we're on a mission from god wendy so i got that going darling looks like i picked the wrong way to quit sniffing blue light of my life we enjoy your films [Music] welcome to vintage video where we'll be reviewing every major film release of the 1980s in real time i'm patrick o'reilly i'm jesse bayless and i'm richard wells and today marks the 40th anniversary of the release of midnight madness on february 8 1980. it was written and directed by michael nankin and david wechter and released by buena vista distribution aka disney um although they tried to hide that uh when they were making the film and releasing it because they wanted people to think there might be boobs in it so they said buena vista everywhere instead of calling it disney pictures but it's a disney film through and through the theme song for the film was composed and possibly performed by the director and his wife um we start the movie on what looks like the csun campus and then move quickly to the disney lot do you agree that looked like the disneyland oh it definitely was the disneyland it had the same paint colors and the window coverings like cottage buildings and everything yeah it was definitely but it's supposed to be playing a college campus but most of it is just the the actual point of vista lot on buena vista and burbank um these two girls on roller skates are delivering invites to the heads of five teams for this contest um adam played by david naughton who is the lead in an american werewolf in london um harold who is uh played by stephen first who is in a bunch of stuff but they probably put him in this because of animal house because he's he's basically the lead of the animal house too yeah yeah i mean i i animal house is where i go i also go to the dream team the dream team with michael keaton peter boyle all the crazy people it's like a cuckoo's nest but a little less uh traumatic okay it's just michael keaton as the it's it's batman instead of joker leading a bunch of crazy people um and just takes them out of the insane asylum on a trip to go see a baseball game basically and stephen first is one of the people that sounds like an interesting movie when did that come out that's gonna be early 90s for sure um i would say mid to late 80s but it's also um does it have christopher lloyd yeah he's really so he's in both of them yeah we should check that out um i guess we will on this show in does it also several years right 89. and stephen first is like the guy that's obsessed with baseball right correct yeah he he only speaks in like baseball jargon uh which baseball comes up a lot and one floor for the cuckoo's nest also yeah so if this movie sounds interesting to you stick around this podcast for the next nine years we'll get there um so yeah we've covered adam and harold uh donna is the lead of the all-girl team played by maggie roswell do you guys know who maggie roswell is no maggie roswell is the voice of helen lovejoy mod flanders mrs hoover and luanne van houten oh yeah who i think uh if i'm not mistaken she kept asking for raises until they caught her out of the show and a traumatic episode for mr flanders yeah geez i'll get some hot dogs no footlongs i know they make you uncomfortable i think he's lost two wives now on the show but he he lost another wife since i stopped watching but she's still playing other characters is she yeah because i thought they just wrote helen lovejoy out of the show after mod died well i don't think i don't know about helen lovejoy but uh luanne van houten is still is she still okay and it's still maggie roswell according to imdb either way i was pretty sure it was a contract dispute that caused that character to be killed in the first place but it could be mistaken but yeah so uh maggie roswell is the head of of the all girls team wesley eddie diesen is the head of the all nerd team sorry were you gonna say sorry no i was trying to figure out because i was like i thought she died but that was that was mrs kerbable who was also married to flanders at the time on the show yeah and she died because they got married after um after mod passed away so he's just bad luck that guy yeah i just didn't want you to attribute a contract dispute to somebody if they had that would be sad no maggie roswell was alive and kicking um yeah eddie diesen eddie diesen is wesley the leader of the of the nerd team uh this is this the first character uh the first actor who i have met in person for many of these movies just got to meet someone from simon and then it's taking until now for for me to have met one of our cast members i have a picture of you with you have several pictures of us because he came to a midnight screening of midnight madness we couldn't stay for the movie but we stayed for the movies before it was like a triple feature i didn't realize that was the midnight movie boom yes um but uh eddie diesel was there and we went to take a picture and he kept blinking right when you took the picture so we have three or four pictures of him with his eyes closed standing next to me yeah but that's kind of his character that works but we got one with his eyes open eventually um but he kept saying oh i'm sorry i screwed that up can we do that again and just we kept doing it overnight he kept blinking every time every time it happened you just went man dark but uh people know eddie decent you know his voice he just especially the man dark man dark he was eugene in greece one and two um i i really like him in critters yeah in the one of the shape-shifting alien characters um small part in war games right and uh yeah malvin in war games and he was uh he was in 1941 just previous to this um there's a couple people from 1941 over the course of this movie and then the last team uh is the the leader is lavitas who um is played by brad wilkin who's kind of a budget kurt russell type character i feel like dirk blocker did the heavy lifting for that team it would make more sense for him to be the team leader but he's not the team leader it's the other guy but yeah so everyone meets with leon please hold your applause they're all surprised to meet that it's this postgraduate student leon who they're all familiar with who just kind of rolls out from behind a curtain to surprise them all um i really like this character like i feel like we every everybody had one of those friends who was just kind of like he was friends with everybody or he was kind of just that weirdo that like yeah you know just went too far with everything but he's like a natural leader somehow but uh this guy reminds me mostly of jay barachel but i see a little bit of like seth rogen and even a little bit of um what's his name from uh the spider-man movies and uh toby mcguire freaks and geeks uh debbie mcguire martin starr yeah martin starr a little bit yeah not toby mcguire he was not on freaks and geeks you could have also said the person who wrote homecoming because he was the main character on freaks and cakes i was gonna say james franco next because james franco he's also in spider-man and it was also in freaks and keys and the girl from freaks and geeks is hawkeye's wife but that's not spider-man really the spider-man adjacent um they both got if we start going spider-man adjacent we'll be here all day they both got snapped they blipped i guess is the turn well it's it's bl it's blipped on the sony side so they're gonna have to split it up um was there was there divorce papers that said you get blip and we get snap um i don't know who gets the bloop though do they both get to use the bloop that weird underwater sound do you know what i'm talking about it was a famous underwater recording it was probably like two icebergs dragging against each other but for a long time people pretended it was cthulhu or something they called it a bloop it's kind of like the wow signal that they've disproven also um anyway just ignore patrick here everyone i speak exclusively in uh obscure wikipedia references he does he always does i have to live with this um but yeah so he planned this game where these five teams will have to finish a uh sort of a scavenger hunt across los angeles following clues to locations for more clues it's like the amazing race um there's no prize and everyone immediately says no so uh yeah they all just get up and