we're on a mission from god wendy so i got that going darling looks like i picked the wrong way to quit sniffing blue light of my life we enjoy your films i thought they smelled bad on the outside [Music] welcome to vintage video where we're re-watching the 80s so you don't have to we'll be reviewing every major film release of the 1980s in real time i'm patrick o'reilly i'm jesse bayless and i'm richard wells and today marks the 40th anniversary of the release of monster or humanoids from the deep on may 16 1980 it was written by william martin credited as frederick james based on a story by frank arnold and martin b cohen directed by barbara peters with uncredited direction from jimmy t murakami and released by new world pictures which had just released the private eyes and was run at the time by roger corman i apologize in advance for the sexiness of my voice today getting over something joe dante was corman's first pick to direct but he was not interested in the story yeah this and that's too bad i mean because it's it's but this is post piranha though yeah it's post piranha so i guess you like but uh he would go on to work with rob boutin later right but i think it would have it would have been too much retreading of something he had just done yeah the working title was beneath the darkness because corman wanted to trick bigger names into attaching themselves to a classier-sounding script after seeing a cut corman demanded that additional scenes with violence and nudity be added when peters refused to shoot extra scenes corman reached out to murakami director of battle beyond the stars to shoot the scenes uncredited it's unclear which version we saw because according to one imdb trivia point the reshot humanoid attack scenes were struck from the final print right it seemed like they were in this one yeah there were definitely definitely scenes that seemed out of place or just more rapey yes that don't like rapey they don't necessarily like cut cleanly into the film like it just felt like they definitely felt added later turkle and peters took efforts to have their names removed from the film but they were refused uh this was the second feature film score for composer james horner yeah after jon sails the lady in red in 79 and he will be back later this year for battle beyond the stars with murakami uh horner wrote the score for this film in two weeks obviously horner quickly rose to the top of his profession and worked pretty consistently on massive budget temple stuff right up until his untimely death in 2015 when he crashed his private plane in los padres national forest shortly after taking off from camarillo airport right down the street more hints as to where we live stop telling people where we live we'll talk more about his composer credits after we cover the film uh the budget for this was two and a half million dollars the monster costumes were the work of ghost blake himself rob boutin uh what we watched was the shout factory 30th anniversary blu-ray with the on-screen title monster and very very small text that read humanoids from yeah it's like we don't want to be associated with this title but legally we're obliged right i feel like there's no way you'd be able to read those letters on a dvd this had to be the blu-ray which i think makes this the european version because that's what the shop factory release was but also wouldn't it be monsters i i just think it's weird that it's called monster like singular because there is more than one yeah spoiler alert that is odd i didn't even think about that uh a remake was produced for showtime in 1996 starring robert carradine emma sams and clint howard robert carradine will show up again in our next film yeah a sequel was planned and set to be released in 1991 by producer mennoham golan of golden globus but the project never fully materialized sadly what is it about this film that everyone wants to keep remaking um that's a silly question richard i'm not sure if you watched it uh the film was also the debut feature of comedian ventriloquist david strassman yeah but yeah we start with uh the word monster appearing over the beach with humanoids from the deep underneath it and we get random shots of this seaside town as people are working on the docks and a bunch of guys are chatting near their ships until johnny eagle shows up and hank slattery hits him with a you people right away and progress means money see you and your people you don't understand that hank slattery is this you don't understand he's from the you indian tribe and so it's actually oh that was very respectful the you people oh that's actually nice no that's not the case hank slattery is the vic morrow character he'll be kind of a bully throughout the film and uh johnny eagle here is actually a mexican-american actor playing a native american which i think was done a lot yeah but there were also plenty of working native american actors all of them wanting to be in monster humanoids from the deep i'm sure yeah of course i want to be in this movie they have these weird back and forths where vic says something to antagonize him uh the hank character says something to antagonize johnny and he says yeah that's what custer said yeah hey well we lost the battle but we won the war like we sure killed all your people it was also very confusing because there's appears to be more than one character named hank oh really um so vic morrow is credited as hank slattery yeah but the the they keep calling the sheriff hank oh interesting and and i was like who's hank why they keep yelling hanks like you can't have a few characters with the same name don't do that it's like no this is based on a true story they