we're on a mission from god wendy so i got that going darling looks like i picked the wrong way to quit sniffing blue light of my life we enjoy your films [Music] welcome to vintage video where we'll be reviewing every major film release of the 1980s in real time and again by real time i mean we'll be watching movies on the 40th anniversary of their official release in the united states i'm patrick o'reilly i'm jesse bayless and i'm richard wells and today marks the 40th anniversary of the release of to all a good night on january 30th 1980 it was written by alex rebar directed by david hess and was released by irc the most boring name for a film release company irc stands for intercontinental releasing corporation not not a front right i looked it up this is at least according to most websites the first killer santa movie the first one where the killer wears a santa costume at some point does this renowned uh film company make anything else irc i don't know i have a feeling they made a lot of these probably over the four months that they existed as a company you said it was intercontinental that's what it was called so i feel like they were like designed for international release maybe just got dubbed but i guess international was already taken as an irc maybe that explains why we can only find the spanish version of the trailer um there's really not much in the way of production info online about this movie either probably because it cost almost nothing to make they shot it in 10 days at some house up in santa barbara the entire cast stayed in the house that they shot it in for the entire production makes sense it gets a brief mention and only the most thorough slasher review sites because it did technically predate a slew of higher profile slasher films in the early 80s but it doesn't really stand up to many of them i would say it also borrows from its predecessors heavily which in this case i would say is bob clark's um black christmas and uh i thought this was after a house on sorority row but apparently this is before that because that was like 84. and the guy who wrote that says he wrote it this year so i feel like he might have just watched this movie and been like i'm going to write a better version of this movie um but yeah so that happened but black christmas it's also like a sorority being attacked right someone on christmas if you take out all the christmas stuff but it's basically the same plot as house on sorority row it's just not not a christmassy movie well yeah this movie had very little to do with christmas i mean other than the the santa costume and it's technically on christmas vacation right for the school but other than that there's not there's not a lot to it right well i don't i don't think they're ever really clear about like the loca do they say the location that this happens they don't like state wise you mean well yeah like like i don't recall at the beginning of the movie they're not just like hey we're in florida you know they don't actually say where they are but it's clearly somewhere that doesn't look very christmassy and wintery like this this is clearly like somewhere tropical somewhere i assumed it was coastal uh coastal state some either either northeast or california yeah but they never say explicitly they uh but if you're gonna make a killer santa movie that's supposed to happen on christmas wouldn't you pick a snowy place and not some somewhere like california or florida or wherever the hell this takes place because blood on the snow looks great that's such a great image but um it's obviously much cheaper to just shoot it at a house down the street from your house in santa barbara [Laughter] we opened at the calvin finishing school for girls christmas vacation two years ago which the reasoning for two years ago is will come into play later i think um we start with the very waxy flashback you know that yeah that terrible look that they used to do for flashbacks it has like it it's almost like an irish shot but instead of just an iris it's uh they just swirl like petroleum jelly on a piece of glass to make it look foggy um and it's just a bunch of girls chasing one of their sorority sisters to the top of a building and then off of a balcony luckily just before she falls off the balcony she throws a fake version of herself off instead yeah a very very bad dummy hits the ground um and we start this two note horror score that actually follows through the whole rest of the movie is just and the amazing establishing shot of these dormitories establishing shots yeah which is also the poster and cover box for the movie but of course it appears in the movie like 90 times over the course yeah i think we need to go back and like you know keep keep a running tally of how many times the shot i've thought about it and then i realized that it's a lot of work there was a there was a there was a fair attention to detail where they changed the color timing slightly on a couple of the establishing shots yeah they did try to make it look like morning or like evening but it's all clearly the same footage the same bird is dying halfway across the shot the the flashing lights like only it's weirdly only half of the the flashing lights over the door seem to flash right it's christmas it's christmas that's that's what you do that's why you put you put christmas lights up and only half of them work so after we see this girl die we get the words to all a good night show up which part of why i had such a hard time finding a copy of this for us to watch is because for some reason good night is all one word i feel like it should be two words but it's all one word and the o's are linked for some reason yeah i i was looking at that recently on the cover box i was like why are the o's hoop together i must i mean it was 1980 there was an olympics that year right someone was inspired i don't know but only representing two right and we're introduced to each of the girls very rapidly um but the only one that makes an impression is the girl who will go on to be the main character of this movie nancy played by jennifer runyon who i think is the famous person from this movie is she the main character i felt like she was i mean isn't in any of these like slasher movies like the virgin girl who everyone's making fun of is supposed to be like the the one you identify with yeah yeah so i would say she's the main character of this well but we don't introduce her for quite a long time well at the very beginning when everyone's leaving the school to get ready for christmas she's handing her cat to someone oh she's the one with the cat she's the one with the cat yeah um this is actually her first