walk out like oh this is a waste of my time right today but luckily he strategically picked these particular people out because they knew that external forces would drive them back into the game they all basically hate each other enough that they're willing to try to beat each other and do this he has these two assistants candy and sunshine who are like oh no leon you're game you worked so hard on it and it totally fell apart and he's like no no you don't understand these people will be back they have no choice um they have no free will green team that is the the meat machine which is kind of the so the five teams are basically split into the the good guys the girl team the nerds the jocks and the animal house i don't like that you just call them the girl team like they're like a sorority i think you know you know just they're just girls i'm using 80s nomenclature there was a girl team there was the frat team and there was the jock team think sorority was a term in the 80s were they a sorority i believe they were okay yeah the sorority team the fraternity team the jocks the nerds and the good guys essentially and so the the jocks picked two fights immediately after having turned down this challenge one fight against the sorority where they just bust into a sorority party with a keg and spray everybody with beer with them and beer like is like big you know fire hose like bursts of beer coming out of this egg way more than it would have been in this keg and they destroy the entire house with it yeah that house is never gonna not smell like beer uh but they also go to a debate uh a competition and just start throwing food at the nerds and that's like just needlessly picking fights with both of these people after they turned down the competition um adam who is the the leader of the yellow team the good guy team uh is the counselor for the school although he appears to be a student also i think he decided he's like a senior or he's at least he's a student at the school but he counsels freshmen yeah his little placard distinctly said freshman counselor so you know we only let you you know help the most impressionable youth and he has this sort of geeky guy sitting in his at his chair and he's trying to talk him out of dropping out of school because the guy feels very uncomfortable and he's not he's not he's not getting into college life very well and uh and he says no no you got to give it a try we're going to figure things out we're going to make everything better you just got to stick it out um and then after that guy leaves laura who i guess is an assistant in the counseling office says you know what we should stay in the game if you want to be a good example to people and show people that dropping out is wrong we should do this challenge that leon set up um and it'll be a good a good way to show people what it's like to to stick to it um so back at harold's house harold is the frat team led by this john belushi ripoff yeah um and uh he's just a total [ __ ] he's just like throwing stuff on the ground just to make the maid clean it up but it's not a handful of candy now but his whole team is nothing but yeah they're all a bunch of they don't even really they don't even seem to really like him yeah how are we defining this team again what do we call the frat they're the frat team yeah i don't know i don't really feel like they're fret i feel like they're supposed to be the animal house group because you have to differentiate them from the jocks who are all in letterman jackets and everything yeah these guys are definitely not the jocks but i feel like i don't know if they're i feel like they're maybe the rich kids actually i don't know because you know because he feel like frat guys are there's always like one frank guy who his dad has you know the em50 urban assault vehicle for some reason yeah i mean the fact that they include this like you know this there is there's also the girlfriend is on the team right but i also feel like that's sort of like it's it's kind of weird that she's dating him in the first place so i feel you know like because he's just this big fat mean slob well i felt like the i mean the nerds and the jocks are obviously polar opposites so if you have a sorority team then the other team is inherently the fraternity team but you're right that i mean the guy's girlfriend is on the team and they don't talk about a fraternity or live in a fraternity house he lives with his dad yeah so i don't know i feel like like i would have defined them as the rich kids okay then they're the rich kids but they're also just impressively stupid um and uh harold is immediately getting chewed out by his dad because somehow his dad found out probably just leon just straight up called him because everyone in town right right right and he's like i just found out that adam is gonna play leon's game you got to play leon's game why would you drop out he's like but dad and he's like don't butt dad me you're gonna do this and he's like okay fine i guess i'll do it and he finds out that oh not only are you gonna do it but i have the perfect tool for you this super cheater van with a mega computer and it's basically the urban assault vehicle it's just like a really long motor home with a bunch of cool stuff in it that we'll they can use to win this contest with an impossible computer that you could just essentially write anything into it that we don't have now but somehow existed these clues would confuse the hell out of watson yeah the yellow team borrows a jeep from a friend like they're they're making fun of this guy's jeep to kind of nag him into letting them use his jeep for the contest um and uh the blue team that's the the rich kid team gets their high-tech van and this whole time everyone's on harold's case about his eating habits so he's having to eat in secret and complain whenever people like talk food out of his hands so he's he goes through the van and it's like packing it with marshmallows and oreos oreos and snacks all over the place so that he can just sneak them out while they're on the contest and not have to worry about people bugging him about food um godfrey made you go one evening without eating yeah um adam is back at the counseling office and the nerd comes by and he's like hey you know i actually set up a date and he's like oh that's great you just met this girl and he's like well my mom set it up but anyway we're gonna go on a date do you know a good place we could go and he's like oh sure and he opens the door and sees like a girl standing there and they and she's way too nerdy for this guy according to adam's taste and so they just slam the door in her face and leave out the other door and he's like no you're on our team now for this game that we're playing on like how horrible or like a student counselor like are you to just you know do this he's clearly only a good freshman male counselor because he doesn't care about the freshman girl like in the hallway he was supposed to be going on a date she's all dressed up it's so sad and they brush it off like it's a joke it would have been a perfect after credit scene to just show her crying outside the door at the counseling office she was perfect for him too yeah i mean she exactly yeah the guy they they were made for each other um so he steals this this geeky guy flinch away from his date to join the team um so now we everybody meets up with leon and candy and sunshine outside of some random building um i forget where he told them to meet him but he said we're going to be running game control and they both have game control shirts except for leon has the game master shirt or whatever something like that and uh and he gives everybody the first clue in an envelope and the girls hand out shirts that just conveniently match the colors of all their vehicles so the nerds are on white bikes because they're the white team the white mopeds white mopeds the the high-tech blue van they all get blue shirts uh meat machine it's a green bug they have a green volkswagen bug so they get green shirts the sorority team has a red pickup truck and uh the good guys just have this yellow jeep that they brought their friend into borrowing the two of the sorority girls are like they're like these twins i think they're twins they are identical they