can't just change the names of willy-nilly to protect me yeah some of the fishermen head out n not the main character jim or hank but a third set of people um head out to captain something set of people yes let's say that uh they catch something very big in their net right away but it turns out that uh the kid on the boat forgot to refuel the motor to reel it in and they decide that they're going to try and drag it with the boat until it wears out well first they have the kid i want to go on a record here i believe the kid is equally responsible for the deaths of these people yes yeah for multiple reasons so he doesn't fill the winch which forces them to pull it in by hand but while he's attempting to put fuel in the winch he knocks over the gas can and just leaves it yeah so it's just pouring gas all over the deck of the ship yeah and the pump is also out so they can't they can't pull the catch in because they're yeah the engine is not working yeah and the kid falls overboard because his dad keeps saying no get further over the edge son further further and further until the kid falls off you're in too far yeah and then you just like you get the standard monster movie eruption of blood from the surface of the water and the other guy on the ship is keeping this dad from diving in after his son but he saves his life for a grand total of three seconds yeah when a guy comes running out with a flare gun and he just launches it into the deck yeah he just fires it at the puddle of gas on the ship and the whole thing just explodes in a hellacious ball of fire jim sees it from his boat and he's watching through binoculars and he says i don't see anyone in the water so uh i guess we call uh call the authorities yeah but i'm not expecting any survivors here the cops speak with jim at his home about the explosion and seem to already be blaming johnny eagle for this yeah or or they're blaming somebody they're very quick to like yeah they suspect foul play immediately well there was gasoline all over the deck of this boat yeah right but i first of all i doubt they know that right now because that that boat probably sank and they haven't even gotten it out of the water i would bet and then secondly like unless there's like a motive in play i don't know why they would just go well it's got to be the native american guy in town right but uh the only one who's against the cannery like that that's the big plot point of this movie is that they're building it going to build a cannery which hanco is going to build a cannery so and they're upset about that it's going to cause there to be even less fish it's like is that how cannery works is like do they just i thought they just provide the packaging yeah do they do they take all the fish in the area well i think the the anticipation is that they're going to fish more to supply the cannery and then there will be less for everyone i just keep picturing the the mr burns omni net coming from the birds like slurry factory yeah but they seem to be having some sort of ecological problem with the number of fish in the town anyways because yeah they keep complaining that they're not getting fish right and later i think he pulls up one when he wasn't trying to yeah and we're supposed to assume that the reason the fish are not around is because of these creatures right right i think so jim's dog is barking a lot while the cops are there and so he just lets it outside to chase whatever it's barking about yeah that's that's a smart thing to do with yourself we've seen multiple dogs already in this movie just wandering in the street yeah so it seems like this town is very laissez faire with their their dog rules but uh the dog wanders off and is attacked by something and we just see the attack in pov the next day jim and his wife uh wander the beach to try and find it because the dog didn't come home all night and they find its mangled corpse just tied up in a bunch of seaweed on the beach yeah so this was the first indication to me that this was rob boutin's work right because i was like man that looks like right out of the thing yep like the magel dog corpse and so i had to look it up it's like yeah there it is yeah that's as well he got the practice from it so the next day all the dogs are dead except for johnny's for some reason are the monsters framing johnny eagle for this they are very upset i don't know what the it doesn't seem like they'd have to work very hard to frame him they're already after this guy for the boat murder or maybe the point is just that he's the only responsible dog owner and he just kept it in all night but either way everyone's dog is dead except for johnny's and uh hank slattery takes notice of this a woman in lingerie hears a noise outside of her home and she wanders around the house making random sounds and scaring herself yeah this really bothered me she's literally getting ready for bed or something or somebody's coming over whatever is happening she's doing it in front of a glass door like a a wide open glass pane of door and it's like brightly lit inside and it's like who changes into lingerie in front of a glass door but she is changing into lingerie yeah and when she answers the phone later she was fully expecting someone to come over yeah she's like oh yeah i'm ready whenever you were gonna come over i don't know what time and it's like what what are they implying about the relationship between her and linda who is coming over there but isn't this jim's wife no no no no no it's just a difference the house looks similar but then a guy does come over right who is her presumably boyfriend or whatever and he's like oh linda and i forget the guy's name lyndon tom are