we're on a mission from god wendy so i got that going darling looks like i picked the wrong way to quit sniffing blue light of my life we enjoy your films i thought they smelled bad on the outside [Music] welcome to vintage video where we're re-watching the 80s so you don't have to we'll be reviewing every major film release of the 1980s in real time i'm patrick o'reilly i'm jesse bayless and i'm richard wells and today marks the 40th anniversary of mad magazine presents up the academy on june 6 1980 it was written by tom patchett and jay tarsus directed by howard stark himself robert downey senior and released by warner brothers say it again and released by warner brothers the film was shot entirely in selena kansas at st john's military school so anything i thought was los angeles was not the poster art was done by jack rickard or ricard not sure regular cover artist for mad magazine and occasional poster artist for films like the original pink panther film uptown saturday night starring sidney poitier holy moses which we'll discuss later this year and he also did an unused poster for 1980s serial which shares a cast member with this film rick baker did the makeup for the alfred e newman mascot that bookends the film which is really good it's super creepy but surprisingly accurate with the face just a little bit smaller than a normal face would be in the middle of this wide circular head it's kind of it's like a dick tracy character yeah there is one guy with a wide face in there right it kind of reminds me of when drop dead fred smashes his face in the refrigerator reminiscent of snl's charlie brown sketch or that time drop dead fred got his head stuck in the refrigerator that's what i have in my notes here um that's pretty incredible uh william gaines longtime publisher of mad magazine reportedly paid warner brothers thirty thousand dollars to cut the alfred e newman bookends and the word mad magazine presents out of the title for all the cable and tv rebroadcasts they were only added back for the dvd release after time warner bought warner brothers in keeping with tradition mad magazine even published a parody of their own movie retitled mad magazine resents throw up the academy and it's actually less funny than this movie somehow i don't think this was a parody of the movie itself i mean i guess no no i'm saying mad magazine published a parody of this in their magazine yeah no no i understand what you're saying okay i i guess it is a parody but i guess i think that parodies are meant to be like funny and homagi and this was just plain up we didn't like this and we are trying to inspire but it was definitely homaging the film it was referencing scenes from the film and a parody yeah that's 100 a parody all right fine but um after the failure of the film to connect with audiences madd did not reattempt live-action material until mad tv premiered 15 years later which i think was much better the original cast of mad tv was super funny there was actually really decent people on there star ron liebman had the good sense to demand his name be removed from the film after a very early screening this was rated r for the same reason as galaxina was which was to trick people into thinking there was boobs in it when there wasn't in the movie x-men apocalypse in 2016 a theater marquee can be seen screening this film despite the fact that apocalypse takes place in 1983 and no theater in their right mind would be playing this film a month after it came out this is because the actor who played oliver in up the academy was a producer on apocalypse and the former president of 20th century fox the film marks the first feature film appearance of karate kid ralph macchio in a very early uncredited role for iron man himself robert downey jr son of the film's director according to a tweet from mad magazine's official verified account on march 2nd of 2018 an a-list writer was actively painting a sequel to the film wait what i hope that doesn't actually happen that's got to be that's going to be a joke right it was on march 2nd so it seems early for that kind of a joke but yeah i don't really understand mad magazine jokes anyway so i guess that's true uh we start the film with chuch's dad dressing him down from behind a desk of a home office he seems a mafioso type and chooch is a disappointing son we get a weird jump cut mid-sentence from this character i don't know if it's just because they couldn't get one solid line out of the actor at a time but chooch doesn't want to follow in the family business and his father calls in goons to drag him to the airport and take him to military school we cut to ike eisenhower he's with his father and his father is telling him to say goodbye to his stepmother who he seems to have a romantic relationship with she asks where the weed is and he tells her it's in her diaphragm case then we cut to somewhere in the middle east where hash is saying goodbye to a woman he thinks is his mother but his father quickly explains that's not her and he says the veils confuse him yeah these are all supposed to be jokes just just in case oh are they it wasn't clear they're supposed to be oh okay he is being sent away for basically just being a petty thief he steals things constantly from people including a watch from his father right here in this scene uh he has been given a million dollar spending money on this trip now we're back in america where oliver and his girlfriend are being lectured by oliver's father but the subtitles are still in arabic and then the word oops appears next to them but whatever it said in arabic is never translated into english law it seems they're discussing a pregnancy and oliver's father is a politician specifically an anti-abortion politician in an election season and he assures them that they will do the right thing we cut to the abortion clinic where girlfriend candy is being walked in by her mother and waves goodbye to oliver's plane leaving for military school this movie is hilarious get abortion like a good abortion scene to get your i don't know title sequence with toy soldiers tipping over domino style to blow ups kicking up a fuss [Music] which might have been just a mediocre song if it had played once or twice but because it's used about a hundred times as every scene transition it becomes very quickly super annoying the members of the academy are in officers uniforms and an older guy dressed like a general specifically general patton i guess is standing in front of a giant american flag on the wall and he gives a patent-style motivational speech in front of the flag before farting because farts are funny and we cut to rifle practice a couple of kids flip over backwards from the recoil because that i think that's a joke too i'm not sure what's supposed to be jokes and what's just a thing that happens in military school the kids all get their haircuts but get this the guy giving the haircuts he's gay i mean he's gay excuse me he's blind oh and he's doing it bad job he's not doing a good job yeah he's doing a bad job because he's he's blind and he's got his cane over the kids faces and stuff it's really really like the opposite of what you think that somebody who gives haircuts would be like you'd think he would actually be really good at cutting hair because he feels it more yeah you would think that but that's not what happens he's actually bad at it but also don't we then cut to all of the kids in the barracks and none of them have had their haircuts since we saw them we only see one kid get a haircut and it's just like one patch just shaved off of the side of the front of his head and then he gets out of the chair and that's it and we never see that kid again because he just he just got paid hey we hit one chunk of his hair we need a kid who's willing to get this done and then not be in the rest of the movie chooch is measured for his uniform and uh he grabs a pair of scissors to threaten this character sison or cison i don't know he's credited as s-i-s-s-o-n so i'm going to say c-sone uh when his hands get too close to