like they just squeak like dolphins they don't have any they don't have any lines but they laugh like squeaking dolphins at each other all the time and they ride in the back of the pickup truck just freaking away yeah for the whole movie um so they get the first clue and the clue is the sea is reversed ss atari is mixed up and blind 38 22 23 so reversing the c means see the instead of the c blind means take the eyes out and mixed up means you rearrange the letters to get c the stars but c is spelled s-e-a the clue is supposed to be the words see the stars none of the other ones are like this the the rest of them are just very straightforward sentences but this one the clue was see the stars and the four teams that are on the road all have different interpretations of this clue none of them are the one that we immediately jumped to which is oh the griffith observatory yeah but the four teams that are like oh see the stars let's go to the wax museum let's get a map of celebrity homes let's go to the the walk of fame let's go to the uh what is it the star they go to some overlook it's like something no uh no i think that was the star's home the sorority team says they're going to go to a disco oh yeah yeah no they went to some like roller rink or something yeah but yeah so then we get a quick bit at leon's house and his landlady wants to kick him out basically she says she has a letter that she can evict him if she gets one more complaint um because she just hates him even though he's not even making noise yet he's just sitting in his office like tracking them on the wall he painted all of los angeles on the wall so they could keep track of where they are it's actually a pretty cool map yeah absolutely yeah it's like one of those uh novelty maps you would buy like it'd be like on the back of like a bob's burgers menu or something yeah yeah it's like a caricature yeah over exaggerated landmarks and some major streets and that's it um so the yellow team thinks that the numbers are the longitude and latitude on a star map but they're not having any luck the green team thinks that it's bra sizes at the wax museum the white team is counting steps up and down the walk of fame and lands on mickey mouse's star because this is a disney movie but they don't know what that means they're just like oh what does this mean i assume that if i were on that team i'd be like okay let's go to disneyland right like or go to the disney lot like that would be the obvious interpretation of mickey mouse was where the clue led them if they thought that that was the actual clue um and the sorority team is taking steps into this disco and just end up like colliding with some people in the club and then suddenly the twins are like doing a little dance number and squeaking like dolphins um but uh the blue team just plugs the clue into their computer and immediately gets griffith observatory um because the computer can like totally unscrambles the clue and then figures out exactly like what and it's not like there was a correct answer here like any of these could have been the correct interpretation of see the stars but the computer somehow knows that he's talking about the griffith observatory and says that's where you have to go and uh and that it's the coordinates of probably the telescope at the observatory um so eventually each of the teams comes to that conclusion oh stars the observatory let's go um and they're all up there and yellow team ends up getting to the telescope room first and they have to sort of haggle this kid to get off of it well they get there after blue team is left blue team's like well they're still parked outside yeah blue team's laughing as they're leaving yeah and then he calls up leon and he's like hey your game's too easy i think we'll be done in an hour and uh so they have to convince the kid that's on the telescope to leave the telescope but the kid the kids they're really late at night on like a week night looking through a telescope his dad claims that he's studying venus for like some paper but like he's clearly not looking at venus we see what he's looking at is actually just well venus has many meanings and he's looking at a woman on dress which i don't think you could see from the angle of this telescope on the top of the hollywood hills um but also i think we've discussed this uh when we covered the griffith observatory and the macgyver pilot but isn't venus one of those ones that you can only see like dawn and dusk yeah but i mean this is after sunset just after sunset was it just after sunset i thought it was like night no because uh he they started they officially started the game at sunset oh okay that's what his watch goes off is it is now sunset okay but they eventually uh trick the kid by saying wait a minute isn't that venus over there and then the dad turns around like the dad has any idea what venus looks like and it's just like the kid's like okay uh we're good let's go and they check and see what the kid was looking at and that's this woman changing but they adjust the telescope to look at what they were trying to see right as all the other teams are starting to barge in um and and you know i have to say good on the the green team for figuring that much they they figure out quite a few things yeah and you wouldn't think that they would jeez richard way to stereotype the jocks i know that's what they got pretty sure that the movie just because they play football doesn't mean they're dumb but so they they figure out what the telescope's supposed to point at which is like a roadside traffic sign that has their next clue um which says find the 8 800 keys and then when the green team is like all right we're gonna look through that telescope so they reset the telescope to look at this woman's bedroom again so that the guys are distracted long enough to give them more of a head start how long does this woman take to change well for some reason everyone has a much easier time with this clue i found it to unlock the next clue find the 8 800 keys because immediately everyone is at this piano museum well yeah because you say 8 800 keys and you automatically think of a piano right or 100 pianos or yeah i mean 88 keys is pretty well known yeah um but yeah so they're all there basically at the same time one of leon's neighbors comes in to complain about the noise because now it's starting to get loud in there um and then realizes oh there's this weird interesting game going on um and the guy that comes in is the voice of piglet yeah john fiedler yeah um and he uh he was also in twelve angry men the original he was in a lot of stuff and but i think you know because his that is his voice yeah piglet's voice is is almost his regular voice yeah uh he's just one of those people um i always remember him from the uh art kearney santa claus twilight zone episode oh okay uh which is one of my favorites i don't know that one what is the premise uh art connie is like a like a drunk uh but he always wants to do like nice things for people but he can't and he finds santa's bag and starts handing out gifts uh because every time he reaches then he can pull out whatever he wants oh okay uh and it turns out it's because he's been his his gif his spirit of giving uh has basically the santa claus rules like he's he's become the next santa oh okay so he killed santa that's the rule you have to murder santa with santa claus when they reboot the santa claus movies they're gonna have to have someone kill tim allen at the beginning right like that's how you get the job oh what if somebody actually takes that too far does kill tim allen to get the reboot job whoever kills tim allen will become the next tim allen as tim allen became tim allen in the tim allen clause i feel like we should put a disclaimer here don't kill tim allen or if you do don't tell people that you listen to this vintage video does not uh condone the killing of tim allen i mean we're not fans or anything but don't kill him just because he's an awful person anyway is he a novel person yeah he's terrible oh no yeah he's pretty rough edit this part out you can stand up for him all you want i'm going to say on the record vintage video does not condone tim allen but anyway uh harold uh almost gets caught eating a bunch of marshmallows and