coming over yes that's it but i just think that's weird it's like you're putting on lingerie when your friend tom and linda and your boyfriend are coming over to have a lovely evening together yeah yeah there's a lot of throwaway like names that i can't remember whose faces they go to like peggy denise linda i was like okay i know i think all of these girls die but uh but peggy it's unclear yeah yeah um but it's uh i can't keep everyone straight so i don't remember who this is the big crazy thing that happened to me in this scene is when she's walking through her house yes and a dress falls off a hanger but it makes a knife unsheathing oh yeah yes or like a sword it doesn't make any sense at all and she she keeps scaring herself and it's no fault of the monsters because she like leans on a door and it squeaks or this metal shirt falls off of a hanger or like she bumps the plates in the sink and like they all rattle and she keeps freaking herself out but the monster's not doing any of this she's just freaking herself out in her house but yeah we both looked at each other like what was that shirt made out of but the phone rings and linda's headed over um the score here while she's wandering around her house sounds a lot like house of cards to me but i looked it up and it's not it's not a horner score that's jeff beale for that show so he stole it from this is what i'm saying um then the guy surprises her and she almost stabs him with like this big fork that she picked up in the kitchen while she was freaking herself out everyone in town is arriving in an old-fashioned dance yeah and a hoot nanny a hooten nanny there you go uh a couple is flirting in the parking lot and the mayor stands up in front of everyone and introduces some camco executives and uh their resident scientist dr susan drake who who couldn't look less excited to be there yeah uh they are opening a cannery and promise that uh in spite of everyone's fears that they will actually be providing bigger faster and twice as plentiful fish in the area the couple outside have now started having sex in a car johnny enters the dance carrying his dog which is dead presumably at hank slattery's hands oh i thought it implied that the monster finally got around to killing it no i think hank killed it uh as revenge for him killing everyone else's dogs oh and a fight ensues and ends up spilling out into the parking lot uh the cop in town fires a gun in the air to break the fight up eventually yes like he he lets it go on for a long time yeah and with the when the two people start having sex and the cards played off like oh these ones are going to get killed by a monster while no they're still in the car having sex when there's a fight going on and yeah people are bumping into the car it's like shaking while they're having sex well and then he opens up the back of the the windscreen uh and get gets punched back into the car like in a slap sticky moment yeah the the sheriff here or the the cop the main cop character that we keep seeing he looks like a cross between clancy brown and jim varney to me um uh yeah i i was trying to figure out who he reminded me of but uh it would be neither uh but uh he a lot of the people reading the lines are kind of like all over the place with their either being really too flat or really too attempting to be invested in it yeah uh but he was pretty much always just out of it it seemed yeah the next day we see hank taking his boat downstream to spy on johnny eagle um just like as a preventative measure i guess he just occasionally spies on people who he hates in case they're planning on suing him like this one is but johnny eagle is going to sue the cannery because his people have been granted fishing rights by a bunch of government contracts and they're not being upheld what the government's not honoring an indian treaty that's crazy what are the chances he seems to be the only one left of his people is that does that seem to be the case yeah he's like the the native american in nothing personal or he's just like everybody else got massacred and he's like i just want a fish can i just fish a girl and another couple sit down on a beach and uh the couple starts making out and then eventually they get up and walk away well because they're just being totally gawked at well that's their friend though right third wheel man seems like they're there together yeah but you don't invite your friend if you don't want your friend to watch but they clearly didn't want their friend to watch because the moment they saw she was watching they're all let's get out of here i guess maybe they didn't know the rules but they walked past this big like godzilla footprint in the sand yeah um but it's just by itself like yeah just just one singular because apparently jesus carried it the rest of the way we're cutting back and forth from the beach to uh the ship where uh jim and his brother and another old man yeah and the doctor are going out to investigate the waters um yeah the the adr for this scene is really bizarre right but the the old man is trying to catch a fish and he's like it's mine i got one and he's freaking out and uh jim uh mr borden is the older man's name and mr borden uh is trying to reel in this big catch but he can't pull it in and he's like it's a monster just because it's really big and as a reference to the title and then the wannabe mark hamill character is like coaching him on how to fish even though he's like 40 years younger than him and they live in a fishing town together yeah and he gets like a little too i guess familiar he calls him by his first name and then he corrects himself yeah i was like i don't i don't think that that's probably