we're on a mission from god

wendy so i got that going darling

looks like i picked the wrong way to

quit sniffing blue light

of my life we enjoy your films

i thought they smelled bad on the

outside

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welcome to vintage video where we're

re-watching the 80s so you don't have to

we'll be reviewing every major film

release of the 1980s in real time

i'm patrick o'reilly i'm jesse bayless

and i'm richard wells and today marks

the 40th anniversary of the release of

knight of the juggler on

june 6 1980 it was written by william w

norton and rick natkin based on a novel

by

not napkin natkin

based on a novel by william p mcgivern

directed by robert butler an

uncredited direction from sydney j fury

and released by columbia pictures

what does that mean uncredited direction

let's go over this shall we

uh originally the rights were purchased

before the book was even published by

20th century fox for 200 thousand

dollars

so this guy this writer must have had

some sort of reputation if he could sell

a book before it was even published

indeed variety reported in june of 75

that mcgivern would compose the script

himself

which did not eventually happen for a

moment pete hamill was attached to adapt

the script with john frankenheimer

directing but that too fell apart

sidney j fury was the director as

filming began but resigned from the

production for

quote unquote personal reasons in the

wake of multiple hiatuses

resulting from a broken foot that brolin

suffered during the chase scene

they had to stop down for a while and

then they talked about

maybe having him be wearing a a cast on

his leg for the whole rest of the movie

really which he's running for 100 of

he's constantly running this movie i'm

not surprised that he

broke a foot in one of these scenes

because he he

is going all out on these running scenes

yeah but then

after he came back they went on another

hiatus so he shot everything that

brolin wasn't in and then when they came

back

he quit the show he was just like i'm

done i'm done dealing with this this is

too much

and he was later sued by the producers

for breach of contract for walking out

on the film

and was replaced with the credited

director robert butler i also want to

preemptively apologize for

how often i'm going to accidentally call

josh james brolin in this episode

we start with a man reading a paper in a

restaurant listening to

a handheld radio he just has it propped

up on the table

and a waitress brings him his breakfast

that seems like a really rude thing to

do

bring him his breakfast no listen to it

like a personal radio on your breakfast

yeah outdoors at least well and i

thought it was part of the soundtrack of

the film until he turned it off i was

like oh

i guess this is just this radio yeah he

quickly makes

a face out of his breakfast um and then

he

drowns the eyes and ketchup and pays

and leaves before eating any of it yeah

this is clearly a

crazy man's breakfast yeah now

he doesn't eat it which frustrates me

and i put that in all caps that he

doesn't eat it

he over ketchups it which is just a sad

waste of ketchup

but then something happens a car honks

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and i thought it was someone signaling