decides to dump them all into the innards of the computer in their in their vehicle um adam sees his brother on a bench trying to skip town and he's like oh what are you doing mom and dad are on a trip i'm supposed to be taking care of you now i got to drag you around all night because i can't trust you to stay in town um so everyone's at this piano place and they can't find the clue even though it's sitting upright on a pedestal in the middle of the room like dead center really obvious did we ever figure out if there ever actually was a piano museum in l.a i think there was i mean it all of these locations are real uh so far and for the rest of the movie they are all authentic so i feel like they must have at least used real places so but we get a nice little musical interlude here too as uh stephen first team starts playing soul on the pianos yeah on on multiple instruments and then suddenly instruments that aren't in the room start joining in the arrangement um i mean they're they're dumb as bricks but they seem to be able to play this music all right well that's because they're the rich team so they get like hammered on piano lessons when they're kids but they also get hammered on alcohol and they're stupid and someone finally notices this clue and they start playing the music and again the the meat machine team is the one to solve the clue because one of them plays the notes of the of leon's theme which are printed up on top of the piano and he recognizes it as the pabst blue ribbon jingle um so everyone rushes off to the pabst brewery which was in los angeles do we have that do we have that jingle i sure here it is wow that's really great no i'm just curious because i didn't actually like go and try to find the commercial or anything well here's what they play in the movie [Music] wait a second i know that song anyway i got pap's blue ribbon on my mind it's [Music] and then here is the actual jingle from the commercials to for comparison [Music] naturally good perhaps so everyone rushes off to the pabst brewery in los angeles which did exist and was shut down in 1979 so maybe this was like literally right after it shut down and they recorded in the brewery after it had been evacuated that's why they let the uh let them film in there and like the guys inside the equipment yeah yeah um so it's possible that they did it right after it was shut down or maybe just before it had officially shut down um when everyone knew that they were getting laid off yeah do whatever the hell you want i don't care it's like hey is it cool if we shoot a movie at that where your job is closing down he's like yeah i still have a key um but yeah so they they're in this brewery um scott adams little brother tries to order beer at a bar and the thing and we didn't mention this before but scott who actually in his previous scene didn't have a single line he just kind of makes facial expressions about yeah not being able to leave town but this is michael j fox michael j fox's first feature film appearance um so freaking young yeah and i think he was like 16 at the time and they needed a kid who was available for night shoots kind of similar to what happened with back to the future that uh because he had the day job on tv and they ended up shooting all of his stuff at night or most of it at night um but yeah so uh he tries to get beer and gets his whole team thrown in the the brig of this brewery which is brewery brig which is just where they store the beer yeah so they're like no you can't have beer get in the beer locker and they throw them in a room just full of beer but then while they're sitting in there this forklift is dropping pallets of of beer with a big drawing on the side of it that has the next clue mr carson's obese male child what kind of clue is that i feel like that had been hard to coordinate like how do you plan that the forklift is gonna put these particular cases in this location at the right time just when they're being thrown in there well it doesn't have to be just when they're being thrown in there he was counting on these people being enough of a mess to get thrown in where he's been thrown when he got out of line at the brewery and that's this room and he met that guy when he was locked in that room and said hey if i drew some art on these boxes could you put them over there on friday night or whenever i don't know i'm making up a lot of backstory but yeah blaylac dirk blocker from the meat machine jumps in a tank of beer while they're there which reminds me a lot of the beer fest scene uh when the bad guys toss one of their teammates in a big vat of beer to drown him and he starts drinking the entire thing spoiler alert he drowns the opposite happens in strange brew oh right when he drinks all the beer it's just the size of the tank yeah um that's a weird movie it has the it's rick moranis and what's his name dave thomas dave thomas yeah and max von said was it was yeah he's like the crazy guy oh my gosh that's funny the founder of wendy's was in that movie uh no that's dave thomas this is dave thomas you're confusing them but anyway the next clue the next clue working on the side of the boxes is mr carson's obese male child which i would have just been like ed mcmahon [Music] but they see mr carson and assume that they're saying johnny an obese male child means fat boy because it's a clue directing them to johnny's fat boy burgers a restaurant on wilshire which is an actual location on wilshire still there and still has a johnny's sign but it's never been a johnny's fat boy burger it's just a fake shell of a restaurant which i thought was the restaurant from pulp fiction but it is not the one from pulp fiction was hawthorne grill and it's no longer there but this place johnny's is a real place on wilshire and it was used in the big lebowski that scene where he says i can get your toe believe me there are ways dude you don't want to know about a believer yeah but walter hell i'd get your toe by three o'clock this afternoon with nail polish reservoir dogs so tarantino did shoot there at least miracle mile american history x so it's been in a lot of big movies and it's only used for movies it's not a real diner more neighbors join leon's party it's getting more crowded and the landlord keeps popping in and reminding him if i get one complaint you're out on your ass the blue team is now computerless uh because all the marshmallows melted into their computer that's so weird i always store my marshmallows in my computer and they're fine i store my computer in my marshmallows to keep it cool so it you know works either way i only put stuff in marshmallows when it gets wet if you drop your phone and water you gotta put it in a big bag of marshmallows and if you ever cook in your marshmallows and they get a little too dry throw some bones in there what none of this makes sense um the blue team is computerless so they don't have any way to solve the clue mr carson's obese male child unless they just like notice the other cars and they do um even though they were at this piano museum now suddenly they're on wilshire and notice the cars and so they pull up next to the yellow team's car and let all the air out of their tires before they go in and and drain their gas tanks yeah i feel like they are acting like this movie takes place in a small town this is like taking place it's huge it is sprawling and i guess it wasn't quite as sprawling in 1980 but it is still pretty darn big that you wouldn't just randomly run across the people that you go to school with in their car on the street yeah but johnny's is clearly here playing a parody of like uh a bob's big boy but apparently they couldn't get the rights to bob speak boy i guarantee it was bob's big boy in the first draft of the script the clue written on the menu as they enter the restaurant is look between the two giant melons so everyone orders like a bunch of melons and this waitress is trying to bring melons to all the tables but she also has giant boobs and they're all like what is between the melons i don't get it and they're not looking at her but then finally someone realizes oh she has a necklace and there's something written on it on a little pendant right between her melons right and so they start doing like horrible things to try to