a big deal unless you're trying to hide that you guys are having some kind of relationship yeah but this is jim's brother the the mark hamill looking kid right right and the doctor leans over the edge of the boat and starts taking a bunch of pictures of the water and then when she comes back jim's like oh would you get some pictures of him she's like i don't know i this isn't a digital camera those don't exist yet so i'll tell you later what i got pictures of i have no idea like i was just taking pictures of the ocean i was waiting for this to come back and it never does it's not like they developed it and they're like oh my god there's something out there yeah well because she's in on it yeah well sort of but she also doesn't know what she got a picture of because you see the the camera's pointed at the water at the same time as she's taking the pictures i i feel i feel at this point i was even kind of like she's completely aware of what she of what's going on yeah i mean i got that impression right from the get-go when she's getting introduced at the dance that it's like all three of these people are supposed to be the bad people that are ruining the town we cut back to the couple on the beach they have now romped into the water and are roughhousing jerry the man here is killed and then he surfaces with like a half-eaten face yeah that was pretty crazy yeah the makeup is great and the girl starts freaking out and then she gets dragged down the beach and then stripped and then raped which i think is all part of the murakami extra footage of people getting stripped and raped over the course of this film the other girl that was by herself linda just leaves the beach she's like all right i guess i'm going to go home now like someone calls to her from the top of the cliff and she's like i'm not gonna wait for my friends to come back yeah i'm sure they're probably fine yeah hank tells the boys the bad guys that johnny intends to sue for fishing rights and so they decide that they're they're gonna formulate a plan to prevent that uh we get this pov shot approaching a tent that's been set up on the beach and we hear a girl's voice say let's see some skin or the guy says let's see some skin and the girl says nothing comes off till i see it okay how's this [Music] oh come on show me more than the head and then we cut inside the tent where a dummy's head is peeking out of the top of a duffel bag and the girl strips completely nude um and the puppet is flirting with her i know that they're trying to be you know funny here and and sneaky but like even if you take the dummy out of it like or or you put the dummy back into it that's a weird thing to say it's just like i'm not going to have sex with you until you show me your dumb yeah i got to see all of this it's it's her thing because she immediately takes off all of her clothes yeah no she honors the contract she set um and then the puppet's like hey honey i want to see my woodpecker will i get splinters don't worry maybe i've been sanded but then the guy drops the dummy to have sex with her when the monster enters the tent yeah and the dummy's eyes turn to look at the tent opening which is amazing i love that they included that the dummy is a real sentient creature right movie um it turns out though that this is a famous ventriloquist and that uh part of his gimmick was that he had remote controls that would cause the puppet to do things when he walked away from it so maybe that's what happened or maybe this puppet is alive maybe it's a goosebumps situation either way the the monster is attacking and the dummy takes the time to like do a double take yes the guy gets his back completely torn open and then the girl runs out of the tent completely naked and is chased for a while before she's raped again on the beach this is not like the same girl that got raped no again we are seeing a person raped i forget what the character's names are but this is tommy and denise i think tommy and denise tommy is the mark hamill looking kid yeah okay tommy and denise and johnny pull up to his cabin on a boat um and they were all gonna have dinner together but for some reason as soon as they get there johnny's like oh you can borrow my truck if you need to ride back into town and it's like no the plan was that we were all going to talk and eat yeah you talked about you the real reason we're here was that you said you caught some steelhead yeah and we're like oh okay let's let's take your boat and then that's like if right when richard got here we were like so anyway you if you want to leave go ahead it's like well no i'm here to talk about humanoids um you never offered that to me though i would have liked to have left but now you see why i didn't offer it but uh it's funny because you pointed this out jess uh he says we came here to talk and eat and she says and i make great cornbread and he said great let's clean some fish how do you make cornbread what is your recipe this is so strange everything involves fish in this town but before they can even get started yeah it's like uh uh chew and swallow falls it's just everything has fish in it every single meal the bad guys pull up in a boat and throw a bomb into johnny's home uh one of them is very hesitant to do it he's like i don't like this and the other guy's like shut up susan then they throw the they throw the bomb and then you hear some like i guess actually this must be a little bit later because the girl goes cornbread and then the house explodes every damn time denise but then just by sheer coincidence i guess the monsters attack mark hamill on the docks here and i keep calling him that but this is not mark hamill it's just an actor