we're on a mission from god

wendy so i got that going darling

looks like i picked the wrong way to

quit sniffing blue light

of my life we enjoy your films

i thought they smelled bad on the

outside

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welcome to vintage video where we're

re-watching the 80s so you don't

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film release of the 1980s in real time

i'm patrick o'reilly i'm jesse bayless

and i'm richard wells and today marks

the 40th anniversary of the release of

death ship

on march 7th 1980 it was written by john

robbins based on a story by jack hill

and david p

lewis directed by alvin raykoff or

rakoff

and released by avco embassy pictures

who did the fog

previously and black marble if it comes

out

in time for us to review the film was

scripted by cult director jack hill

and david p lewis but attributed to john

robbins for canadian movie business

reasons

of course another canadian tax shelter

yes

um i i will say that i know we usually

get into the crew stuff later but

sure um when i was looking up what other

things jack hill wrote two years prior

he wrote a movie just called

the bees that sounds amazing and all the

imdb screen grabs are just

amazing and i was like i have to see

this movie

well that reminds me of how i want to

watch from one time ran out the swarm

i have to check that out which is also

about killer bees yeah so that's a swarm

in the bees

double feature that'd be amazing this

imdb trivia point

confused me so maybe you guys can take a

guess as to what it means

the make and model of the derelict

mysterious

black flying dutchman-like death ship

was a

deserted german world war ii freighter

which had once been used

as a kriegsmarine prison ship for

torturing

so is that just talking about the plot

in the movie or was this literally also

a an actual torture ship um

i'm hoping it's the former yeah

because this the trivia piece makes it

sound like oh

not only was it a torture ship in the

movie the make and model was actual

torture ship

which is strange one of their torture

line yeah

like it makes it seem like they had a

line of boats that were

specifically for that purpose it could

be like a poltergeist scenario where

they got real

skeletons because it was just cheaper

it's just cheaper to get a real torture

ship

yeah to get a ship and make it a torture

ship exactly is that a true

fact i know i've heard that trivia about

the

buying the skeletons because they were

cheaper than research skeletons

props yeah or cheaper than props that's

what they say that's what it leads to

the poltergeist curse

well it's also a texas chainsaw massacre

all the bones in that room were

supposedly

actual human bones that they ordered

from the philippines oh

i don't want to yeah no questions asked

they come from the philippines

um this is the first film of saul

rubinick and the last film of sally ann

howes

we start with this empty ship that

suddenly springs into action in the

middle of the ocean somewhere yeah

various

parts of the engine are just whirring

into motion because it's

suddenly realized that there's something

nearby to crash into

yeah and and i'm reasonably sure that

this engine room is not the engine room

of the ship

right because it looks much newer yeah

it looks like they

got an actual old diesel ship

engine room to shoot in yeah i don't

think that the rusty ship they shoot on

for the rest of the film would have been

lubricated enough for

these functions from the beginning it's

really confu it was really confusing for

me because they cut

a car they cut back and forth between

like

inside the ship outside the ship outside

another ship

but i didn't realize that there was more

than one ship going on in the scene i

was like man this stock footage is

really

terrible like they really haven't

matched the ships well because

this ship looks nothing like the other

stock footage of the ship

but i you know i realize now that they

you know it took me a while to realize

i think you had to point it out to me

that there was more than one ship being

footage being cut together here and they

were implying that one ship was

barreling towards the other well there's

a lot of weird editing

where you get quick flashes of stuff

that's going to happen

later yeah so like while we're watching

the ship we keep getting flashes of

the actual cruise ship and then back to

the the

ghost ship and all the establishing

shots of the cruise ship are from really

far away and they're super shaky and

like

sideways so it's like not even clear

that they're trying to introduce a

second ship yet

uh on board the cruise ship uh the

captain

is being called away from the bridge to

go visit a halloween party

yeah and he's pretty upset about it

because he wants to

just be the captain of the ship but he

has to do all this dumb like pr

stuff and interact with all the guests

he wants to be the captain of a real

ship and not a party boat

right and uh he's also this is like his

final trip basically he's about to hand

over the reins to

this other captain that's like a captain

and waiting basically yeah

uh i really was hoping that the

halloween aspect of this would play more

into the movie

yeah like two people would be stuck

wearing like a genie

and gorilla costume for the entire film

or or just like

like it had something to do with the

fact that it was halloween night or

something like that but

rarely it doesn't it's not the like the

fog maybe it did

i don't know well i i think by the end

of the movie we get a different

yeah oh i guess you're right right well

that's for dia de los muertos

so oh it's gearing up

at this halloween party a couple of kids

are arguing about when their bedtime is

supposed to be because they just want to

stay up at the party

a genie and an ape man sneak off to make

out in

one random room of the ship the bridge

notices that there

is another incoming ship on the radar

and when we see this radar footage it's

actually from the 1976 king kong movie

yeah they just flipped it horizontally

but uh when we see a ship

on the radar it's just footage from uh

king kong 1976 and

the captain is called back onto the

bridge he's like

[ __ ] talking all the people at this

party within the earshot of them

because he doesn't like being there and

they're driving him crazy

um and the the first officer and his

wife are like offended to hear him talk

like this in front of everybody

especially his kids yeah the evasive

maneuvers fail

when they're trying to avoid getting hit

by this ship basically the whole thing

goes down really fast

yeah like i i was totally confused as to

what was happening

yeah because you see all these people

all over the ship like reacting to the

impact

but um and i see like you know like this

room filling up with water and

it's like okay well it's gonna like this

is gonna be about them like

on the boat for a while like while it's

going down

and things like that it was like nope

nope next yeah

trying to get so it's gonna be like the

whole second two thirds of titanic

getting to the top of the ship and

no they just straight up cut to a life

raft full of people yeah yeah

but in in the uh ensuing madness like we

see the the bottom of the ship is

getting flooded

this giant piano falls from one deck

down

to a lower deck inside the ship but

that's also a clip from a different film

it's from a 1960 film called the last

voyage so they're just recycling a lot

of footage here yeah i was actually

impressed by that i was too

and then i read the imdb trivia i was

like oh i didn't actually do that

okay when we cut to these people i was

like these people

were in different parts of the ship

right two of them were completely naked

also

yeah and and how did they

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not get anybody else out when they were