movie and i would say that most people know her from ghostbusters where she played jennifer who is able to guess what the what pete venkman's zener cards say on them she's the one who says is it a star it is a star very good that's great you can't see these can you you're not cheating me are you um after this movie she did a lot of tv stuff up until another movie in 1984 called up the creek where she played the love interest at tim matheson and it looks from the cover box to be like a college comedy based around rafting like competitive rafting or something like that we'll get there um and then after ghostbusters she was in uh john schlesinger's falcon in the snowman in 85. she was in 18 again with george burns in 88 wait i'm sorry take it back falcon and the snow i think they're spies or something like that okay so these are like code names yeah so this isn't an unofficial smoking in the band this is not an animated film snowman no um and then she had guest appearances on like all the major um series at the time charles in charge who's the boss magnum quantum murder she wrote um and apparently she came back in 93 to appear in carnosaur with diane ladd do you remember carnosaur you know it sounds familiar i bet i would recognize it if i saw the art i remember it because um my dad took us up to our grandpa's cabin and he had it on vhs and that was like all we wanted to do was watch this carnosaur movie because at the time i was obsessed with jurassic park it was the same year as jurassic park and this was just like you know the transmorphers version of jurassic park yeah i uh i do not recognize it based on the art no but it's got diane ladd and it's got uh jennifer runyon actually returned to her killer santa film roots uh recently in 2015 she was in silent night bloody night 2. oh so she's another christmas or her imdb pages bookended with killer santas the director for this should be noted this is one of two directing credits the other is a short form documentary about steel drums so this is his only like narrative film that he made um which was first uh i don't know actually i think that was after i think this was first this was on the heels of his appearance in um as the villain of last house on the left okay um and uh that was just before this and then he did this probably from the star power of that um he also appeared in swamp thing in 82 and armed and dangerous that john candy movie um but most of his credits are acting after that although he does have sound credits yeah he was a composer yeah um most of it is because he wrote the music for uh last last house on the left i almost called it last podcast on the left because that's a great podcast you should all check out but don't skip this one or anything um but last house on the left he did all the music for that and the music from that movie like i think eli roth used like three songs from it in cabin fever and then tarantino used one in hateful eight well and he just uh so in addition to composing those songs like he was like like a songwriter for like music like radio music yeah so but me and him are both credited and hateful eight but his name's spelled right though [Music] and the writer here alex rebar he doesn't really have a lot outside of this film it's mostly acting again um he did write a tv movie sequel to the amityville horror which is the fourth installment i forget what it was called he's an important component in building a wall out of concrete yes you can't do it without rebar it's just a mistake you can cut that joke out no that's getting repeated um so all the girls that aren't they don't have anywhere to stay for christmas go back into the school and just stay there for christmas is it is it that they don't have anywhere to stay or is the plan all along to get their boyfriends to come up and and have a wild i think that's the plan some of them planned that but i don't think that was always the plan and i definitely don't think that nancy was a part of that plan because she seems surprised by the news that someone's going to visit not only are they she was surprised by it but they didn't they didn't bring a guy for her right yes and there was a guy and they were like no you stay here with the plane right there was [Music] yeah so they yeah exactly because they're a bunch of like kennedy kids well yeah they have a private plane yeah um which did not run well for the kennedy kids it turns out the private planes um mrs jensen is the name of the woman who is like left in charge of the girls and she's made them a stew and some cherry pie we get a quick shot of a note on a desk that says the following girls are staying for vacation and it has six girls names on it um who are the six girls that are like the main characters of this story and then rather than crossing them off one at a time as they get killed we just see like a figure scribble the whole list out in like a big red pen i was like oh i thought we were gonna like kill bill this but we're just yeah they all should die oh don't forget there's one other person who's staying at the house right the groundskeeper slash houseplant trimmer yeah he's uh he's a creepy guy i don't know i kind of like ralph well yeah i think he's supposed to be like adorable like mentally handicapped groundskeeper guy um he's waiting for the to see the rabbits or something right yeah yeah but after the names get crossed off on the list there's a picture of the girl who fell off the balcony and that's where we're flash cutting back and forth from the picture of the girl on the desk to the girl falling apart so we're getting that flash of the face that you were talking about um and so the indication is that whoever is here is in somehow like related to that girl that was thrown off the balcony right well that's a really it's just a really cheesy moment like in case you forgot the scene that happened like five minutes ago we're gonna flash this face over top of the girl falling well i know pictures also in the rest of the movie just sitting on the desk that it was well i i think the reason for that is because i would have had no idea because i did not get a good look at her face seconds before she fell off because i didn't expect i do get kind of a slow-mo close-up but once they flash to the present you're gonna be like okay which of these girls says that i have no idea they all look the same yeah yeah and it's only been two years i was like it's like are these the same girls even from the two years ago i don't know right and looking back now there were a couple that were in common but there are a couple that are missing as she's cooking everything she she comes into this dining room area