we're on a mission from god wendy so i got that going darling looks like i picked the wrong way to quit sniffing blue light of my life we enjoy your films i thought they smelled bad on the outside [Music] welcome to vintage video where we're re-watching the 80s so you don't have to we'll be reviewing every major film release of the 1980s in real time i'm patrick o'reilly i'm jesse bayless and i'm richard wells and today marks the 40th anniversary of the release of the empire strikes back on may 21 1980. it was written by lee brackett and lawrence kasdan from a story by george lucas directed by irvin kirchner and released by 20th century fox i want to start with a disclaimer if you're a big fan of star wars we are not going to tell you anything that you don't know and i will probably tell you a few things that you know are not true so don't bother telling me there's plenty of star wars information on the internet if you need it i'm doing the best i can well to be fair patrick and i are not really star wars people i am a star wars people we have we have a resident star wars person and he's going to try and keep us on track but even richard can't meet the demands of the star wars community no one can the the information is is oversaturated in the ether i'm sure that if you're listening to this use this isn't your first time seeing empire for most people it is yeah but also there are probably podcasts completely dedicated to this information yes well researched that people who like read books about empire strikes back in preparation for it it's a it's incredibly difficult to research this stuff because there's so much information i couldn't find any trivia at all the imdb trivia page is blank for this movie no one seems to have heard of it that i talked to so i'm skipping the making of portion of so i did patrick the favor uh here of of taking one for the team i watched a couple of documentaries about the making of this uh so i have a few tidbits to sprinkle in here but it's going to be minimal well that will be helpful but i think in general we'll just move through it in the order of the story and uh that should be fine episode five the empire strikes back well so before we go in do you want so the so the budget of the movie was uh 18 million was it really which i thought was incredible considering the sets that they had to build for this thing because you know so much of this was obviously you know practical they had to build all these physical sets you know the the hanger uh i think some of it is recycled from the first movie though right i don't at least the interior of the millennium fell well maybe yes but perhaps that part but a lot of that stuff is new all of the dagobah stuff all of the hoth stuff all of that is is brand new and uh and they spent uh seven million of it on the special effects itself which i'm just like wow there's just not not much left which i i thought was pretty incredible because all of those physical sets that they built were were so huge they actually had to expand one of the stages and then um for the for all the hoth stuff they were in norway on the side of like a glacier which is incredible apparently they picked the place because you could reach it well you could reach most of it by rail so they could actually like ship the stuff in because they're so there's there was so much gear that they had to get over there for hoth and they had these incredible like giant like i don't know what to call them they're not snowmobiles those giant like tractor things you know with the with like the uh tank treads on them i usually call them like snow cats or yeah but they're just hauling all this gear up on the side of a glacier and all these people up there it just it was pretty incredible they actually use a real uh mountain rescue team from norway to play a bunch of the rebel soldiers and apparently like communicating with them wasn't the easiest thing because obviously their english might not have been perfect so they're trying to instruct these guys on how to like and there's also hundreds of them yeah yeah it's pretty incredible that's funny so the weather was actually worse than they anticipated for the for the film shoot so it was really uh really really cold really snowy uh high winds so they had to match all of that stuff when they were back uh you know on the on the stage set and they had to heat the cameras because otherwise the film stock would freeze and snap so they had so they were like covering the cameras in between sets they were heating the film they had to change the oil in the cameras to like a thinner oil just to keep it going in the in that cold uh area it's like the opposite of the problems they had on fury road where the film was like melting because they were shooting in south africa and like record heat yeah yeah but i thought it was pretty incredible they actually tested the cameras beforehand by putting them in freezers to make sure that it would work well i mean uh vehicles and whatnot uh in like places like alaska and upper norway and all that stuff have to it's not just the oil that needs to be changed but the the the coolant has to be different yeah um you have to use different blends of gasoline um it it's it's all different kinds of car maintenance and vehicle maintenance so it i guess it stands a reason that the cameras would have the same issue yeah oh one of the things that i thought was really interesting that they talked about was um the the director was talking about the aesthetic was based on like physical reality so they didn't they didn't make it futuristic oh okay which i think is why it actually holds up so much better than a lot of science fiction at the time because they didn't try to make it things that didn't exist they tried to base it in reality that that all of the stuff that could exist now yeah you know did exist so it wasn't futuristic which i thought i think is a credit to the film being still really watchable today yeah that makes sense there's nothing in it that you don't understand what it is when you see them setting up a gun turret it's like oh that's a gun you know when they're at controls and and uh flipping switches like it's like i understand that they're doing things it's not like these weird like ultra sci-fi like holographic images or anything like that they're people got guns whenever yoda shows up you're like that's a yoda yeah it's a yoda it's based in reality well he said it wasn't he said it's not science fiction he said he said this is science fact well no yoda he called it a fairy tale and i think that makes sense because he's like we didn't do uh you know we didn't do science fiction here because in science fiction you have you know all of this futuristic stuff that's supposed to be based in science and there's just all these facts that have to go around and just like i feel like the closest thing you get to that here is the cloud city stuff yeah i mean yeah he said that they just eliminated all the jargon from the movie so there's like everything is just really straightforward straightforward like you get the audience on board you believe it and that's a fairy tale it's not science fiction it just happens to be taking place in space well and see like that's where like star trek is the opposite star trek is always about the science yeah like well it's while it is fuzzy science they are rationalizing how things work right star wars how does the hyperdrive work you don't need to know how the hyperdrive works it just works right when it doesn't work in this movie which it doesn't often but yeah uh but you know and they do like throw a lot of like a couple little things like you know the negative power couplings and the hydro spanners and things like that but but the hyperdrive itself isn't like they they don't talk about like well it compresses the lightweight they don't go into that yeah like with star trek when they're talking about like when they're transporting people and they they actually will explain how everything works right but a lot of that is also made up techno jargon correct but for the most part they're they're trying to base it in some kind of a reality and let you the viewer know how how it functions i would also guess that that 18 million budget was for the original cut because i i would guess they've spent that uh multiple times over updating visually oh yeah in the meantime yeah the so the we should say that the version we watched is the one that's currently on disney plus which is definitely we should probably give the exact date that we watched it on disney plus because they're going to update this movie every six months probably but yeah it's definitely the updated visual effects so uh you know yes i will enter will i say that i watched the original theatrical cut okay so no updated visual effects for me yeah i i kind of wish that i had watched that cut in retrospect because watching the movie it's not fair to compare this to 1980 films because the visual effects are clearly not 1980s quality and i know this movie was like ahead of the game in terms of its visual effects like it it broke a lot of boundaries but i don't know exactly how good it looked because i don't have the original cut so i just have i just have the newest version of it to look at and be like oh well it looks really nice now i don't know what it looked like when people watched it in theaters i was pretty mesmerized though watching the um so i watched two different documentaries i didn't finish the second one unfortunately but it was the documentary about special effects that was on the laserdisc edition okay um and i was just mesmerized by the fact like how they used to do these visual effects like they're so painstaking yeah uh you know they built a custom um a new optical printer for this process that they had so many visual effects shots that had so many elements in them there was you know elements that the 15 to 20 elements that they were comping together in these visual effects there was like 440 some visual effects shots yeah and each one is going to require like a matte painting and roto and you know all this filmic it was just it's just crazy and it's all being done by hand right right hand animating all these laser effects and stop motion effects the stop motion yeah it took them you know a couple hours to do a second of stop-motion footage and they're matching it back to the original footage that they shot to make sure that they're like right you know everything is matching i'm just like this is amazing the amount of effort that goes into this and then you look at how we do it nowadays and you're like man these guys are lazy you're like how did you only get like two minutes for a whole day's work and make it all blue yeah i want everything in this movie to be a shade of blue i didn't know there was so much green in all the galaxies they also had built a um custom motion control rig for the cameras that that hadn't existed before so they they were matching the original camera motions from from the live action sets to the the miniature model cameras and so that was that was full custom camera that motion control set that was made for this that's very cool getting into the the actual plot now um we start with our episode five title the empire strikes back and we get yellow words floating off into space um i i immediately disagree with some of these words i was like it's like the rebel force is led by luke skywalker he's like he's not the leader he's