coy

like with that

okay just being like i finally got you

to stay there yeah we finally spent the

night together but literally they

were in the same room all night just

shouting at each other yeah

and at this point this is where the

police officer starts to reveal

the rolodex right where you push the

letter and it pops open to the page

right you slide that you slide the

little pointer to the correct

letter of the alphabet and you hit a

button and it pops open

holding that page to that letter open

and when he tries to go to g it keeps

going past g to h because the g page

discovered but it was already on g

and he notices it so i only needed it in

one

instance that it's on h he closes it and

it's on g

i would immediately go that's strange g

is missing

i wouldn't put it to h open it close it

again then put it to g

open it and close it again i was like no

i already got it

you should already have it too oh this

is the 80s

you needed to spell it out for people

literally

um but she uh he doesn't do what

you were expecting and kind of what i

was saying what i was expecting too yeah

i was waiting for him to do a pencil

rubbing on the page to find the address

because he knows that she wrote

something on g and tore it out

so you would do a rubbing on the age

page and you would get a picture of just

a dude jacking off

but she could have written it down on

any letter like it just happened

it was literally just an address like it

didn't have to be on that

yeah it didn't have to be oh hold on i

have to make sure i put this under your

name for your put your new address under

your name even though i'm going to tear

this page out

anyway it made no sense for it to be on

g

right but even that information is

useless to them because

meanwhile you know across the alley like

they eventually figure out

oh it's g who who's a g who's a g oh

that andrea girl oh

where does she live oh she has an

apartment here here and there right

there outside the window

and he's like oh my gosh well the person

who called me that one time must have

been able to see so that's probably her

place let's go over there

but it was it's irrelevant when they

show up

because nothing was about to happen they

literally fade from

her the two girls facing off in the

apartment to

her just walking with the cop outside

the building right

but he so he actually gets the

the list of cab drop-offs though and

this is part that i'm like why do we

even

have this scene because he gets the

addresses of all

the pickups that happened at that time

and place

right in general time and place and all

the places they were dropped off

and one of them is andrea's address but

he's like

literally looking at a map comparing

these addresses like yeah none of these

would have a view of her apartment but

one of them clearly does and and then he

gets

then he figures out later that that is

the address he's like oh wait that one

sounds familiar

oh yeah that was one of the cab

drop-offs

yeah but and that's basically the end of

the film is

them walking away from the building like

well i'm glad we got that settled and

then they walk across the bridge

yeah the the brooklyn bridge is just

everywhere in this movie

that's the real villain now this one is

looming over

um should have been called bridges

really

i agree because it's that that bridge is

the

the distance the span that they had the

windows are what separate us the bridges

bring us together that's right

this is one of those times where a movie

that where they completely roll the

credits

over action of just something happening

yeah

which to me is this like an incredible

waste of film

you always hope that it's the last shot

like the martini shot of the whole movie

so at least the actors can be walking

like okay as soon as we're done getting

the shot like

we can all go back to our lives like

this this is the last

thing of the movie i would save that for

the end of the shoot if i was the

production manager how long are the

credits going to be we don't know just

keep walking

you never know when more people are

going to show up and work on set i want

i want them i want somebody to do that

now

like bring that style back like i want

uh

you know christopher nolan movie to end

with somebody walking away

for 15 minutes as all the credits to his

movie

no his movies end with ambiguous hard

cuts that's the rule for him

i can't remember how long michael

clayton's goes on for michael clayton

goes on for a while

yeah we're just on george clooney's face

the whole time while the credits are

rolling

yeah great film michael clayton if you

haven't seen it

i don't think i have actually um he

directed that right

uh i don't we're cool actually

no tony gilroy oh okay i think he

directed that one

with it's it's like a monuments man no

it's the one it's his face on the time

magazine like

with sides of march ides of march i

think clooney directed that one i don't

think he did

no okay we're just going to keep listing

movies we directed leatherheads i think

uh he did direct i win

fine we're cutting that part

um i could never

win um like we said before uh the

director of this film

gordon willis uh didn't direct anything

else what did you talk about willis

yeah yeah and you know i was gonna work

funny because the director

i i don't know if you heard the

director's name was willis too

i was just gonna say it you were just

gonna say it

um just say it yeah but so he he

obviously we said before he was a

cinematographer on a bunch of woody

allen movies actually

um but he worked on interiors which was

originally called windows

and now this movie is he also worked on

manhattan um

and the money pit the money pit did he

do the money oh really he also did the

whole godfather trilogy and