and sets all the food down and tells the girls that mrs calvin who runs mrs calvin's school for girls or whatever this place is um will be back in a couple of days which they they mention that like three or four times over the course of the movie i kept waiting for that to pay off so hold on so she so she's like managing sh is she like you know like pitch hitting here she's not normally there is she i think she's a school administrator okay because i got the sense that she's normally there yeah like this isn't like she's a she's new to this house or anything no mrs jensen's there full-time i think i don't think this house is the school i think that this house is the dormitory because at the beginning when everyone's leaving they keep talking about um uh breakfast will be served in lunchroom b instead of lunchroom c stuff like that i was like wait are there multiple places to eat yeah that was weird that there was a big pa system on the house anyway i was just getting like airplane flashbacks yeah so uh so i think that this is just the dorm of this school maybe it is and she's just the house mother of of the dorm and she's been left in charge of all the stragglers that didn't find somewhere to be because she doesn't have any family and isn't important um but yeah so uh cynthia the sixth of the girls is the only one that's not sitting around the table they're like oh she went to her room because she was tired and then we see cynthia like dressed in a nightie looking out the window trying to get her boyfriend's attention um or no he's trying to get her attention he's like shouting to her from outside and she just immediately takes off all of her clothes to change into different clothes so that she can meet her boyfriend why did you put the nightie on in the first place if that wasn't for him was that just was that comfortable to sleep in but um before she can get outside he just gets stabbed to death by a figure that we don't see much of um and then she immediately runs out the front door to try and find him and get stabbed herself in the parking lot and it's one of those shots where she's running directly towards camera going oh where are you peter where and then suddenly she's getting stabbed by someone who she should have seen from 20 feet away but it's pretty impressive that we're only like maybe seven or eight minutes into the movie and already two people are dead yeah especially since there's really only six girls so we already took care of one of them and her boyfriend so we're down to five the girls that are left are nancy i said before was uh jennifer runyon um who's like the virgin character that uh after this happens she even though she's sitting the furthest from the windows she's like in the middle of two people sitting at the table she just goes what was that i think i saw something happen outside and they're all you're crazy i know i saw it i think but it's like you're sitting at the middle of the table and the windows are all covered in curtains like there's no way you saw anything happen outside but it's the beginning of everyone chastising her for being silly and paranoid um there's the free-spirited character named leia and she seems like she's based on like an annie hall type character or maybe a combination of two characters from 77 because she's like annie hall and princess leia this is the one with the weird like jungle-esque room like this whole house is littered with plants like ivy that grows especially fast well this is why ralph just gets to wander around with like a giant cheers everywhere he goes so she goes back up to her room to get she says she's going to get drugs because her plan is to literally drug mrs jensen so they can go meet their boyfriends and then she's going to get chanel because one of the other girls was like oh can you get my perfume or whatever right um so she goes up to her room and as she's leaving this giant you know lenny from mice and men comes barging in with a big pair of shears right and he's wearing like a like a like a red thermal shirt just to make him a little bit more sandy and uh and he just tells her he's there to like trim the plants basically he doesn't knock either he just yes he enters this is this is a dorm for girls so you think at least you would knock um and the girls all laugh at ralph before he even leaves the room like he follows her down to the dinner table and they're all just like oh what a silly weird guy like just laughing at him while he's still in the room i think he used to be a gargoyle on the south side of notre dame which it's like it's not the only time that it happens it becomes a recurring thing they're insulting people who are literally still standing yeah so ralph goes into the kitchen with uh mrs jensen and there's also this other woman there who her name is tina ranzoni and she shows up to the kitchen with mrs jensen and ralph and she complains about a heart condition that she has like oh my heart's messed up and i need a better heart um and here's some cannoli put this in the refrigerator to ralph and he puts it in the refrigerator but i have no idea what the point of this character is there is none there's there's literally no but she's not even a red herring because like her story doesn't make any sense but she says i'm gonna die we all gotta die i know i'm gonna die death is no stranger to me i buried three husbands so you think that's so bad after the third one it's just a piece of cake this woman looks like she's like 35 maybe i don't know why she would have three dead husbands already i mean was just saying that you've you've have three dead husbands is that supposed to be the the red herring because she literally never comes back for the entire movie i don't know what the connection would be between her having dead husbands and a weak heart unless she's like killing people and cutting their hearts out and doing a surgery on her own like i don't understand the point of it but but we knew we do know why she was in the movie yes we do know why she was there which is that she's married to david has the director of the film but i don't understand the point of this character if you were gonna have her be in the movie just have her be someone that served a purpose to the story because she just hands off the cannoli and uh on her way out of the building while ralph is still in the room she says i don't know how you stand that big gazak around here he gives me the creeps while he's still standing there and then uh uh leia walks in to get something out of the refrigerator and so while one of the girls from the school is still there she says you shouldn't be working here ruth with all those rich little