him to get in the car

and because he gets up right after the

honk yeah and i was like oh okay so this

is like his

co-conspirator so he was rushed away

from his food yeah

which is why he didn't need it like nope

no there's no other person it's just

just the thing he did

and the car honking was meaningless and

also as he's walking away he stabs the

upside down ketchup bottle into the

middle of the face of these

these eggs with sausage brows we see

lieutenant tonelli

he's arriving at a crowded crime scene

outside of a bank or something he works

with the bomb squad

he is complaining about the price of

wedding dresses because his daughter is

about to get married

and he asks another police officer to

pass a message along to his daughter

that she can go ahead and buy the dress

and that he's tired of arguing about the

price

so i think that this is great this is

the first scene of

a lot of scenes in this movie where

i feel like the whole point of them is

character building yes in a way that i

think most movies don't

this cop character we don't necessarily

need to know

anything about his family life or his

home life and

i love all these scenes where they just

add these little tiny tidbits they're

not long story points they're just these

little moments that don't even feel

you know out of character for the movie

but you start to

realize who all of these characters are

all of these minor characters have great

little backstories and i also think that

it is somewhat important to his

character that he has daughters

specifically

because it allows him to sympathize even

more with what brolin is going through

but it's also this weird subplot that

doesn't pay off not that it needs to pay

off but there seems to be a run

of puerto rican bombers yeah in the

background

like there's another action movie

happening at the same time well i think

that they are trying to

just point out what new york city was

like on any given day

i mean not that they were getting bomb

threats on every

every day but the opening of the film

goes through a lot of scenes

like a portrait of the city and i think

that this sort of re-emphasizes like the

the neighborhood in the area and what

everyone is going through

yeah and he also at the beginning here

before he goes into the building

to start negotiating with these bombers

says something along the lines of it's

another goddamn new york day or

something like that

you know i got a feeling it's going to

be another goddamn new york day

which i think might have been a better

title

than night of the juggler but because

you're not saying it right

right it's night of the juggler oh okay

robert

you just gotta hear it we have a montage

of new yorkers going about their day

turnpikes ferries crosswalks

we see boyd this is brolin's character

he's parking his truck and he's heading

into an office to collect his paycheck

he is a trucker now when he goes into

the office though

there's oh there's two women in the

office and they're like attacking this

rat

with a broom yeah a rat got into the

payroll department but like once again

we never i don't even know if we

yeah i think we maybe find out their

names because he asked he asked one of

them for the check

but i just love that we've humanized

these characters that we

only see for a few seconds by having

them have something to react to they're

trying they're being freaked out by a

rat

it could have been a very simple scene

he just walks up and takes a check out

of a window and that's it but they

they complicated it everybody has a

backstory i think it's great

and i also think that even in this scene

it's character building to show that

this is a guy who gets stuff done and

that you can rely on like even if it's

if it has to be done violently like

he'll take care of it

but he comes in and they're freaking out

about this rat and he just smashes it

like i'm not even clear what happened it

looked like he just punched it to death

and then he asks for his check he uh

he goes and he gets in a taxi tells the

guy driving the taxi to keep the change

i'm rich

and we see ketchup man and he's calling

a house from a pay phone

posing as a school employee to do an

attendance check

and verify that a girl will be in class

that day because

he intends to intercept this girl as he

arrives home boyd's neighbor tells him

that his ex-wife wants him to call her

he's brought with him some hot dogs that

he bought off the street

and he wakes up his daughter for her

birthday hot dog breakfast

but she's on a diet right and he also

has a full-size

candle on the plate with the hot dogs

for the the birthday candle

i wanted to buy a candle holder because

i started to have one

so i bought a cake

the second surprise here for her

birthday is that he has fifth row

tickets to a baseball game she's very

excited about that

no he doesn't he bought the ballet

ticket tickets

he was joking when he said oh they were

supposed to be for the baseball game he

actually bought her ballet tickets which

is what she really wanted

oh i missed that well later later in the

film he says

well she's going to be disappointed to

miss that ballet well no he's talking

about

a spoiler alert she gets kidnapped but

uh he's talking about the fact that he's

like i don't even know if she's alive

and all i can think about is this ballet

that we were supposed to go to

yeah she's concerned about eating these

hot dogs because she's trying to lose

some weight

and which she's lost plenty of since the

last time we've seen her

right what do you remember the last time

we saw this girl

her character was named chubby and she

was in the movie little darlings was she

yeah yeah her character in little

darlings was just named

chubby and she doesn't have a lot of

lines i think she's one of the two girls

who says

we love each other or their parents are

visiting on that day

sure i like this scene where he so he

brings her hot dogs

for her birthday and gets her ballet

tickets and i think it's a great

building scene for his character to show

what a sweet

dad he is even though he doesn't have a

lot of resources

yeah and he's also not totally like

against the

dieting or like trying to get healthier

thing because he's like okay well we'll

jog together to school

right so he's supportive in that way

like he's like i i'm gonna help you

reach your goals

yeah and then he's like put these hot

dogs down you can't eat those you're on

a diet like

i just budget you these but don't eat

them and then as they're uh

as they're jogging to school he tells

her like she's like oh are we gonna go

to like a fancy restaurant

well uh actually i had reservations for

two at

uh at uh ronald's

you know finals yeah

mcdonald's mcdonald for my birthday

she's like dad it's my birthday you're

gonna take me to fast food

he's like yeah i'm a terrible dad as

they start to get closer to the school

they kind of

separate we see ketchup man

and he's breaking into a building and

running through these underground

tunnels

he runs up to a car that just got parked

and

i can't tell what he's using here he's

basically yanking out

the ignition lock yeah but it like he

pumps it

like he plugs in and then pumps it well

cause because i think that

the pumping motion causes it to it's

like one of those

no it's like one of those um

screwdrivers where you you actually oh

okay to force it

yeah and so i think that he's doing that

and just getting the ignition out

because

because in these old cars all the

ignition is is just

a key lock i mean you it just allows you

to make the contacts with a key and you

don't need it

once it's out you can just make the

contacts yourself well he does get it

broken and stolen very quickly

he's watching as boyd and kathy the

daughter

are jogging he hops out of the car when

he's right alongside them and then he

runs up to her and grabs her

and throws her in the car as she's

screaming to her dad because he's still

pretty close i think we should take it

back a minute

okay because we missed a scene where he

scouted

the rich girl oh i didn't even know that

happened yeah

okay and they just happened to be

wearing the exact same outfit yeah so

what happened was

so he makes he makes a phone call to a

girl's parents pretending to be from the

school

and this girl's parents are are very

wealthy and he confirms that she's going

to be

going to school that day and he waits

outside the rich girls building

and sees what she looks like and what

she's wearing as she exits the building

and then what happens is he goes to the

park

where he's planning to grab her and sees

another little girl

who is boyd's daughter wearing a very

similar outfit

running through the park and that's when

he grabs her okay that makes more sense

because

i was confused why he was so certain he

had the right girl this whole time

they're both wearing overalls and one is

wearing like a pink plaid shirt and

one's wearing like a blue plaid shirt

okay because in the macgyver episode

hearts of steel

you have mayam bialik and her friend and

i think they

literally trade their jacket yeah well

they're trying on clothes and so

when they get asked to leave they just

grab their stuff and leave but the

friend grabs her jacket

and so the kidnapper just grabs the one

with the jacket really the only

significant difference between that

macgyver episode and this movie is that

the two girls were actually friends with

each other

al also the ending to the episode where

they kind of

it doesn't make any sense but yeah so

now ketchup has the girl

and she's in the car and boyd is

shouting after them

and just starts chasing them but they're

right off

of central park so there's not really a

lot of room to move

every time this guy drives anywhere he

ends up slamming on his brakes right

away because he's in standstill traffic

as he's running up to the car uh brolin

basically just

knocking down pedestrians hard yeah

ketchup keeps telling the girl to stay

quiet

boyd is like running into traffic

ketchup is just honking at people like

what are you guys why isn't anyone

moving well because he's literally gets

stuck

in a bunch of traffic and so he has to

he's got cars in front

and beside and behind him so he

literally has to ram them

and start driving off the road in order

to get

away from a boy who's running after him

still

and one of the people he rams is a cab

and while the cab driver gets out to try

to like say hey you know we need to

deal with this he drives off and boyd

tries to steal the cab

what are you doing grab my little girl

your daughter yes get it get it come on

get it and we'll kick your best i got

them covered this is great and i really

was hoping that this character was going

to be

coming back yeah i agree because he's a

named character and he's an actor who i

like

yeah there's a lot of single serving

characters in this chase at this point

this scene i am a hundred percent into

this movie

like this was the moment you know we're

about 20 minutes into this movie and i'm

like

this is it i'm in this is so good and i

was really hoping that the movie would

like maintain the energy and the feel

and

just the gung-ho like all of these

characters being just

a hundred percent willing to do exactly

what you as the viewer

want them to do in that moment and they

did

yeah absolutely deliver throughout the

rest of the movie like everybody's just

like yup that's what i do

go do it and then they do it and that's

great it's honestly it's rare

in in this type of movie where you're

like why didn't he just do that

right there like that's what i would

have done and the person does what you

would have done

every single time yes it's amazing i do

have to counter point these

these praises with that i feel like

this movie should be shown to kids as a

psa of

what did this girl do wrong yes okay

that's true i will concede that point

because the only yeah the only thing

that i

would change about this movie is like

half of the time that this girl

is being taken away by this man i'm like

just just shout just shout something

just grab onto a pole

just be dead weight just do anything to

slow him down

pulling you through a crowd of people

your dad is like 50 feet behind you but

also he should be yelling that's my

daughter he's got my daughter stop him

yeah yeah but he's not he's crowded it's

new york like

somebody will help you like when you get

somewhere

where you're stationary for a moment

like there's people around that'll help

you

she's way like she's running around

she's they're walking down

steps but the adults in this movie do

absolutely everything i would do and as

a child except for one of them

i could totally forgive you well yeah

sure

i feel like you've given up on

kidnapping other people's children

for money but i'm just saying you can

you could forgive a child for not

knowing what to do in the situation when

you've been threatened and you don't