all in different locations like

the whole bridge crew didn't make it

yeah and

not anyone a single other person at this

party made it yeah you wonder if there

weren't more scenes for this and they

just weren't happy with the way that the

ship looked sinking so they were just

like you know what let's just cut to

everybody in the lifeboat

because you want something like the

poseidon adventure and it's a similar

situation where this

disaster happens during a party right

but everyone from the party is still

there right they they don't all just die

well they do but but then one at a time

slowly over the course of several acts

most of them die right then because the

the the the ceiling gives away

right and the room starts flooding and

while they're all trying to climb up

onto the christmas tree christmas tree

yeah

but uh but that makes sense like we kind

of get to see it just i i can't imagine

it makes sense

sure i can't imagine just no one else

everybody was at the party yeah it was a

very popular party the only two people

who weren't at the party

were the ape man and the genie but

somehow they made it on the lifeboat

it was a wish yeah

that's dumb but yeah so there's

basically eight survivors um you have

the two kids

uh the new captain and his wife the

parents of the kids professor and

marianne

yeah the band leader somehow made it but

none of the band

the ape and the genie and then a widow

who we were introduced to earlier and

then suddenly

a ninth survivor just rises from the

depths yeah like

we've seen several wide shots of this

raft floating around and there's nobody

on the surface of the water nearby so

this guy was completely submerged for

like

probably multiple minutes before he

comes up here

and it's the captain and they're able to

drag him up into the ship the captain is

being played by george kennedy here

and uh almost as soon as they get him on

board they notice

the ghost ship or the death ship as the

title would have you refer to it

it is technically a ghost ship yeah i

mean i keep i keep every time

i put it in my notes it's ghost ship and

i realize that that's not what the

movie's called

well it might as well be um because it

is about a ghost ship

and uh the poster looks the same as the

poster for ghost

ship yeah and it's the same basic

premise as ghost ship except for

in that one i think they were just

trying to strip it for parts they didn't

lose their

original boat right but there was a

party on that boat too right that's

where everyone gets cut by that cable

yes um i don't remember was that like a

because it's new year's in poseidon

adventure right it's christmas

it's christmas episode they have a

christmas tree but

but you have a christmas tree at the end

of the year

it might have been new years it's been a

while since i've seen that one

but yeah there's another party and a

bunch of people get sliced

real good that's the best scene of ghost

trip so once you pass that you don't

need to watch the rest

that's like the first scene of ghost

ship yep i think we made that point

although we have our podcast yeah it's

the only part that we remember

you don't need to wait for julianna

margolies to show up that movie's over

so uh they start shouting to this empty

boat

um and they think that a platform has

been lowered for them to climb up but it

was on the other side of the ship so it

might have been down this entire time

right

and they go over to it and climb on

board the kid has been holding in

he's had to go pee since before their

ship sank and so now he decides he's

just going to pee

on the deck of the ship instead of off

of it into the water

and his sister's like what are you doing

like all upset with him

because he just runs off right this kid

well these kids run off a lot

yeah but he wanted privacy to pee i get

that but go to the side of the ship

like on the other side and then pee off

into the water just like stand on the

deck and pee

on the deck but the last three people

out of the boat are

the other two adult men carrying the

captain who is basically incapacitated

but as they're going up the stairs they

collapse off the side of the ship and

everybody falls back into the water

the girl that was wearing a genie

costume before runs

to toss like a rope ladder down for them

and apparently even though he couldn't

like he had to be carried up the stairs

but he can climb a rope ladder to get

back on yeah

then the ship stuff starts dumping oil

yeah i couldn't tell what that was if it

was like

literally sewage or something they're