pompous living out here in the middle of nowhere the ladies like ripping on this girl that's standing right there next to the refrigerator so they they drug mrs jensen and mrs ranzoni just leaves and they what they try to like make it off like they're being like really nice they're like oh we're gonna do the dishes and we're gonna take care of you and let me get you a nice warm glass of milk and they're like being so sweet just to drug her i mean this seems like really really awful yeah and then the first thing that she does when she's been quote unquote drugged i'm gonna go do some sewing on my sewing machine yeah or can you go to sleep now so we can go find a you know plane full of horny santas yeah and then uh so he she says oh miss jensen's asleep she's going to be asleep for 12 hours that'll be plenty of time for us it's like these aren't like trained anesthesiologists they could have killed this one and they have no idea but um one of them weirdly says i wonder what she dreams of just like i don't know what you're talking about do we want to talk about her fantasies all of a sudden um oh i realized at this point that uh jennifer runyon's character nancy reminds me a lot of woody's girlfriend on cheers cause she's like also like pure as the driven snow type character i was like maybe that was jennifer runyan on that show but they and they do look alike but it's not it's not the same girl from cheers um so nancy is elected to give mrs jensen the drugged milk which she willingly goes along with the plan um and there's a picture of the dead girl from the intro to the movie just hanging on the wall above the sewing machine while she's sitting there to sew with her drugged milk then we get a lot of really inexcusably bad day for night as the girls are approaching the plane that their boyfriends flew in that was rough it was that's pretty rough they all have flashlights i think only half of them are turned on and it's just blatantly different hard everywhere but then ralph shows up yeah nancy runs into ralph and tells her for the first of like several times to just be safe and gives her a flashlight because she didn't have one for some reason the moon's so bright you need something to block the sun here take this um so yeah the the plane lands and it has a boy for every girl except for nancy um and the pilot says oh i'll come in and tj says no you stay with the plane even though he's seems like he's close enough to their ages uh jennifer runyon didn't know this when they were shooting she found out after the film but the actor playing the pilot here who is credited as dan striker in the film is actually actor harry reames does that ring a bell i got nothing no nothing um he was an uncredited discotheque patron in klute i do know clute but i don't recall the uncredited disco page okay we're gonna have to rewatch it then it's a very huge part no um he is as the name harry reims might suggest he's a prolific porn actor who has made appearances in as dr young in deep throat and dr jason in deep throat 2. he was also mark in a movie called sometimes sweet susan oh mark do you remember sometimes do you remember sometimes sometimes sweet susan is the movie that travis bickle takes civil shepherd to on their date in taxi driver because he doesn't know that that's weird i don't like these movies well i mean i you know i didn't know that you you'd feel that way about this movie i don't know much about movies but if i understand what we should go to well yeah i mean i come and they this is not so bad but i and i just had to include this here um his the highest the most recent project that he did is called asses to asses and lust to lust [Laughter] so so why is it that jennifer runyon didn't know this because everyone was using different names at the time he was he was using the name dan striker there's a lot of people um bill martin is for some reason credited as bill martin's i don't know if that was just a screw-up or if he was like you know what'll throw him off put an s on there pluralize myself uh there's a there's an actor whose imdb page says he's west buchanan but he was credited as buck west and kieva lawrence who plays miss jensen is credited as katherine harrington so it seems like nobody wanted to use their real names on this movie more like red harrington red harrington that should have been that doesn't matter that's a guy's name really unless you're red-haired then it's a nickname not really a name well i'm uh i have to admit that i'm looking at the wikipedia page and trying to follow along with your story points in the broad strokes that wikipedia paints are like sam and blake have sex on the parlor and then uh but it ends like this whole paragraph ends on alex in her bedroom gives him a hand job but hand job is uh a hyperlinked text oh wikipedia in case you're curious what that means this is like okay thank you wikipedia well it's just like why choose that to hyperlink like groundskeeper isn't hyperlinked uh i think we know why the same reason that that person bothered to fill out a wikipedia page for this movie but yeah so tj tells the pilot you stay here and the pilot just sleeps on the ground next to the plane for like three days you sleep in the plane at least he doesn't even let him come into the house he's like not only can you not hang out with us you're gonna sleep on the ground out here this is that's what my dad pays you for i bet at least one of them threw up on the plane and it stinks terribly yeah maybe well it's also just a really tiny private plane there might not be enough floor space to lay down um we go back into the house and there's a guy playing the worst song i've ever heard running only makes you see running only makes you see your answer well one of them pretends to really like it though yeah there's one girl that's completely infatuated with it someone wearing a santa suit takes shears out of a garden shed and we realize things are going to happen already trisha goes to the kitchen to get something and sees someone wearing a santa costume and thinks it's her boyfriend until santa slits her throat well yeah because all of the guys showed up in santa suits right and then ralph surprises nancy again and warns her of evil again like you do you know be safe and then finally trisha's boyfriend eventually realizes that she has left the room and shuffled off this mortal coil and he says where's trisha and then someone says maybe she left you and then he has this really weird line delivery and he goes with my charm new chill and everyone cracks up like it's the funniest thing they've ever heard but he seems like he's doing like a butler accident for some reason um so