not the leader he's there he's he's hanging out like leo's not even the leader right now she's there but the general is the one that's like in charge yeah leia doesn't become like an official general she's still in charge she's giving orders i love the scene well we'll get to it where she's surrounded by the men and she is dwarfed in comparison to the size but she is the one clearly giving the orders to them but uh yeah i don't like that it says that led by luke skywalker uh it's a little odd but yeah they're they're hiding in this base on hoth after having destroyed the death star and basically darth is looking for them we see a star destroyer pushing through space and dropping a bunch of probes just like a handful of these spheres into space yeah they're they're just like casting a wide net yeah and a couple of these are going to like each nearby planet to try and look for signs of life and specifically rebel life um luke rides a tauntaun through snow and he sees one of the probes crash he thinks it's a meteor and he radios in that he's going to check it out before he heads back to the base and then right as he's about to check it out he's attacked by the abominable snowman yeah a wampa right is that what the thing is that attacks him yes because it's just called snow monster in the credits yeah yeah it is it is in the star wars terms is called a wampa okay so this thing looked miserable to shoot on set yeah so the guy is actually dressed in like a full suit in order to to play this what is it a wampa wampa thank you so he's like seven feet tall the actor is like seven feet tall and he's on like two foot stilts and then and then you put the mask on and he's like 11 feet tall and can't see anything and he's walking through soft snow in these two foot stilts and you know in this giant bulky suit and he's you know having to like drag a you know a fake body behind him and like it just looks he keeps falling down on set it just looks totally awful that's insane and i'm pretty sure this the whole plot point of him getting attacked by this monster was originally put in to explain scars on mark hamill's face from a car accident well it's not just not just scars but the entire reconfiguration of his nose yeah um which i still don't notice like looking at this movie i guess if you do if you do a side by side you can definitely see that he looks different like he's lost a lot of weight but the accident happened actually during the filming of star wars 77 the first one okay um he had wrapped but was due back for reshoots when he got into the accident and so they had to use a double for the reshoots oh okay the they weren't anything where you needed to see his face but they would have preferred to have obviously more camel in costume but at the time no one cared because no one knew who mark hamill was right because the movie hadn't come out yet yeah this was his first like massive thing so after the huge success of star wars when now he's you know they had they had to put uh skin grafts on his face and uh it was it was an ordeal and he looked he looked different i mean not something different that you think that they were cast in but i guess they felt it necessary to to just kind of explain and i think that the script still called for this attack and it was just a happy coincidence that they could use it to kind of like put stuff on his face and he said that they they used his real scars and also added some makeup to enhance them a little bit but but they also there's there's pretty close-up footage before the attack too but he's wearing like goggles and yeah yeah yeah he's got a microphone or a walkie in front of his face so they're they're at least able to cover it up enough that you don't notice it before the attack and there and there are scenes that are cut um uh it's been a while since i watched the special edition so i don't know how much additional stuff is there because i know that there's additional wampa scenes uh in the special edition but it just keeps adding a whopper scenes yeah exactly i mean there's there's a scene where i think was there in your version of a wampa like eating some meat yeah yeah see that's not in the theatrical cut that was added later uh they filmed it originally but they it had been cut another scene that was cut was that a luke with a entire face graft like like like an artificial skin over his face like very clearly like not his face like a like a white cloth with eye holes and stuff cut to show that his face was being like medically reconstructed uh but that was all cut so you just see the scene of him in the back to tank and uh you know just kind of like coming out of it and then what's the tank called bacta bacta bacta is is like a universal star wars cure-all it's just like uh bringing you back to life yeah it's akin to the uh stim pack of the fallout universe sure see i thought it was like the uh the austin powers goo yeah warm liquid goo phase beginning back at the base everyone's checking in for the night uh it gets unsafely cold outdoors on this planet chewie's working on the millennium falcon and han promises him that he'll help in a minute but he's not helping right now and chewie's angry about it han tells the general that he plans to leave in the millennium falcon but leia basically follows him out of the room and is like hey we need your help here and he's like we need yes well what about you i'm i don't know what you're talking about and she's trying to deny that she specifically wants him to stick around but uh he keeps calling her out on it he mentions the bounty hunter on ornamental uh who is hammering the home that that han is a wanted man yes uh jabba the hutt is actively searching for him uh for twice now backing out of a deal yeah and he's just gonna bring problems if he stays here after han walks away from her this time he stopped by c-3po in the hangar and says oh where have you been leia's trying to reach you he's like i turn off my communicator i don't have anything to say to her and he's like well luke is missing we don't know where luke is and he's like what are you talking about luke's missing and he's like needs to check with a human for confirmation because he just hates c-3po yeah he's like hey what's going on it's luke is luke missing where's luke at he's like i don't know maybe he came in the back door he's like why don't you find out if he came in the back door let's let's figure out what happened here um because if he's outside when this door closes then he doesn't have a very good chance of surviving the night we cut to luke waking up hanging upside down in the in the wampa cave his feet are literally frozen to the ceiling i don't know how you'd do that but you just like spit on his feet and stick him up there sure it's pee he just pees straight up whoppers pee out of their head no that's probably true but his lightsaber was conveniently left like about three feet away from his hands so he's able to force i'm sorry it fell out of his pocket convenient he just keeps it in his pocket is that a rock is that a lightsaber in your pocket but yeah he he force grabs it it floats up out of the snow and and uh he cuts his legs down and he just slices it off at the calf it's so crazy i was like oh god he's so he's so willy-nilly with this lightsaber i i feel like this would have taken at least two swings for me a little precision cutting here and and i i feel bad for the animators because when he he cuts himself down the wampa comes out he hacks off his arm but then when he's running out of the cave he's just like frantically flailing his arms and you see the lightsaber like swinging all over the place and i'm sure like the animator's like just don't have it cut him in half yeah just make sure it's always pointed away even if he's not pointing it away yeah he chops himself down he cuts off albino sully's arm he you know there was an actual abominable snowman in that movie you can't call him albino sully sure i can call anybody albino sully because he's got the horns yeah luke collapses in the snow outside of the cave because he's just on foot now and han left the base before they close the doors so uh luckily han finds him here and obi-wan has told him to go to the dagobah system to find yoda the jedi master right but he's just hallucinating that that's not that's not really happening it's not a real thing but han finds him on the taunton uh the rebels decide that they have to close the doors to protect everybody inside and then c3po is trying to like comfort artu and leia don't worry about master luke i'm sure he'd be all right he's quite clever though for a human being which is weird that they're they call them human beings i guess they are human beings yeah that's one thing about the star wars universe that's always kind of bothered me is that that they are referred to as humans but this is a long time ago in a galaxy far far away so i guess we could assume we haven't gotten to the chapter where they seated earth yet yeah exactly the vision of ben happens right as han is finding him right yeah just just seconds before because he it fades out as han rides into the scene yeah but han basically drops down next to luke and slices open his tauntaun and then squishes luke inside so that he can get to work building a shelter it's a very frequently obviously parodied scene yes but uh i do like that han wheels the lightsaber for a moment like he picks it up and he flips it on and and uses it um i'm sure this is probably his first time using it but he's aware that he could use it as a tool it's not it's not like a restricted to a jedi right only being used it's funny that there are all these weapons and he just only ever uses his blaster for the most part like there's even the joke in force awakens where he like uses the bow caster once he's like oh wow this thing's really great yeah like why have i not touched this in 45 years he gets to work building a shelter and then in the morning rogue two one of the pilots from the hoth base finds luke and han he's calling down to them on the radio yeah because at this point rogue squadron is established and luke is the commander of rogue squadron right so that's why they're going by the call sign rogue right sorry and then luke gets a diaper and he gets in the back to tube han blames leia for his being trapped at the base because now he can't leave yeah they they want to wait until they have the the shield generator fully operational before they risk having ships flying around yeah uh she calls him a scruffy nerf herder and then to show that she's not interested in han she goes and makes out with luke yeah because han doesn't understand women like luke does okay so i have a question here for star wars universe expert here at the table okay so at what point do we spoiler alert coming what point do we find out that they're it's at the end of this movie that we find out that they're brother and sister well it's at the end of this movie you hint that there's a stronger connection between luke and leia but it's not revealed that they are brother and sister until the third return of the jedi okay okay so it's in the third one okay because in the making of a documentary that i watch they're kind of like talking about this love triangle thing it seems like the actors don't know so i guess so it feels like this wasn't revealed until the third script yeah i think it wasn't decided until well that's what i was gonna say i feel like it was an add-on like that