all the president's men so he a lot of

credits but i feel like after this movie

he immediately was like oh oh not a

director not a director i'm going to go

back to being

acclaimed um

the writer barry siegel also no other

writing credits

talia shire as emily hollander obviously

lots of stuff

she was the the daughter of the

godfather getting married at the

beginning of the first film

um she is francis ford coppola's sister

she was adrian on the rocky films and

she is the

mother of jason schwartzman in real life

and in the movie i heard huckabee

oh really she's so great that's amazing

she i think she's adorable in this movie

she is

she's very um uh what's her name from

the shining e

scat mancroft that's her name

i always forget her name scat man

crothers

joe cortese as bob lefrono

he was rasmussen in american history x

and he plays a character a recurring

character named sal on always sunny

but other than that not a lot of huge

roles

elizabeth ashley was andrea glassen who

um she was on a lot of soap operas but

most recently the thing that i really

liked her in

was ruth on russian doll

ruth on a russian doll that's the friend

of the family

psychiatrist woman who she's always

checking in with that's her she was

great that's dude oh yeah i didn't

recognize her

and seeing her young makes her a perfect

choice for like

she could very easily have been natasha

leon's mother on that show but she's not

the mother but they they look very

similar right she's supposed to be her

aunt

yeah well the wikipedia page says

close friend of the family oh so i

thought she i thought she refers to her

as her aunt or she might have been like

like how richard is uncle uncle richard

but uh okay so k medford the neighbor

was ida marx this was her last film um

she was nominated for a supporting

actress oscar for her role in this film

no i'm just kidding

as rose rice and funny girl she was also

happy in butterfield eight and she plays

rhodes's first wife in face in the crowd

that's that movie that

i just watched pretty recently with like

andy griffith going crazy

oh yeah um

uh michael goran plays sam marks the

husband who went missing

um he will have two more movies in his

career

hero at large which we will cover later

this year and stardust memories

which is also this year so his last two

movies his last three movies were all

from 1980.

um russell horton played the uh

the ex-husband or soon-to-be ex-husband

steve hollander

he's in annie hall he's the guy in line

who doesn't know anything about marshall

mcluhan

oh yeah who gets in an argument with uh

uh woody allen

he also played mr milk toast in cat's

eye

i don't know what character that is

because i'm not familiar with that movie

i am hyper familiar but i don't remember

a character named mr milton yeah i don't

remember that character either

um and rick petrocelli who plays obechny

the

the attacker um he doesn't have a lot of

credits but weirdly also

in that line in the movie scene in annie

hall

okay just like i looked at a picture of

it and he's just standing like four

people in front of woody allen

in the movie like funny so gordon willis

knew this guy somehow yeah like probably

obviously the laughs yeah he did a bunch

of times you like to play a rapist

it might have just been like hey uh

woody needs extra people for the line

and he just called those like three best

friends in town and was like

come on down here you can be a woody

allen movie um and then he used them for

his own movie because

that's what a friend would do right um

but yeah

i think that's everything i have for

this one jess

yeah up or down um

like do i recommend watching it yeah uh

i don't think you need to

uh yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna give it a

pass skipperino

that's that's three knows um letterbox

is this better or worse than just tell

me what you want

well for me uh it's better because

i just really don't like just tell me

what you want all right

yeah i agree better than just tell me

what you want for sure

um please don't tell me you're thinking

about it

i'm gonna consider this

where did i put it

yeah this is above just tell me

i think that's everything for this one

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to all a good night the first of the

killer santa movies

there's more than one is this really the

first

i think it's at least very early in the

genre it's pre-silent night deadly night

oh man but uh yeah so stay tuned for

that

and thank you so much for listening it

was the start of christmas vacation

a few were staying and they planned to

have one hell of a good

time i would sincerely like to wish all

those students leaving for christmas

vacation

a pleasant journey and the happiest of

holidays

tj is coming up with a few of his

friends tonight

the dean of the school was away so the

girls decided to invite their boyfriends

it was against school regulations but

they were always

very good at breaking the rules this

time

they'll wish they hadn't you must pray

pray so the devil won't claim you for

one of his own

santa came to kill the hell are you

doing up here in that dumb outfit

even the police didn't suspect santa

claus

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oh tom take that bloody mask off

take me to bed

no one suspected santa claus

he was hunting for blood he was

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everywhere

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what kind of a crazed mind was killing

and mutilating his victims

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there was no one to help no one at

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all

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they ran they cried they died

merry christmas to all

a good night