he goes to look for her um meanwhile tj surprises leia in her room the one that's overflowing with plants the room not leia right yeah they're both overflowing with plants um and then tom finds i couldn't tell if it was actually tricia or not he finds a body in the incinerator out on the porch i think it was i think okay i'm pretty sure it would it would make sense just logically that he would find his own girlfriend but it could have been the girl from earlier i didn't get a good look at the face and then he gets attacked he's immediately attacked by santa with a rock yeah yeah but then out of nowhere he had a bat like he wasn't armed when he went out there but suddenly he had a bat and hit santa a couple times real good you're outside at a girl's school you're bound to find a bat laying around sure why not um but yeah so santa kind of disables him with a rock to the head and then picks up a bigger rock and literally just crushes his skull to the point that the rock breaks in half yeah the rock snaps in half you hit him so hard in the skull well they say we are occasionally intercut with burial scenes yeah right here we get a shot of santa like neatly tucking the dirt over four graves in the in the day for night field and uh i don't know why he he or she would waste this time yeah why are we taking time i mean digging have you ever dug a hole for a body oh yeah it takes a really long time especially out in the wilderness where there's just layers of layers of tree roots and things to get through first yeah and large rocks apparently melody uh who i think is the one that's talking with a british accent drags the nerdy guy uh upstairs for a an advanced course in relativity she says because she's just they're just trying to playing up that he's the nerdlinger well he's really hesitant like this is a this is like feels like a like a really rapey moment honestly like she is really attacking him yeah but so now the only two people that are left are the guitarist and the girl that was interested in the guitarist so they just start making out on the floor in the common room which is making her uncomfortable making me uncomfortable but everybody else is already paired off they were laying on a bear they were there's like a giant bear head right in front of the camera so everyone's having sex except for nancy who's just wandering the grounds other than the dead people [Laughter] so there's now of the six girls two of them are dead two of the boyfriends are dead there's four girls left three of them are having sex and nancy's just wandering around she's listening to leah have sex yeah she's listening to a few people yeah well she thought she heard screams but they were of course screams of ecstasy yes um we see we see leia dancing with a platter of food and singing until tj grabs her they're being very strange in her room uh oh yeah they're like like role-playing weirdness yeah she puts these the goggles on his head that i think he was wearing when he was flying the plane and uh then he goes he asks for her to get him a drink and he goes to like swing his glass to the nightstand and shatters it like you could see it breaking off camera and falling apart uh when does the the suit of armor come to life that's right right around here right in the room with the bear rug is conveniently a big suit of armor and and it's really crossbow right right well there's there's um yeah so she that that's the room where she hears the the voices from and uh so she's just sitting outside their room drinking milk and she can hear them having sex and uh right after she leaves the plate male armor comes to life and fires a crossbow through the guy's head i just want to know how long that person was in that suit of armor to hold still for a really long time in there because they were all like the room that they're in the common room that they were in was the room that all of the people were in until they started splitting off so like they've been in there for hours yeah um so yeah he he shoots the guy in the back of the head and the arrow comes out of his mouth and then the girl starts to run away and he chops her head off with the battle axe so jim the guitarist character who had the crossbow through his mouth was also a pa on this movie he was a stunt man assuming he just did all his own stunts and also he was a set constructor on top of playing a main character in the film so now uh what luck ralph bursts into nancy's room in the middle of the night it warns her about the evil again and demands that she pray you must pray pray so the devil won't claim you for one of his own out of all of them you're the only one and she considers this like a sweet gesture he cares about me like oh he's oh he's a man of the lord he's so nice to warn me about evil and break into my room at night and then santa buries more bodies under the moon um but for some reason keeps the head of that girl in a bucket instead of burying it with the rest of her um uh the british girl melody is still seducing the nerd upstairs like half the people are dead and we were only like 30 minutes into this movie and i i was like okay either this story's gonna wrap up by the morning because it doesn't make any sense for this to be like a two day movie but then suddenly it's just the next day and people are sitting around the table eating breakfast outside um everyone just assumes all the dead people went somewhere else they did just like oh they must have gone and not said anything to us it's like why would they do that we had everything planned here and the plane's still there and they had to make up some you know you know weird story for the house mother to be like oh their plane broke down so we have to keep these guys here yeah she's like but it's against the rules and you're like well all right we'll let them stay so now um the the the nerd alex and melody have have had sex he's less awkward around her i guess and starts chasing her around in the yard um and then suddenly just immediately turns and starts chasing nancy like yeah even though his girlfriend is still running away from him he turns around and starts like making these weird grunting noises to chase nancy i know they literally just trip over a dead body but it's great when she trips over him he like he steps up yeah like i'm not sure about the physics of how that's he springs forward like a motion activated halloween decoration but he's just like with a screaming face and blood dripping all over him and very clearly dead and then we cut immediately to the cops there i was like is this story like wrapping up i don't understand why it's broke up this way um we have like a colombo moment yeah yeah