they that he that this wasn't like figured out all at the beginning like they like he figured it out as he was going yeah i i think a lot of this is that okay uh because you know george lucas may have had all these like visions of things and whatnot i'm sure he did i'm sure he he had the clone wars and he had an idea of what the clone wars were in 77 because he they mentioned the clone wars yeah and and i'm sure that he knew where he wanted the stories to go but he didn't write them he he had the stories but then for this movie especially you know lee brackett and and morris kazdan wrote what is to come and and set the groundwork for what is to come yeah but uh i'm sure lucas had some ideas i don't think that uh luke and leia was ever a thing to in my opinion maybe it was i'm sure lucas would say that it was vader i feel is probably likely that it was in place only because vader means father yes and so i'm pretty sure that was probably a thing to be foreshadowed but yeah luke and leia i completely agree with you that i feel like it's they hadn't decided that these two were siblings yet but they had already i think ruled out that they would end up together because they're clearly setting up their relationship with han yeah yeah i think i figured that the han thing was was the desired outcome of this thing but it just seemed like their reaction in the behind the scenes made it feel like they had no idea that was coming there would be way more you factor when they were talking about that scene and i don't think i would have called it a love triangle but also on set like even with regard to the the darth vader surprise like people didn't know that on set like isn't the whole trivia bit that they're not even saying that line on set like they were they did that scene multiple ways so that people wouldn't know the i'm your father yeah yeah that it was like obi-wan was your father so obviously uh killed your father so there were secrets being kept from the crew even yeah well to be fair i mean all of darth vader's lines were adr yeah yeah so it doesn't matter it didn't have to be done i want tacos that's not true that's impossible um han goes outside and kills the droid that's moving around this is the probe droid and leia is able to figure out okay well that's an imperial probe and uh they found us yeah so it's time to get the hell out of dodge so they start filling these uh massive transportation ships yeah meanwhile the this information has been communicated to darth vader right well it's been communicated to the fleet and we get the first look at i love that you see like all these starter stores flying around and then they start to be overshadowed by the superstar destroyer the executor is that what it's called the superstar destroyer well the the ship's name is the executor yeah um but they they refer to it as a super star destroyer yeah well at least that's what admiral akbar will call it in return yeah insert the clip of concentrate your fire on that super star destroyer uh but i'm not going to go up on that line [Laughter] concentrate on fire on that superstar destroyer you said it perfectly yeah i'll just pretend that's from the movie uh but you get the idea that oh okay this they're more than just star destroyers or they they still are very a formidable enemy the admiral is being informed that a probe found something and the admiral is just very quick to dismiss it and until vader kind of looms over his shoulder and says nope that's that's them that's 100 of them yeah you know that the admiral isn't very happy that he's been overruled by his you know because we have seen in at this point in star wars that vader vader just works for the government he he is he works for the emperor he's the emperor's right-hand man but even the military officers question him they don't respect him even though he strangles them on a regular basis um you know they don't they don't like that they are the military branch and he is the executive branch and that they are being told what to do by him right but uh so they head out to the hoth system um and they come out of light speed right on top of the planet so the rebels are like oh they're new they're here [Laughter] it's just the rebels sir they're here uh and vader is informed that they've arrived and that there's an energy shield and he goes the admiral came out of hyperspace too close they knew they knew that we were here yeah we've lost the element of surprise and now they could get away and you screwed this all up yeah so he he contacts the admiral and and video skype strangles him which was like to me this is when they start adding like force powers yeah he can do it through video he can do it through video he doesn't need to actually be there as long as he can see them uh he has a form to concentrate on yeah but yeah and he promotes the the next guy to admiral and and i like the glance that the next guy gives to like the other staff in the bridge he's like can you come move this body real quick oh we gotta we gotta get going but uh they they basically prepare a ground assault on hoth leah stands in the middle of a group of pilots and talks them all up for battle and wishes them luck yeah sorry it's also important to note that these energy shields are only energy reflective you can physically pass through them so you know the force field is protecting them from a ground assault from orbital assault from lasers from lasers and stuff because these star destroyers could just bombard the ground but with the energy shield up they can't do that so they land the ground troops to walk through the shield so that they can then attack it and they don't have the technology for bombs apparently because this is a long time ago we didn't have bombs yet well um the reason that they don't use aircraft is that the same reason that the rebels describe uh that they've had their had they they took them a long time to get aircraft working to adapt to the cold oh okay so the empire doesn't bring in any aerial units uh because so it's like the first iron man movie like they haven't solved the freezing problem yeah exactly so they're forced to do all this by ground troops they set up ion cannons that are able to basically completely paralyze a star destroyer yeah so that the transport ship and a couple of pilots can scoot by it without getting fired on we see a few at-ats marching toward the base and thank you for referring to them as atats that's what they are right or walkers and burial walkers everyone calls them adapts and i okay and i do they hate that i hate it even more when they use the symbol for at twice that's that's the most degrading it's and it's the inconsistency i think that makes me mad because there's the atat and there's atsts and atps and they'll say the letters when they're referring to those right only for the atat will they say but don't they all walk yeah so you can just call them all imperial walkers if you wanted to but the pilots are all firing on them pretty uselessly it seems like they the the shields on the on the attacks the shields on the atats are are are not not letting anything get through that's when luke suggests using the tow cable to wrap around the legs of the of the atat but his co-pilot is killed before he can use his and so wedge and jansen are able to wrap the atat's legs with their toe cable yeah um r2 starts to get into luke's ship because he knows they're going to have to leave the planet soon it's also like these walkers aren't just like a guy in the cockpit they're full of troops yes uh so that's the reason once they they toe cable the one that they blow it up because it the the ground troops inside are still inside yes so they that's like yeah it's the boats on on d-day yeah they're full of people it's not just a robot that was walking up but why is it why is it blow-up-able when it's down and not when it's walking because star wars i don't understand everything has a weak point and you can only hit it when the thing's not walking i don't know luke crashes under the atats and barely escapes before his plane and dead co-pilot are crushed han makes sure that leia evacuates he's trying to rush her through the tunnels and there's like a cave in basically and so he says okay we're going to take the the falcon i'm going to say falcon now now yeah paid closer attention to this movie and i know that it's not the millennium falcon like i've been saying like an idiot all these years wait what fall kin falcon falcon like of like the children of autumn the fall can the atats destroy all the generators which takes all the shields down which means that now these star destroyers can just start pounding the ground right right but they don't right because vader vader has also come down so they don't want to start bombarding at this point yeah um but uh it does mean that they can just get there i guess a little bit quicker yeah uh the uh i wanted to mention because you you you are going to put the trailer up yes and we watched the trailer a little while ago and there's a scene with chewie pulling the sign off the door oh with 3po he pulls a sticker off of a door and they show that in the trailer now that that scene is cut from the movie because uh what is happening here is that they have a whole bunch of wampas secured in in a cell yeah and he's removing the warning sticker that says don't go in this room oh okay and so the scene that's cut is is him removing the sticker and then later some stormtroopers coming by and opening the door and this claw just grabs one and pulls and then hit the close button that's hilarious why don't they take that out i guess because it's a little too silly but there's equally silly stuff like in the mandalorian well yeah i think that the universe has gone there for sure in the in this ensuing years i just that that would have that would have been hilarious but also it shows 3po like actively like setting a trap yeah being clever helping at all yeah and and that's one thing that lucas was always against lucas always wants c-3po to not do anything except whine complain and be scared yeah so i think that that's probably why it was cut that makes sense well you could just give someone else the job like have chewie do yeah it would have been like i accidentally thought happened it seems like something he would do anyway the millennium falcon engine stalls multiple times before they're able to successfully yeah launch it's my favorite scene when he comes in and the power goes out and he just gives it a whack yeah and it comes all the lights come back on um and uh it's so great because some of these details come back for again i'm referencing the mandalorian when the stormtroopers are setting up an e-web turret and they set up the turret you see them bringing over like the power block and everything like that and uh you know spoiler alert seen land delorean um they do that same thing the whole same setup where they they bring in the gun they set up the base and they bring in the power source to hook it all up and that's all directly from the original star wars movies yeah i love those kinds of details yeah it's nice that they they do the consistency of the universe down to like the weapon that he's using is from like the christmas special right but but also like you could just have them set up a gun turret but they go through the extra step of putting the stand down setting up the turret connecting it to like a power source like it was there was these little details that