trying to climb up the ladder and the

ladder is just hanging down over this

pipe that's just

dumping this black brown sludge in their

faces

suddenly ropes from above the deck like

form a little slip knot

and snag the band leader yeah jackie

yeah and they basically take him it

drags him over the side of the ship

and then dips him in the water upside

down so like he can't

he can't breathe it's like it's

waterboarding him basically yeah he he

he's just underneath the water enough

where he can't

be buoyant so he can he can't pull his

head up out of the way right

yeah um and then the ship starts running

while it's got him over the side of the

the boat and then it pulls him

really really high up as as high as the

crane will go on the top of the ship

and then just drops him into the water

which he survives

right he survives that but then is he

sucked into the engines or is he just

drowning because she's going

full full speed i think that the waves

just suck him under

yeah yeah but it would have been a great

thing just to see like

blood coming from the wake or something

like some kind of i was like oh i was

like he's not dead

i was like he was gonna he's gonna like

grab something or

at this point i was convinced that

falling into the water was the safest

you could be

because at least there's still a raft

out there yeah like you can swim to that

it might take you a while because the

ship started moving but

but yeah i it's kind of implied that

he's already dead here which is the end

of our uh

the appearance of saul rubinic in this

movie he's done for

um so now we're down to eight survivors

sorry i'm laughing at my note they look

around the ship but it's abandoned

and old yeah it's also for some reason

crowded with spider webs which i was

like

would there be spiders on this ship if

it's out in the middle of the ocean

like what would what are they subsisting

off of

each other but then what do they do

like they just eat the spider poop and

then they they breed more baby spiders

and eat those spiders

i guess there is some food on this boat

but we find it much later in the film

there might be bugs in the middle of the

ocean i've never really hung out there

are there bugs in the middle of the

ocean

richard you're the man to ask my ears at

sea

i mean birds fly long distances over

water there's got to be something i

guess they eat the fish

maybe the maybe the uh spiders are

fishing

that would be cool spiderweb i guarantee

you there's video of a spider fishing

somewhere on

on youtube um there's that one so we're

gonna find a picture of it put it up on

the instagram

well there is that one that builds nets

in its arms and holds it there and wait

for bugs to crawl underneath and it

drops down and

catches them in this net that sounds a

lot like what they did to the band

leader

maybe spiders are running this show um

on the above deck uh random disembodied

voices

are speaking to the captain in in german

which is already scary just disembodied

german voices

are frightening to me maybe that's just

my own personal racism

um we get we get a line from one of the

kids it's like mommy i'm frightened

yeah i was like i don't know if like a

little kid would be saying frightened

that's what it says on the page a hook

bashes one of the guys on the in the

back of the head but apparently doesn't

kill him but it knocks him through

a bunch of like wood stuff and what's

crazy is when he finally stumbles back

to everybody

like he doesn't tell anyone by the way i

have a serious head injury

yeah don't let me go to sleep by the way

i'm gonna go to sleep

i'm real tired it's been a day they uh

they decide that they're going to

continue to explore the ship since they

can't find anyone

but they will all be safe as long as

they stay together

so then everyone splits up um

the kid tries to drink like straight up

black water yeah

like he turns on a faucet

like the same sewage that was dumping

over the side of the ship before

and he just pours it into a glass and

brings it up to his lips and the lady

has to slap it out of his hands like

no no darling don't drink that what are

you doing you idiot

we have to boil this also you should be

able to see through it

water's not supposed to be opaque uh the

genie lady

whose name i'm forgetting laurie is the

character's name

uh she finds the source of some music

which is a record player in like this

music room

and she turns it off and walks away and

it starts playing again

and suddenly all the doors on the ship

are like shutting and locking magically