choo-choo's gooch and then he like looks up and sets down the all the measuring equipment and like oh i don't want to get stabbed with scissors it's funny because the guy doing this is is their uh stereotype gay guy hash steals candles from the academy church and he stores them in a chest by his bunk i don't know why he gives a [ __ ] about candles or candle holders yeah um perhaps he plans to murder someone with them yeah maybe i don't think it's about the objects for him he seems to just get a krill out of stealing yeah um either way there didn't seem to be much of a challenge to taking these he just kind of picked them up and walked away with them but the boys all meet each other in their room there's there's three bunk beds even though there's only four kids they should only need two bunk beds but we need one for later so there's three chooch is a dick um he just shouts at everybody and he won't shake anybody's hands liceman enters with like an icy breeze like they they make a big deal about how there's literally like the sound of wind plays every time he walks in i didn't even notice that yeah and it happens like nine times over the course of the movie so i could tell you how much this movie kept my attention and that was almost not at all okay well every time he's about to enter the room you hear the sound of wind and then all the guys start shivering and holding themselves like it's cold and then he walks in because the joke is that he's cold i don't get it i don't know why he makes cold he makes cold so he has like some superpower that they don't delve into in this first installment maybe they were going to reveal it will come in the remaining sequels or maybe his character was originally called iceman but he's called lice man now so it's like they parodied it before they wrote it he says that he came to the academy at age seven and he didn't have any friends when he's trying to convince them that it's very important to have friends and he wants to be their friend he asks whose bed he's standing near and oliver says it's mine and then he says say it again and he says mine sir he's like say it again yeah he say it again yeah he doesn't say it again he says please say that once more say it again mind sir say it again and then uh so that's a funny joke because he makes him say it a bunch of times and then he says it's chilly in here sir because he's cold because the guy is cold and he makes it cold he says i'm sorry say it again it's just a little chilly in here sir say it again it's just a little chilly in here sir so that's funny because he's then they say that a few times because of rule of threes repetition is just funny that's the secret there's no context required you could just repeat yourself three times and the third time it's funny on his way out he finds hash's stolen candlesticks and he says the next time i catch you stealing i'm gonna rip your balls off uh he walks out of the building past a dog wearing a uniform that says patty on it and he says doing the best i can sergeant patty oliver writes a letter to his girlfriend candy if he screws up the election for his father he's not going to get the car that he wants so they have to be very careful leisman gives him the letter later what gives him the response the response from candy uh it's all torn open because liceman read it and he says oh don't try and sneak out of here and he's like well i'm not gonna sneak out my girlfriend's like completely across the country he's like nope she's right over there at that other girl's military school so don't go over there um the rest of the letter was just lovey-dovey [ __ ] and he's like sorry sir i'll tell her not to write that stuff he's like it's your letter i don't care uh we cut to the students attending a munitions class with miss bliss as portrayed by barbara bach doing agent xxx yes and she's doing some unidentifiable accent i think it was her impression of a southern accent yeah but it's awful it's so weird that uh barbara like a little side tangent about barbara bach uh she claimed that she couldn't get a lot of roles because everyone thought she was european yeah it sounds like a european person doing a southern accent yeah but i guess like she had a problem she was like raised in america yeah she was born in queens yeah but apparently like because she can do accents really well because of her mix she can't no no like no like like european accents okay uh everyone just assumed that that's what she was and so she didn't get a lot of roles and i feel like they had her for this role they're like you're not talking right when they probably heard her talking normally i don't know what happened they had her try to do something weird whatever they asked her to do they should have asked her to do something different immediately after or just talk in her normal voice because it couldn't possibly have been as weird as what she's doing here maybe she was only good at european accents and so when they she can't even talk so when they asked her to do southern it sounded like a weird combination of european and southern it sounds like a swedish person doing a southern accent it does that's what it sounds like to me in this course you'll become familiar with a number of basic field weapons such as the one i'm holding the m1 recall-less semi-automatic rifle used by the u.s army infantry or even better why can't she just be someone from europe yeah there's no why why does she have to be southern nothing about this movie makes sense yeah so the kids are all just sitting here watching this presentation of uh she's all the weapons are dicks and she's rubbing them and all the kids ejaculate in their pants watching the lecture now back in the room ike is lip-synching to a radio broadcast of his father's televangelism uh in the foreground hash is literally bowing to a pyramid of five cans of castrol gtx motor oil he appears to also drink some later on like he's got like he's passed out with like a can of it in his arms that checks out uh chooch turns off the radio i don't know if we mentioned because he's arab oh yes uh he's arab the guy who couldn't tell his his mom's apart because they're all wearing veils his arab and ike here is an african-american child and his father is a televangelist chooch was trying to do homework or something and he's done listening to this radio so he walks over and turns it off and oliver's like that's ike's father but nobody in this room wants to hear this televangelist broadcast and ike already hasn't memorized like nobody cares oliver tells ike he's looking for the girls academy on a map so finally we're getting into a plot right sort of well i mean it's it's an actionable thing so far they have just been going to school which is not like an action of a story it's just something that you do yes uh see someone pops his head in and says hey guys i'm gonna do the laundry can you all give me your shorts and they're like oh we're good we're gonna do our laundry tomorrow and he's like okay darn it i don't get to see your balls and then cold wind sounds again and everyone's shivering very exaggeratedly like we get a separate insert for each kid shivering because they really want to hammer at home what's happening here and i don't get it still everything about this movie falls short he doesn't even come in he's just walking past the room why not just go the extra step to build like this set in like a refrigerated room so you can see their breath or just just just for these like a few inserts just to make it seem like oh yeah it really was you wanted them to put more effort into this yeah i wanted it but if you're gonna do that why not put the extra effort in to make it into an actual joke yeah or like yeah have someone take another whack at the script does mad magazine know any comedy writers maybe they could but seriously like i've never found the magazine funny either well so from that little snippet that you you shared with us which was the mad magazine parody of this movie that's what that's what all of their movie parody strips are like but well