made it more believable other than just having a big gun set up for them to shoot yeah there was a process to it um han basically maneuvers around the star destroyers and smaller imperial ships yeah which is another great part all right i keep going oh it's good i love this movie so much uh because they're being pursued by a star destroyer and there's two more coming right at them yeah and for some reason star destroyer captains do not notice each other yeah they just they they crash like you don't you don't see like any explosions or anything but you see they're scraping each other yeah they're scraping each other you see everyone's thrown to their ground and on the bridge uh it's like why did you not see the two other star destroyers heading right for you yeah it's not like you're two henchmen that like cross paths in a hallway chasing somebody yeah they're facing each other too it's not like they're blind to each other they're pointed at each other but yeah han evades capture here he wants to hyperspace out but it's not working and so he goes into the bowels of the the falcon to try to repair it and while he's down there you know you're hearing all these laser blasts yeah but then something harder hits them and he comes up and goes well that wasn't a laser blast something hit us yeah and that's when he comes up and realizes that there's they're in an asteroid field and if that's when he hides in the hole he flies in the asteroid field um uh barely surviving the luckily that the tie fighters were just happenstance hit by the other debris there wasn't it wasn't their fault like they they were just flying and stuff came at him from other directions that they the falcon could have equally have been destroyed by yeah and they hide out in a cave a cave quotes a graboid cave uh luke crashes on dagobah that's the next note yeah i i don't and this always bothers me too it's like you were headed to this planet on purpose you didn't have to crash land the one of the things that happens is the inconsistency of the flight styles of these ships x-wings don't land like airplanes they don't have to like have a runway where they glide glide to a stop they can stop completely in mid-air and land vertically they have that ability but for some reason luke just just full on smashes it into the bog and i get the impression that part of it is because of the atmosphere is like so foggy that he can't see where he's going but isn't that the whole point of having like a droid on the outside of your ship is that it's able to see yeah where you're going but um they they crash r2 falls in the swamp but he survives don't worry guys r2 is in more than just two of these luke shouts r2 which just reminded me of atreyu going [Music] we cut back to the the super star destroyer where an admiral is telling darth that they've spotted the falcon the falcon sorry god damn it i don't understand why we were saying it like this because that's what everyone says however that's how this whole movie they keep saying the falcon falcon yeah but it's spelled the same way that we spell falcon well but everyone it's it's it's i think it's it's the british pronunciation oh okay i tricked han into saying it that way even though he's not british the admiral is informing darth vader they've lost the millennium falcon in this asteroid field and i love the line reading asteroids do not concern me i want that ship he's so like like he's like he doesn't really like i don't care about it like asteroids don't concern me it's like asteroids do not concern me so that's it in the swamp of dagobah luke meets a small muppet character and he tells this muppet that he is looking for yoda and yoda offers to take him to yoda the the this frank oz is is a master of his craft and all the stuff that yoda does is so wonderful when he's holding the light and r2 is trying to take it and he's trying to get his cane with his other hand and he has to reach over his own hand and grab the cane and bring it back like just doing all of that like doing all of that like blind is is super amazing we we go back to the the falcon where han basically corners leia where she's working on the ship in some like closet of the ship and uh he is pushing himself on her basically and ends up kissing her in this corner yeah and then c-3po interrupts to tell them what's going on and uh saves her life no i don't think but c-3po interrupts and han is like pretty upset about it obviously but uh darth receives word that uh the emperor wishes to communicate and so uh he tells palpy that luke would be a sweet addition to their team yeah um so uh again this is where the dialogue will be different yeah for us so i know in the special edition they they altered the dialogue they got ian mcdormand to come back and do the voice and do the voice and the image and they they try to retcon some of the conversation regarding luke's origin and who he is and whatnot in the theatrical cut it's not in mcdermott um and it's doing the voice or or at all like he's not in it at all there you see a different there's a different actor playing palpatine in this scene oh okay they just talk about the son of skywalker must never is it clive revel that's playing palpatine um i think so i think we talked about that before but in the first movie it's not even clive revel right we never see the amber in the first movie i thought in one of them it was like rick baker's wife and a lot of makeup or something like that i think clive revel may have only done the voice okay so perhaps it is rick baker i think it's rick baker's wife in makeup and then clive revel doing the voice but don't don't tweet me if i'm wrong don't happen bro don't have me bro i like the word amps in regard to uh imperialism yeah from the mandalorian so i'm going to say is that is that in anything else or is that no that's just this one okay i like that so imps start firing on uh the asteroid that the falcon is hiding in there's another great scene of the emperor's teleconferencing with a bunch of other captains and just before that you see an asteroid hit the bridge of one of the star destroyers and while the captain is teleconferencing you just see him freaking out and fade out that guy's dead oh yeah and we first we have this shot of uh yoda annoying luke some more they're like sitting down to have dinner and he's like oh yoda lives pretty nearby we'll go meet up with him later and he's like look i don't have time for any of this like can you just take me to him now and then yoda stands up and just starts talking to ben and he's like oh this this kid's super impatient impatient this kid is you gotta get him out of here he's not ready and luke isn't doesn't get it yet that this is yoda but he understands that he's talking to obi-wan and obi-wan is telling yoda like hey you you remember i was pretty impatient too like you got to give them a second to figure things out but then we moved to the the imps firing on the asteroid they keep hearing sounds inside the the falcon and they decide that they're gonna go outside of the ship yeah inside this tunnel which is weird yeah because it should be the empty vacuum of space and they're just wearing like a face mask but they go outside and they find these minox that are attached all over the outside of the ship but the floor is really weird it's like sludge and it's uh soft and muscly and every time he starts to fire at one of the minox if he hits the ground or the walls of this cave he notices that the whole thing shakes a lot and then he realizes that this is not a cave yeah that they are in a graboid's stomach and so they is there a name for this creature oh there is i can't think of what it is right now there's only one creature that's not named and it's causing a lot of problems right now baby yoda baby baby yoda the exog the exogorth right of course is that any relation to the exo squad no i was good with the alien one xenomorph xenomorph exogorth and the xenomorph yeah but they're spelled and pronounced differently yeah so they all pile back into the ship and decide they're gonna fly out of this cave before it collapses with two teeth slicing down toward each other um they barely squeeze out between a couple of teeth and uh fly off into the sunset there's no sun and it's not setting even though even though there is a light source yeah that's one thing that's very inconsistent about star wars is you don't have to be near a star yeah there is always a direct light source which causes shadows um but you never see a star uh what are these wars happening around them there's no stars well you can see stars when you're on planets but you can't see them in space because there's two of them by tattooing and yeah we can see the suns from the planet but when you're in space those suns are gone yes darth tells boba to get the falcon i love boba he's he's he's talking to like a whole squadron of bounty hunters oh i meant the drink yeah actually i was really disappointed with him like i thought like this okay granted i'm not a star wars person so i'm sure there's all this stuff that happens outside of this movie but like he's also in the third movie i guess for half but yeah for a little bit i actually watched a little bit of it last night he's not in it for much yeah i thought this was gonna be like this grand character and he's just doesn't do much well i think uh part of it is just the fact that you never see his face and he only i think has one line an empire it's a couple but yeah it it's it's also the the fan fiction and the when i say fan fiction i mean like novelized fan fiction of of boba fett that goes on and that so people get really excited about his character but it's all been like tossed aside as far as like this isn't real it's just for fun okay so i think that the lore of the mandalorian in the boba fett as the boba fett and but but also the prequels built him up a little bit i was gonna say there's there's i haven't seen the prequels i think since they came out so i thought there was more that had to do with the clone wars and him and all that fun stuff but uh he was just a disappointing character in this movie he doesn't do much that is true he does not do much in this movie i think people were mostly excited because the toy was fun to play with yeah and it reportedly killed a child which is more than you could say for any of the other star wars toys you're not allowed to laugh at dying children return oh sorry um we get a whole cast of bounty hunters here we got boss we got ig 88 we got four alarm is it ig 88 like does that mean it's the same guy from mandalorian or that it's the same model it's the same model okay it's it's it's a it's a bounty hunting droid so are there other r2d2s oh yeah they're they're astrometric droids okay see i thought they all had like different number letter combinations if they were yeah and c3po is just a protocol droid which we see at least one other one in this movie even though anakin built it himself yeah but he just built it to company specs so he just fixed it he didn't build it uh maybe he started a trend we don't know maybe he ran that company in he just never saw this protocol go get your protocol droids yeah um but all of this ends up being moot because the moment like they start talking about um and of course he goes to both that says no disintegrations which is great again in the mandalorian he's disintegrating jawas left and right yeah um the moment like all this is done like they go oh yeah by the way