he is very colombo this cop that shows up but um he also he has this weird line he says thanks for your help but from the way kramer was found it's obvious what happened or he actually messes up the line he says it's obvious he what happened it's obvious he what happened what does that what does that mean from the way he was found it's obvious what happened yeah he was murdered like that's that's the that's the implication it's like it's obvious that he was murdered he didn't just die of a heart attack there um and while he's trying to like comfort nancy he like holds her face oh so creepy very long time it was so creepy um we should mention well while he's holding on to her face it's revealed that his name is detective polanski right or chief polanski chief polanski i was like mr polanski can you stop holding that girl's face please that's right he says he's been a cop all his life that he's the chief of police here for almost a year and he's never had a case he couldn't figure out a whole year you're like 10 months in and you haven't you haven't not solved any cases in this tiny town with no murders that's that's impressive and then he's like he's said like specifically we've gone over this house with a fine-tooth coat yeah they haven't found anything you haven't found anything you went over every little freshly dug graves or like buckets of heads or no girls and incinerators like just nothing yeah and while he's caressing nancy's face sitting at the chair he says about ralph he tells her well you know he spent time in a mental hospital two accounts of armed robbery which i think he meant two counts of armed robbery but he said that's two accounts of armed robbery he spent time in a mental hospital two accounts of armed robbery assault with a deadly weapon and mrs jensen just nods through all of this like she isn't surprised and he's just wandering into their rooms constantly sometimes while they're asleep well you know that three strikes law he wouldn't do it a third time it's really weird he let's go over face and the cop looks directly at the floor and says if anything comes up or you find anything important give me a call like very monotone and not to anyone in the room just at the ground and then he says bye ruth without looking at her and walks out like he clearly has some kind of a relationship with the woman who's like mrs jensen is ruth yeah um and it's just very strange for that all of a sudden um he tells them to be very careful and to lock up all the doors at night because they're still a murderer he wanted his two goons like his two police goon guys to like stand guard that night at the house and absolutely not have sex with the teenage girls right it's also just really weird like i don't think a chief of police would say you know what a whole bunch of people were murdered here i think what's best is for all of you to stay in this why don't i go i'll leave i'll leave two guys outside the door and you'll be fine yeah and there's some weird implications by this whole point too but um alex says that he thinks that everyone that's missing was killed and then one of the other kids says well who are you sherlock holmes and he has this really weird line he says i wish i was then i wouldn't be so preoccupied for my life what i don't remember that line i feel like someone just had i wouldn't be so worried for my life and they were like what's another word for worry that doesn't really fit this sentence but yeah so the chief leaves two of these cops there and reminds them not to have sex with any children which is rich coming from officer polanski um nancy and alex tell mrs jensen that they think they're in danger danger and then uh and and they literally have to explain to her even after the cops said all this in the room ralph was murdered the man who murdered him could still be around oh dear that must be why the chief left the policeman here what was the last scene for if it wasn't to give you all that information um then everyone sits down for dinner including one of the two cops that's supposed to be on patrol um and the other one says he's gonna go to sleep [Laughter] so these are the people that are hired to protect them one of them is going to sit down and eat um and then leia or leah i don't know how to pronounce it um she decides she's going to lead the cop that wants to go to sleep to his room and just takes him up to her room even though like two scenes ago she was literally saying i think i'm gonna marry tj he's so great and now she's like well she meant he's so rich yeah but then she just wants to have sex with this 40 year old cop that's making like nothing to like guard a school yeah also really gross yeah they're both pretty gross guys and then but at this point melody is now latching on to tj since he's now over right because she can see that that he's feeling neglected leah goes to take a shower in the same room where she told the cop to sleep um and then tj gets suspicious so he follows her up to the room and catches her cheating with the cop but just doesn't care like he literally smiles when he's turning around he's just like perfect now i could go get with melody and we're totally good with this yeah so um alex and nancy are exploring the house to make sure everything's locked up and the comp that's still outside is immediately killed by santa so now we're down to the one cop that's in leah's room that's protecting them from anybody until the morning presumably when the when the chief of police will come back for whatever reason yeah they already went over the place they found nothing tj takes melody outside because he's like oh well they have cops so we're totally safe we can go wherever we want but he said to lock up but he was just kind of joking we could just do whatever we want she's hesitant but he says oh relax i have five years of karate i'm a black belt nobody gonna mess around with this boy [Laughter] and then there's another weird line here where's tj and melody oh knowing tj they're somewhere knowing physics they exist yeah i can't tell you how fast they're going but i can tell you exactly where they are but i don't see them so they both do and do not exist schrodinger's two-dimensional characters um so leah after she has now presumably had sex with the officer that was staying with them goes to take a post-coital shower and finds her friend sam's head that the knight chopped off impaled on the showerhead for some reason but what a missed opportunity for her to like turn the showerhead yeah turn the water on first like she's not looking and the water's just gushing out of the mouth i feel like that might have been in the script and they just couldn't