that's what the whole magazine isn't about that though but it seemed like they didn't uh they didn't write this movie they acquired the rights to this movie and then just put their name on no oh they wrote it they were they were paid by warner brothers to write this film oh all right then they did a poor job yeah or they did a rewrite on what warner brothers gave them but either way it's a film that they put their stamp of approval on and put in theaters they took their stamp off later but at some point they were satisfied with their name being on this and that's something that's on that took their stamp off later just the guy who runs mad magazine paid thirty thousand dollars to take the words mad magazine presents out of the title and cut out all the footage of alfred newman from the movie because he didn't want to look like he approved the movie even though he already put it in theaters like that okay but that's not how it works if if you already said it was good enough then it's too late now we hear the narration of ike writing a letter to his father saying oh i heard your broadcast it sounded great also i met your friend the devil his name's leisman and you're right he is white like white on lice because people always say that the devil is freezing cold is it an exorcist joke that the rum is cold when he comes in is he literally supposed to be a demon no i don't think so i think that it's i think that it's supposed to be a play on his name being lice which sounds like ice and it just falls flat every time i wouldn't even think of that well it's terrible but the isn't the joke lice though i thought the lice was the joke of his name because lice are gross i don't know okay i'm gonna have to write to these people apparently he already has a new stepmom for some reason it doesn't doesn't seem to factor into the plot at all he lies to his father about his soccer performance because the coach thinks he's bad at soccer but he says that the coach thought he was good at soccer so that's funny because it's different than what happened lies are funny automatically after a fight on the soccer field the coach throws a ball at one of the kids and as he's storming away he exclaims and for this i gave up that's the joke yeah that's the joke he says there because the coaches i should sorry i messed that up the coach is black now the joke is hilarious right yeah it's a black coach says and for this i gave up being white hinting at some sort of secret scientific experiment wherein you could trade your coachdom for a new skin color and so he gave up being white so that he could coach the soccer team and now he's black horns blast and liceman issues a challenge the faculty and the students will participate in a face-off soccer game in 29 days for parents weekend we get quick shots of the kids listening to this speech we see robert downey jr yawning probably because this movie's boring [Laughter] chooch scores a goal when no one is paying attention and everyone acts like that's impressive even leisman is like going like nodding his head in approval yeah like yeah this is gonna be a good game because they they got what i i have to admit i thought that this movie was going to pull some kind of switcheroo where liceman is just being really hard on them because he wants them to be better like better people like that movie about drumming with jk simmons um kind of but i was thinking more like the opposite of gorp where where they have the the counselor who they think is their friend and is secretly like screwing them over but this is the other way around yeah that was gonna be like he's really hard on them because he he knows that they can do better and when he what hammered that weird theory home given nothing else than that of the movie is when he's like nodding in approval of chooch like playing the game playing on the team and scoring goals like okay maybe this movie has something maybe there's going to be a core to this movie maybe there's going to be some kind of heart at the center of this garbage yeah so then chooch goes and he gets the ball out of the goal that he just kicked into and then he just kicks it at leisman who catches it and then he kicks it back but it's not like a joke about how he can't kick it back far because he kicks it far he just kicks it in a different direction he kicks it over all the rest of the kids heads well the teachers always win so i would imagine that they're actually good right so i don't know why they had him kick it back other than so that hash could go grab it and then kick it back at leisman again and it hits leisman as he's walking away oh you know what the problem was they should have done it a third time oh if they did it three times i would i would still be laughing so the ball hits him in the head and he says hash get over here and he says i couldn't tell who did it sir i only know it wasn't me and uh liceman tells him to take off his copa which is like the thing on his head and he says well no i have religious exemption you can't you can't ask me to take this off my my religion expressly forbids it i'm not clear what religion this guy is supposed to be would you guess that if he's a middle eastern character that he's supposed to be a muslim because that would have been my guess for this character i mean i miss i'm assuming that that's what we're we're supposed to be we are getting very little context clues from the movie about what he's supposed to be supposed to be he's from saudi arabia yeah he has an account with the bank the first bank of arabia but specifically in this particular instance i think he's joking right but i'm just asking he doesn't he doesn't have any religious reasons why he's supposed to yes correct but moving forward in the story it becomes relevant whether or not this character is supposed to be muslim or not i'm also really confused by him because he sounds like he's speaking with an english accent and maybe the actor just couldn't do a different accent or is he supposed to be an english arab i don't understand this character i i feel what he's doing and i actually kind of feel he's doing it pretty well is the uh a lot of arabs are educated in england uh or they have special tutors brought in that teach them english and they it kind of affects their manner of speaking english okay um if you ever listen to like like uh like alexander siddig uh speak uh you play dr bashir on uh ds9 it's just a very unique kind of accent and i feel he's actually maybe maybe i'm wrong but i feel like he's doing actually a pretty decent job with it sure um but uh i'm not i'm not it's like i feel like i'm uh uh saying that this is okay what he's doing for this person i don't remember what the actual nationality of the actor is either and i i wouldn't say that this is like a situation where that's problematic especially for 1980 i think that you know this is the least of the offensive things that he does in this movie is his accent but um the the actor's name is tommy cetera yeah and it says he was born in brooklyn yeah but he's being told to take this copa off by liceman and uh he won't do it so liceman rips it off his head because he says he stands out like a turd and a punch bowl and when he takes it off he spills a bunch of stolen objects including liceman's own watch and he says what did i tell you i was going to do if i caught you stealing again and he says you said you'd rip my balls off and he says that's right now leave and so he leaves instead of having his balls ripped off we see the kids in the bathroom they're being forced to clean the bathrooms it's hash and oliver are here cleaning the bathrooms and hash says hey oliver you can use one of my cars to get over to that girl school if you want then we have a cold breeze sound effect and leisman walks in and he tells oliver to leave and he sits down and he tells hash that he could offer him a reward in exchange for selling out his friends if they're planning anything and he says well what what would be the reward and he says well you wouldn't have to do this kind of crap anymore so