which is very house on haunted hilly

yeah there's a lot of um uh i call it

the like the flea

circus the john hammond flea circus kind

of effect where sure things are just

moving but very awkwardly because it's

obviously like being pulled by little

strings or little mechanics

so so it just doesn't seem to have any

kind of natural movement

yeah but they want it to seem like oh

it's just a coincidence that all these

doors close like

you don't know for sure that it was

ghosts because

maybe they just maybe the door's just

closed and locked

um but the record player just keeps

restarting the music over and over

they find a small like movie theater on

the ship

which is it's playing this 1936 film

called everything is rhythm

which has some pretty neat visual

effects in it yeah like all these comps

of like a tiny man dancing on a piano

while it's being played

the widow uh waiting in like the

the hospital area of the ship decides

that she's going to take some medicine

or something no i don't think it's

medicine i think they're peppermints

they're little candies oh okay

well whatever it is it doesn't sit well

with her

she um she tries to watch the movie and

then her face falls apart

it gets all bubbly and gray yeah

um she looks like very zombified and she

tries to move around the ship

but she's got the grayscale yes exactly

but there's no jorah here or jorah's the

one who had it what's

what's the guy that sam that fixed it

but uh

she collapses in front of the captain

begging for his help and then

in a vision he sees like a nazi sailor

in front of him yeah he strangles to

death with both hands

the implication being that he's killing

this woman which is probably

for her own benefit yeah uh

while this is going on marshall and nick

are kind of wandering around the ship

and they find

the the chart room which says like all

the charts drawn in circles

yeah um and in the engine room all the

the engines are running but all the

gauges

read zero right so there's no visual

proof that the ship is even moving

yeah well and there's no fuel in any of

the tanks it's very so

they're like why how are we moving when

they come back to

the room where the captain strangled the

widow he says that she had a seizure and

passed out

and then they proceeded to bury her at

sea the woman was mrs morgan

and uh he reads from like a book of

prayers

yeah german the german bible yeah

suddenly the captain is

basically straight up possessed by nazi

ghosts

yeah and challenges marshall the the new

captain

to pilot the ship they're they're

standing by the wheel

and he's like you try and do it and he

tries to move the wheel and it won't

move at all

and he's like yeah it's i could do this

it's no problem

he does it with like two fingers just

kind of barely touches it

because i'm a real captain and you're

not right he's also now donned

the german captain uniform which fits in

perfectly

yes the genie and the ape man get a room

they decide that they're going to start

making out again

so they go find a room the captain is

hallucinating or psychically

visualizing something that might may

happen later

of lori completely covered in blood

and the ape-man guy just kind of

freaking out on the floor like he's on

a bunch of drugs and panicking uh the

kids

are looking for a bathroom again because

this little kid constantly needs to pee

yeah because he can't help but drink all

the water that he

of finds dark it is he's got a bladder

the size of a hummingbird

yes or a hummingbird's bladder yeah

that's better

that's actually better it's in the shape

of a hummingbird weirdly

it's really sharp on one side lori

decides she's gonna take a shower

but as soon as she gets into the stall

the shower door locks

and the faucet turns on and it's just

spraying blood all over here yeah

uh this is my favorite imdb trivia yeah

i made a note of it too

uh for for whatever reason someone

thought that it was necessary to put

the blood in the shower was fake the

breasts are real

yes that was my first question when this

was happening i was like i don't know

about the blood

but i'm sure they used real blood right

i'm gonna have to look it up but i think

it's funny because in that scene

she actually shouts it's blood it's

blood like it's

so you would just assume it's rusty

water if you were in it i guess i guess

but she has to shout it out so that we

all understand that it's blood

right well blood has a very specific

smell

i was gonna say taste

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but that's how kubrick got away with the