know if this man is going to hurt you

uh you know and he told you to do this

or he's going to hurt you

you're going to comply did stranger

danger not exist yet

like that that you should not that you

should just capitulate not resist

man do something i i was just getting

really frustrated

yeah and and i mean i don't want to be

this person to say well i don't have

kids so i don't understand

that kind of stuff but i was like man if

i was a kid

i would not be doing this i would not be

okay

that's called victim blaming richard

yeah i do i blame this victim but

there's also been

studies where they show that people not

in these kinds of situations you know

say oh i would stand up to my attacker

or i you know i would threaten them or i

would

you know attack back and when you're in

those situations instead of be

feeling you know anger and

you know trying to retaliate against

this person you are

in so much fear that you're paralyzed by

it and you just have to go

along with whatever's happening yeah

because she well she definitely wasn't

paralyzed by the fear because she was

just

walking with me well i mean paralyzed in

so much like i don't know what to do i

can't resist i'm not i'm just going to

do what you want me to do

because sometimes she does scream for

help we'll dwell on this too much but it

i was angry i was angry i was like

scream for help

scream for help just never stop

screaming just blaming the kids yeah but

what if he just shot her because she was

screaming

did he he didn't have a gun he had a

knife he stabbed

i'm gonna shoot you with this knife

that's not what you do with knives

you stab people with knives what if he

stabbed her because she was screaming

what if i mean at one point and that

would be a bad thing to do

her dad gets into the window of the cab

as he's driving away and he gets stabbed

yeah she's she's the one who tells him

he has a knife yeah so that's a good

reason to not

she knew there was a knife she didn't

want to get stabbed

i i would rather get stabbed than to be

taken to a place where i may never come

back from i'm gonna

plan your kidnapping and we're going to

test this yeah we're going to see if you

actually follow through on this

we're going to keep stabbing you all day

and you're going to say

i love this i love this thank you

i have another anyways let's bag it up

so he gets

in this cab with mandy patinkin and i am

in love

yes cause uh he has no qualms about

crashing into other cars and driving off

the road

destroying his vehicle no regard for his

vehicle for the law

for his own safety he's just like we are

going to get this guy let's do this i

will get him no matter what he also

tells him that he

i think he says he won the puerto rican

500 yeah which is the thing where

500 puerto rican guys get drunk and

race to somewhere in new jersey or

something yeah

and you have to steal a car and the

first one who gets there everybody

steals a car

500 cars are stolen and whoever gets to

new jersey first wins

and he won that so he's good and uh

but yeah he's he's driving like a maniac

and he's

he spends so much time screaming

backwards out the window

that he's like almost crashing into

people on accident and

a pedestrian runs out into the street

and he has to steer away from it

and just slams full speed into the back

of a truck here

uh i i love when he's yelling he's like

it's like did you get a look at the guy

was he black puerto rican is like he was

white i knew it was a white guy it's

always likely a pervert thing

it's always white guys we were perverts

every time i see somebody hanging an ass

out a window it's always a white guy

oh my god figures mostly your purves are

white guys no offense but every time i

catch a guy hanging his ass out the

window a dragon is cranking the best

seat goddammit is a white guy i don't

know what's the matter with you people

you must wear your underwear tonight or

something

um but the other thing that i thought

was weird he slams this cab full speed

into the back of a truck

and then brolin gets out of the driver

side door like

he didn't get out of the back seat he

got out of the front seat

so i don't know why that would have

happened unless like the back door

jammed or something

but either way the first thing you see

is is brolin rushing out of the driver's

side door

he goes to chase up with the car and

that's when like you said he's reaching

in the window and

he like actually full-on catches up with

them and then he gets stabbed

um i'm guessing that that car crash or

somewhere in the

crazy stunt driving is where he broke

his leg because i think it happened in

one of the

in one of the car accidents but uh he

somewhere along the way he found a pipe

and he's like bashing at the windows of

this

of uh ketchup's car and he completely

shatters the whole front windshield

he knocks in the driver's side window

and he gets his hands on

the actual guy the driver

who just takes off with brolin hanging

out of the driver's side window

this scene was pretty terrifying the way

that they shoot it the guy's driving

full speed down the street with

with most of brolin's body hanging out

of the car

and he keeps swerving towards the cars

that are parked on the side of the road

until he actually tears him off the car

by crashing into this stuff

yeah like he he's gonna like get up

alongside of a car

and just let the car hit him yeah so

brolin is forced to either get hit by

this other car or

let go of the car and ultimately he does

get hit yeah he's knocked over the top

yeah he rolls up over the top of it

ketchup crashes this car and then just

drags the girl away

again the two of them head into the

subway

boyd sees where they're going and so

he's able to follow them but he's kind

of limping now

and he has to jump over the turnstile

to keep up with them and a cop notices

and tries to arrest him for it

but he punches the cop out and keeps

chasing after ketchup

because like i don't have time for this

like my daughter's getting away you're

not listening to me

and so he knocks the wind out of this

guy and just keeps running

he barely gets into the subway car

before

the doors close and then they're just

chasing each other through the subway

car

i feel like this would have been the

best opportunity for the girl to try to

get help because you're in a very

contained space and it's not like this

guy could get

you away but you're with a ton of people

so this would be your opportunity to be

like grabbed onto this

pole inside this subway car and you just

scream bloody murderer that this guy

kidnapped me

yeah but instead they keep moving until

they get to the next station

and ketchup and the girl get out

immediately and the chase continues

uh when he gets up to the surface yes

i'm going to keep calling him ketchup

well no i was like i'm excited for this

outside the porno theater where he just

full of dis

stabs this guy yeah he he gets stopped

by this

busker on the road and it like he can

tell that this guy's angry

and panicked and he still is just like

hey hold on we gotta talk

i'm gonna sell you something and he

keeps telling the guy to leave him alone

and the guy won't leave him alone and he

just stabs him in the chest

and the guy's like panicking and

freaking out like he cut

me he cut like he's crying

and all these other people on the street

don't know how to react to this

because they're like is this part of

like a scam like what is happening why

is this guy crying all of a sudden

and they nobody's helping him so he just

fries more

is this where he drops whatever he drops

yeah

yeah i don't know how it happened that

he dropped

this stuff yeah but he dropped some

things

and and uh one of the women who work at

this

uh place yeah it's a porno theater yeah

porno theater dance club gentleman's

thing but she she decides to pick it up

and just take it with her i guess

yeah gentlemen's thing

gentlemen well i mean that's the there's

never been a bigger misnomer than

gentlemen's club

ketchup steals a work van from a

construction zone

and uh just books it back down the

street boyd sees the guy

that's preaching on the side of the road

with a bunch of papers like piled up all

over his station wagon

and he just gets in the driver's seat

but the preacher notices i'm doing it

and hops in the car before he can leave

so now he's driving with this preacher

in the passenger seat and he's telling

him

oh you're breaking a commandment like

i'm gonna get you to stop

i just love it because he just keeps

doing all the things that i'm like just

take a car steal whatever the closest

car is that you can find

what he doesn't do though is drive very

well very

clearly tell everybody what he's doing

this man kidnapped my daughter

i am chasing him yeah he keeps saying uh

he's got her he took my girl yeah so he

keeps driving like this

the two of them are right alongside each

other the station wagon in this

and this van and then they come up to

another truck that's moving across the

street

and there's only enough room for one car

and the van makes it through and this

brolin just crashes the station walking

full speed into the side of this truck

and this poor preacher is just well he's

having an asthma attack he's literally

using his inhaler

no one's wearing their seatbelts yeah so

he was already dying

and now he's covered in blood and he's

sitting in the car as roland gets out

and he's like oh now i gotta

continue this chase on foot and the

preacher's just sitting there bleeding

from the head

in the passenger seat going jesus does

save

jesus does save

sweet jesus saints

and then he dies just throw away

character he doesn't die i'm assuming

but this throwaway character that didn't

didn't require this backstory we get

so much with so little we know that he's

i don't know what you call the people on

the street that push religion on you

but he's one of those crazy and he's got

asthma and he's got like there's all

these character development things that

happen so we know that he insured his

vehicle

yeah there's so much they cram so much

in for these characters that don't mean

anything and i love it

yeah um uh boyd tries really hard to

total the car that his daughter is in

before this crash though yeah it kind of

bothered me how

fast and hard he's hitting it like it

seemed like he was trying to drive it

off the road and flip it

well and i was concerned in this chase

because there was like so many

uh corners being rounded that once he

starts ramming the van

they stopped showing interiors of of

ketchup man and the daughter

and i was like oh [ __ ] he's got the

wrong van oh my god that'd be crazy

because they they're doing everything

they can to not show the

the guy driving his face or at all yeah

just the van it's like oh he's

interesting

he's got the wrong fan and then but then

they do a wide shot and you can clearly

see like a bigger passenger and a little

passenger in the van

like okay well then there they are but i

didn't even notice that they had

they'd kind of cut away from that for a

minute long enough for it to be scary

once gus enters the van with kathy you

never see them inside the van again

who's gus ketchup man

we get a quick shot of lieutenant

tanelli stopping at a frozen yogurt

place

i i i like the way that today talks to

people because he's not he's not

concerned with like embarrassing himself

and he's very like all he thinks about

all day is money

it seems like so he walks to this place

and he's like so how much money do you

guys make a week

like my son-in-law wants to open a

frozen yogurt place

how much money do you bring in and the

guy immediately off the top of his head

knows he's like oh it's like four or

five thousand dollars a week everyone's

perfectly willing

to to answer his questions and humor him

and they actually get offended when they

can't finish their stories yeah

but he's like he's like oh this actually

tastes pretty good he's like well yeah

it's lower in fat

it's better for you and he's like so how

do you make it he's like well

they take a bunch of milk right and they

let it go bad all curdled lumpy and sour

and then they add bacteria and he's like

bacteria you mean like

a disease and he's like yeah kind of

it's like germs and mold

and so that grows in the milk and he's

like all right i'm done he just turns

around

he throws the thing down and he's like

spitting it into his hand what he

already ate

even though he liked it it's the best

description of yogurt i've ever heard

yeah and they're just futurama joke

did they do something like that yeah

because like they're getting they're

getting an inspection done and they look

at fry's locker and it's just a mess

the woman the inspector goes why is

there yogurt in this cap

i can explain that see it used to be

milk and well

time makes fools of us all

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but about here is where uh tineli first