i forget his name and uh the house is still burning on the hill the woman took the truck because she's gonna go to town to get help right and johnny's trying to fight the fire himself but right now uh what is his name sorry danny billy the one who's being attacked yes tommy tommy i knew it was one of those e's they seem to name everybody in this film unnecessarily like there's a lot there's a lot of people that just get killed and you're like yeah we didn't we never really needed to know their name yeah but uh sammy here uh or jimmy tommy tommy gets uh he gets attacked on the docks until it seems like johnny eagle notices that's going on and starts firing at the moment yeah uh we cut back to the girl driving the truck into town when a monster attacks from the car roof like she didn't notice it was on the roof when she got in it or maybe it was in the bed of the truck i guess yeah and climbed up onto the roof but it's attacking here through the front right but she shakes it off of the car and then runs it over and it just sounds like she's running over a paper bag it just like crinkles like it was like a bag of chips yeah just crunched a bag it was like it was like the fritos from the configuration and then right when she thinks she's safe a second monster attacks through the back window and she just drives off a bridge yeah and the car lands upside down at like in like a shallow ravine and explodes the second hits the ground um johnny brings uh lemmy's body what's his name [Laughter] i know you know it now no i actually don't know it but johnny brings tommy's body to town in a boat and immediately they're like you're gonna have to explain yourself johnny like why would i this guy's clearly been attacked by a monster he has claw marks all over why would i bring back the body yeah and this guy's like one of my good friends who just came to have dinner with me but they they don't give him any benefit of the doubt and uh they immediately assume oh you clawed him to death why did you do that johnny and uh the same as the is this tommy the same as the tom and linda character yes yes okay and he gets rushed off to the hospital here jim and johnny and the doctor uh decide they're gonna go hunting for these monsters and uh while they're fishing somehow they mistake a tiny salmon for a full-size monster like they're reeling it in and they're like oh my god here comes here comes and they pull it up and it's just the fish and they're like oh i never thought i'd be disappointed to reel in a fish and it's like you thought this was a human-sized thing when you were pulling it out the doctor says that it is bigger than a normal salmon and that that's a sign that the monsters are probably close which is another hint that she knows a little bit more than she's letting on they do eventually find a pot of monsters outside these natural caves just hanging out on the beach yeah it seems like they're sleeping because she's already made the determination that they are nocturnal hunters so they find them and they're like just wake them up like hey hey it's time to get up it's time to get up and then the monsters try to kill them so they shoot all the monsters and then they end up finding under like a big lump of seaweed one of the rape victims who is apparently still alive and they bring her home and they also take the dead monster to the laboratory at canco which has a laboratory i don't think a cannery company should have a lab that's for all the gmo fish that they're trying to make edwards one of the other people that works at canco tells them that uh they can all go home and canco's gonna investigate themselves don't worry about it we're gonna take care of this and the doctor says i warned you that this was gonna happen and i also haven't told any of these fine people here but that ends now so go and string up the uh the presentation because we're going to tell them exactly what we're doing here and we get a little film strip of the dna 5 experiment where they're injecting frogs i think to start with dna 5 which makes them reach adulthood faster so as a result they are reproducing faster and evolving faster meanwhile michael crichton's going hmm fraud hello joe i want to know what happened in dna one through four i mean i presume dna one is just what's in regular creatures yeah so this said the first one that they developed they called dna2 that's possible but she suspects that because they had some kind of a mistake happen where a bunch of dna five creatures were released into the wild accidentally that the dna five by itself may have latched on to other species including the uh koala kanth i think she calls it but the monsters are basically evolving into a humanoid form and they intend to procreate with humans now and then jim goes oh my god the salmon festival then we cut to the salmon festival where radio dj madman mike michaels from kfish is broadcasting live with miss salmon sandy sandy but he keeps calling her salman because he likes to pronounce the l the hard l in salmon it's just salmon mike don't worry about it the mayor asks for the band that's playing at the festival to pick it up with some faster music like tarara boom day which i think even in the 1900s we had a character make fun of it for being a boring song but uh the band gets mad at him and they're like no we're playing the classics and he's like just make it more exciting we don't want people to leave this is a salmon festival a lot it's been a terrible fishing year too so but it's also like you guys live in the middle of nowhere it's just a fishing town like no one's going to leave the only thing to do in town the bad guys show up to the festival and they call the