get her attention to get her over to like see her necklace like nobody actually just goes up to be like oh what a pretty necklace can i see that you know they start like throwing dishes on the floor and making them there's a cockroach in my water and then steven first wins the attention contest by literally standing up and just sweeping all of their garbage onto the floor and instead of like running to the back room and locking the safe room she's like oh i'll help you first since you have the biggest mess even though you clearly just made it yourself but then someone finally gets close enough to read that it says hug me on her necklace um which i think is a weird like it's a weird necklace it's a weird clue all of it's weird because one is she wearing the necklace as a part of the part of the game i think so and if so like saying hug me as a clue would meet am i supposed to hug her to get the next part of the clue right right because but they they put together that it's somehow uh another word scramble yeah it might be scrambled now what can we make of this uh he mug gum he wait a minute say that last word again hugeum but also it's only two letters that are scrambled yeah that is weird right so supposed to be a huge m yeah when they're rearranging the letters they realize oh where is there a huge m oh at the mini golf place um which actually i said before that they're all real locations i mean i'm pretty sure it's that castle golf place or whatever but um but it's not the place that it's playing and johnny's also isn't a real restaurant so i lied to you earlier and i just wanted to come clean about that i will never trust you again they're not all real places some of them are fabricated for the purposes of the film so they're looking for a huge m and they uh they start heading to the golf place now that the tires are out adam and flinch basically try to hitchhike to the huge m while um laura and scott kind of get separated because scott's sad because his brother doesn't like him and he's really mad at his brother because his brother forgot that it's his birthday even though his parents also went out of town on his birthday on his son's birthday and we're just like sometimes you gotta go out of town and it might coincide with the kid's birthday right but if it does you'd probably say something like oh by the way don't forget it's scott's birthday on wednesday so you know get him a cookie or some [ __ ] just like do something nice for your brother because we're gonna be gone but uh anyway he's just he wandered into the parking lot and is petting some stray dog that's sticking out of the car um is it a stray dog if it's sticking out of a car i think so by sticking out a car he's just sticking his head out of a window you made it sound like he's a distant bodybuilder yeah somebody ran over a stray dog and it's corpse was hanging out of a car and then michael j fox went over and pet the corpse um he's a very macabre child yes he doesn't he forgot my birthday yeah can you stop touching that um stop hitting it from the inside what side am i supposed to put um so uh adam and flinch get to the golf course everybody gets to the golf course they all figure out the clue they all get to the golf course at the same time every single one of these clues it's pointless they're all getting there at the same time um and there's a lot of fighting uh and confusion at the golf course the girls get um a parking ticket because they park illegally at the golf course um and the uh rich kids try to cheat yeah they go straight to the 18th whole thinking that they can just cut to the cut to the end which they think they succeed at because like this this flag pops up after they get the ball in the hole and they get like this envelope off the flag and then they read it and they're like it's just as i told you not to cheat yeah yeah so does that happen for everyone who plays that golf course we know just that it somehow can detect or maybe there's like a person under there that pushed the flag up uh so as they're playing through the golf course um adam and flinch find a sign that says look at xylophone initially 5 30 a.m and look at xylophone initially to me as an occasional crossword puzzle enthusiast i recognize initially means just use the first letters of the last three words so it's a very simple crossword puzzle clue that means lax and then the 5 30 a.m is the confusing part of it uh i i kind of i wanted to to make the comment during the movie was this sounds a lot like uh murdoch's letter during the uh when he's pretending to be the oh yeah the head of the play yeah and they get that like cryptic acrostic of uh of just saying his own name murdock yeah um but yeah so they go to lax um and the yolo team is immediately uh blocked by these hari krishna people esque looking right they're clearly dressed as hari krishnas um and they try to hand off some flyers and obviously the flyers you know mitch hedberg hear you throw this away they just drop the flyer immediately after walking away and well and everyone's actually like all the different teams are incredibly mean to these guys right but it was 1980 everyone was really mean to these people like literally in the movie airplane later this year people are just walking up and punching the hare krishnas in the face the second they start talking like i guess i maybe i don't know like because i wasn't i wasn't at an airport in 1980 i was you know i wasn't alive in 1980. i was probably at an airport in 1982 barely because my mom was a flight attendant when she was pregnant with me i have been given literature at airports like where are they mean are they aggressive no no no they're just annoying they're just annoying like how i just can't have you ever hung up on a like uh you know a person selling you something is not standing in front of me like i just can't would you hate them any less if they were standing in front of you i think people are more civil if they're standing in front of people that it's like it's like road rage you wouldn't you wouldn't you know yell at somebody and scream in their face and flip them off if they'd cut you off on a sidewalk you know like you're guessing things about me okay i'm just saying like you're more aggressive when you're not standing for a person like somebody's standing in front of me i'm not gonna just like you know hit them and smack all the papers out of their hands no but it's it's i think they did it in a very harassing manner well in this movie but in reality it's that they they try to he was like oh just a minute of your time and and even if you say no it's like oh no it'll just be a minute it's like i just wanted to read this it's okay i understand you know you got places to go like they they keep trying to talk to you they keep trying to engage with you you've made it clear what they're doing in this movie i think was on par with what people actually did which was no i don't want your papers buy just walk past them and we're very dismissive i think airplane takes it up another level with the punching the people or like physically getting aggressive with them but i think in real life people were like in this movie no get out of like shoving them maybe but not like literally just punching them in the face yeah um but yeah so they uh they get to the airport and they're wandering around um they get the clue that 5 30 a.m isn't is a radio frequency um which airport traffic yeah it's the airport traffic station which i find surprising that leon could co-opt the airport traffic i'm sure he just had a pirate station set up very nearby and hijacked the frequency but i think that the 5 30 a.m thing is a local frequency already like it is he had to overpower it with another local radio right and and then use it just at the moment that they happen to be there yeah well there's a lot of convenient timing in this movie he also like if he tried to do this today would immediately be like oh guess what we got you a ticket to guantanamo because you're a terrorist now um you can't hijack lax radio or leave things in lockers yeah but yeah but it turns yeah wrapped in like wrapped gifts luggage you didn't bring with you to the airport um but the krishna people it turns out are spies for leon that are telling him who got there and at what