we found the millennium falcon it's it's flying out of the asteroid belt right now yeah back on uh dagobah yoda is uh trying to teach luke how to handle the force he's teaching him how to lift the ship that he crashed into the swamp out of the water and he says do or do not there is no try which is incorrect trying is the difference between not attempting and failing but uh he's unable to to actually lift the ship out of the swamp which means that he tried so there is a try and then when luke's like it's impossible bye and starts to walk away then yoda's like fine i'll do it for you because i'm a bad teacher and i give up then the falcon basically after it gets away from the asteroid and since it's been identified and it's being hunted by the star destroyers it hides actively on the back of one of the star destroyers yeah this this is always another thing that gives me like pause i was like there's nothing on this ship to detect that there's no windows some guy's like in the bathroom and goes huh looks like there's a ship attached to it i can usually see straight out into space from here somebody says where are we i i think we're in the millennium falcon they're trying to figure out where the star destroyers are going yeah and leia says where are we and he says i know it's just i know there's not much there which i was hoping she would say oh i don't know what system han decides to meet up with lando calrissian because he's close by and they're friends yoda coaches luke into a hallucinogenic tree and he says that's a place that's strong with the dark side and you have to go there and so luke goes in there and finds that there's a structure uh so this is a a bit of a sith kind of like location there's a structure there and it's a confusing metaphorical fight where he fights vader but it's just him fighting him with himself yeah because the mask comes off and it's just his own face which is a hint yeah twist um but it's also important to reveal the shape of the structure which is this very angular archway which is the same structure angler archway in which luke and vader will have their final confrontation before just before he gets his hand cut off yeah you want to talk about why this scene always confused you oh yeah i i don't think i realized until this viewing that it was his head because i'm like who's the pretty lady's head that gets cut off the twist is darth vader is a woman it just doesn't look like him yeah and then that's when darth tells boba to get falcon luke uses the force to see that his friends need his help because they're being pursued by all the star destroyers more specifically he senses that they are in pain because he's seeing the future which we'll get into that once that once the future happens we'll get into that yeah he's tempted here to leave immediately and help them but yoda says screw your friends you need to practice you suck right now which will play into something else that you will say later i'll get into that too yeah han and the crew uh make it to cloud city with the with the falcon and meet with lando and we get like a half-assed like i'm gonna punch you just kidding or friends moment yeah that's basically everything that happens here on this bridge we go right back to dagobah right yeah uh and uh luke is even getting more and more distracted yeah and he finally decides to leave and yoda and obi-wan now are trying to convince him yeah they're like you're 99 you're so close just wait a second well and because they are willing and luke says and sacrifice han and leia and yoda says if you honor what they fight for yes let them die because and i this is my firm standpoint for all these movies obi-wan kenobi and yoda are both dicks yeah they are using luke to clean up their freaking mess because they can't do it themselves yeah and they wanted to let these other people die yeah they're willing to sacrifice all of his friends everything to train him to get him to be powerful enough to defeat vader uh and he's not playing ball and so they start trying to manipulate him and the worst is in return of the jedi when luke says i can't kill my father and obi-wan goes well then the emperor has already won it's like dude just give him a moment at the process yeah uh i i i love the characters that we want in yoda but i feel like i've always felt like what they're doing to manipulate luke in this situation is not very cool it's very guilt trippy parent thing to do yeah but lucos anyway um and we get the famous line the cryptic line of obi-wan saying that boy's our last hope and yoda says no there is another yeah and now we can always wonder what the prequels and the sequels what that line means it had a different meaning then i was going to say at the time they were obviously talking about leia correct but now you could mean so many different things because you could mean rey and you could mean adam driver baby yoda you know you can baby yoda yes there is another i left a baby with verna herzog i see death and chaos i would like to see the baby let's love that see he's like he's sleeping i would be very quiet i wanna i will hope that vernon herzog just said i'm gonna do my own lives he made it out of that season right no no he didn't sorry spoiler if he hadn't watched mandalore we watched all of it i just don't remember him dying he he uh when uh gene carlos esposito comes in he opens fire in the whole bar and everything oh okay that he died in that in that hail storm and i love gene carlos vizita so much i was like oh my god come on gus why are you gonna do them like that um c-3po overhears that cloud city is a trap and is immediately disassembled yeah he's blown apart no disassemble chewie somehow like wanders into the room where all of c3po's parts are about to go into a like a furniture or something a bunch of ugg knots are are getting ready to throw them in there and he's like wait i know these parts and uh he starts like rebuilding him half-assedly but the trap springs and uh everybody is like locked up and put away in rooms and han is taken away to be tortured yeah so this is important this is when luke was saying that he feels that they're in pain in the future yeah and han is being tortured and and says they didn't even ask me any questions yeah because they were just torturing him to set off luke's spidey sense yeah they were just hurting them to hurt them so that luke would sense it darth vader and boba fett are here at cloud city and darth says that leia and chewie should be imprisoned there but that han is a gift for boba fett that he's going to take him down to jabba and get a bunch of money for him right because boba fett is doubling down he is getting paid from the empire to have found them but then gonna get paid additionally for jabba to bring han he's gotta finance that fat yeah they detect that luke is approaching and uh they decide that they're gonna do a test of their carbonite freezer uh to make sure that that works i don't know why they wouldn't know already that it works but because i guess they have a solo here yeah they don't test it on people yeah right apparently it's not designed for people i'm not sure what we're normally putting in carbonite yeah it seems from from mandalorian like you can just push anybody into it yeah and also it it's such a small narrow tube like what else yeah other than people are you freezing that could fit in there yeah but uh they decide they're going to test it on solo and uh later they're going to use it on luke and then deliver him frozen in carbonite to the emperor um and then the emperor's gonna be like he could have just brought him here yeah we're trying to convince him to join our team he didn't have to do this is he upset about the carbon footprint that's it as solo's getting loaded into the freezer we get the the famous line from leia i love you and han responds with i know which they came up with on set and carrie fisher was strung out on cocaine yeah lando turns on the troopers he contacts lobot to come and uh intercept them yeah because that guy with the ball guy with the thing around his head is an android yes together looks like a dj oh yeah and uh luke gets in the fight with darth vader but he darth vader basically orchestrates it he's like yeah lead him here like do everything in your power to get luke to fight here and i'll push him in there yeah they have a big lightsaber fight here darth is encouraging luke to embrace the hatred that he has for this man who he thinks killed his father and uh he thinks it'll give him power but it's also he's suddenly pushing him to the dark side boba fett loads han frozen and carbonite into his ship and leaves everyone else escapes on the falcon but darth and luke continue fighting all throughout the ship yeah yeah like darth gets pushed off a thing and then but apparently crawls through a tunnel really quick because when luke goes down to find him he's gone and there's a big tunnel well we we establish in uh the phantom menace that jedi have super speed when it matters they can run out really fast when you can't get them out of a situation link the the next part of the fight continues like in this like alcove where vader is kind of like just sick of the fight so he just starts throwing stuff it's like dude just just submit to this but then luke gets sucked out a window and he lands on this gantry and when he goes back into the rooms of the gantry that's when we get the recreation of the uh yeah it says this very angular with a flat top triangle kind of issue and and this is it this is the fight that we envisioned from that cave and then again just like in the cave they come out of the structure and fight just outside of it on this long bridge yeah over like a huge pit that goes down hundreds of stories yeah and then lukas is just gets his hand cut off yeah and you have to imagine somewhere there was a wampa just laughing at him like ah dick and and the lightsaber goes tumbling away so i have a question about star wars oh that's fitting that's out of nowhere so um later uh in the movies that i watched recently ray gets gifted a lightsaber yes is it this one it's this one okay who went to the bottom of cloud city's giant tunnel thing and found this lightsaber we don't know because maz kanata says that's a story for another day aka disney plus will cover it at some point because they have to spell out every corner of this universe eventually but uh i i remember when when uh people were predicting that like the first line of the last jedi when she's like trying to hand off the lightsaber to lucas he would be like you know there was a hand with this did you guys find the hand i think maybe even mark hamill made that joke i don't know it seems like something he would say but yeah they continue fighting he slices off luke's hand and then uh he offers to complete luke's training in the dark side that he'll be much more powerful than he is now and more powerful than yoda or obi-wan could ever help him be and and that he's going to kill the emperor right like the two of them are going to kill him and rule the universe as father yeah because uh the emperor he even says the emperor has already seen that you're that you're he's going to die yeah that's why we're here to get you is because we we need you on our team or you're going to kill us but he is not interested in the training and refuses and then he says darth says obi-wan didn't tell you everything about your father you told me enough tell me you killed him and then