bloody elevators in the

shining trailer was that he was like oh

no it's just rusty water and they were

like oh okay that's fine

it's not it's blood it was a horse

uh nick is trying to get her out but

can't and so he

he decides to leave her bye he goes

laurie

don't give up that's encouraging at

least

i was sure this scene was going to end

with her just drowning right

totally because it gets to the point

where it's like three or four inches

deep and i was like is this literally

just gonna bleed on her until she drowns

in blood

that would be amazing that would be

perfect then they open the door and her

body just spills out into the room

but that's not what happens i'm pretty

happy with what happens

instead though the

the girl of the two children wanders

into the radio room

and everything is blaring german music

at the same time

as lori is like spinning and getting

covered in blood in the shower and

freaking out

the captain finds both of the kids and

takes them to their father

but he looks really creepy while he's

walking them back and he's just like

basically shoves them down the hall

towards their dad the ape man comes down

and he says

oh we got to get up to lori she needs

help and he tells marshall like you got

you got to help me i can't get the door

open

so they turn around to leave but when

they come back the captain's already got

her body out of the shower stall and

she's still covered in blood and he's

just

carrying her naked body and he walks to

the edge of the ship and goes

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and just throws her overboard which

is just like totally ridiculous we had

to look it up too because i was like

it's like is it commander i feel like

you should have said could we

condemn or well i guess condemn was not

good but then we

we googled it and literally i got as far

as we we commend

and the first response was like his soul

to the deep and i was like okay so

that's just a

that's an actual prayer that people say

when you throw we recommend his soul

for the deep we put it to you you judges

so he throws her bloody body overboard

and hits sal rubinick yeah because this

boat is not actually moving

marshall and nick uh find the swastika

room

with all the hitler paintings which they

like kept in one specific

i like how they concentrated it all in

one place

the nazis were good at concentrating yes

then they move into like the next room

down this

terrible passageway um and it's like a

dentist's office kind of

but like a reverse dentist where instead

of putting gold teeth in your mouth they

take them out

and fill a drawer with them so

they just find this and it's pretty

obvious

the second you pull the drawer out like

oh what is this oh it's a bunch of uh

human teeth

that have gold crowns but the guy still

grabs like a handful of them and he's

like

what are these and then when the guy

says uh their teeth and he's like oh my

god and he drops them back into the

drawer

it's like why did you touch them clearly

teeth they pull out the next drawer over

and it's full of watches

just gold watches um and then they move

into the next room which is full of a

bunch of

tortured skeletons yeah oh my god one of

them is like

a guy that literally just got left in

this bucket of water like up to his face

so it's a skeleton now obviously but

it's been soaking in this water so much

that all the flesh probably just washed

off of it

there's another person who's like bent

over backwards with the top half of his

head underwater yeah it's like one of

those drinking birds like he keeps

coming back up and then

he's exactly like one of those drinking

birds

oh my god would be the sickest office

decoration

but yeah there's just corpses all over

this room and they're all screaming

yes um they moved back to the movie room

where it's now just playing like a bunch

of hitler speeches and nazi propaganda

and marshall is trying to rip the

projector off of the stand that it's on

and nick runs over nick is the ape man

he runs over and he tries to pull down

the screen that it's projecting on

but every time he pulls down one screen

there's another screen behind it yeah

you could get through like three or four

of them

it was actually pretty like upsetting

this whole scene is really upset yeah

because

even though we see marshall like ripping

the projector back and forth and just

wrenching it free from the stand the

picture isn't moving off of the wall at

all

and then he he's standing and projecting

on him and you see him wanting to like

almost rip himself apart yeah he starts

digging at his chest and oh by the way

he's bare-chested

like but no shirt for like the rest of

this movie yeah he's just running around

without a shirt on

nick lunges forward at what is i guess a