the reward is just an absence of punishment back in the room rodney ververgaard arrives this is the least funny kid of the five the kids i've described already are funnier than rodney ververgaard he was kicked out of a school called handleman for burning it down or part of it and he laughs a lot well i don't think that this backstory is true though right but this is what we this is what we hear now yeah spoiler alert yeah like i'm so sorry i spoiled up the academy for you all yes i loved this movie until you did that i thought this was greg grungberg at first i i thought the kid looked really familiar but he's not in much and i'm thankful for that uh he asks chooch if he wets the bed because he's gonna be sharing a bunk bed with chooch and chooch says that he usually pees off the side which is just a funny joke already and then rodney says well i do it sometimes i i pee in the bed sometimes and i don't know if that's a joke or if it's set up for what's said next uh eisenhower says you're putting me on aren't you a little old to pee the bed and then he walks across the room and stands next to him on the bunk bed and like rests his hands on rodney's arm while they continue the conversation about how rodney pees the bed and then rodney says i can't help it i'm emotionally disturbed and i don't know if that's like a character study or a joke but he keeps laughing like an idiot for the whole scene and he can't even like decide what the laugh is like he keeps changing it it just keeps happening the next day the guys are all eating breakfast in bizarre unison they share this plan that they're going to jump the wall with rodney and leisman shows up and he's like who who is this why is there another kid here and uh and he says i'm rodney ververgaard i'm i'm here from handleman he's like oh you're the firebug huh and he looks over his paperwork and he's like all right this all seems right why are you wearing those weird glasses and he says oh cause mine caught fire in a weird accident and he's like okay well you got to wear normal glasses because you stand out like a turd in a punch bowl so that that joke was funny before we said it again so now it's funnier um if we repeat it a third time oh my god if this comes back you guys are gonna die chooch tells them that they're gonna get caught uh it's not a it's none of my business but you guys are gonna get caught if you try and get out of here so that night they head off to the girls school they first they have to cross the barbed wire that's wrapped around their own school and so rodney burns it yep he he burns it he burns it he uses a lighter to burn the barb's wire until it breaks because you know barbed wire is made of like cotton fibers right he burns it and then they crawl along the floor much lower than the wire even was indicating they could have done this without even burning the metal with a simple lighter also there's a guard tower and you would think that they would see a light source right in the dark like a lighter melting its way through barbed wire right which i estimate would take probably an hour sure yeah and i'm sure there was enough butane in this lighter to do that for an hour they go to a house that hash bought somehow and they find a car in the garage that hashbot somehow that that he bought and paid someone to park in this house uh with like a half tank of gas for some reason then we get this other joke how can an arab run out of gas i get it because arabs uh is a word that people use to describe people from oil-producing countries the oil is then processed into gasoline for vehicles so that's funny and then there are three employees at this gas station despite it being a self-service place there's like three guys in uniform sitting outside the gas station right even though they don't do anything outside the gas station uh ike asks if you can go to the bathroom and they say go in the woods boy because they're all racist hicks um hash tries to pay with his bank of arabia credit card but the guy won't take it because he doesn't know what the bank of arabia is i think that's how he says it bank of arabia what the hell is this um so hash just drives away without paying for the gas because you pay after this is back in the heyday of gas purchasing when you pay after i miss it uh this guy screwed it up for the rest of us so he drives away but then he remembers that ike is still peeing in the woods so he loops back around and as they're passing ike ike makes the decision you pointed this out chess he jumps on the hood of the car to get in as they drive past but this is a convertible it's a convertible he could have very easily just jumped in the back seat but instead he jumps on the hood yes he made a very specific decision to jump on the hood of the car and then as they're driving away he flips over the windshield into the back and then he says i always wondered what they looked like without their sheets on like he didn't know that the people in the kkk were just white guys um which you didn't i had to explain that joke yeah because i was looking away from the screen and i was like is he talking about did the coppa come off again or something what is he talking about without the sheets and then i was like oh okay okay case got it they crash full speed into a ditch outside the girl school and as a result oliver is catapulted from the back seat over the fence and the gas station people are still chasing them right and ike who is also in the back seat is not catapulted at all he stays in the car he's fine oliver poses as a tree moving across the yard as a group of girls is marched through the grass at night by robert downey jr's sister actually uh she's the one shouting at them to march oliver throws a rock through a window i i think you're supposed to use a pebble i don't know if it's a joke that he broke the window i mean or if he doesn't care i i called it before he threw it he's like he's just gonna break a window right because that would be the funny thing to do in this situation when you're just supposed to tap it yeah then uh then he says to the girl who sticks her head out the window can you tell me where i can find candy and she says try the vending machine in the lobby because she's hilarious and candy can hear him talking with this girl and she says oliver is that you and he says lower a rope and she says i don't i don't have a rope and he says okay i'm gonna climb up and she says okay wait i'll brush my hair what does that mean yeah wait i'll brush my hair is this a rapunzel situation or are you literally just telling him not to climb up until you've brushed or is this like i have to powder my nose but why tell him to wait it's going to take him at least five minutes to get up the side of this building right how long does it take to brush your hair so while he's climbing along the side of this building we get a montage of all the things that are going inside all the rooms he's looking into as he's crawling across including a woman who is shaving but using a clock as a mirror okay i have to go back and check that oh my goodness it was a clock oh like i i i will i will like a pocket watch no it's like a full clock and i was like what what is this see because i didn't think there were even any attempts at jokes in this but i guess i missed that because it bothered me that as he's going by there's just people doing things that people would do in a military academy but i assumed that the joke here was that she was shaving her face and oh well the school is called butch or whatever so here here's yes i see there's a watch you can see the hands on it and it's it's a it's like squared yeah it's an octagonal it's a clock okay so she's using the reflection of the clock to shave by though right but why not just a mirror they didn't have a mirror that day but here's a better question why aren't there isn't that a mirror right around the background why aren't there boobs in any of these rooms because these are underage girls then get overage girls it's a rated r movie it's a rated r movie and he's climbing past the