gets the call that

boyd is going crazy um he's at the

hospital now from that last car accident

we see ketchup walking kathy through

a series of like demolished buildings

this is like an area that they're trying

to gentrify and

i think what the plan is is when you

demolish these buildings you leave the

rubble there so that people don't move

into the space

so they just leave all these piles of

rocks where buildings used to be

so they're crawling over all these rock

piles to get to his building

and uh he's complaining to the girl that

all these billionaires don't care about

the neighborhood and

he spouts a lot of his uh his racist

problems with uh

with what's happening with the area it

sounds more like he doesn't care about

the neighborhood

yeah well he he does he thinks that

they're purposely

that the billionaires have a plan that

they're like paying people to move in

right they want the people that he

considers undesirable to move into this

neighborhood and then

and then the neighborhood goes it's

super cheap and then yeah super cheap

and then the millionaires can

buy it all up and raise it all to the

ground and put their own condos there

because he's actually a building owner

like when we're saying going to his

building he would he's the owner of that

and he used to have a bunch more

buildings here

and the price of it is just dropping

precipitously but i also get the feeling

based on his rants that he probably

wouldn't want

people of different races in his

building oh for sure yeah

um but he's also repeatedly blaming her

father as he's dragging her along and

she's like

i don't understand what this has to do

with my father he's you know he

he's not a billionaire he's a truck

driver and

he doesn't have a lot of money and my

name is you know kathy boyd and he's

like oh sure your name's cathy boyd oh

that's real good

you think i'm you think i'm an idiot you

think that you think you're so smart

you're gonna trick me into

just letting you go like i got the wrong

girl or something and uh

here's where he touches on the title

maybe the only time

and he says that uh all these

billionaires they juggle the books

and but now he's gonna be the juggler

cause he's the one

keeping things in the air and making

money for himself and that's

that's the extent of the juggler

metaphor for this entire movie

which i feel like if you're going to

adapt the book you either

flesh out the metaphor to explain the

title better or you change the title

yeah because this the book wasn't even

out yet

but maybe it was in the book more

that's what i'm saying then you have to

include it in the movie more or

you change the title and don't worry

about it because it's not like the book

had a built-in fan base it wasn't

it wasn't even out yet before the movie

was made

and there's plenty of movies that are

based on books that have different names

than the books

he seems 200 sure that he's got the

right girl

you complained about the juggler part i

assume i want to complain about the fact

that it's

knight of the juggler and this entire

story takes place during the day

well the very very very very last scene

and that's his night but it's his night

this is

juggler's night and the feeling's

right i was so upset that there was no

credits for that song at the end i was

like i want to know who wrote this song

when his back is turned she makes a run

for it but he takes his time chasing her

because

he knows she can't there's nowhere to go

and he's just shouting

yoo-hoo like being playful and creepy

as he chases her she hides in one of the

nearby dilapidated buildings

and is approached by basically a wino

who's like hiding in this alcove

and she says there's a guy here and he

took me away from my dad and

i'm trying to get away he's like oh i'll

bring you somewhere

safe and this is where uh ketchup

finally gets to like

do one nice thing which is like it's

nice for one of these two people

he tells the guy to back off and that

he's scaring the girl well the guy did

offer to share

yeah you know they could have a party

and share and he's got a nice bottle of

whatever

um hobo juice homo spirits

yeah and uh but uh

ketchup realizes what's going on and he

gives him multiple warnings like

you can step away i'm giving you this

opportunity to leave us alone

and eventually the guy steps forward and

they break this

bottle and he's there's a fight over it

but

ketchup spins the guy around with an arm

around his neck and stabs him in the

chest with this broken bottle

and kills the guy and then he just takes

the girl away and he says

don't ever try that again a lot of

terrible people live around here

yeah the kidnapper killed the rapey guy

but

i don't know how great it is for her uh

we keep cutting back to the van that he

stole

and there's like a bunch of local

neighborhood kids like picking the van

clean

i don't know what the point of this is

because he doesn't care about the van

and we never go back to it

well but i think that just to show that

it's just re-emphasizing the

neighborhood

being but undesirable but also no one's

gonna find this van

right so if you were hoping that the

police are gonna go oh who parked this

van here illegally

it's been stripped and it's gone there's

no there's no way of identifying whose

van it was

boyd is in the hospital still and he

tries to sneak past a cop by throwing

like a lab coat over his head

um but the cop stops him on his way out

and he's like hey

where do you think you're going and he's

like i gotta go get my daughter i don't

know if you heard what happened

he's like yeah i can't let you go so and

he knows and he knows this guy they know

each other

right because um i don't know if we said

it before but boyd was a

a cop previously he was laid off and

that's why he's now

a trucker the cop is arguing with him

and he says well i feel sorry for you

because you're going to have to shoot me

in the back

if you think i'm just going to stop

willingly and go with you

but he ends up getting arrested on his

way out of the ho or out of the hospital

anyway yeah i felt really bad

and and the nurse apologizes too because

or the doctor i

feel that's sexist of me to say that she

was a nurse guy i don't know if she as

he's trying to leave she goes

hey mr boyd i found a cane for you

boyd sean boyd hold a second there

please

detective fogerty you're under arrest

it's like oh

they were really trying to help and she

even says i'm sorry when he

when he gets arrested yeah we see

tonelli again

and he's arguing on the phone that a

caterer is not necessary for the wedding

shower

especially since he has four daughters

that he expects to marry off

almost all of which he can remember

their names yeah i love that

like it's just it's not a great

character building moment we realize

he's got a whole bunch of daughters that

he's gonna have to pay for weddings for

it

and he cares the least about michelle we

know he sees this arrest happening at

the door to the hospital and he takes

custody of boyd

this is where we first learn that boyd

is a former cop

we get this clip of ketchup on the phone

and he calls the house

of the the girl that he intended to

kidnap the woman answers the phone

and he tells her if you want to see your

daughter again not all chopped up in

pieces you're going to give me a million

dollars

and she's like i'm sorry i don't

understand and he's like i'm going to

call back and then he hangs up

but luckily she didn't say you have the

wrong kid

he turns around and he offers kathy some

ice cream but she says that she can't

eat it because she's on a diet

and this is where we start another very

disturbing subplot

that he's in love with this girl

basically

he's like i bought this ice cream for

you you don't need to lose any weight

you look good with some

with some skin on your bones and he

talks about how his dad used to call his

mom like like she had some flesh on her

and and that made her more attractive

than all these skinny girls who he said

looked like men

so this is where i started to see some

similarities

the character that he's playing his

mannerisms and

i mean even the plot uh reminds me of

uh vincent gallo in buffalo 66.

sure yeah because you know he kidnaps

this girl and

starts to fall in love with her and just

the you know he's sort of down on this

luck kind of guy and

you know even the accent is kind of

similar that's true

it's called reverse stockholm syndrome

yeah

where you fall in love with your captor

or as maybe that's like a

florence nightingale situation yeah but

uh

either way he's he's very flirtatious

when he's telling her that

she's perfectly attractive and doesn't

need to uh

to diet for anything uh we see sergeant

barnes

played by dan hodea at the precinct

where tennelly is trying to get

boyd booked and he notices him from

across the counter he's like

oh hold on i got this guy i'm going to

take care of him

and then i was super confused when we

first introduced this character because

of that reaction because he

just has this crazy he has this look on

his face his eyes are just

wide and i cannot tell what emotion he

has

in mind here because i don't know

if he's like this is my best friend and

i'm gonna go give him a hug or i'm going

to murder this man yeah

and it seems like boyd noticed him first

because boyd's got his hand over his

face

like he's like totally blocking himself

like oh god no please don't notice me

and he's like yeah i'll take this guy

and uh

and he walks up to boyd and he says hey

we're going to go we got to go fill out

your processing paperwork and he's like

what the [ __ ] are you pulling tanelli

said that

he said don't mean [ __ ] around here and

he's like i hope to god i was going to

see you again and then he drags him off

into this side room

see i was still confused at this point

because i was like oh maybe

maybe they're really good friends and

he's helping him out and he's gonna like

get him out the back door

and then he pulls him into the side room

and just starts wailing on him

yeah i can't think of a time where dan

hidea didn't play a complete psychopath

so i was pretty sure this was gonna end

poorly

remember at the end of clueless when he

murders that girl he's not a psychopath

of that movie he's a wonderful man

anyway uh so he drags boyd into this

side room

and through his complaints to boyd we

learned that

the reason that boyd is no longer with

the police department is because he's a

whistleblower

and one of the people that he knocked on

was this cop

who apparently was like molesting

prisoners

and this guy's really mad at boyd

because that got him in hot water with

his wife

he still gets to be a police officer

though so that's nice

but the two of them argue for a while

and then it devolves into a fist fight

even though boyd is trying really hard

not to fight this guy

but uh eventually he's like okay fine i

guess i'm not gonna i don't have any

other option i gotta knock you

completely unconscious here

very quickly turns the fight around

drops him on the ground breaks a chair

over his chest

and because he's a police officer and

knows his way around this precinct

he's able to like sneak out a back door

but

as soon as he gets outside his ex-wife

is pulling up because they told her to

come down to the station to talk to him

and he just tells her get back in the

car i'm gonna get in the car with you

pull away slowly

so they start driving down the street

and she wants information

what's going on what happened they said

that they had kathy

and uh immediately she's outright

blaming him for her having been

kidnapped

ever since the divorce that he lives in

this shitty neighborhood

and everything would be fine if she just

stayed with her mom

they scream it out for a while until

she's completely in tears and he's just

like

just pull the car over just let me get

out of the car he's like shouting at her

calling her an erotic [ __ ]