vision of the captain

and basically like suddenly he's on on

the deck of the ship

he's not in the theater room anymore and

he's jumping to it to

tackle the captain but he ends up

falling into this pit that's full of

bodies that was on the that was on the

deck of the ship that they just didn't

notice before

and uh the captain like pulls up

a net around him and squeezes him in

with all these corpses

and this drops him back into the water

yeah marshall the

krennic character richard krenna hears

the captain

asking for the blood of his wife and

children he says that he's going to give

their blood to the ship because the ship

needs blood

the ship needs blood marshall marshall

basically stabs the captain to death

in the dining room very suddenly yeah

it's like finally

yeah take some initiative it's weird

that no one's

like even like just tied him to a chair

this whole time he's been just

wandering around the ship killing people

but then he rushes

uh his family into a freezer that's

basically full of soldiers

yeah and i couldn't tell are these the

crew

of the ship the former crew or more

prisoners

i don't know like because they all had

like some of them had life preservers on

someone had like aviation

goggles on maybe they were about to

abandon the ship and he killed a bunch

of people or something

like the crazy captain but either way he

he

they get all the way up to the door of

this freezer and then he sees what's

inside and he's like oh keep the kids

out here

we can't go in here but he goes in and

he grabs all the

supplies that he needs to build a raft

from inside this freezer

um and then he runs back to the deck

and he drops the anchor of a clearly not

moving boat

and suddenly the captain who he didn't

stab to death apparently he just stabbed

multiple times

yeah is firing a gun at them the mom

basically throws the kids overboard

it was very like drastic the way she

does it because you think like oh she's

gonna like talk them down slowly and

she's like

well as soon as they're wearing a life

jacket and they're on the side of the

ship she just shoves them in the back

till they fall off into the water

um yeah it's a it's a chip full of nazi

ghosts i think she has every right to

give them off as quickly as possible

i know i just feel like i might have

been slightly more gentle

but um maybe not maybe i'd have been

even meaner

find lori's corpse you can use it as a

light put this vest on when you get in

the water

later um the captain

is back and grabs the mother before

everyone can get off of the boat

and uh marshall basically jumps the

captain

he's shooting at them he gets like

knocked around

and now he's freaking out because like

the ghost crew is not obeying his

commands

right so when he goes down to the engine

room to start like

like yelling at his crew and shooting

his gun like he's like

firing warning shots at them that's when

he falls off

and gets caught in the in the gear work

and it's a pretty like

gruesome thing man george kennedy has

like a good

like sense of humor or not sense of

humor but like he gets what

they're doing yeah and like so he's

leaning into it really good

but it's it's a very slow grinding of

his hand through this gear

but they they get off the ship

essentially yeah they all get off the

ship he gets ground up in the gears

they get spotted by a helicopter a ghost

helicopter no

oh yeah it's the ghost guard

that's good but yeah they uh they leave

with the helicopter and then we

get the implication from inside the ship

that it's all sputtering to life again

because it's planning on ramming another

boat

and they use the same footage again yes

the same footage that they used

excessively at the beginning i swear to

god if you cut out all of the uh

replay footage yeah the repeat footage

and like the crappy found footage that

they

used of boats this movie would be a good

15 minutes shorter

yeah and it's already like an hour and a

half long and it moves really quickly

i mean the the cruise ship is sunk

already in the first like 10 or 15

minutes of the movie

so the director alvin rakoff

uh this was his second to last feature

before dirty tricks

in 1981 the writer john robbins not a

lot

on his imdb page yeah probably because

he wasn't the actual writer of the film

and that was just a fake

credit uh story by credit was given to

jack hill and david p lewis as a

consolation prize for having actually

written the script

jack hill this was his last credit uh he

worked a lot with roger corman on stuff

he wrote spider baby and a couple

classic black playtation films coffee

and and foxy brown

david p lewis uh wrote on the tv series

planet of the apes which might be where

he got the mask

yeah um and he also wrote on columbo

um the captain who goes crazy was george

kennedy