windows of a girls school at night and we're looking at girls just fighting like they're practicing for a military academy they didn't want to be cliche they didn't no that's why you have a woman shaving her face with an electric razor this movie is rated r i don't think there's even is there even an f-bomb in this movie why is this movie rated r there must have been an f-bomb or two anyway he gets in and he starts to kiss candy and very quickly they're having sex but he realizes he left his wallet in the car so he has sex without the condoms that he brought and uh as he comes he says there goes my father's election which is that's hilarious because he's implying he's going to have another abortion right but his father already made this girl get an abortion so how is his how is it going to get out that she got the second abortion but not the first abortion how does he know she's pregnant already or maybe the implication is that she is not going to have an abortion this time okay and for some reason yeah and then he would have a baby out of wedlock yeah but that's in nine months if they don't get married i don't know palin got elected oh wow they're picking me up in one minute he notices oh wow they're picking me up in one minute and he leans out the window when two women with dogs are doing the rounds start barking at him and he ducks back in and he leaves her room just as her roommate enters and we stay in the room with her and the roommate and the roommate sits down on the bed all covered in dirt and says i worked my nuts off and i'm one tired soldier this was a a joke maybe i i don't know what this was supposed to be but it was like i had a moment of like genuine compassion for this girl who looked like he was just really tired yeah there's there's nothing funny about anything she said and it just seems like they accidentally left an extra line in the scene oliver finds the women with dogs again at the stairwell as he's trying to escape and uh he turns and runs away again but comes head to head with the girl whose window he broke and then he ends up jumping over the uh over the railing of these stairs past the women with dogs hash swerves past the school to pick him up just as he's jumping over the fence again still being pursued by the gas station people there's a point in which oliver is like looking out and sees them just like chasing each other in circles in the parking lot yeah because that's going on yeah so he jumps uh he jumps into the car and hash drives away and the hicks accidentally crashed through the fence and then their car breaks down so they get out of the car angry so angry in fact that they just pushed the doors off of the side of the truck as they're getting out of it i don't know if that's a joke or their car is just bad um but the women with the dogs are there and they're mid werewolf transformation they're just growling and swinging blades this doesn't make any sense this is the most bizarre part of the movie and then he just cuts the blank with them screaming yeah so you're like did did they kill them i think they murdered these guys but it's also like the most half-assed performance yes they are just like growling and swinging their arms very mildly like they're stabbing in the air and it's not even like it's a parody of something that exists in movies or an exaggeration of something that anyone's ever done it's just two women growling like dogs and swinging knives around the kids drive past a trailer on the side of the road and as they're making the hilarious joke that anybody can get laid in a whorehouse we hear a loud fart come from the trailer and then the general guy is thrown out onto the street by two choking prostitutes because the joke is then that he can't get laid in a whorehouse cause he farted they get back to the garage to park the car and they pull all the way in very slowly before they notice that standing right in front of them in the middle of the headlights is leisman and then they hit him they say oh no and he says don't you mean but he says it like that don't you mean oh no sir as they are driving through him he's still saying the line when they hit him and drive through the wall and it doesn't sound like he got hit at all at first i was sure that they didn't hit him except we get one shot of him laying across the hood with a hand on the windshield and they just keep driving with him on the front of the car and then we just cut to him giving them a lecture in his bungalow and they're all shivering because of that shitty running gag i don't get and liceman reveals that he has pictures of oliver and candy having sex i guess he was like up at the window there while they were doing that no because all of these pictures are like taken with a flashlight pointed at them in the darkness in the darkness and bedside yeah these pictures came from nowhere yes and so they asked him where they came from and he says you mean did you mean to say sir and then they say sir and then he says i'm not going to tell you he's not going to tell them in exchange for not sharing the pictures liceman wants a shoe shine and to have sex with oliver's girlfriend it's a reasonable request that's all he's asking to have sex with a child and clean shoes uh the kids later realized that liceman knows a lot about their plans somehow and oliver guesses for no reason that he may know a lot but liceman for sure doesn't know who played second base for some baseball team at some time and some season and then the joke here get this liceman's outside and he just shouts the player's name from the hallway so he knew the name of that baseball player right um this joke would make no sense if liceman wasn't around and oliver just said that it would be really weird if oliver said that so the everything but the punch line makes no sense because we know that oliver is all about sports statistics right because that's been established back in miss bliss's class ike tells rodney that chooch is the stooly but rodney's not listening because he is ogling the teacher and he says could you keep it down like some of us are trying to come that's why it's rated r oh there you go that's it that's it that hilarious joke was worth it was worth keeping everyone who would think this movie was funny out of the theater new plan hash is going to fake an injury during the soccer game so they can get away from the game for a minute steal the pictures back from the bungalow they pretend near chooch that they aren't going to bother stealing the pictures because he is the stooly in the middle of the night though chooch catches rodney sneaking out of the bunk bedroom chooch stops for a second to listen to a door where he can hear sasson tucking a kid in for no reason we need another gay joke let's put it right here he continues following rodney to a meeting with leisman and he's recording it they're they're standing in the middle of this row of hanging dummies for like they're stabbing dummies i guess and uh liceman thinks he hears something and he stands up and he just stabs the dummy next to chooch a bunch uh but chooch is not a dummy so he's worried that he might get stabbed in place of a dummy even though sorry what are stabbing dummies just dummies that you stab you you used to practice like with a bayonet at the end of your gun oh okay the next morning the kids are all sitting down to eat some pig balls even the muslim kid feel like you're not supposed to eat pig right but he was he the one that was super into it one of them was super into it yeah he was happy it was him he had like a giant pile so they were trying to get mustard and just scarfing them down i think that they were trying to make a people in the middle east eat weird things joke and they forgot that the one weird thing that they don't eat is any part of a pig yeah but rodney is grossed out by this meal and he leaves long enough for chooch to play the recording of him making a deal with leisman so they decide they're going to scrap the previous plane and make a new plan and leave rodney out of it as we get closer to the plan