and everything but at this point she's

not even arguing back

she's just lost the will to fight about

it well she's just in

just a complete panic about her kid but

also

just being yelled at by this guy who who

is now getting very angry and calling

her things and it's just like oh

what was the grounds of this divorce we

don't know yet the grounds of this

divorce was that he wasn't making any

money because he

refused to put up with what the police

were doing to prisoners

she's mad at him for losing the cop job

and

he that kind of comes up here he goes to

the window and says

you know i i obviously i would i would

still be working as a cop

if everything had you know gone by the

books and

people have been doing the right thing

and she said oh you couldn't look the

other way you couldn't look the other

way for five seconds while people make

money everybody's trying to make money

in the city

and uh this is where we realize that

she's a terrible person

and she's mad at him for doing the right

thing

and so he tells her you know what why

don't you just go and stay with your

sister for a while and i'm going to

handle this yeah that that was a weird

thing to say go stay with your sister

it's like

what does she i assume she has her own

place

yeah i think but i think she needs to be

comforted in this

i don't have time to help you you go

find someone else that can help you

and i'm gonna help kathy because i don't

need anyone's help right now i'm just

trying to do something

we cut to the interior of the the actual

rich family's

home i don't know what you would call

they own the whole building that they

live in and sweet sweet sure

and uh we established that it takes

two minutes to trace a phone call

i like it because he wants to test the

line when yeah

when they say that and i don't really

understand how

tracing you know phone calls work

because he dials

out to his home and then says okay i

want to try it out and he dials out to

his home and he starts talking to his

wife about wedding plans for their

daughter again yeah

and and he's like okay cool this worked

great

and i'm like wait how do you know

because first of all you haven't been on

the phone for two minutes you didn't

ask the guy what it sounded like oh okay

because

like there's no he didn't even give you

your address

yeah but it's funny too because when

he's talking to her he's like he's like

careful careful there's people listening

in

and then and then you could tell that

she's asking for some other thing

that they need to spend more money on

for the wedding and he's like wrong

goodbye and he hangs up the phone wrong

goodbye i just love that as his like

catchphrase cause multiple times when

he's talking to him he's like

no no we're not i'm not even supposed to

spend any money on the

on the wedding shower that's not

supposed to be the father's job

i pay for the wedding and we don't need

we don't need all this catering we could

just

give them pasta and uh and crackers or

something like that

and then they keep trying to get more

money and he's just wrong wrong

goodbye and hangs up the phone yeah so

they're sitting in this room

and now that it seems like the trace

should work fine he stands up and he's

like all right well i gotta get head

back to the station

and the father of this family who their

kid hasn't been kidnapped their kid is

in the room it's not that big an

emergency

for them because there's a bunch of cops

in their house and their kid is fine

but the father says wait where are you

going and he says i'm headed back to the

station we got four bomb threats today

from this

the mad puerto rican bombers that are

going all around the town and he said

why aren't you assigned to this case and

he's like yeah i'm assigned to a bunch

of cases

what does that have to do with anything

and he's like well look i pay more

taxes to the city than everybody in your

whole precinct does in a year so

i think i'm entitled to some

consideration

meaning what look if i don't care if you

know somebody higher up if

if you do ask him to give me a raise

because i don't have time for this it

doesn't help me that you know these

people

i'm gonna head out and he starts to walk

away and that's when the phone rings

before he can even leave the apartment

which i was hoping he would just be like

while the phone's ringing he's like

all right anyway yeah just uh you guys

handle that i'm gonna head down to the

station

but the phone's ringing so he stops and

he comes back the mother answers the

phone

and it's ketchup and he asks her if

she has uh what is it

oh prince albert you can't you have

prince alvarez my note at this point was

rich person joke question mark no it's

it's the joke is supposed to be you're

supposed to call a store

and ask if they have prince albert in a

can you don't call an individual's house

and ask when you call a house you ask if

there are refrigerators running

and then when they say yes you say well

you better go catch it

but would you you're supposed to call

like a tobacconist or a pharmacy and say

do you have prince albert in a can which

is a

tobacco product and then when they say

that they do

then you say well let him out it'll

suffocate and then you hang up and

that's a hilarious joke

but it doesn't make any sense to call an

individual's home and ask if they have

it

is that what it is i thought it was some

sort of dessert

no prince albert in a can is it's like a

chew tobacco

okay using it with something else

because i was like is this just

something that only rich people would

have why does he think this is so funny

that's why it doesn't make any sense to

call them but he's just

like bart simpson all grown up and he

thinks it's funny to prank all these

people in the middle of this

but it reminded me of when i fell in

love with dwayne the rock johnson

which is when he hosted saturday night

live the first time and he played

superman

do you remember that sketch so he is

clark kent

and uh he's at the daily planet and

you can see like the superman suit like

peeking up out of his

out of the neck of his shirt and

everyone keeps like asking him questions

about superman because everyone in the

office knows they're all just pretending

they don't know that he's superman to

see how he screws up these questions

like for example at one point they're

like oh man i heard that superman's

totally gay and he's like

what no i heard he's like a really

straight guy i mean sure he experimented

a little back in smallville and they're

like oh my god i was just joking

but uh then at the end they they're like

oh why don't we why don't we play a

prank on him and so they call his desk

somebody says hey everybody i just heard

over the police scanner a tobacco store

downtown has prince albert in a can

someone's kidnapped the prince boy

i'm tired i i think that i will uh

go to bed now okay then clark but we'll

tell you what happened to the prince

oh i think he'll be just fine lois just

fine

and then it just cuts too like this

newspaper spins to the camera it says

innocent tobacconist murdered this is

just a picture of superman with his arms

up like oops

but uh that sketch kills me tinelli

takes over

because he he's pretending now to be the

father of the child

and the kidnapper knows who mr clayton

is but he doesn't like know his voice

apparently luckily because

this guy sounds nothing like the man

he's impersonating

and he says he's talking very slowly

because he's trying to stretch this call

out long enough to trace it

and i timed it by the way it was two

minutes and five seconds so it should

have been long enough to trade yeah

especially with that prince albert and a

can bit yeah right but they they did not

uh successfully trace the call here

he tells him oh how do i know where he

says what are you going to do to my kid

or

how are you going to get my kid that's

what he says how are you going to get my

kid

and he says well i'm gonna i'm gonna cut

her up like

he misunderstands the question like yeah

how are you gonna hurt my kid

and uh he says i got her sitting right

here in front of me he's like oh you got

her right there huh

how do i know you have my kid

and uh and then he realizes that there's

definitely a kid here but

he just grabbed the wrong kid on

accident and it should have been obvious

at this point but

he hasn't put it together that this is

boyd's kid well he he does he does

after the phone call yeah yeah he's

still very confused about it

and trying not to give away that they

have the wrong kid because if this guy

realizes he's got the wrong kid he'll

just murder her here in this house and

leave

like if yeah there's no benefit for him

to keep her alive

because no one's gonna give them a

million dollars for someone else's kid

which is

part of the plot of that macgyver

episode that suddenly

mayan bialik is like but dad it's my

best friend and he's like well when i

thought it was you that was kidnapped i

was ready to pay the money but

it's not you it's somebody else's kid

that's not my responsibility

but the police still give him the money

yeah but we don't know what the deal is

with that money that's true

are you talking about the macgyver

episode no this

well this isn't real money do they do

they say that yeah

okay there's a there's a it's really

subtle they're actually um

when they're putting the money together

one of the cops is um

burning one of the bills and they're

like god guys cut it out you know like

stop

stop messing around with that stuff it's

because it's fake money

i i saw that and i didn't understand

what was going on

thank you i thank you for your service

no i i i i am putting it together now

at the end of the call he says well why

don't you put her on the phone and he's

like like hell i'm gonna put her on the

phone and he hangs up

and he's like you know what he's got a

girl there

i bet he's got boyd's girl and uh we cut

back to

barnes who is following boyd because

boyd is still

on route from the police station and

he's headed to the porno store where he

saw

ketchup drop something that the girl

collected so

somehow barnes knows exactly where he's

going and

maybe maybe he said earlier when he was

talking to him like i saw

i saw him drop something at this yeah he

didn't say that yeah okay so

that's that's how he knows where to go

but boyd gets there first obviously

um and he goes inside and he

puts his quarter in the in the booth and

the window comes up and he's talking to

this new dancer and trying to explain

what happened this morning but she's not

listening at all

because they probably try very hard not

to listen to anything that the people

are saying

um and he notices the girl that he's

looking for like two booths over

and so he goes to the next booth with

his next coin and puts it in and tries

to get her attention and i would not be

handling those

phones yeah like he's just so quick to

pick pick it up and put it to his ear

daughter is missing oh you have children

richard you are his ear is going to be

missing tomorrow

when all the diseases is on that will

put you up

to get your kid back but uh

so he finally gets to a phone that's

closer to the the woman that he wants to

talk to

but it's still a different girl in the

same chamber that's talking to him

and so he tells he tells her i need to

talk to that girl over there and finally

gets the message through what's going on

um and this the shorter-haired girl who

actually picked the thing up off the

street comes to the phone

and she's like oh he's got your girl oh

that's okay you'll find another one and

he's like you know what i'm saying and

it's like i don't think she does

explain that your daughter was kidnapped

[Music]