time which is really irrelevant to leon i mean i guess he's vaguely keeping track yeah he's got an audience just move the cars down to the lax logo they're all at the same place at the same time he has to he has to keep up the the the show now for his audience of i guess they're all other tenants of his building yeah that are all just walking in and it's not like they're betting on it or well they eventually are yeah but at the beginning they're just so intrigued with the game that they're walking in like that and they're televised or anything like that yeah you're just getting solutions every hour and 45 minutes that says hey they're here now well it's uh i kind of think you were you were talking about uh this was the inspiration for like a real thing and then it led to the game yeah the great all-nighter or something like that right uh but to me this was a lot more like it's mad mad mad mad world yeah uh where it's not so much that they're following clues in that but it's the the constant reporting of everyone's progress and the game of it from the perspective of the police who are taking bets on it yeah and who are placing all their little pins on maps and following them how they're where they're going when did that film come out is it madman madworld i would say 60 1963 but it is it is playing at the airport 63. i was off by a year i was close you were close um but yeah so while they're at lax they realize that these flyers that they're that someone's trying to hand them uh which eventually a stack of them gets thrown in the air and they all land on the ground people are like hey there's a picture of leon on this and it says for them to check lockers and nearby there's a set of five lockers that are color coded to the teams everybody goes in and grabs um only theirs only theirs which uh strategically you would want to grab everyone's presence throw four of them in the trash uh and take one they open them up and they have four things inside three polaroids and uh and a ball well they weren't double polarized two polaroids in a letter letter e and a ball yeah and uh one of the guys in the in the blue van is immediately like oh cherry point and he's like what are you talking about he's like chair because there's a guy sitting in a chair the letter e and pointy for a safety pin and and they're like okay what's the ball for he's like whee she's gonna like talk slaps at a box and launches it across the car and then they start fighting in the car um but adam sees it and immediately goes oh pinball sit e pinball city which is it looked like a another real place just based on the fact that i don't think they would bother to make the sign for this place looked like flynn's arcade to me yeah but they didn't bother to make the signage for the starfire video game right yes um which is what it's it's an actual star wars game yeah it was it's the the the vector graphics uh star wars game right but it's playing the star fire video game yeah and the proprietor of the pinball plays this is like a prophecy that disney would own that property too and today they just knew but um we also get uh the first ever feature film appearance of pee-wee herman and not pee-wee herman paul rubens who would later play pee-wee herman but this is his first feature film and he's dressed like a little cowboy yeah he looks very pee-wee herman and he's uh he runs the pinball city and uh he's yelling at everybody to be good and um he gives them a bunch of money to keep playing this game because it becomes clear that this game is important to the challenge he walks up to um the guy i forget what his name was that was um the guy whose jeep it was the guy who's cheap it was and he points a gun at him and he's like i got you didn't i and then he points the gun at his palm and pulls the trigger and a bunch of quarters fall out so they can keep playing this game well he was give he gave him like a 20. like that was he was exchanging money but that's how like at this arcade that's how they exchange money is he's got a gun full of quarters that he shoots into people's hands i missed that point um but that's uh so he gives them all these coins um and they sit down to play this star wars game over and over again the point being you have to beat this game um to get the clue and adam's not very good at the game but scott beats it all the time and uh and he's just like yeah well both so he's in the corner of the room beating it watching them play this game and uh and he's just laughing at them because they're not good at the game and uh and laura walks over and she's like what's the matter what's so funny and he's just like i beat that game every day like you guys are doing terrible i could beat that game with my eyes closed and she's like oh okay well let's go tell adam you're amazing at this and he's like no no i hate my brother he's me i don't want to help him do anything so um eventually she talks him into sitting down and he beats the game handily and a video starts playing of leon and meanwhile there's two other teams now have shown up and can hear the audio we forgot we forgot how they knew they had to play this game though there was like a there was the machine the um like one of those old old yeah it was it was like a zoltar machine it was like a you know a wish-giving one but like it was clearly a woman like like doing your fortune telling and they had a leon beard on it i just love her they like pasted on this leon beard to turn the woman into like the dude but yeah so that tells them to play the game and so they sit down but this video like leon has somehow hacked into the arcade to make the video game play an actual like vhs tape at the end or a beta tape probably yeah of him saying wearing little like alien like antenna and he tells them that the finish line is at the bonaventure hotel and loud enough for the green and red teams the meat machine and the for or the sorority team to hear where they're supposed to go but instead of following the yellow team out of the building immediately they stick around and fight each other and completely destroy the pinball city place seriously like they break everything in the whole entire location and the girls are like laying across those like the those cannons that you shoot you knock over like little puppets with it and uh the guys are just throwing stuff from behind the ticket stand and uh they're just for like 20 minutes crashing into or throwing stuff and breaking everything in the place but it doesn't matter because once again everyone arrives at the bottom right everyone gets to the hotel at the same time even though everyone they should have all had you know different arrival times but uh adam doesn't even say thanks to scott for beating the game or acknowledge it in any way he's like come on we gotta go and then scott's like what the hell man like i was trying to help and you don't care and he just runs off because he feels like he's not being acknowledged and he's like okay let's go to the bonaventure hotel and uh their driver is like i'm not going i'm not gonna drive this car like you're being so mean to your brother and laura's like we gotta go find him like what are you talking about so adam leaves on his own he takes the car yeah and leaves the other two to find his brother yeah so they're like chasing his brother down but they don't even the uh laura and the other guy don't find the brother the brother like wanders off into the middle of the street and the blue van pulls up and he can hear stephen first inside going i just want the next clue i don't know what's going on he's like i could tell you where the finish line is and uh they're like oh we'll get in the car then and instead of being like taking advantage of a potential turn coat and being like we'll give you whatever you want like it's going to be great they're like threatening him and like telling like he was offering you the information to give you the information and he clearly is mad at his brother like all you had to do was be nice to him for five minutes but instead they're already like shouting in his face and interrogating him and eventually they throw him out of the car in the middle of the street and that's a really rough throw yeah after he gave up the location right finish line um but yeah so while