coming to fruition rodney's getting more and more nervous because all he knows about the new plan is that he has to start a fight with liceman and get punched get knocked out so uh the dance starts there's a dance with the girls school invited and uh ike is talking to oliver there and he says does candy know what to do and he says yeah she knows the whole plan and he says wow she's so pretty she she stands out like a turd and a punch bowl that's three times so this is by now laughing out loud yeah very funny if only there was some kind of crescendo some kind of way of making this joke really pay off for the movie yes in his cabin leisman suddenly notices a dog sergeant patty despite the door not having opened the dog has just arrived and he says oh what's that dog you want to have sex and then he feeds the dog a condom and then the dog leaves through a closed door okay i must have totally zoned out at this part i don't remember any of this that sounds horrible yeah he gives the dog a condom and a wrapper just tucks it in the dog's mouth and the dog you know bites it and then turns around and walks away like the dog is going to use the condom but the door never opens so the dog i don't know how they don't know the problem that you have with the scene is the door not opening well he just turns around like oh dog good to see you dog here eat a condom dog bye dog never opens a door is there a doggy door we don't see one there's not one in the the only door that we know of to this bungalow oh man this next bit is so great so there's this group this acapella group called the landmines and they come out and they sing bad on [Music] purpose so we get oh my god there's so many great inserts for this so uh everyone leaves it doesn't like the music except for leisman he likes it outside we see barbara bach and she slurs her way through more weird dialogue you can hand me that john what's your name the womb behind your ear she means joint but in the south they say jaunt uh we we get this insert of the punch bowl right and then something something breaks him but you can't tell what something in the punch bowl broke because the music was bad we see a plate of cookies or or some sort of a baked good and one of them explodes like with a gunshot sound like a ricocheting bullet sound we we see a woman uh listening to the music and her glasses break via a jump cut that repositions all of the background characters and don't forget the woman's shoes oh my god i could not i could not leave out a lady's shoes fall off so we continue the inserts here uh stained glass is falling out of the frames buildings in stock footage are collapsing and then the entire movie collapses uh literally the frame like a shot of the band performing breaks into shards and falls out of frame leaving just blackness like the movie shattered rodney tells leisman that he doesn't know the plan beyond the fact that they're supposed to get in a fight with each other and uh then the the only legitimately funny joke shows up leisman flirts with a woman from the other school and uh his pickup line is you like it when a gentleman ties you up and she says what and he says you know with rope and she turns around and walks away from him and he sits down next to another girl and he says tickle your ass with a feather what i said uh it's particularly nasty weather that we're having oh yes it is major [Music] so how about it then they uh like to have your ass tickle with a feather she just starts laughing in his face um then we suddenly get that crescendo you were asking for yeah here it is the punch bowl has a turd in it a real turd someone put a turret in there i don't know which one of these kids just dropped trow and shard it into this bowl but that happened and it doesn't play into anything it's not part of the plan uh it doesn't affect anything after this shot they're worried that they can't find ike because ike plays a very important part in this plan ike is out smoking with barbara bach and they're really worried because they can't find him and someone's about to read who the king and queen are of this dance candy flirts with liceman and he says to her tickle yass with a feather and she says maybe later and he's like oh it finally worked on someone the general gives a speech and he farts again so that's three times i think now so that's officially funnier candy and leisman head back to his room and the kids hang rodney up on a hook in a closet candy changes into a genie outfit because they're trying to get him into uh an uncomfortable photograph i think we should call it a belly dancing outfit sure bellies belly dancers and genius are the same allah barbara eden and i shave of genie um rodney escapes the closet uh when candy tricks liceman into going into the bathroom and changing into an embarrassing uh like women's negligee outfit that she brought with her she opens the door so that the boys can come in and hide behind a couch so when he comes out he's wearing this dress and she's wearing her jeannie costume her her belly dancing outfit and the boys hit record on the same tape recorder that chuchi used earlier and candy says come over here and whip me and gives him a whip he stands up over the top of her and he pulls this thing back like he's gonna whip her real hard and just lucky timing the guys come out and take a picture before he swings it down and literally just whips this girl rodney bursts in here too late to say hey uncle liceman or uncle vaughn the first name i think that they have another plan and they're gonna get you uh for some reason though uh liceman lets them leave with the pictures they just took yeah uh that makes no sense well what is it gonna do chase after them in this funny outfit or not even let them leave the room he has a henchman in the doorway a big fat henchman that's blocking the whole doorway i suppose it might have accidentally been too funny to watch him run around the field yeah outfit yeah that might have had a combination guess what guess what about happens after they leave this scene in this room the next scene is they're back in this room yeah cut to uh sometime later uh maybe he just gave them a chance to take the pictures they took in a safe place and then come back so they could make a deal the deal that they end up making is whoever wins the soccer game on parents day gets all the pictures and why they already had an agreement to not publish the pictures like it's like we got pictures of you you got pictures of me that's the end of the game yeah because it's mutually assured but for some reason they decided to double down yeah i guess but he agrees during the national anthem before the game which is sung by csun hash is invited to fire a rocket during the rocket's red glare portion of the anthem but he fires a real rocket and accidentally bombs a bridge everyone is momentarily shocked and we get three seconds of rodney sitting on a bunk bed putting something in his pocket before we cut back to the soccer game because otherwise it'd be weird if everyone seemed shocked and then suddenly they just played the soccer game anyway after they blew up a bridge ike leads the audience in a chant of go go go go and he tells them all to flip over their cards to reveal the word go but it says og it's it's backwards uh and he calls them stupid hockeys rodney brings a second rocket to the field and at a very important moment of the game the card section flips over a photograph of leisman whipping candy and they try to tell him oh look look it's a picture of you and he's like oh you think i was born yesterday and then they play the recording of him about to whip the girl and then he realizes oh they're not joking and he looks over and while he's looking scores the winning goal for no reason because this deal doesn't matter anymore because they just revealed the picture right so they have no leverage anymore right correct and then rodney blows up liceman's bungalow so there's not even pictures for them too because they wanted to go and steal them back but they couldn't get in they couldn't get