start using the word daughter use the

word kidnapped girl

it implies kid yeah but uh

but the girl puts the phone down on the

other side and walks away

so he puts another coin in and it's the

the girl that he doesn't want to talk to

again

and he says no get her you i have to

talk to her go get

her and she says why don't you get her

yourself and then she

puts the phone down and walks away from

the window which i don't think you could

do

he paid his money you're supposed to

stay by this window naked

but he notices before the window closes

completely that he he notices this guy's

working in the back of their

their chamber where they're stuck i

don't know what would you call it this

capsule glass case of emotion and uh

and so he walks around through like an

employee entrance

and finds the path into this room where

these girls are dancing

and he grabs the one with short hair and

starts shouting in her face

to get this information and to get this

this clue that was dropped outside

i think this is the only moment where i

don't think i would have done that

because

this is asking to get yourself murdered

yeah walking in there

like they have body guards at these

places like nobody's business i don't

know what other choice he had other than

just keep putting quarters in and trying

to get the same girl back on the phone

and it seemed like they had given up on

him

so the other option would be to just

hang out by the door until she came out

at the end of the day

so i think this was probably the right

move but he is immediately getting

beaten down by security and thrown out

but they also call police like right

right as this is happening and burns is

also getting there so

barnes by himself is in one car and a

squad car of police is coming at the

same time

and right as he's getting thrown towards

the entrance he sees the cops coming and

so he leans against the wall and

kind of covers his face so the cops all

run past him

and before he completely leaves the

short haired girl comes back with

what was dropped which it turns out was

a medallion

and like a dog license or like some kind

of pet license

which for some reason she felt like

keeping i don't know why yeah he would

have kept it but

and i thought it was worth something and

somehow in all the commotion understood

why he was there what's going on she was

playing dumb earlier i guess

and but either way now she seems to

understand what's happening and she's

like

here's here's what you were asking for

yeah i don't know what inspired this

change of heart but

he turns around and he's like okay well

i'll take this dog license to a shelter

and maybe they'll have an address on

file or something

now now is when barnes just opens fire

into the crowd yeah thank god

barnes pulls up and he parks his car and

he just jumps out with a shotgun

and it's just running around like a

crazy person he's he's in plain clothes

he's not wearing a police uniform

and he's just leveling this shotgun like

across the street

and shooting at it like he blows up a

hot dog stand

crowds of people he's firing it into

storefronts

and all kinds of stuff eventually he

gets stopped by another team of police

officers who are like

what are you doing you can't just shoot

that shotgun like that well they're

about to arrest him and he pulls out his

badge

and then suddenly that makes it all okay

but it's like

that's crazy they wouldn't let him do

that he would be in the back of one of

these cars

after that yeah it's insane all the

stuff that was happening in the scene

because

he he keeps telling him to stop

but then shoots anyway yeah when he

stops like if boyd had stopped

you would have just murdered him so and

even when the cops pull up they're like

what did he even have i didn't even see

a gun like where you weren't shooting at

an unarmed person were you because

that's obviously against the rules

yeah you can't do that we see tineli

speaking with a guy about coordinating a

rescue attempt

ketchup has decided that the handoff

will happen at this rock and roll

concert

because it's a crowded venue that he

thinks he can sneak in and out of

covertly

the guy is telling tonelli well this is

perfect there's these

high points where we can stage shooters

and he's like no i don't know if you

heard

there's a kid involved here i'm not

going to put a kid in the crossfire

we'll just aim a little higher well then

we gotta aim a little high you know

well what's happening here though is

that we have two

different factions here trying to solve

this problem

we have the guy that's getting pressure

from

like the mayor's office yeah from the

mayor's office who is obviously trying

to appease the

rich family because you know that guy is

concerned

that his daughter's gonna get kidnapped

yeah that his daughter is in danger and

they want to take this guy out at all

costs like he doesn't care about this

other little girl just take this guy out

so he's no longer a threat to my family

and then we have to nelly who's like

we could just arrest you can't do this

and not put this girl in harm's way yeah

we have we have to

we have to just protect this child i

don't care who's

paying off whom yeah and uh the two of

them go up to the high point

in the in the stairwell nearby and he

says

why don't you give my people a chance to

take care of this before your shooters

come in

and cause a massacre he's like if you

start firing a gun around here there's

going to be a riot and he's like

eh these kids are all doped up nobody's

going to riot

though he does he does right here say to

the musician who's going on stage

no matter what happens just keep playing

loud

we get more an extension of this creepy

subplot

with ketchup telling kathy to go put on

a dress that he has

so she comes out wearing this like

purple dress that's obviously way too

big for her

and does he say it was his mother's

dress yeah it was his mom's

and uh he tells her she looks really

pretty in it

she tells ketchup that her dad was a

policeman and that he's confused

and he thinks oh now you're trying to

scare me into thinking your dad's a cop

like

you're wasting your time i'm not gonna

fall for this we see boyd getting to the

animal shelter

and he's trying to get information from

this dog tag and

the two people there are being pretty

helpful and they they managed to like

dig out this paperwork that might have

an address on it but before he can

fully get into it uh barnes is there

because i guess he heard from

the stripper that there was a dog

license involved i don't

i don't i'm not clear on how he knew to

go to this shelter

uh yeah that's unless he literally

followed him the whole way there

which is possible but i i think he must

have gone back to the parlor and talked

to

that stripper and was like well i don't

have the information but i know where he

would go to

to translate this dog tag into an

address so i'll go there and

meet him there he he storms into the

office

before they can give boyd the paperwork

with an address

and he has him at gunpoint and is

walking him back to his squad car

when boyd like spins around and pushes

him over a fence

which is at waist height on this side of

the fence but on the other side it's

like

six feet tall so he goes

completely over the fence but his pants

catch on the top of the fence so now

he's hanging upside down

into a dog cage and the dogs are just

being

yeah they're very aggressive dobermans

and rottweilers

and they just run up and start chewing

on his arms and legs and

and he's freaking out they're biting his

face and eventually the

the guy who runs this shelter is able to

get over there with a hose

and wash the dogs away from him but uh

he's pretty messed up and boyd is like

suggesting that they call an ambulance

for him

and that's the last we see at him yeah

he's not in the rest of the movie

that was that's that's dead yeah

but maria the woman who is running this

shelter or an employee of this shelter

uh is very invested in the story and

decides that she's going to go with him

so so invested

is she in the story is that she's in the

imdb synopsis

yeah she's totally adorable i i love

when she's gorgeous

yeah yeah she's and i was hoping that

there was going to be like this

budding relationship happening there

they don't really take it anywhere but

she's totally adorable but when she

comes in she's like so

she's so invested in helping that she's

like uh don't worry about the overtime i

already clocked out like she's yeah

she's literally doing this pro bono

right she's just ready to help because

she really wants

to find this a little girl yeah i like

my next note

like what the hell did i write this note

they run

a foul of a puerto rican gang yeah

i was like why did i write it that way

that sounds like the way you talk um

very suddenly they are surrounded by

this puerto rican gang

uh who i think they're originally just

like cat-calling the girl

even though brolin is with her well

that's why they're mad at her

they're really mad because it's it's one

of their girls that he's got

oh okay so they're chasing him because

they don't think that's right it's a

west side story scenario but immediately

he pushes her into a cab

so that he can get her to safety before

he starts dealing with these guys

and he does the classic like punch one

guy turn and punch another guy

and kind of push yourself back from this

crew

and uh immediately starts running down

the street to this cab that's still

driving away

and she opens the door for him to hop in

but the gang is in pursuit

ketchup calls clayton again and tells

them that uh

he's gonna he's gonna have a knife to

the girl's throat tonight when he goes

to get the money so don't try anything

stupid

someone drops something in the room

while they're trying to trace this call

and ketchup gets really paranoid about

it he puts the girl on the phone so that

she can beg for her life

it gets real for everybody there and i'm

sure the guy that knocked the thing over

got chewed out as soon as this phone

call ends

we go back to boyd who is now

at the address or near the address where

ketchup lives

and he's talking to some of his

neighbors you know he found

the address and name of this guy right

the dog place

maybe we could use his name instead of

ketchup now we learn

right here what his actual name is so i

can now officially replace ketchup with

colonel mustard no uh yeah gus

zoltig is the guy's name but some of his

neighbors know him as mole man

because he works in the tunnels under

under central park oh he's

crazy so do you think i i was wondering

if he

is just crazy or if his if his family

did

own a bunch of property over there and

that's what his grudge is because

i could imagine that he's also just a

total crazy person he doesn't actually

none of that stuff is true yeah he's

just living in that building and he's

been living there since his mom died

that's totally possible um i don't know

why he waited until now to kidnap a

guy's daughter

i would have done that a long time ago

i would have done that please don't

kidnap people

the street gang catches back up with

them so boyd starts running full speed

towards what they pointed out as mole

man's building

now he's mole man they chase him through

the wreckage of all these

destroyed skyscrapers and boyd actually

spots mole man

and his daughter as their uh

i was a little confused by the fact that

they were running uh

away from his building now because he's

like hey i'm gonna meet you guys at nine

o'clock you bring the money

it's very early and then it's yeah it's

still broad daylight

and and he's like literally running as

fast as he can with this girl

not even having known he was being

chased yet he's running as fast as he

can with this girl i think they have to

move fast in public

because he's worried about someone i

think that's more

suspicious to be running through a pile

of rubble with a little girl

that's probably true but boyd sees them

and he realizes that's

that's the mole man and his daughter and

uh then the gang shows up

and so he's in a very uncomfortable

situation they pull a knife

as his daughter is getting put on this

train and

it's pulling out of the station and so

he climbs out over a ledge to get away

from this gang

but one of them climbs down after him

and so the two of them are on this like

very narrow lip of a platform on the

outside of the railing

and he kicks the guy down and i'm pretty

sure this guy dies

um he just lays there when he hits the

ground yeah he falls flat on his back on

concrete

and probably dies but immediately

there's a bunch of police showing up

because i guess they're kind of trailing

him in general

um but also to deal with this murder and

uh

boyd kind of bluffs his way through the

cops yeah it pretends like that he's

like undercover

and one cop goes are you playing close

guys with your long hair and your beards

yeah um but him and maria get on either

side of a squad car

and then he tells her to just get in and

then he drives it off before he leaves

he calls it in on the radio

that the the kidnapper is on this train

with his daughter

and uh while he's calling this in on the

radio some of the other gang members are

like

grabbing really roughly at maria yeah

but he's not doing anything about it

like he's

he's looking directly at this happening

and doesn't seem to react to it at all

it just bothered me his daughter has

been kidnapped yeah trick but

you you got two hands you got one for

the radio and then one to punch the

badge or other cops around

here they should be dealing with it but

either way it just bothered me a little

bit that he's looking right at it

happening like

at least have it happening behind his

back or something but uh

either way he calls it in before they

steal this car

and uh we see he's not calling it in

he's trying to find

tonelli tineli and he's to let him know

right and he finds out that tennelly's

on

a stakeout and he's like what do you

mean steak out and they're like at a

concert

you know and so like he gets all this

information as to where he's supposed to

go

now and so now he knows probably where

where gus is going with his daughter

right but he knows that they that he's

got extra information that they don't

have

yeah but he pulls up in this police car

at the concert

at tonality's like i gotta arrest you

man why'd you come to me like this is

stupid

we're gonna do this over and over again

i'm trying to get your daughter back can

you just give me a break

and he says this guy he works on the

tunnels he's gonna come out of that

tunnel

your sharpshooters aren't going to do

you any good because you know they're

under the ground they're under the

ground they're under the ground

they're under the ground they're under

the ground

it's a tremors reference yeah i got it

you can't get penetration even with the

elephant gun

speaking of gun gus shoots a guy gus

shoots a guy

what does he shoot a guy yeah so he

comes up he

uh he makes his way through the tunnels

uh

with kathy and oh right he comes up

after they've made the money drop

yes uh to steal the money and the and uh

right as he's doing

that tennelli is calling in to warn

the guy that's inside the building

that's gonna shoot the guy

if he walks in uh he's he's calling to

warn him and the radio goes off and so

he

he turns gus turns around and shoots the

guy yeah

and actually hits him um and then

tineli runs in to help the guy that got

shot

where boyd goes down to pursue after

picking up the guy's gun

yeah gus into the hole this is where as

he's running away

gus shouts i'm gonna keep her i'm gonna

keep her

and he's like doing it in this

sing-songy way

i'm gonna keep her

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according to the imdb trivia the line