as captain ashland yeah a legend yes

i think for me he's always been uh ed

hawking from the naked gun movies

yeah but uh i recognized him more from

cool hand luke

he was dragged and i also recently

watched

charade and he was one of like the sort

of

bumbling oafs that are going after uh

audrey hepburn yeah in that movie

yeah he's in the airport movies yes uh

he he's just a well-known character

actor so he just you know he does tv

uh did tv sorry uh but yeah he he

was in everything uh uh i also remember

he was the voice of

the head of the studio and cats don't

dance i don't know cats don't

no you don't know scott bakula uh about

animals it's

it's about race in hollywood but it's

done with animals

so like yeah yeah but but there are

human actors

too but good no actually i don't know i

haven't seen it castle dance is

wonderful

richard krenna was trevor marshall the

uh captain in waiting

i think he's probably best known as

colonel troutman from the rambo movies

um and he basically came back to play

the same character

in hot shots part due which is amazing

i mean he has a different name he's

colonel walters but he's playing

a parody of himself in the rambo movies

yeah but he's also playing

his name is is denton walters but he

played a character named walter denton

in a show called i think aramis brooks

way back in the day

uh because he's an old actor obviously

right yeah uh because he was on the real

mccoys which is like his big

the big show that he was on yeah um but

one of his last roles he did

is i don't know i wouldn't i would never

call it probably one of his great roles

but i would say was the role he was born

to play

where he plays ronald reagan in the

movie the day reagan was shot right

directed by our friends yeah

and uh but i was like yeah because he

looks exactly like ronald reagan yeah

he was also most likely the inspiration

for powers booth's

uh colonel jim faith in the gruber movie

but yeah he's he's great i've always

liked him and stuff and uh

nick mancuso plays nick he used his real

name the ape man

he played tom breaker in both of the

under siege movies

yeah i i don't i mean

i don't know much about under siege one

under siege two i know that's the one on

the train right under sieges of the

submarine and

yeah so so he must have been someone on

the ship because i seriously doubt he

was in both

because they cut to a scene in the ship

i thought he would have been one of

seagal's handlers

in order to have made it from the first

film to the second round exactly yeah

but i don't think he has as much play

right in the second one sally ann hawes

was uh margaret marshall the widow

she played truly scrumptious in chitty

chitty bang bang

this was her last film we said before

she was also fiona mclaren and brigadoon

yeah but uh shitty bang bang i think

it's important to mention that

uh it it's a favorite of of ours because

of

james bond right as far as ian fleming's

book

that roald dahl wrote the screenplay for

yes and

the heat which they worked together

previously uh this is the second one

right uh you only live twice you only

live twice yeah which was an ian fleming

book that rolled doll also yes adapted

so i just think it's funny

it was imagining ian fleming and roll

doll like hanging out together

yeah and one is like clearly like a

kid's family movie and the other one

it feel it feels like chitty chitty bang

bang is ian fleming trying to write a

roll doll

book yeah so he says let me show you how

it's done

kate reed was sylvia um that is the the

wife

of uh the captain in waiting she was dr

ruth leave it in the andromeda strain

she was grace in atlantic city and linda

loman

in the uh dustin hoffman version of

death as a salesman which

she got a golden globe nomination for

laurie

was actress victoria bergoin

and she plays sabine in a movie called

ghosts can't do it

have you seen that trailer before no oh

man we well we had to watch the trailer

for that yeah i had to stop the movie to

show jessica because she watched this

trailer she hadn't heard of it

you know what i'm gonna pull it up right

now

[Laughter]

because the ghosts can't do a trailer is

magical

i have a computer right here you know i

can just go ahead google it ghosts can't

do it

it's got bo derrick and when you think

of the title

ghosts can't do it it is exactly what

you think there's

[Music]

just want you to

remember all the good times that's every

single second

but there's one small problem you think

you're having a heart attack

i'm not people i'm just oh god anthony

quinn no

yeah bonos ghosts can't do it

starring hollywood's ultimate 10 bo

derek and two-time oscar winner

anthony quinn

[Music]

it's an unconventional love story

that shows bull knows amorous

and bo knows adventure

[Music]