into the save so that they just accidentally blow it up instead yeah and we see the photographs burning even though the safe isn't destroyed when the building gets blown up but i just don't understand why they thought the deal would be valid because they obviously didn't plan to have the bungalow blow up right their plan was to steal the pictures back no they're oh their plan was to steal the pictures but they couldn't get into the safe but apparently their plan was also to show his picture and win the game so they would have gotten the pictures as a reward i don't know why they had to win the game because their plan was always to steal the pictures back but it would have been invalid anyways because they showed the picture ah this doesn't make any sense i also don't know why the day before they were acting like it was a big deal that ike was missing just make sure you're back to take care of verigar before the king and queen are announced or we'll be in big trouble when they were about to announce the king and queen of the dance when that didn't factor into anything and ike played no part in the prank for the rest of the night the movie's over kind of the same newspaper front page has liceman getting arrested on one side and dad getting re-elected on the other side because i guess left and right like but i guess oliver is the main character yeah i think so is he i mean he's the only one that has a girl and a goal to not ruin his father's election to get a car and to get the girl and he's the whitest guy of the four so he was probably the main character in 1980. the kids drive away in two cars the a corvette they got somewhere and uh well it's oliver's gift card oh it was his gift from his father yeah um so that car and then the one that hash bought that was in the garage that they drove through a wall uh so they drive they're driving down the street and they stop for a hitchhiker and after he tosses them his duffel bag he pulls something off of his head to reveal that he's that it's liceman he's hitchhiking because he he doesn't have a car and they take his duffel bag but they just drive away they drive past him and then we hear lesbians say play it again and they replay that whole portion they they they back it up it plays a rewind sound but instead of the footage being rewound and us seeing that we see just like the camera panning left to right on for in like a telephoto lens zooming really far out into wilderness and uh and so we see him running after the car again and then it says play it again and we see him running after the car again and then the for the third rewind suddenly alfred newman is standing on the side of the road and he's waving and then we rewind again and he's following the car again and then a word bubble shows up that says what me worry which was alfred newman's catchphrase and then we see the opening title sequence played backwards and the credits are rolling uh down from the top of the screen um and the the falling soldier animation is playing it backwards but also we even start on because at the end of the opening titles we pan up uh from this backdrop to see alfred newman standing behind the backdrop with his arms up like shrugging i don't know what me worry you know and then uh we see the same thing in reverse now he's putting his arms down and we're panning down the backdrop to these toy soldiers and that's uh that's the end of this film like i guess the only other thing to mention is that rodney is now with them again because he blew up the bungalow oh so they're friends now yeah they're friends again so that was that was his that was his ark he had an ark yeah did chooch have an arc no yeah he was good at soccer he was good at soccer when nobody's watching or when everyone's distracted i'm very good at distracting soccer uh this film was directed by robert downey senior i hope he wasn't trying uh because i actually really enjoyed putney swope which was ten years earlier the tagline to put me swept by the way was up madison avenue so then he went on to do up the academy uh he co-wrote the gong show movie with cia agent chuck barris he's also the father of iron man writer tom patchett wrote for bob newhart carol burnett he created alf he created alf yeah there's like a lot of like decent writing credits under his belt wait for it jess you're gonna be real sad about this other writer jay tarsus uh he played coach finstock and teen wolf i know that's devastating for you you're a big coach finn stock fan he also wrote the screenplay for the great muppet caper oh and muppets take manhattan which makes more sense yeah i don't like that one apparently he hasn't and i couldn't find an explanation for this uncredited screenwriting credit on short circuit so he wrote it with brent matic and ss wilson his name is on scripts that i could find but i have no idea why his name was eventually taken off and he did not get a credit uh wendell brown played ike i can't explain to you the order of these names so wendell brown played ike not not many credits uh tommy sotera played hash not many credits after this hutch parker was oliver again he was in like one episode of uh soap opera but now he's a producer on a bunch of fox marvel movies because he was the president of the company for a while ralph macchio was chooch obviously he did the most after this he was johnny cade and the outsiders and then he was daniel and the karate kid he's eugene martone in crossroads he plays bill gambini and my cousin vinnie the guy whose cousin is vinnie and apparently he's reprising the role of danny larusso for the youtube series cobra kai i didn't realize he was on that but he's probably only in one episode no he's in a bunch oh really i think maybe he became a regular like in a later season when he was like oh this show's going to stay on the air i need a job harry tynowitz played rodney vervegaard this was his first film it's his only feature character with a name his career culminated as ice cream clerk in 2000's returned to me which is that uh heart transplant romantic comedy directed by bonnie hunt yeah bonnie hunt directed and wrote it she wrote it with uh what's his name dawn lake the guy from the super mario brothers movie that played the prostitute and don't answer the phone um sison was played by tom poston uh he was j arthur conrad in the first happy hooker movie he was george utley in 184 episodes of something i accidentally left the rest of that row blank i just put 184 episodes of newhart bob newhart or just new heart he's in three shows he's in like the bob show the bob newhart show in the new article considering this this movie was written by two new heart writers but it's just new heart it says just new heart he was also floyd norton in 32 episodes of grace under fire which was a decent show he also plays eric foreman's maternal grandfather on that 70s show so red foreman's father-in-law he is also the voice of the capital city goofball on the simpsons okay in season two episode five dance and homer i don't believe it it's really you the capital city goofball hello dancing homer glad to have you aboard if there's anything i can do for you just squeeze the wheeze i think that's all he says on the episode ian wolfe played commandant causeway that's the old man who keeps farting he played pto which are my initials in thx 1138 he played the forger and dick tracy that was his last role and he was in another movie that we've seen for this podcast he was in now voyager which is on the tv and windows [Laughter] antonio fargus played the coach the coach of the soccer team he's in a lot of classic blaxploitation movies he was link brown and foxy brown i assume she he's some relation to foxy he played bunky in shaft and he played fly guy in i'm going to get you sucker which is the keenan ivory wayne's blaxploitation parody movie he also plays a taxi driver and fire starter yeah i uh yeah i actually remember that part yeah because uh uh charlie's father like mind controls him to thinking that the bill that he gives him is like like a hundred dollar bill that's