here was originally i'm gonna

[ __ ] her and they were like that's way

too dark for this movie

yeah which i feel like so dark in fact

that i don't even believe that was the

original line

but well i think we had to sell that he

was actually a juggler so we have to

have these clowny moments

yeah but he's he's being very jokery

yeah yeah

that's one of my notes he's like he's

got a fantastic joker laugh yeah he does

um but uh tanelli's talking to this

injured shooter while

uh boyd is following them into this

tunnel kathy is begging the guy to let

her go

and she says she won't tell anybody but

it's like we've already established that

he knows your name and address and

everything about you that you're not

gonna go anywhere

well also that they already know

everything about him

so she doesn't need to tell anybody

because they already know

but he's also completely trapped in this

fantasy now

where he's like oh you don't understand

your father's just going to ruin things

for us

and then he leans forward and kisses her

and she's like

why'd you do that like she's like hasn't

even noticed that he was interested in

her romantically until she did that

yes and there was a whole subplot in a

subplot but there's a couple times where

she keeps bringing up that a boy will

never kiss her

and i was like oh so that was that's

nice oh that's sweet

this is gonna be a really fun

conversation when people ask you about

your first kiss later

no well ketchup the mole man kissed me

in a cave once

my next good notice here gus blows off

some steam yeah

boyd is closing in those are fantastic

for this one zoltan is shooting at him

repeatedly

but he's either bulletproof or very fast

and uh

yeah mole man opens up the steam and

i think it's like literally just boiling

hot steam

yeah but then boyd just starts opening

fire

into the steam cloud it's like yeah

daughter's in there dude

yeah he doesn't seem to care a whole lot

but

he grabs this big piece of metal he like

breaks a metal door off of uh

some sort of a cabinet here that is

housing some electrical equipment

and he uses it like a shield to run

through the steam which

actually would move around the object

pretty easily

because it's gaseous and uh but he runs

through all the steam

and uh mole man rigs

this open pit to electrocute him not

clear on how

this entire thing functions but somehow

boyd falls right into it and is

electrocuted

but manages to well he's getting zapped

when he lands in it

is he oh okay but he gets out of it i

know that

there's zapping happening but i thought

he hit something into there

like he didn't go in but something went

in there and so they thought he was

being electrocuted i think we see him

fall into it at first

and reacting to being electrocuted but

then we cut to the girl just hearing the

electricity sounds

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and we're supposed to think that this

terrible thing is happening to this guy

but it turns out that he somehow he

landed in it in a way that he could

actually get out of it

and he does boyd gets to him and just

starts beating the [ __ ] out of him in

this huge caged rum

yeah like they have a fight but one of

their one of their both

both of their signature moves is to

choke each other face wise like

they have their hands wrapped around

each other's faces and they're just

squeezing the face yes

there's a slight squeeze that's a

typical move effective fighting move

yeah

it's like it's like the mountain

fighting uh the guy in game of thrones

crushes his skull but uh mole man

loses it here he starts swinging this

chain it's very dark it's hard to make

out what's happening here

yeah um and mole man seems convinced

that

given the choice kathy would choose him

over her own father

and uh as soon as boyd realizes that

he's that crazy

he tells her oh just climb that ladder

and leave

and she's like well he's got a gun and

he said he's going to shoot me he's like

yeah no he's 100 in love with you so you

could just go he's not going to shoot

you because he's in love with you

and mole man please with her to stay but

he's just like just

go climb on up to the top and just climb

out and you'll be fine

and uh and he's right she climbs the

whole way to the top and out

and eventually mulman turns to shoot

boyd but he's

out of bullets boyd finally puts the guy

down

with uh with his second gun that still

has bullets

and uh as they're climbing out of the

hole kathy says

i still don't want to go back to mommy

so she's just like so you know even

though i got kidnapped this is still

better than the average day with mom

this is still better than living in

connecticut and i kissed a boy

and that's the end of our film uh i said

before director robert butler

took over from sydney fury he uh most of

his credits are like tv stuff hill

street blues remington steel

a bunch of episodes of magical world of

disney sydney fury who took over

has much cooler credits he did iron

eagles one two and four

yeah he directed ladybugs wait so he

didn't do aces

no iron eagle three is that the best one

i've never seen any of those

i mean three is the the is a it's a good

one

they're all kind of cool okay i need to

see those eventually

oh yeah maybe we should do a podcast

where we watch every movie that ever

came out

we did a center marathon of all of yeah

i missed it that was the one i chose i

think it was on

super bowl sunday or something when you

guys did that oh was it

there was something like that uh the

ladybugs he directed that movie

nice um he directed the appaloosa

and he directed superman four which is

that's the quest for peace

and that's actually a golden globus

production um

the writer here william norton he wrote

white lightning and gator that double

feature that i keep talking about

sitting down to watch he also wrote big

bad mama one and two with angie

dickinson those sound promising

yeah the other writer rick natkin he

doesn't have a lot of credits but he

appears as himself in a documentary

that's currently shooting

about sydney fury and about his career

the novelist william mcgivern he has

story and teleplay credits on kojak

fritz lang's big heat was adapted from

his saturday evening post serials

and he also wrote the screenplay for

william castles i saw what you did

which as you would guess is very similar

to i know what you did last summer in

terms of plot

but it's like it's not like oh you

murdered someone it's like oh you're

trying to play a prank and someone got

killed on it on accident as a result of

your prank

james brolin here is sean boyd he was

john blaine in westworld george lutz in

the first amityville horror

he's charles brubacher and capricorn one

and he's thanos's dad

and a lot of other stuff julie carmen

was maria

this was her first feature she'll be

back later this year in gloria as

jerry dawn she had an appearance on the

famed television series

she was regine dandridge in fright night

part two

she's linda styles in the mouth of

madness and in 2000 she was actually

reunited with cliff gorman the titular

juggler

for a movie called king of the jungle

yeah she's i mean she's still working

um but uh she really is gorgeous she

looks like she could be you know a bond

girl or something

the character of styles it was the one

that that stood out to me was yeah

it's like oh yeah what year is that

movie in the mouth of madness 94. oh it

was much later than i thought

yeah it's going to be a while richard s

castellano was lieutenant to nelly

he was clemenza in the godfather movies

uh he has the famous line

leave the gun take the cannoli uh he was

played by bruno kirby in the second

film's flashbacks

and uh what a weird it's a weird choice

yeah

and apparently he was a nephew to paul

castellano who

was the gambino crime family boss for a

while

linda miller was barbara boyd here

that's the ex-wife she plays veronica

van cook

in too many cooks that was the only

credit i thought was worth bringing up

barton heyman plays the preacher hold on

when you say too many cooks

are you rooftop too many cooks okay just

double checking too many cooks can

spoil the broth

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make it takes a pinch of salt and left

or two

a scoop of kids to add the spices

love to make it nice and you've got

too many cooks too many

[Music]

