we're on a mission from god

wendy so i got that going darling

looks like i picked the wrong way to

quit sniffing blue light

of my life we enjoy your films

i thought they smelled bad on the

outside

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welcome to vintage video where we're

re-watching the 80s so you don't have

to we'll be reviewing every major film

release of the 1980s in real time

over analyzing what you've seen and

spoiling what you haven't i'm patrick

o'reilly i'm jessie bayless and i'm

richard wells and today marks the 40th

anniversary of the release of herbie

goes bananas on june 25th

1980 it was written by don tate with

characters by gordon buford

from his book car boy girl directed by

vincent mcaveedy

and released by buena vista distribution

is that a children's book

kind of in 1961 gordon buford's novel

car boy girl was published and lead

actor at the time dean jones

wanted to adapt it for film he wanted it

to be a straightforward racing movie

about the first sports car but walt

disney himself

was set on something else the first

herbie movie was the last thing that

walt himself had a hand in developing

starting with the title of the novel car

boy girl the film later passed through

various equally bad titles

including the magic volksy the runaway

wagon

beetle bomb wonder beetle bug boom

and thunderbug which i actually hate the

least

before settling on the love bug which i

hate the second least

but it came out in 1966 two years after

walt died

so you got the love bug it was the 60s

you got to do it

uh the first film follows what is now a

well-worn trope a magical

anthropomorphic car

chooses a down on his luck guy actor

dean jones in this case has its driver

is it anthropomorphic yes

i would say it is uh it tricks him into

a relationship and they beat a jerk in a

race

and this is what the franchise would

become about so the first movie was just

called the love bug

and these are some notes that i made

while watching it recently they reminded

me of one of the sequels

herbie spurts oil all over the foot of

peter thorndike played by

david tomlinson this happens repeatedly

over the course of the franchise but

the first time it happened was here in

this movie we're still talking about the

first one

yes the love bug 36 minutes into the

movie thorndyke says i tell you there's

more going on here than meets the eyes

we're going to get to sequels that

aren't official sequels later

the second film makes slightly less

sense the whole cast left so we have the

ant of the driver's mechanic watching

her

that's true herbie does have an imdb

page for some reason

uh herbie is protecting this woman from

an evil land developer played by kanan

nguyen and he ends up being

really the only interesting person in

the movie not only does herbie being a

car play no important part in the plot

because there's no racing

but also random things in her house are

also alive too

and that also plays very little part in

the film do any of the movies

go into any lore about no but i want to

do that prequel where you over explain

it like to death wouldn't that be great

no no yeah you're right that wouldn't be

good in the second movie

at one point in the film keenan wynn

says that he is being driven bananas

which reminded me of this film and uh he

also steals herbie at one point and

brags to himself out loud about it

before

reminding himself except a six-year-old

kid could steal this one cylinder hair

dryer

maybe foreshadowing if the child's

stealing it later

uh the third film herbie goes to monte

carlo goes back to the roots

as dean jones returns to drive buddy

hackett the first film's mechanic is

replaced here with don knotts

and herbie's entered in the trans-france

race in monte carlo

but falls in love with the girl car

during the race and some jewel thieves

try to use herbie to smuggle their goods

out of the country that brings us to

this installment and i'll cover some

sequels later we start here

with establishing shots of a bus moving

along an oceanside road in puerto

vallarta it looks like everyone's

sitting on the same side of the bus so

it looks full for the aerial footage

the bus pulls up to a bunch of street

shops on the beach

and outsteps a young seth macfarlane

named pete

it's not seth macfarlane but he looks

like a young seth macfarlane

and he's followed by his he looks a lot

like seth macfarlane we all agree

and he's followed by his nerdier

sidekick named dj

uh the two of them share some things

that they already know back and forth

about how they are here to collect a car

that pete inherited

and that pete is carrying all of the

money that they need for the storage fee

a young pickpocket named paco hears this

last bit

about money and wraps up a shoeshine

ahead of schedule to follow them

out of the scene he offers them a shine

and when they shoot him off he offers to

show them

yeah he offers to show them a good time

show you plenty good time

and they tell him that it isn't in the

budget i'm not sure what he's pitching

here

you sure also seem to know exactly what

he means yeah yeah you

say he offers to show them a good time

out of context sounds

really weird but that's what it sounded

like in the context of the film is he

gonna take him to a strip club or

something

yes it's puerto vallarta yeah okay he

offers to escort them to

the storage place where they plan to