scott has been gone laura has explained to adam we need to find your brother it's important and also you're a jerk you forgot his birthday um which adam didn't realize until this point so uh he turns around and he picks them up and he says we're gonna go find my brother and then they find him in the middle of the street and he gives them a big hug and then they all head off to the bonaventure hotel um leon gets there first because leon has to check in with all of his all the people from his apartment building who are all coming up to his likes double room including the the landlady who has now been arrested right so the landlady was arrested because she called the police to uh file the final complaint that would get leon evicted and while the police were in the apartment learning how the game worked she picked up his his uh ham radio or something and threw it on the ground to break it and it's like oh that's destruction of property so you're under arrest but they want to see how the game ends so they first they bring her to the bonaventure hotel with them so everybody including the handcuffed landlady the police all of his neighbors his two assistants and himself all fit comfortably in this one room for supposedly right people um it was like a suite it was like right but at the front desk he says it's literally it's just a double room like you have there's a lot of people with you there's not this room it won't support that it's a 1980s double room right yeah that's true um but the teams all start to arrive at that hotel and hotel security is immediately brought up like hey you need to fix this because there's people driving mopeds oh we i forgot to mention that before they left the the pinball city uh the meat machine crashed their vw bug into the the sorority pickup truck and pushed it over a barrier into the l.a river that's just into this empty concrete basin crashes upside down so they end up getting a ride from the nerds to get down to um well they do a trade with the nerds because when the so the nerds showed up at the pinball place yeah the fight had already ensued and they had they broke they broke the machine right as the nerds were sitting down so the nerds couldn't get the clue and so the nerds didn't have the clue and the sorority didn't have a ride and so they made a joint a joint effort to get to the final location together and even when they're at the location they continue to work together to to search against grain machine well they immediately are uh try they try to get arrested by the uh by the hotel security and they fight with them for a while um there's a lot of hijinks going on all over this hotel we get a quick look at the control room for the elevators while one team is getting distracted um and suddenly leon comes on the pa system and says look at the pool area and i mean this expressly meaning get on the express elevator to look at the pool from above um and two teams figure that out well one team figures it out and the other team follows them yeah so they get on the express elevator and while they're going up they see oh leon's in this particular room of the hotel so that's where we need to go right from overhead it's spelled out in like lawn chairs or something right but because this is the express elevator they have to take it the whole way to the top of the hotel and then the whole way back down so what's interesting to me is like why they went back down the elevator like at that point i feel like i know it's the express elevator so it won't go to the correct floor there should be other elevators on that floor that aren't expressed but there should be a different elevator at the top that isn't expressed or stairs or there should be stairs and you could go down the number of stairs that's true the stairs makes more sense i was going to say maybe there is only the express elevator if to the penthouse maybe but but you're right there would at least in case of a fire there should be stairs there would definitely be stairs and i would just take the stairs down to that floor because i feel like that would be faster than going all the way back down to the and then all the way back up but instead the the rich kids team stops their elevator and gets out and then shuts off all the elevators by cutting the power to the control room so now hotel security is stuck in one elevator the yellow team is stuck in the other elevator and the rest of the teams are outside fighting right and the blue team is free to go up the stairs to get to leon's floor in the finish line um so they are going to struggle for the overweight meatheads specifically just stephen first it seems like the rest of them could have gone up without him but they kept hanging back to make fun of him but it's 27 floors i mean that's a lot were they starting from the bottom i guess they were yeah started from the bottom now they're here let me know when we get to 20. i'm gonna throw up where do these stairs go up they go up so they decide that we're gonna hack our way out of this elevator so the yellow team says oh they shut off the power but you know what doesn't require power these power doors if i had a wire i could stick them in this keyhole and that would make electricity because that's how electricity works so they don't have any wire though but scott has a retainer so he takes it out and they bend it all out of shape do you know how expensive retainers are in the 80s yeah it depends on the attorney i think that his parents are going to be furious that that retainer his parents are rich they're out of town on business on their kids birthday they make bank but anyway they have a perfectly good retainer yeah but that's fine he's his teeth they'll buy a new one with a cash prize there was no that's right they're doing this for literally no reason they totaled their pickup truck in the la river and they destroyed like four businesses over the course of the night johnny's just gonna have to shut down for a week to replace all their dishes which looked like they were like earthenware like it would like every plate and dish in that place was like like brown matte like a weird shape it looks like probably just weird breakaway plates i think yeah they just made them for the for that one shoot those those sounds sounded real well you can't fake sound [ __ ] you can't yeah it definitely can't break plates separately and comp that in well i guess if you had to break plates to get the recording then you broke plates that's expensive already anyway um yeah so they hack the elevator open and they get to the 27th floor uh and uh right as they're coming out of the elevator on one side of the hall the blue team is coming out of the elevator on the other side of the hall and then um stephen first basically pulls the fire hose off of the wall but he doesn't just pull the fire hose off the wall he takes the other guy on his team's hand and he'll break with the other guy's hand and then pulls the hose out and then he lines up like he's going to spray them and then at the last second the police get out of their elevator and or the hotel security get out of their elevator right when he turns the hose on and suddenly harold is spraying all the hotel security with water and getting arrested and so yellow team is able to walk triumphantly into leon's room and win the game um and basically we cut right to a party like an after party happening at the hotel pool and everyone's happy about it yeah everybody cares if it's just a game it was it's so it was like the most heartwarming moment that everyone's just kind of laughing and having a good time about what happened and again there's no prize there's no prize they got a plaque they didn't even get the placard they didn't even get a whole congratulations speech they move into the lobby of the hotel only and says for your work here today and then he gets cut off by the blue team getting arrested and then suddenly harold just like runs over and eats the entire platter of food that's set out for them and knocks his girlfriend into the pool or like a fountain in the lobby and that's like the end of the movie that's basically he just interrupts their their prize ceremony i mean presumably they got the placard later but in the movie they don't even get the placard that they want for this