monster hunt a wild goose chase because they think it's all made up and that johnny just slashed his good friend to death they assume johnny's out having sex with a buffalo right at this moment yeah he's probably out there making it with a buffalo and the good guys show up with a monster body and they just dump it on the docks and they're like hey look we weren't making it up here's a monster body we have no idea how many there are out here and then one bursts out of the docks right here and a riot breaks out a girl on roller skates is attacked presumably stripped though we don't see the whole attack yeah yeah they're people seem to be running just back and forth yeah nobody's leaving because they keep showing cutaways of people trying to exit the dock yeah it was like there's still people on the dock like 10 minutes later it's like why how long is this dock yeah and also it was clear when they brought the body in there was only like four people on the dock and we've seen like five people try and cross the dock and it still has like 10 people on it but the radio dj starts reporting the frenzy on the radio we cut to jim's house where his wife is taking a shower she just put her baby in a playpen but she can't hear the radio program yet but she will be hearing it soon uh one of the humanoids rips a dude's whole head off yeah that was a pretty awesome shot there's just boutin's gore is outrageous it's like him and savini are like the kings of that the dj tries to protect miss salman and uh he gets his rib cage torn completely open like it almost looks like i mean i'm sure it was just a tearaway part of the shirt and then with rib cage like yeah made up on his chef but it looks like he didn't have skin there in the first place oh no you revealed my bones i'm so embarrassed i feel like uh the dj and miss salmon get what they deserve here because we've cut back and forth to them in this tent like five times already yeah and they've just been staying there when everybody else is running and screaming and trying to flee and they just been staying there well it's like the the lady in the fog at the on the radio you have to report on it you're it's your duty as a journalist salmon didn't need to be there right she couldn't miss salmon i agree she gets everything she deserved well no she she is she is a political figure and she is she was elected she has a duty she does not want to incite panic yeah because i'm gonna just keep hanging out and having fun at the party until miss salmon says it's time to go home like for example i'll just stay on the carousel even if there's monsters running in circles around it and corpses yeah there's literally dead bodies riding a carousel around but actually like the dj i was impressed with how much he does to try and protect her like the typical joke in a horror movie is that as soon as the monster gets that close that this guy's just gonna run off because he's all mouth and he's not actually but he keeps her behind him the whole time and he's like trying to like one-on-one fist fight with this monster and then they my bones we reveal his buttons the uh one of the kids at the festival like throws like a flaming torch over a humanoid i don't know where he got this maybe it was like a prize at one of the games and uh it goes right over a humanoid but just close enough to light the whole thing on fire yeah this had to be like the last shot of the movie because they were like okay we only have one suit that fits like a full person well what i'm guessing is that this is one of the creatures that came out of the water while they're pouring gasoline all over the surface so it maybe it maybe it had residual gasoline on it but the balls on this kid to just run up with a flaming tiki torch and yes hurl at it yeah but uh the humanoid completely catches fire and has to jump off into the water and the kid goes and he grabs hank and he drags him to his sister who is trapped on the docks where the docks have collapsed she's unable to climb up to safety and hank is very bad at helping yeah he like goes up to the edge but he refuses to get any closer to this girl and it's like he's like no just reach further no just have a longer arm i'm not going to lay down on the dock this is a new sweater yeah [Laughter] so he refuses to help her until it gets real close uh tommy shoots the monster because hank is not helping and the monster keels over and rolls back into the water but then a second monster starts to come up so hank finally decides okay i'm gonna do this for real now and he jumps off he gets under the girl and starts pushing her up from below when another humanoid grabs his leg and it looks like he's about to get killed but then tommy he waits long enough for the monster to bite hank yeah like you deserve to lose at least a foot over this and then he shoots the monster and kills it and helps hank back up onto the dock at this point like you said the doctor and jim are pouring a bunch of gas into the water and then they light it on fire unclear how this is gonna help anything or anyone at all because all the monsters are on land killing people already yeah we get so many cutaways of just monsters attacking people and roaming through the crowds and crashing into things yeah but uh it turns out that these monsters are actually pretty fragile and the crowd is able to kill them handily by just picking up sticks and smacking them in the head yeah and then like a group of people like surround one and bash it to the ground well they are just like giant fish so and their brains are exposed yeah but while this is all happening humanoids have broken into jim's home his wife picked up the baby and tossed it into a