like they didn't have the prosthetics weren't working budget to make that sort of that honestly that would have made this whole movie this would be a bigger cult cult piece if it had that scene um but she just starts screaming and the cop comes busting in but didn't clear any of the rooms on his way because he's immediately getting killed by another santa um but then yeah leah is then approached by the killer santa and she's scream she's naked and screaming and screaming and we kind of cut away so we just okay well we'll see her dead body somewhere else whoever this deranged santa is already crossed off a list of all these girls names and this one's like the most obnoxious of all the girls so if the person's just out to kill everyone who is obnoxious this girl is definitely gonna get killed so that happens that cop has a knife in his back he's dead on the bathroom floor um and then tj and melody are about to make out by a tree outside when suddenly he gets hung by like this thin metal wire yeah like piano wire yeah garat wire i guess yeah it's like basically and he gets pulled up into a tree and he's just choking and she's screaming and runs to the house because she can't get him down i have to say this was the only time that i that i responded to an attack it looks really brutal because this was like and i just got him i was like oh dang um like that's the kind of thing where you're like how long have you been in that tree well it's also another opportunity to christmas theme it you know do christmas lights or something don't just strangle them with a random wire you're just stabbing people and strangling people with murderers like an ornament in the tree yeah sure anything there's a lot of choices um so they uh melody runs back to the house screaming because tj just got killed so now we're basically down to melody the british girl um alex the nerd and nancy nancy and they run up to the bathroom upstairs and realize that flaya is also alive um that somehow her screaming prevented her from getting murdered on the floor of the shower like the santa just turned around and walked away she's like that character and the frightener so you can't every time you hear a woman screaming just goes oh oh oh god i'm sorry this just got really real oh i have a daughter i can't do this i had one um but uh presumably what happened is the the santa like stabbed her right on the brainstem because she's gotten completely bananas now she's just like spinning dancing covered in blood floating around being a weirdo i'm so crazy yeah she's clearly had a panic attack and it's just being nuts alex says you know what i'm gonna call the police good idea even though there should be a couple around here somewhere right but um so he goes to call the police and right as he telephones the police we see outside santa's glove grab the wire coming out of the building and cut it with a pair of shears so it's like oh there goes they can't call the police now i feel like we should have done that a little earlier saying yeah they should have been first on your on your naughty list um so yeah uh then while they're all standing in the living room next to the christmas tree just out of nowhere again santa comes to attack melody and melody just turns tail and runs past him out of the house into the yard um and then santa takes off the mask to reveal that it's mrs jensen what oh it's like a scooby-doo episode where there's one other person that we've seen that's still alive yeah and uh she's the mother of the woman or the the girl that was pushed off the balcony and the prank in the cold open um and she corners nancy and nancy the whole time is trying to explain to her that she wasn't even at the school two years ago so she shouldn't like not that it's okay to murder all of us but you know i wasn't even a part of that i didn't go here yet why wasn't the story about those girls yeah right why wasn't this a revenge story against them specifically yeah also why did you have to do it during the christmas break just kill them when you have your opportunities over the course of the semester yeah um but so uh while she's running away from mrs jensen uh nancy goes and hides under a bed meanwhile melody gets to the plane where the pilot has been sleeping for three days um and she says we to get out of here right now and he's like oh well then i'll fix the plane that it's been broken for this whole time was it actually broken that wasn't just a story to get the guys i think he literally was fixing it when he stood up he he leans into the engine in action otherwise they would have gone right previous that next morning yeah like you know before the house mom woke up but then as soon as he gets it fixed they realize that santa's already in the plane and he turns the ignition to start the plane and they're standing right next to the prop so um the pilot just gets chopped and his brains and blood turn all over the airplane uh uh just like there's no powering up of the propeller just immediately on full speed yeah well how else are you going to chop somebody's head up that's a that's that's what's so great about the scene in raiders lost art with the plane slowly rotating around it's just like he keeps trying to run away but the plane's slowly turning and you're always watching and you're just like oh god oh god it's gonna hit him but this one it's like you don't even see him before he's like oh he's up at the controls maybe i should take an inch step backwards it's almost as if the engine exploded yeah and just blew their guts forward yeah um so now back at the house santa is following nancy around the house but for some reason instead of just surprising her with a knife now she's whispering nancy i'm coming for you everywhere she goes so that nancy can very easily follow where she is she also outpaces and overpowers santa at every confrontation which is which is weird because like definitely we've had other struggles right throughout here where we're like where this this santa is more rock fight was comes to mind there but in in this case now that we've revealed that mrs jensen is santa like we can't have santa actually overpowering a teenage girl so just every time she gets on nancy nancy just throws her to the ground and runs away again so nancy runs to the balcony where the girl was killed by falling off of it and uh as jensen is charging her the flashback from the beginning of the film plays over again but it ends with jensen hitting the ground very super anticlimactically and where that fake body was hitting the ground i mean it's very like it's like a bugs bunny moment you know where you just like you know just step to the side and suddenly