darth says nope that's me i'm your daddy uh he says it exactly like that i'm definitely impressed with my own uh impression yeah again the famous this is a true surprise that's impossible um if you if you ever see the behind the scenes footage of this it's great because there's just a pile of mattresses yeah yeah the wider shot in case he did fall there's just mattresses piled up you know he's he's a really ugly crier here i noticed that it's just just really unattractive faces making yeah and then he falls and then i this shot the reaction shot of darth is just like a oh geez i guess there is another way like it's it it made me laugh because it's almost just like a uh what as he's just tumbling down um i i am still of the mind that luke was committing suicide here oh for sure oh i agree with that yeah that he wasn't planning on surviving this that he's like i'm out there is a weirdly convenient tunnel that he also i mean you're fine i think he forced himself into it yeah like he used the force to float into this tunnel i guess because i feel like even if you're just falling through this giant shaft you're if you hit a tunnel like that that'll still kill you yeah but he hits it at just the right angle that he slides into it and uh the tube basically leads to the bottom of this cloud city structure and he falls out of the end of it onto an antenna that's hanging under the ship yeah who puts an antenna under a trash suit i assume this is a trash that's what i assume as well and i also questioned the and then a placement just like i can't get any of my favorite radio stations what happened well i just threw away about 12 towels [Laughter] all this aluminum foil wouldn't that make it better well i don't know who would repair they cage it we're gonna have to throw away more foil we want to get a better signal um but yeah he uh he's very bad at hanging onto this antenna even for a guy with one arm like i feel like it seems very clear there's a there's a horizontal part that you put your legs over there's a vertical part that you wrap your arms around like you still have your arms you're just missing one hand yeah but i think they do a good job of the makeup and the stress because like he's obviously in a lot of pain because he's just pale and sweaty yeah like like he's just barely staying conscious but uh yeah like he he he tries to reach up to the shoot but the shoot closes and he starts calling out to ben uh obi-wan which he still calls ben which i think is weird uh using his fake name yeah to help him even though obi-wan already said i can't when if you're doing this what am i gonna do um so he then decides to call out to leia yeah with his with his forced dms uh and and she senses him and tells the falcon to turn around uh which it one of my favorite shots where it flips up but goes behind the cloud that's in front of it and then comes around the other is cool they see luke hanging up and they just park and this this part always freaks me out i don't like this when lando goes up the tube because he's on like an elevator and it's the tube the shaft is only the size of him and he's going up and there's a door above his head that opens up as he approaches right as he gets to it i was like what if it didn't open up what if it didn't just be squished i think it's one of those like shopping store like the doors that auto open when somebody's close enough to it like i guess but it's like it's still freaking me out like oh oh god please open okay like if i was like in that shaft every time i'd be like i'd be like on the ground like just in case it doesn't open up that's going to help a lot as the hydraulics just compress you yeah into a little richard brick it freaked me out here when luke just drops off the antenna again he's like dude he's coming to get you just like hang on a second yeah we don't need to drop off like he did that on the you know and the shaft up stopped at the top here buddy but they they also add a little tension here because we don't we don't see him land we just see him let go of the thing and we don't it's not wide enough for us to see lando so we just cut back to like in the in the front of the millennium falcon where they're like getting ready to leave and then lando comes on the radio he's like all right i got him let's go it's like what happened i feel like that line was added later because it was a little awkward um but uh lando brings them in and uh they evade some imps and uh luke and darth have a quick uh force chat flashing back and forth um and they're because they're right up against the the superstar destroyer like flying just in front of it which is like why don't you fly away from it i don't understand why you're hanging out so close to it yeah um you're in space you can go in any direction but they can't get the hyperdrive to work still lando was informed that they had fixed it but uh vader had his crew sabotage it um yeah so r2 knows how to fix it and fixes it just in time and the falcon hyperspace is out and you just see it's just a it's another great reaction shot of vader just looking out the window and then he turns around and just walks and everyone's just kind of like don't look at him don't look at him it's also interesting to me because right when r2 fixes it they go into hyperdrive but uh r2 like falls into the pit because he's getting thrown back by acceleration so like they don't have inertial dampeners like wouldn't he just smash into the wall at light speed yeah maybe it's just not working as well as it could be but yeah we see luke uh recovering and he's getting a new hand looks a lot like his old hand yeah strikingly similar and uh he's testing all the fingers yeah getting some test dabs yeah i did want one of these to just go right through the hand and be like oops yeah does that feel like i stand through your hand okay good this one's working throw it away this one's ruined maybe we should give you a hand that doesn't feel pain yeah and then uh lando and chewie uh leave in the falcon yeah uh did you notice what lando was wearing no i didn't he's wearing han's clothes he's wearing what else is on the ship this is so weird he could i'm sure they have other clothes on the the rebel ships he doesn't like where han's clothes it's like in thor ragnarok when hulk is wearing all of tony stark's stuff because that's all he had that's all that was on the uh the quinjet when he stole it but yeah that's basically the end of uh the second installment of this series yeah they talk about meeting at a renew um but it's left on a on a bit of a cliffhanger even though the next movie doesn't pick up for like three or four years later yeah well this was already what uh three years after the first one correct so they they spaced them out more but but it but it feels like not as much time has passed between uh a new hope and empire but in between empire and return on the jedi a lot of time has passed okay because luke's completed his training yeah he he's wasn't he pretty close though but wait what do you mean he's completed his training i think he's just gotten better but he never he didn't go back to digging in between in between he does he he goes back to dagobah he finished he come he gets more training he gets his last three credits but i thought in i thought in jedi he goes back and he's like hey i'm here to finish my training he's like yeah toodles no no he he's he's already gone back and this was him coming back again oh but yeah he's already come back he's already done all the all the jed as much genetic training as yoda can teach him um there's other adventures that happen in like if you like consider like the shadows of the empire canon which lucas did for a while i don't know if well it's not up to him anymore yeah uh what is canon all the tv shows and the clone wars series basically yeah the clone wars series is now canon and mandalorian and mandalorian is canon yeah but yeah so several much time has passed because now luke is is fully like mind tricking people and uh but it's great that he's more embraced he's because he's more force neutral like uh because he's wearing black like he is yeah he's not like totally fine with the light side or the dark side at this point but anyway that's the return of the jedi we'll get into that this is empire he's a centrist now yeah but yeah uh the director here was irving kirschner who directed spies which i haven't seen but it's spelt s-p-y-s with asterisks in between all the letters because it's donald sutherland and elliot gould as the two lead characters and they're obviously playing off of the popularity of mash but i would like to see it because i like the two of them and i like their chemistry so maybe it's funny um he also directed never say never again which was the the connery thunderball remake that came out the same year's octopussy he also directed robocop 2 and an episode of amazing stories called hell toupee toupee like with the hair yeah yeah the the writers here uh lee brackett wrote the big sleep rio bravo the long goodbye which is like one of my favorite movies of all time and uh an episode of archer way back in the 70s so we'll talk about ahead of her time yeah uh yeah she's also very well known for a series of books the ginger star series um which are much like star wars in that it's it's space fantasy it's they have spaceships but they also have swords i mean it's interesting it's it's have you read any of them i have not okay but i am familiar with them and so they tapped her to to kind of create this more epic lore which i think is where you're probably going to get things like yoda and i also feel like she she lends it a lot of like the classical film feeling of like the because the han character feels very uh derivative of like a philip marlow type but yeah because she she has written both of the like the big uh live-action philip marlowe movies with the long goodbye and the big sleep yeah um our other writer here lawrence kasden uh wrote like the big chill silverado the bad whiter movie raiders lost our yes with george lucas right yeah speaking of our story here is george lucas who wrote the first couple trilogies or the stories for the first couple trilogies and wrote directed the original star wars which is no right and he directed all three of the prequel trilogy correct and uh he obviously wrote the indiana jones films and american graffiti thx 1138 which he wrote and directed both of those directed i think the last big film he directed was red tails yes was that the last thing he did that was a while ago uh yeah i think that was the last film that he did and then that like 10 years ago no that was like 2014. was it feels longer ago than that 2012 2012 okay eight years ago yeah interesting i guess he didn't direct it he just it was he just produced it sorry did he ever play a character in the uh in the movies um i know he did it on star tours i know that his his son is in uh one of the prequel trilogy movies yes his son and his daughter i think his son dies yeah i don't know if he's i'm sure he must appear somewhere yeah um because most most people in the cr a lot of people on the crew make john williams made it into the stuff yes movies mark hamill is uh luke skywalker here you probably know him from corvette summer i actually slipstream slipstream i don't know slip straight slip stream oh man that's a great one have you seen corvette summer though i've not it's so great it's him and annie potts and they're just adorable together