shitty you will take uh credits what does he say imperial credits will be fine imperial credits will be fine stacy nelkin plays candy uh she was marlene the teen grocery store clerk in serial who martin mull started dating during a brief separation from his wife the one who was all the one that then went on to date the other guy yeah i think she did yeah the guy who kills himself after they break up and she was also at least partly the inspiration for the muriel hemingway character in manhattan after having dated woody allen briefly in high school she was 17 and he was 41. she also played ellie grimbridge in halloween 3 and triola and yellow beard yeah that's what i know her from she's she's actually cute in this and she does a fine job with all of her scenes it's just very very terrible material barbara bach was miss bliss this was a year before she met ringo starr on the set of caveman and the two of them were married um and are still married i think yeah yeah they're still married this was three years after her appearance as anya amasova and the spy who loved me uh which she's actually the main character of that book have you have you read the books i i have not okay the book is actually really interesting because it's like a coming-of-age story about this girl before she is taken hostage by jaws and this other guy at a hotel and james bond just like comes in three quarters of the way through the story to save her and that's it's it's a very interesting bond book yeah because the movie is very different yes yeah she's already an agent but it does have jaws in it and then he came back from moonraker because he was so popular uh in addition to having a beatle husband she also has an eagle brother-in-law because her sister is married to joe walsh of the eagles candy ann brown played nubia i forget if that is the first or second stepmother of the ike character i thought it was the first the first wife um because i thought when he's talking about the letter he calls the second step wife nubia also i don't know if that's just a continuity or well because there's someone credited as second stepmother okay well anyway this is the first one then um she played the girl that the guys brought home from the bar in heartbeat do you remember when they found a girl at the bar i brought her back to the house and tried to put her in the attic and uh she will not be seen in a feature again until lost in america in 1985. that's a good movie that's the one with uh albert brooks and julie haggerty where they go on the road trip because he quit his job i don't remember that one we watched it with matt it's it's it's really good uh king coleman played reverend macarthur that's ike's father he is actually a musician and uh he wrote a song that was very popular called do the mashed potatoes rosalie saterra is credited as mrs bombalazzi bombalazi is the name of the mafia family chucha's mafia family so she's playing chooch's mother but she has the same last name as the kid who's playing the hash character so i wouldn't be surprised if this is just his mom and she was on set and they were like can you sit next to that guy so that we have a mom character and she was like fine because she doesn't have any lines this is her only credit tyrese allen played the assistant cook i don't remember a cook in this movie let alone an assistant cook but tyrese allen played stark weather and robocop allison downey that's uh robert danny jr's sister played that platoon leader i said before tanya boyd was reverend ike's second wife she played celeste perrault in 223 episodes of days of our lives robert downey jr was a boy on the soccer team uncredited he is the son of the director he's tony stark and sherlock holmes recently dr doolittle although it's probably he doesn't want me to tell you that and he played chaplin very well ron liebman was major von leisman he's uncredited by request he played the father of rachel greene on friends he played dr cohen in garden state which i think is the guy who has so many certificates on his wall that some of them are on the ceiling um which is a funny bit and uh he's also the voice of archer's stepfather ron cadillac yeah on archer yeah he's such a great part of that show because ron cadillac is freaking epic but uh this movie's not his fault he actually has the only lines that i laughed at um well and he only he was the only one that had the sense to ask for his name to be removed as soon as he said he's like okay yeah this is what i thought on set this is why i wanted to come to the screening go ahead and leave me out of this one yeah do we have a lot more to say about this movie i have very little to say about this movie i don't i either don't watch it it's a no from me yeah i'm surprised you've actually gotten to this point in our podcast yeah yeah that's a no it's a no from from all of us i believe yes i agree i'm trying to think of what they could have done right um this is not a parody film that's where they went wrong mad magazine is a magazine that parodies movies all they needed to do was take a serious film genre and do a parody of it there are hundreds of parody films this film is not a parody it's just a straightforward comedy about kids at a military academy at no point are they making a joke about something that happens in this kind of movie all the time well at no point are they making a joke really they're not it's just nothing is funny they i think that they it seems like being weird was enough and they were like this isn't a thing that a person would do in this situation so people will laugh at it because it's counterintuitive i guess even gorp had more jokes than this yes absolutely corp had setups and punch lines all over the place so that's where i'm struggling right now i am literally looking at gorp and thinking oh my god i hated that movie so much i don't ever want to ever ever ever see it again it was nothing but a bunch of dudes screaming in every scene and i'm struggling to decide if i want this above or below that it's definitely less funny than gorp it's less funny than gorp but i think it's less annoying than corp yeah looking at my list now richard do you know where this goes on your list yeah i mean it's not at the bottom um it's i'm actually gonna put this uh oh boy uh i think i'm gonna put this below baltimore bullet okay which is above nothing personal okay well i think i i'm also going to put it above nothing personal but nothing personal is at the very bottom of my list so this is fast that's the bottom that's the bottom and i am putting this below gorp because i think you're right as much as i didn't like it at least they had some jokes in that one i am not copying you guys but i am also putting it exactly right above nothing personal and below happy hooker ghost hollywood um that puts it above only nothing personal bon voyage charlie brown and home movies if you're listening to this because you saw this movie when you were a kid and you remember it being really funny and you think we were unfair rent it because you deserve to rent it if you think that and uh come to terms with it no no i think i maybe if you really liked this movie you could explain some of the jokes i mean that doesn't make it funnier but maybe you could help us understand it i think that if someone thought this movie was funny ever it's because they were seven when they watched it and they were like because he's arab and he's bowing to oil because they oil is they like oil and they can't run out of gas because they're arab they just have gas it just spills out of their hands i'm sorry for this episode i think that's everything for this one if you have any thoughts you'd like to share with us we're vintagevideopod on twitter facebook instagram and letterbox where as i've said before you can find each of our full movie rankings for the year we can also be found at vintagevideopodcast.com please consider rating us on itunes to help people find the show and if you take the time to leave us a review we will thank you 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