you know the person attacking you just look there you go just slide whistle um so yeah so she's dead or dying yeah dead or dying um and nancy goes down to where the christmas tree was and just sits and cries when a second santa walks in carrying mrs jensen's body it's the police chief her husband and father presumably of the child that was killed um and then he tries to kill her when alex reappears from his just mysterious absence for the last couple scenes with the crossbow from the plate male suit and fires it at uh at the chief of police killing him good thing there's no witnesses right to say whether or not who who to corroborate your story now it just looks like you killed all these people right so basically there are three survivors is melody killed by the propeller also yeah i i think okay so then the three survivors are alex the nerd um nancy nancy the virgin and leia the crazy girl and that's where it ends we end on her being loopy just dancing around and then we get like a freeze frame of her and her bloody dress upstairs just wandering around this house full of corpses i mean is that supposed to be like the moment that we're like prepping for the next movie like i think that's just how horror movies ended in the 70s and they weren't ready for the 80s yet so they were just still doing things the same way i mean is this the first so i know that we're jaded by the idea of having it be you know surprised it was a woman killer and likes you know i hadn't even thought of that as a possible part of the twist right but but like you know we have experienced movies like that but like at the time i can't think of any movies that i don't know friday the 13th is this year but it's later this year so right so i can't think of any movies before this that had that sort of ending yeah i don't i can't off the top of my head come up with one either well the thing is it wasn't always her right the implication of the story is that is the scream situation where every time the person is being overpowered by santa it's the chief of police right because women are incapable of doing things properly and so every time it's a woman she's just getting shoved to the floor or just like mindlessly wandering off of a cliff like a lemming but what i like to think of it now is that well one of them's inside stalking and killing the other ones digging graves and they trade off all right here's the body you go and dig the next grave i'm gonna go kill some more people yeah i also like the implication so before when i said that there's a reason that this is two summers later and not the next summer that's not the reason it's not in i know what you did last summer situation is because the guy needed enough time to believably get to the position of chief of police so that's literally the only reason why couldn't he have already been chief of police why couldn't there's no daughter of the chief of police just be the guy who would have been so much more impressed if he said i've been the chief of police around here for 18 years and now i've never let the case go unsolved but uh i also really like the implication that he's the chief of police who orchestrated the murder of two other police like did he pick the two guys that he hates the most for this job or the one that he knew like couldn't keep their hands off of children he's like herring here's how i'm gonna get rid of these two like pedophile officers i'm gonna invite them on this mission and then just murder them later two birds one large rock one large rock a couple of stabbies but yeah that's about it for the plot of this one um that's about it for everything on this one i mean yeah i don't really don't know what more we can say well what do you what do you uh do you recommend that people watch it i do not no what about you i don't i don't think you should bother all right i'm gonna be the sole thumbs up on this for the only reason that it is technically the first killer santa movie and that it deserves credit for at least that but um i i think you could just know the fact without having to watch it there's really nothing in here there's not a a spouting blood through a fossil shower that would have been incredible and it's not on christmas wouldn't this be great if this took place on christmas it just takes christmas eve two consecutive days during christmas vacation but not neither one is on christmas like they even make the point at the end they're like oh maybe we should open some presents and they're like no no we'll wait till christmas it's like oh it's not christmas now no it's not oh what is this movie about that we're in um letterboxed you put this above or below uh just tell me what you want well i guess if i had to watch another one again i would definitely watch this one over just tell me what you want yes sadly i have to agree uh that makes three of us an identical letterbox list so far because i would absolutely watch this again i kind of want to watch it now that we've been talking about it um cool well i think that about covers it for this one um if you guys have any thoughts you'd like to share with us we are vintage videopod on twitter facebook instagram and letterboxed where as i said before you can also find each of our full movie rankings for the year please consider rating us on itunes to help people find the show and if you find the time please leave us a review and we will thank you personally at the end of an upcoming episode if you're feeling especially generous you can support the show through patreon.comvintagevideopodcast thank you so much for listening and i hope you'll join us next time when we'll be discussing fatso we'll leave you now with the audio for the trailer for that film once upon a time there was a little boy who loved to eat and so he grew up to be a big boy who loved to eat yeah dom dinapoli loved to eat dumb sister antoinette thought he should stop eating so much i made an appointment for you with dr schwartzman doctor who dr schwartzman the diet doctor so when dom went on a diet broiled chicken and kale and non-fat milk for me she was very happy but when he didn't she was very unhappy [Music] now dom's brother frankie thought he should go on a diet too what makes you think there's even one drop one drop of honey left so dominic tried not to eat do not give me these keys no matter what and his brother was very happy it was no use dumb dinapoli and he really loved to eat and so he ate and they [Music] and then he ate some more and then one day he met lydia and love became his steady diet lydia lydia my name is dom [Music] tom video don de louise and bankrupt candy azara and ron kerry in fat zone from 20th century fox