i do love annie potts he's the joker he's the joker lots of cartoon voices yeah he works uh with a buddy of ours on uh the current justice league but our friend's doing superman's voice on that show he's the new voice of chucky he took over for brad dorf in the latest reboot and he's just an overall great guy seems cool he's a very uh he's on twitter a lot and uh he's a very amusing person harrison ford was han solo i can just tell you the characters that he's played and you know who they are from their movies yeah uh jack ryan indiana jones rick deckard richard kimball president james marshall yeah everybody knows harrison ford carrie fisher was princess leia um she was uh rob's mom mia on catastrophe which you still need to watch with me because it's great it's amazon she played rosemary howard on an episode of 30 rock that i love oh god she's great she was like she was liz lemon's idol and so she tries to hire her to write for the girly show but all of her pitches are getting rejected by by uh jack until she gets fired from the show and uh after hanging out with her for a while liz kind of decides that she's just literally crazy yeah it's like she keeps drinking from this thermos yeah and if it was just a sip of it it's like this is vodka yeah she's just been drinking this whole time one of my favorite lines from her in that episode is when she's like come on liz it's the 90s it was like 2007 oh but she's also in the burbs when harry met sally austin powers her partner awesome powers is it's a cameo but it's still but uh i do love her part in uh uh when when harry met sally her and bruno kirby yeah because the whole the whole joke of that was they were on a double date for the other two but they hook up with each other yes said and she uh she also has a cameo in was it jane silent bob strength back where she was the nun yeah oh the hitchhiking nun but she was also a prolific script doctor um on like every romantic comedy from like the 90s and the yachts well she's also in one of my favorites what's that drop dead fred oh yeah who is she in drop dead she's the best friend that like tries to help her help phoebe cates when she's getting a divorce she owns a riverboat for some reason a riverboat yeah that dropped in fred sinks yes oh but then she gets all this insurance money and so she's happy about it i need to watch that movie again it's been so great and then you need to watch the how did this get made episode of it is there how did this get me it's and it's the most amazing episode they've ever done because they're so divided and jason matsukis and june are both in the we love this movie how dare you i might have heard that one then i i definitely remember him like madly defending a movie yeah it's interesting that it's not the first time i've heard this because another friend of mine said that he's been discussing this with people if you saw it when you were younger you are in the camp of i love this movie is one of the best things about the case in that episode of how did this oh it's not yeah because i think june was seeing it for the first time uh or i think jason was seeing it june had seen it i think okay but jason had not seen it before and was just he said i was crying yeah yes i did hear this one then yeah yeah but yeah that's great uh billy dee williams is lando calrissian um he obviously plays lando in the new trilogy and he was lando in the lego movie they got everybody who did their their own character voices when there's the star wars cameo except for han solo which was your buddy did the voice of han solo in the lego movie oh yeah keith ferguson keith ferguson what does he do it so uh keith was uh our voice actor uh sound alike for king julien oh okay but yeah everyone billy d williams uh reprised lando anthony daniels is c-3po i think mayhew is chewbacca is chewbacca in there um he might be in the lego movie means yeah yeah and then han solo is your friend but more importantly billy dee also played harvey dent right it's sad because he played harvey dent twice for tim burton but he never got to turn into two-face yeah uh and he but he got to play two-face in a different lego movie and i was like yay he finally got it he also weirdly plays judge reinhold in the movie fanboys which i'm assuming is an actual judge yeah i believe probably a joke within the movie i haven't seen that movie like since it came out practically and uh he also plays pastor charlie in snoop dogg's hood of horror which you worked on which i worked on uh with billy d williams that was the project where i got to meet uh winston said more um we enjoyed the macaroni and cheese that they had at the craft services there and watching empire and watching billy dee's performance i was like man donald glover the perfect choice perfect yeah for for orlando i mean i'll never see solo but before before they even started shooting it i was like if they don't get donald glover for this they're crazy because he's such the right choice uh anthony daniels was c3po he's in every star wars movie he might be the only person in every star wars movie yeah but i think he's he says he's officially done now too right well they might be done making the movies maybe it'll just be tv shows from here on since they cancel all their upcoming stuff and i'm sure ryan johnson's trilogy will fall through and they they canceled the benioff trilogy and all that's left is like favro's gonna do a trilogy and uh feige is going to do a trilogy it's just going to be the marvel universe yeah because they're like hey why don't we lean into the filmmakers that are actually turning out decent films right but uh yeah uh anthony daniels uh it plays c-3po in all of the movies except for rogue one i don't think has c-3po and solo doesn't have rogue one has c-3po okay but um i don't know solo he plays a different character then yeah because he's definitely in all of them yeah but yeah the the c-3po r2d2 cameo in rogue one is just like yeah i'm not the biggest rogue one fan i mean i am it's probably my favorite of those movies i agree with that but um uh anthony daniels is also legolas in the uh back she lord of the rings david prowse played darth vader he's technically one of three people playing darth vader in this film he did not know that his voice was going to be dubbed in the first movie until he saw it in theaters and he famously spoiled the ending of this one publicly before it was even shot because he just guessed the like he went to some like presentation it's like oh yeah i'm gonna you the second one's gonna be great you find out i'm luke's dad and all this other stuff and people are like wait what why are you telling us that and the studio got mad about it but uh i don't think the studio likes working with david prowse anyway yeah uh peter mayhew was chewbacca he's just a wonderful uh loving person or he was we just recently lost him yeah he played chewbacca all the way up until i think force awakens was this last time yeah and his imdb credits are almost exclusively chewy or himself he was also a prolific redditor and was always fun to see him just pop up in the comments on random posts kenny baker was r2d2 he uh was fidget in time bandits yeah and he'll be back later this year in elephant man uh frank oz was the yoda voice uh he's obviously fozzie and miss piggy in the muppet movies he was also the puppet he's gonna say he was probably one of several puppeteers because for some reason imdb just says voice but i'm pretty sure he was the puppeteer he directed an episode of leverage in season four oh he directs lots of stuff yeah but uh oh well we have a leveraged crew member yeah that was after me or that was before you started five okay he also directed dark crystal little shop of horrors dirty rotten scoundrels uh what about bob so good stuff the score robert de niro and ed norton i wasn't going to mention that trying to be kind to mr oz but you had to go there alec guinness plays ben uh benjamin obi-wan kenobi benjamin watson obi-wan he's in bridge over river kwai he's great he's great in that movie i love his like last line in the film um he's also uh the butler and murder by death yes the blind butler um he'll be back later this year and raised the titanic and he was prince faisal in lawrence of arabia those are his big ones um also i i would say pretty famously did not like these movies and regretted being a part of them yeah he you know he he didn't know what it was going to be he got roped into it and and then you know i don't know if he was contractually obligated to continue to come back yeah um but i'm sure he you know since all this stuff is like compton yeah it looked like when marlon brando shows up as like yeah as a superman's dad i was just like can you shoot me in a room for one day yeah then fine i'll come back yeah uh i'm sure it was the the most medium work probably done in his own home because i don't want to do this yeah he he was not a fan of these movies i think because that took over his career correct yeah and and and no one remembers you know people think about ala guinness it's the first thing they go to but honestly going through his imdb i was like i'm surprised there's not more here like other big movies that he was in because going through it like those are really like the only three that i felt like commenting on well uh he also was in the bbc series which is excellent of the uh uh tinker taylor soldier spy and smiley's people oh okay uh which would you know be remade as a film with gary oldman right uh but he played the gary oldman character smiley yeah those movies and they're really really dry but really good spy shows but he's like kind of the anti-bond because he's like kind of a layman like every man type person yeah but he's you know he's not afraid to get into the rights yeah he also played hitler in something called hitler the last 10 days that i hadn't heard of but uh interesting to see alec guinness in that role uh jeremy bullock played boba fett um he plays smithers in for your eyes only and octopussy i don't remember that character it must be someone at the british intelligence yeah that would be my guess jack purvis was uh chief ugnot he played chief jawa in episode four and he's ugh not here uh in cloud city and he's also in the gilliam trilogy of what is it called the dreams trilogy dreams trilogy that's what i thought yeah and he's he's not in like like a costume like he's just playing an actor yeah like in all three of them yeah yeah he doesn't like you know he plays ugnaughts and all that stuff in in the star wars movies but in in in time bandits brazil and in in especially in baron right just playing he's able to just be himself as a person i feel like he gets the most to do in adventures of baron johnson of those three yeah i mean his character is yeah he's very small in brazil but no time ben is he's probably is a pretty big role too yeah but he's splitting the role with like all the other time bandits yeah they're all kind of playing the same part whereas in adventures of baron munchausen he has a very like specific role in the film specific set of skills yeah he's also a dark crystal the labyrinth willow so a lot of good stuff clive revel was the voice of the emperor uh i guess that was just in the original release correct and then they replaced him with ian mcdermott in the the 2004 edition but clive revel plays the fire marshal in robin hood men in tights he plays cletus and gentlemen broncos he played alfred for three episodes