closet real quick um and then starts running around the house with a butcher knife when she gets cornered in the kitchen she pours drain cleaner over the head of the fish and then stabs it to death yeah but she successfully on her own kills this thing jim busts in just too late to save her but yeah early enough still to almost get stabbed himself by freaking her out and kicking the front door open instead of just using a key oh i guess she barricaded her something yeah yeah she kind of reminds me of the mom and gremlins yeah when like the mom is dealing with it in the kitchen and it just throws the one into the microwave yeah and then the whole the whole set explodes or no that's in the second one where the where the gremlins put all the pots in the microwave yeah that's what i was thinking of but yeah so jim busts in she almost stabs him but then they hug and he's like where's the baby and she's like oh he's in the closet it's fine the next morning we see the aftermath of the salmon festival there's weird pink smoke coming out of the carousel did you see that uh i didn't i did not it's just like gushing colored smoke and it's really weird it does really weird that 12 hours later the carousel would still be smoking if it never even caught fire right and why is it pink yeah i don't know hank says that the doctor is back at her lab when jim's like oh where'd she go did she die or something i i just left yeah and and so we cut to the lab where peggy the victim that they they found still conscious on the beach and the only victim because we did see other people that like the ventriloquist girl was never recovered right yeah not yet anyway yeah but this uh this victim is now pregnant and gives birth through her chest to a half-humanoid baby but she also like is undergoing changes herself yeah her pupils change color and everything and then the title comes back and we get monster humanoids from the deep again and that's the end of the film i thought it was pretty cool yeah i mean i i i feel like i like this more than it should only because i needed a palette cleanser yeah from all the movies we've been watching we have a couple bad ones in a row but uh yeah this one was pretty great the special effects are amazing because poteen knows what he's doing the score is good i mean it's early for horner but it's still pretty solid throughout and uh i like a good corny sci-fi movie i feel like my dad would love this movie if i put it on for him yeah he'd fall asleep to this one yeah he would love the first half this was directed by barbara peters we said before this was her last feature because she probably was pissed off enough about having someone come in and direct extra scenes that she was like i'm going to go back to tv where people let you direct your show and they don't come and edit it after you so she worked on mostly tv through 86 when she had her last director credit um the other director jimmy timorakami obviously we said later in 1980 he didn't come back for battle beyond the stars he also directed heavy metal which is a crazy movie yeah is that the animated one yes yeah okay he also directed a 2001 animated christmas carol starring simon cowell as scrooge okay that sounds awful it was written by frederick james i said before he was using a pseudonym for it his only other writing credit is for a docu-series called american experience in 1992 he did one episode of that but that was it for this guy the composer we said was james horner um who comes back with murakami to do battle beyond the stars but he's done so many huge things uh star trek ii crawl cocoon commando aliens an american tale willow land before time field of dreams honey i shrunk the kids rocketeer braveheart casper apollo 13 jumanji and he won oscars for best music and best original song for titanic he's your favorite composer right richard he's not my favorite composer no john williams probably right oh i usually go jerry goldsmith oh okay uh but he's he's among my favorites i'm not the friend i thought it was richard unacceptable doug mcclure was jim hill um he will play the slapper in cannonball run too um he's also mayor kyle applegate in 87 episodes of out of this world that's the one with the oh i remember the [ __ ] pile of sugar cubes diamond cube thing with her dad inside ann turkel was dr susan drake she has mostly tv credits she was married to dumbledore at the time uh the first dumbledore richard harris okay i need some clarification on that dumbledore which dumbledore please this was her first film that he was not in richard harris vic morrow was hank slattery he was obviously the coach in for the opposing team and bad news bears he's a villain of dirty mary crazy larry he was on the tv series combat and as most people know he died on the set of the twilight zone movie yeah which we'll be getting into when we get to that one but it was a crazy i mean look up the story we won't go into it but look up the story but don't google the video of it because that exists too oh god i didn't know that anthony pena played johnny eagle he was valdez and running man he was also elias in the last stand and hector lopez and bitter harvest those last two were macgyver episodes uh dennis galick denise denise galick wait it am i pronouncing the last name right though gallic or gaelic gaelic maybe it's g-a-l-i-k denise gaelic played linda beale who played lisa and don't answer the phone which is the woman who was threatening to jump off the building before the cop came and like negged her off the ledge like you're an idiot get down david strassman played billy that is the ventriloquist character who is a legitimate ventriloquist who still works to this day and the