martin heyman played the preacher uh he

was dr klein and the exorcist

and dr rifkin in cruising earlier this

year

abby bluestone was kathy boyd the girl

that was chubby from little darlings

and this is her second and last imdb

credit so she didn't work after these

two movies

maybe this one was too traumatizing who

knows

dan hideo was sergeant otis barnes um

i like him in blood simple i like him in

everything

that he's in like i don't really know

any bad dan hideo no

there really isn't and he basically

plays the exact same character in

clueless at night at the roxbury

i'm convinced that steve and doug

boutabi are just like step siblings of

cher

from clueless because he's just like a

rich dad who lives in beverly hills and

is embarrassed by his children in both

movies

he's in like the adams family joe versus

the volcano alien

uh which which alien movie is in i think

he's an alien uh resurrection

yeah you remember fatal fatal farm that

the weird like

visual effects animation fatal frame

fatal is it fatal frame or fatal farm i

thought it was fatal farm

or is it fatal frame i think fatal frame

is a video game

i think you're right it is farm but

maybe it's yeah like they're like like

visual effects artists

they didn't know the star trek ones that

they did yeah but they did this really

great one where it's the opening to the

monsters

but every time one of the characters

comes up they just stamp danny's

face on it and because they just says

keep saying it as dana

as such so

they put his face on every character

from the monsters yeah from the opening

and i was like oh this is this is

wonderful i want to see that

we had mandy patinkin in here as

alessandro the cabbie

see and he had a name i know this is

absolutely the best character in this

entire movie for someone who's on screen

for two and a half minutes oh we didn't

mention the other cab

driver who helps him too the the woman

like she

she helps him out a lot too i don't

remember that

uh towards the end she's the one that

drives him away from the gang that's

attacking them yeah oh okay and she

takes them to the right neighborhood

and gets them helped out and she's

explaining to him the

the socio-economic situation and why

they hate him

yeah yes uh mandy patinkin was obviously

inigo montoya and princess bride

he's saul berenson on homeland and he

was 88 keys and dick tracy

and my favorite role of well not my

favorite role of his because my favorite

role is obviously the total spread

but aside from the princess pride i love

him in dead like me

yeah it's great he was like the guy who

was teaching him the ropes yes

exactly tony azito was the peep show

cashier

which we don't see much of him but he

played digit adams

do you know who digit adams is i i

imagine he's one of the adams families

one of the adams family

that is that the the dance when they're

trying

yeah um he's the one with really tall

hair and forearms

okay um but yeah uh i pulled up a

picture of it i was like oh i totally

remember this character

uh richard gantt was the cop at the

hospital who caught him trying to sneak

out with the

with the stuff over his head he played

melville in mindy project

which you watched some of right yes he's

like a guy who's in charge of like

keeping track of their money and their

expenditures at the hospital and

everything

um sure he also played hostetler

uh he played hostetler in deadwood

oh yeah yeah and uh he was jackson and

hood of horror

which is a credit that we share because

i did video assist on that movie that

snoop dogg

horror anthology thing um he plays the

older cop in

big lebowski when uh when he's talking

about

looks like that much hope for the tape

deck

or the credence he's the one who talks

about credence um this was his first

role actually um robert hodge was the

police sergeant

and he was also the desk sergeant in

windows i think he's the one who gets

the call from

talia shire and she's like oh tell him i

called and then hangs up

like uh who called i'm wondering if he's

an actual police officer

i wouldn't be surprised because

sometimes like when these

when they play more than one i don't

know if

it feels like when when you get cast as

a cop you're just going to play a cop

forever

and you probably like have some of the

uniform or some of the regular stuff and

they're like

you like original phil johnson yeah

exactly ghostbusters

but he actually was a cop people forget

that no that's not true

uh stevenwood played dietz i don't know

who that was in here um he was the the

trigger happy guy at the concert who was

like

i'll put a couple of my shooters up

there and we'll get him in the crossfire

okay um he played francois lafitte in

fame

the guy who uh molested coco um

he also played martino in cruising so

we've had him twice already this year

church ortiz played gang member

so we all remember gang member right he

played luis in defiance

uh he was one of the grocery store

robbers in hero at large

and uh he'll be back as worker number

one in xanadu later this year so

it's like four extra rolls but we just

happen to have covered most of them

he'll also play flacco in police academy

too

steve ryan was the fifth avenue cop

that's the cop that

meets him outside of the bank or

whatever at the very beginning of the

movie

when he's telling him oh tell my

daughter that she can get whatever

wedding dress she wants steve ryan

played j walter weatherman

in arrested development that's the guy

with one arm who until

like she constantly uses to prank her

innocent children would still have his

arm why

oh my god that's why you

always leave a note

uh robert weil played the hot dog vendor

he's a mail room boss in hudsucker proxy

and he plays bobo in moonstruck

oh so uh i wonder if he's the one

who's uh okay i know i know which one he

is now and like cut sucker

i had to run through some of the

characters in the mail room because one

of those characters is blue you're my

boy blue

yeah um ancient sorter i think is his

credit

yeah and then aristis matassina is the

man at the peep show

he's uncredited but he plays the mafia

don nico

in the mask that's the guy who's like

dorian's boss who owns the coco bunga

club

and then dorian turns on him at the end

when he gets the mask uh

but uh also uh we didn't talk about gus

glyph gorman

the the right man yeah did he have a lot

of other credits

uh he has a lot of credits but i don't

really know any of them yeah i think

that was why i left him off

yeah like all that jazz he was in ghost

dog

oh really yeah the jim jarmusch one with

the forest exactly um but yeah like

other than that like i didn't really

recognize

too many things like things that stood

out like a lot of tv

and uh but yeah the i guess ghost dog

would be the one that

people would know but i don't remember i

don't know that movie

it's good it's it's forest whitaker is

he's basically thinks like he's a

samurai like he's read into all the

teachings of the samurai and

he's trying to implement them but he

lives in america and present day

and uh it's interesting it's worth

looking at

but yeah i enjoyed this movie i think

it's it stayed very fast-paced the whole

time

um and it stays believable pretty much

the whole time

yeah that's that's the thing that i like

is

you're right it's super believable i

think that is a credit to

the fact that we do all this character

development with all these side

characters everybody feels

like they have motivations and they make

the kinds of choices that you are going

to make if you were in this situation

uh so it's just it's a really fun

movie where you're you're high high

action

uh high drama uh good acting

it's well shot i honestly wish it had a

blu-ray release because

i was really disappointed at the end

when it's so dark you can't see what's

happening

it's like we need a good scan of this i

also think that uh

it would be really hard in in most

situations to make it

believable that a person could slip

through the

hands of the police department so many

times on the same day but because he's

an ex-cop

and because he knows his way around

these places and he's developed these

relationships with these different

people

every time it happens you're like yeah i

could see that happening in the real

world

a combination of just the directing and

the and smart writing i think

really makes makes everything work

really well it would be really easy to

screw this up

and we mentioned it before but the way

that macgyver episode ends is really

disappointing

like they try to make it as happy and

ending as possible so

not not only does the guy not get killed

but he's getting arrested

at the end of it but the his qualm isn't

that his building is going to get

destroyed it's that

the the rich father laid off a bunch of

factory workers

we never see the poor the poor girls

family we just see the rich girls family

really

i mean we see them momentarily but it's

mostly dealing with the rich family and

the the existential quandary of oh do we

pay to save this

other these other people's kid but not

only do they pay the money

and arrest the guy but the father agrees

to reopen all the factories that he shut

down and operate them at a loss

because his daughter was like but you

promised that

murderer that you would reopen the

factory before he went

into the police car he's like yeah but

i'm not gonna do that that's dumb

sweetie

and she's like well you should do it

anyway and he's like okay fine

and so he agrees to do it at the end of

the episode it's just like oh great you

gave a bunch of people their jobs back

temporarily until the all the companies

come under

but um but this this handled it better i

thought just killed a guy

much better much happier up or down jess

oh it's a big up for me honestly this is

i would say this is the second surprise

gem of the year because

this and i'll say that i mean there's

other movies in 1980s i think are better

than this

but this is surprise gem in so much as i

had never heard of this movie before we

watched it

i never heard anybody talk about it i

the title was not familiar to me

and i i guarantee you in six months we

won't the title will still not be

familiar to you

you'll remember the movie that's

probably true but i went into it with

zero expectations and i i it took me

20 minutes in to just totally fall in

love i think this movie is fantastic

yeah richard oh boy you guys are going

to hate me

i was not in love with this movie no um

uh

i i thought it was okay i really don't

think it's

a watch uh that's fine richard does not

have children

um i i am going to rank it much higher

than you think

in the overall because i did enjoy it so

it's going on the top of my list

yeah but um but is it a must watch i i i

don't feel that it is i don't mean

i think edge of my seat for most of this

i think if you enjoy the take in movies

this is a good precursor to that

franchise i haven't seen any of the

taken movies

yeah you only need to see one take three

speaking of character i wanted to bring

that up because because you're right

about the character development

because in taken three forest whitaker

has this amazing character who

is always whenever he's deducing

something he's got a chess piece and

he's always holding it and rolling he's

like what's the story of that chess

piece i can't wait to find out

you never find out it was like

oh and he's always got like a rubber

band that he's if you want i can tell

you right now

he just brought it to set with him and

decided that was a part of his character

yeah and i can see forest whitaker doing

that as an

actor but it was really frustrating as

an audience member

to want to know what that meant i don't

know if it was his choice at all but

my favorite like character uh

thing that forrest ever brought to a

movie was in uh

good morning vietnam when he keeps like

driving the jeep backwards wrong

like the joke is that he just keeps

screwing up every time they get in the

jeep

but um i just remember every single time

it makes me laugh

but uh he's great so where does this go

on your list richard

uh i am going to put this uh

it's a thumbs up for me by the way i

didn't say that before right but uh i

i enjoyed this movie uh i'm gonna put it

it's a little bit above middle um i

think i'm gonna put it between

tom horn and the mountain men

okay so below tom horn so we're breaking

up the westerns a little bit yeah

jess uh so i put this pretty high

right now it is in let's see one two

three four

oh no i clicked a button oh god you're

not supposed to do that

it's in seventh place for me or sixth

place for me

uh which is between

seventh place was right between

forbidden zone and my brilliant career

so it is just below forbidden zone and

just above my brilliant career

all right you know despite my thumbs up

this

i i think it actually goes pretty low on

my list just because i really like a lot

of the stuff

in the top half of my list i think this

goes

uh just above to all a good night and

just below death ship

for me that's not very high for you no

it's not super high but i

actually liked both of those movies so

um

i think the problem is that i like like

85 percent of my list

it's really just like the bottom 10 that

suck

but yeah i think that's about it for

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