contest it's it's not clear why anyone was even trying so hard to win this when they didn't get anything out of it they had their pride yeah that's true well the writer and director of this movie there were two guys that wrote and directed it michael nankin this was his first feature he's done a lot of tv um eight episodes of the battlestar galactica reboot um he also uh wrote the gate and the gate two nice um and a movie called ruski's um and david wechter who did the music with his wife and co-wrote and co-directed was the director of most of the episodes maybe all of the episodes of penn teller's [ __ ] oh um and he also uh wrote the faculty he had a story credit on the faculty i have a weird love-hate relationship with that movie well it's it's the best thing rodriguez has ever and will ever do um david naughton obviously uh we mentioned before this was his first feature film but he came back to play david in american werewolf in london next year uh he plays dan in hot dog the movie which is hot dog the movie coming up later in the 80s that's interesting there's a connection to that later that's the only reason i bring it up um he also played martin casera in ice cream man which is the movie about uh as a murderous ice cream man and he played ambassador kessler in sharknado 5. so he's still working um deborah klinger who played laura on the yellow team uh she plays a character named super chick in a bunch of sid and marty croft stuff like they had a bunch of like variety hour stuff and this character apparently crossed over into an episode of the bradys at one point um she's still around she's alive but she doesn't have any credits after 1982 so i don't know if she just retired from working or what michael j fox this is his first film ever you know him from teen wolf back to the future and probably the clone high pilot is his best known work uh where he played one of gandhi's kidneys i miss him yeah we're not gonna talk about uh spin city spin city yeah what's this um no uh yeah i guess when cities kind of well now but clone high if you like when people hear michael j fox they think gandhi's remaining kidney from cologne high um steven first harold the blue team leader was dorfman in animal house the dwarf dwarfman and he was in the dream team with michael keaton we said before patricia alice albrecht who was lucille on the blue team uh harold's girlfriend uh she kind of seems like one of those like the the bad guy like bad girls from like one of those 80s cartoons because she is the voice of pizzazz the lead singer of the gem rivals the misfits oh there you go animated series um she actually has a lot of animated credits uh one that i thought was interesting not an animated credit a live action credit for her is called force five which i think for most people would remember five have never owned oh that's first ten no no it's called force colon five which reminded me of fox force five which i think must be a reference to this because force five is about a martial arts expert who leads a team of fellow martial artists to rescue a senator's daughter from an island ruled by an evil cult leader um so that sounds very fox force five-ish fox force five is the pilot that uma thurman had shot in the movie pulp fiction fictional pilot it's also about a team of martial artists um andy tennant who played emilio on the blue team uh who is just one of the other dumb guys in the in the blue van um he is mostly a director he directed uh orb scholar and briscoe for the defense yeah he did from briscoe county junior uh he directed the sliders pilot he directed the bill and ted animated series pilot um he also directed it takes two fools rush in ever after sweet home alabama hitch and fool's gold and a couple of episodes of parker some of those movies there you go don't want to admit that i really like ever after um and he's currently homing a feature film adaptation of the secret yes that the secret the adaptation of the the movie word if you if you think it then it will be um he also appeared in greece one and two prior to this and he appeared as babyface in 1941 so he was with eddie diesen in greece one grease two babyface in 1941 and this the movie 1941 right he didn't appear right in baby's face well he probably had a baby face in 1941 no he's not definitely not 40 in this movie uh brian fishman who played barf on the blue team is also in 1941 as a uso goon was that a disney movie too no no uh was that uh amblin i don't know spielberg director director and megas and gayle wrote it uh i don't remember um sal lopez who was also on the blue team played t-h-e rock in full metal jacket maggie roswell we said before was the voice of a bunch of simpsons characters the twins peggy and lulu from the red team we're also in a movie called hamburger the motion picture so we have someone from hot dog the movie and hamburger the motion picture um eddie diesel we said before was in both greece movies and 1941 with the people above dirk blocker from the green team was jeff shaw and poltergeist and right now is probably best known as hitchcock on brooklyn nine-nine one of uh the the two older cops that work in the in the station uh kristen baker who played sunshine will come back as terry in friday the 13th part two and she is also an uncredited jogger in the movie cruisin which we will be reviewing very soon it's a mere two episodes away john fielder who played mr thorpe was of course juror number two and twelve angry men which was his first feature film and he was the voice of piglet paul reubens was pee-wee um max in flight at the navigator he's the host of star tours and uh my favorite performance from him ever was as like the uh gerhart character on 30 rock where he was like this crippled habsburg heir to the throne some inbred uh royal uh but don't forget the spleen that was gonna say mystery men oh yeah that's right great mystery man that's that's worth mentioning but yeah somebody i'm living out well no but because i'm looking at imdb as you're reading these and every time i read it i misread it there the john fielder's wife is played by seal gabo and the the placement of the letters of seal and the word the last name gabo i keep thinking it says gal gadot oh yeah i think i have that problem too and i could say calcutta was in this movie and i was like no okay no i just can't this wasn't even born yet uh what do we think is this one worth watching i say no i say yes i'm gonna also say no right on this one that's fair um it's just got too many cameos for me to say no and too many first appearances um letterboxed uh so i put it uh after simon uh but ahead of to all a good night okay uh for me i have it actually above hero at large but below american gigolo okay on mine i have it uh above simon and below my brilliant career right now it's in third place for the year for me i think that's everything for this one if you have any thoughts you'd like to share we are vintage video pod on twitter facebook instagram and letterbox where as i've said before you can find each of our full movie rankings for the year please consider rating us on itunes to help new people find the show and if you find the time to leave us a review we will thank you personally in an upcoming episode if you're feeling especially generous you can support the show through patreon at patreon.com vintage video podcast thank you so much for listening and i hope you'll join us next time when we will be discussing bob guccione's caligula which wikipedia describes as a 1979 and we're reviewing it because it was released in the united states in 1980 erotic historical drama film focusing on the rise and fall of roman emperor caligula starring malcolm mcdowell theresa ann savoy helen mirren peter o'toole john steiner and john gilgood it is the only feature film produced by men's magazine penthouse we leave you now with the trailer for caligula they spoke of it first in whispers then it took the media by storm i have existed from the morning of the world and i shall exist until the last star falls from the heavens although i have taken the form of caius caligula i am a god bob guccione and penthouse films international present caligula you amateur amateur [Music] the emperor who devoured rome [Music] no rumor can match the reality caligula rated r