of batman the animated series okay and he was also a friend of macgyvers and a guy for episode it dies very early that's the episode where uh mcguiver gets shot in the head and forgets who he is okay i think it's called doa macgyver uh kenneth colley played admiral pete or pike pitt pitt um he played jesus in life of brian yeah i didn't think there was a lot of other credits uh to bring up there but that that cracked me up julian glover is general viirs um he's the one who's the ground the ground the ground general so he's he's on the walker um obviously we was i was gonna say last crusade yeah uh james bond and for your eyes only uh you know he's he's also aragog and harry potter in the chamber of secrets and i guess most recently game of thrones where he plays the grand maester for uh queen cersei who's always pretending to be a daughtering old man but is actually quite capable yeah um he in uh indiana jones on the last crusade he's the one who chose poorly right correct yeah it's the one who well he didn't choose elsa intentionally sabotaged him yeah but then the knight accuses him of choosing poorly yeah um maybe he chose uh his his mistress poorly yeah uh bruce boa plays uh rebel force general rican this is the guy who's on the ground in the in the war room on hoth making all the all the decisions um or i guess following through on decisions that leia makes but um he played pogue colonel in full metal jacket he plays a u.s general in octopussy he plays henry maturin in razor's edge which i love yeah and i'm just now picturing his looking voice from octopussy and i know exactly who he is yep and uh he's also a policeman in return to oz which i'm assuming is it from when they're bringing her to the hospital at the beginning that sounds right it must be because i think she gets out of a police car at the place malcolm christopher malcolm was uh rebel force zev rogue two this is the guy who finds them the next morning after their cold night he plays kirk matunus in highlander and he's also the dad in labyrinth that leaves the leaves the baby with uh with our heroine um not heroin the drug but never leave your babies with heroin but but heroin the child murder yes uh dennis lawson was rebel force wedge rogue three yeah um yeah wedge antilles he uh he's half of uh biggs and wedge who get called out in like 20 final fantasy games because star wars fans are in charge of translating things from japanese to english apparently but uh he's also uh his nephew liked star wars so much that he auditioned for the the prequel trilogy and was cast as obi-wan ewan mcgregor is his nephew yeah um john ratzenberger uh was rebel force major durham yeah brenderland i don't remember seeing him in this movie they're probably gonna have a beard there are two people who i suspect are him only because they're the only two people that have mustaches oh okay and i was like i figure like john ratzenberger always has a mustache yeah and he's there's there's two rebel officers that speak to han solo uh and one that they show in the trench and he says come on i was like i'm pretty sure one of these guys is john rosenberger yeah so i would have said it was the yeti he's also uh he's in cheers obviously he's basically the anthony daniels of pixar because anthony daniels is in all the star wars movies and john ratzenberg's in all the pixar movies yeah and right now at least we have uh stan lee is in all the marvel movies although that's going to change soon john ratzenberger can also never own a restaurant bob anderson uh played the imperial officer uncredited but he's the second of three darth vader performers he did all the sword fighting all the lightsaber fighting because he is a fight choreographer a world famous fight choreographer and uh olympic fencer but uh what's his name again bob anderson because i had so in the making of he was finding the guy peter diamond peter diamond is another stunt man okay okay cause then he was sparring with peter diamond and he was saying that peter was in the first one as a tuscan raider who attacked him but he was really uh mark hamill's being really nervous about having anybody film them practicing the fight scenes oh really yeah because he's like i look really bad when i'm practicing because they add all this other stuff to make you know they cut it so that it looks really good and you know and like and and like i don't screw up and like it just it looks really cheesy when there's no sound effects and they just fall in a mattress and yeah that's funny so he was all self-conscious about it but uh bob anderson here did stunts on uh from russia with love uh the highlander uh he taught all the sword fighting for the highlander and uh he also worked on movie 43 oh no and fred three do you know what fred three is is that fred claus no fred is like a youtube celebrity oh yeah the kid with the high-pitched voice and they made three of those movies and bob anderson worked on the third one that's one of his last credits joe johnston is uncredited as captain sean valdez yeah a hawk rebel he's also the visual effects one of the visual effects credits i believe the visual effects credit i wonder if he was on set yeah but obviously joe johnston will go on to direct many many classic films of our childhood jurassic park three the rocketeer captain america yes captain america the first cats in america i i will accept the first captain i don't really like that movie but it's all right but yeah honey i shrunk the kids in rocketeer are the go-to's for him james earl jones was the voice of darth vader also uncredited strangely but uh but you know it's him yeah you know you know james earl jones um he played uh bleeding gums murphy um no was that him i don't think it was but that guy was doing a parody of james earl jones because uh james earl jones though was a frequent simpsons uh he's kang or kodos but in the episode where all the phases are showing up in the clouds yeah the those are all not james earl jones yeah but they are all james earl jones characters yes including the this is cnn yeah this is cnn and then you have darth vader and you have uh uh mufasa but uh i i didn't get the joke until very recently when he says kimba i mean simba like i thought the joke was just like oh i forgot your name even though i'm your dad yeah but the joke is that it's just a huge ripoff of kimber the white lion yeah but somehow that that went right over my head before but uh yeah james earl jones is great um he'll work with harrison uh oh no sorry not harrison ford oh different jack ryan sorry was it ben affleck uh wait no he does work with uh he does work with harrison ford in in one of them because he he is a through-line character for uh the jack ryan characters he's like okay he's in around october but i think in the one the harrison ford one he's he's dying uh here supports it more than one jack ryan yeah uh the one that james jones is for sure is in the uh clear and present danger yes and that is for sure harrison ford um and he's also in uh i like him in doctor strangelove which is like one of his first movies but he's one of the guys on the on the with slim pickens and the bomber yeah king jaffee and coming to america right ian mcdermott uh is the emperor in the 2004 version right moving forward he's the the voice of the emperor here and he obviously came back to play palpatine in the prequel trilogy and maybe in the sequel trilogy spoiler alert what else has he done he mcdermott yeah oh uh he was in dragon slayer that's what i know off the top of my head okay uh uh that's a that's a fun disney movie is that on disney plus um i don't know i want to look it up now yeah it's uh it's a weird fantasy fight high fantasy movie with uh peter mcnichol as the lead really yeah okay now i have to see it yeah it's a weird one you also need to see a slipstream by the way uh is he in that too no but uh that was the one i mentioned from yeah yeah dragon slayer will have that in 81. i just want to verify that a mcdormand is in this dylan mcdermott yeah there he is yeah so dragon slayer is a is a fun one isn't he also in the phantom of the the phantom the phantom not not ben affleck but uh bad guy titanic billy zane billy [Laughter] i think back to our animated oh yeah billy zane movies oh no he's in the phantom menace oh isn't that the sequel to the phantom am i confused ralph macquarie plays general macquarie uncredited i don't remember a general macquarie in this yeah but uh i know who ralph macquarie is yeah because he basically designed the whole look of this entire franchise he's basically uh ralph mcquarrie is to star wars as h.r geeker as the alien and his illustrations are still being used to decide what things are going to look like yeah and all the new movies and and all the disney plus shows that they're spinning off and everything and apparently tree williams is in here yeah i saw that oh like tree williams uh he's credited or uncredited as echo-based trooper according to imdb but i don't i didn't see tree williams in here but i didn't see john ratzenberger and he's much more recognizable than tree williams is um no offense to the substitute is there anything else you guys wanted to dig into richard you're good um i i think i think i think we've done a pretty good job yeah and we don't care if you disagree we tried real hard it's like a two-hour episode we don't have any of those it's basically this the ninth configuration so far jess up or down it's an up yeah richard it's up you like this one i like this one um i'm gonna say down just because no i'm just kidding what's up um up up is good it's good uh letterboxed richard i already know you told me earlier yeah uh it it is my number one is it uh i don't know if it's gonna be capable of being dethroned but we'll see yeah for this year or at least i i think we'll start the the lists over each year i watched this movie by myself and i was all my face hurt from smiling yeah so i love star wars so much um jess letter boxed i'm gonna put it at the top all right all right i'm also putting it in second place [Laughter] just behind caligula no it's just just under forbidden zone which is another one that you ranked down in your caligula zone um but uh the only marks i have against it are that you could have taken maybe 15 20 minutes out of the middle where it kind of drags in places where i never get bored watching forbidden zone but that's that's my only uh my only complaint here i think that's everything we have for this one if you guys have any thoughts you'd like to share with us we're vintage video pod on twitter facebook instagram and letterbox or as i said before you can find each of our full movie rankings for the year we can also be found at vintagevideopodcast.com please consider rating us on itunes to help people find the show and if you take the time to leave us a review we will thank you personally in an upcoming episode if 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girlfriend time or something what do you mean girlfriend is your girlfriend out here that's not my girlfriend it's our girlfriend full stream win a prize all right you want to play again there's no hustle on this one how do you think he'd feel if he knew what makes you think he doesn't know you know what's wrong with you you're hung up on the chick what are you talking about what am i talking about i'm talking about donna there ain't no room in the middle with those guys gary busey jody foster robbie robertson [Music] carney you