puppet if you're interested is named chuck wood how original greg travis played mike michaels the radio announcer um he played a net transponder and starship troopers yeah he is he is the guy is like it's a dirty planet a bug planet like he's like and he's like like because he he opens the movie yeah because it's the battlefield and he gets immediately like casper of indian he's trying to get him away yeah he gets he gets killed by the one of the bugs um he also played andy warhol in the watchmen um and uh he came back for the 1996 tv movie of this i hope is the same character but i could not find it i tried so hard to figure it out right right maybe phil newkirk and showgirls and showgirls2 which i didn't even realize there was a sequel or that any characters from the first one came back but greg travis managed uh linda shane played sandy miss salmon uh she directed the purple people eater movie and a couple episodes of alex mack and she wrote screwballs with jimmy norski rob boutin played the humanoid in addition to doing a lot of the making the humanoid the one with the long arms because they were they were like three different models there was one that they only had half a costume for that stayed mostly underwater there was one that looked more like a child and there was one that had just weirdly extended arms yeah and he was that one he was the makeup artist and the suit builder for this and daniel elias cohen was the boy with the tiki torch and i have no idea if he is or not but he has the same last name as one of the people that wrote the story for this movie so it's possible that he is related to that person but who knows uh i enjoyed this tremendously i would i would watch it again right now i watched it earlier today again actually what do you guys think jess is this one up or down for you uh this isn't one that i'd tell anybody to go out of their way to watch so i guess that puts it in the down category that doesn't mean i didn't enjoy it it was it was cheesy and fun but it's uh it's not on my recommend list sure uh i'm gonna give it an up again i feel a little biased in that it's like i was like i needed a movie like this right now but i mean i was sold from the title yeah i i do know enough people who in our circle of friends who would like yeah i totally would recommend this movie to these groups of people to watch yeah it's definitely enough for me for the same reasons it's just uh it's good fun weirdness and it doesn't take itself too seriously we have a shot of a a puppet looking at the monster coming to the tent we have a shot of people riding a carousel in spite of a severe monster attack at the salmon festival i think those alone are reason enough to to give this uh the go-ahead jess where's this going on your letterboxed list uh it's definitely not as high as yours is gonna be uh i put this um it's just probably at the top of the bottom third of my list which is below death ship and above don't answer the phone okay uh this is going to be just above friday the 13th for me okay i would rather watch this on friday interesting i'm surprised it's that low for you yeah uh which is puts it below a small circle of friends okay for me i think this goes right above when time ran out which is just below caligula but yeah i enjoyed this one and uh and i think you will too so check it out i think that's everything we have for this movie if you have any thoughts you'd like to share with us we are vintage video pod on twitter facebook instagram and letterbox or as i've said before you can find each of our full movie rankings for the year we can also be found at vintagevideopodcast.com please consider rating us on itunes to help people find the show and if you take the time to leave us a review we will thank you personally in an upcoming episode if you're feeling especially generous you can support the show through patreon.com vintage video podcast thank you so much for listening and i hope you'll join us next time when we'll be discussing the long riders which imdb says is about the origins exploits and ultimate fate of the jesse james gang told in a sympathetic portrayal of the bank robbers made up of brothers who begin their legendary bank raids because of a revenge because of revenge yeah revenge revenge patrick all right well we'll get to that next week anyway we leave you now with the trailer for the long riders [Music] they were nine men they were four families of brothers they rode together from missouri to minnesota and from texas to tennessee they were the most famous outlaw heroes of the west they were known as the long riders this is their story and it's as close to the truth as legends can ever be you don't give us no trouble mister i want your sons mr samuel what do you want him for for robin banks and trains man what do you think your chances are bringing them in it's an amazingly stupid question wait for them to come out [Music] people say they got one of the youngers people say they got the wrong young girl you men did an excellent job of making heroes out of every one of those gentlemen i'll write me a book make myself even more famous than i am [Applause] [Music] excuse me miss i was wondering if you cared to dance i'd be delighted i'm coming back for you gonna be meeting up real soon they got a real fat bank up there scattered it out myself northfield [Music] you open that safe mister you're here the thinker told us he might be coming [Applause] david keith and robert carradine is cole jim and bobby younger [Music] james and stacy keach as jesse and frank james [Music] dennis and randy quaid is cle and ed [Music] miller christopher and nicholas guest as the ford brothers the long riders you