and bo knows how to get

your it you know you have a nice head of

hair

it would be nice to have that again i

prefer you possessed it

bo derek and anthony quinn in

ghosts can't do it

now available on video cassette i think

that trailer is so ridiculous because it

they they use keep using the phrase

bow knows and it's like you can't just

use the name of your actor

in your slogan for your movie when

that's not the nature of your character

well yeah i mean it's it's a parody of

the bo jackson commercials where they

were like

bo knows basketball bonus baseball bonus

football but it's like

you're right it doesn't make any sense

when you're in a trailer

using the actor's name instead of the

character's name yeah and it's also like

they keep doing it for the whole

they do it like 12 times and the premise

feels like a stuart raffle movie

it's basically just tammy and the t-rex

yeah

but with like it's just tammy and the

random guy

like instead of putting the brain in a

robotic t-rex they put it in some random

swimmer guy they found

but uh yeah that's a ridiculous movie

that i can't believe exists

and poor anthony quinn yeah um he must

have needed the money

saul rubinick we mentioned before with

jackie the band leader

who got waterboarded briefly any number

of character parts that he's played

over the last couple of decades i think

my favorite though is

lee donowicz in uh true romance yeah

where he's basically playing the son of

the inglorious bastard donny donowicz

from inglorious bastards played by eli

roth

but he was also the frenchman in the

buster scruggs

carriage segment do you remember that

one yeah yeah yeah uh

that that was one of the better ones to

me yeah i i still really like steven

root and the pan shot

that was that one's good too they're all

pretty good but uh yeah it's not

rubberneck i mean he's been he's been in

tv shows he's been in movies

he also played victor dubanic in three

episodes of leverage

what season i don't know what

i i mentioned that because jess worked

on leverage for some of it what you were

four and five

yeah that's towards the end yeah so the

uh

part of the strangled sailor okay

it didn't catch that credit uh was

andrew

semple uh this is his last name

and it was like simple uh

i so i started like because i look up

everybody just to see yeah um and i was

like oh oh this guy's still

still very very active um he is

an art department person worked he

worked on uh

mostly as like painters prop sculptors

and plasters and different i guess

i'm assuming he's when he's everywhere

says plaster i'm assuming he's making

some kind of mock-up

but like some of these credits like uh

millennium which is

a great the tv show no no the movie oh

okay it was great

uh let's see like the new version of

like rollerball

uh some of all fears timeline day after

tomorrow

uh tron legacy nice uh and so i was like

oh yeah this guy is really busy

um it's really odd that he played

strangled

sailor in yeah death ship well it saw

rubinick's barely in it too and i would

say he's like

at least working now one of the biggest

names in this thing yeah

so i just thought it was fun that that

he's still very active but not so much

in the acting he's just

building props yeah a lot of people move

behind the camera

um what do you think jess up or down on

this one

uh i don't think it's a must-watch but i

i i think it's enjoyable if you like

campy horror films okay what does that

mean

well it's okay so overall it's down i'm

not okay i'm not going to recommend

my you know average friends go

watch this but it but if if campy horror

film type things is your thing

then you should okay richard yeah i'm

gonna have to give it a down too

i i i i felt really nothing for this

movie yeah i didn't have any like

appreciation for the camp or anything i

did i like i like people in it

and that's about it i have to give it a

down too because

it doesn't really get started until the

last third um

in terms of like what i wanted this

whole movie to be

like the the ship sinking right away is

good they they get

on board this this death ship very

quickly but then nothing gruesome

happens

until the blood shower and then it gets

completely insane from there

but i would have liked for it to be

crazier longer

but yeah i would say this is probably

not not necessary viewing

um letterboxed what are we doing here

richard

uh i'm gonna put this uh just below to

all good night

just below to all a good night okay

what's that above

fatso uh i'm i'm

close to that in in my positioning of it

uh

i have it above to all a good night but

below windows

okay um i'm also going to put it below

windows but above to all a good night

so it seems like we all have a very

similar opinion of this movie

i think uh it's just slightly better

than to all a good night

yeah because it has more gruesome

weirdness to it um but yeah i think

that's fair

i think it also had more of a story to

it like

just the whole i wasn't expecting the

whole

nazi ghost thing to happen that was

unexpected in the in the latter half of

the movie and

i thought that was interesting yeah i

think that's everything for this one

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when we'll be discussing a small circle

of friends that's the name of a movie

we won't be discussing a small circle of

friends will be discussing

a small circle of friends which imdb

describes as

harvard in the 1960s a time of social

upheaval

and student unrest three students bond

together challenge the system

and begin to lose their ideals we leave

you now at the trailer for a small

circle of friends

[Music]

they were the children of the 60s living

in an age of

sexual revolution fighting for a

political revolution

[Applause]

i don't want to die in the dmz i don't

even know where it is

they shared their laughter their love

and the vision of a generation three

lives brought together by a moment in

history karen allen

jameson parker and brad davis a small

circle of friends