pick up the car he gets them close and

just recites the last few turns before

they part ways

and then he ducks behind like a concrete

barrier and instead of what i thought

was gonna happen pulling out the wallet

and checking and see what he what he

just won instead he just snaps his

fingers

on both hands and points into the camera

with a big smile and then continues

running

so he's just celebrating his his theft

uh we cut inside an office with a

balcony on the water

where prindle is looking into a

viewfinder type thing

at a film strip with a map to an

undiscovered incan temple

with supposed buried treasure or incan

treasure maybe not very

just just the whole city would be a

treasure but

he's smart enough to know that there's

untouched gold and artifacts there that

he can

right plunder so basically some oil

prospecting planes were flying over the

jungle and spotted this temple

in this south american jungle and

the location of the temple suggests the

presence of pre-columbian artifacts as

well as gold

so they could make a lot of money off of

what they find here

the finder just wants cash because

stealing artifacts is a headache and

it's trouble if you're caught with them

because they're considered national

treasures by the local government

so unless it's indiana jones doing the

stealing then uh

then it's just plain old archaeology but

for these guys it would be theft

pete and dj collect the bug from the

storage yard

and the guy checking it out says mr

douglas pete's uncle told them that this

car won the monte carlo grand prix which

i can confirm

it did do that seems like

based on its reputation they were

expecting a sports car that they could

enter in races

so they're kind of upset to see that

it's a volkswagen bug but how did it

get to puerto vallarta it could have

swam there for all we know

it does all sorts of weird stuff yeah we

do prove that it can do that maybe it

was already in a south american race

somewhere who knows

when the time comes to pay dj realizes

that his pocket has been

picked and they ask the guy at the

storage yard if they can

take their own property for a test drive

like they might just

leave it there i don't understand well i

mean technically i mean

they would still need to pay him for the

storage fee

yeah but the guy says fine because it's

his first day or he hates money or

something

well also i do like how quickly uh

uh pete is able to pick up that dj

doesn't have the money

and just comes up with his play on the

fly yeah like the moment he sees cj

panic he just goes

damn yeah the temple raiders step out of

their hotel

in need of a cab and paco offers to hail

one for them

or carry their luggage or whatever and

prindle just shoves the kid hard

into his associate shepard while their

third member the relatively silent

partner quinn goes to flag them a cab

shepard literally kicks paco into the

street as cars are going by

oh my god this one card doesn't look

like it was going to stop or didn't know

it was supposed to stop for the kid and

uh he just rises and runs between them

very narrowly avoiding getting smashed

i'm sure these are all like

stunt drivers but it seems super

dangerous to watch this kid dodging

through traffic like that

this time he shows off a bit juggling

the wallet that he snagged before making

it around a corner

he sits and he sorts through it out in

the open and he also still has dj's

wallet

so pete and dj having confirmed that

this kid took the wallet

are now driving around just looking for

him up and down roads and just by

sheer coincidence they they see him and

not even all of him just his leg is

sticking out from behind some boxes

i know that leg yeah and he's like i'd

know that leg anywhere i was eyeing it

real good

definitely aren't any other small boys

in puerto vallarta nope this is the only

kid

uh so they approach him stealthily but

the kid hears

herbie's doors creak and runs for it and

a chase ensues

so they run through a nearby house and

end up back at the bug where paco's just

hiding on the other side of the car

and they split up to check either

direction down the street

paco squats in front of herbie's trunk

which is in the front of these vw bugs

when the bad guys finally get a cab

shepard offers prindle a number to reach

him at

and realizes his wallet's been snagged

and so has the film strip that was going

to lead them to this treasure

even though they've been following him

on foot until just a minute ago

dj is tired of running around and

assumes the kid has skipped town already

somehow

they notice him across the street and

grab him just as he's about to drop

their wallet into a mailbox

which is really nice of them yeah i i

thought because he only took a little

bit of money like he didn't take

all of it he he just took a little bit

and then he was gonna put the wallet in

the mail he's like well that's what you

do with a lost wallet

yeah but it's not a lost wallet per se

but yeah they they would conceivably get

it back if he put it in there

but here they're able to get the wallet

and the money back from the kid but when

they're yanking it away from him

dj says grab loose of that which is just

a weird phrase

it feels old-fashioned to me but i think

that's what people would say

when they're trying to get it back from

him he says grab loose of that

pete offers to spank the kid which is

wrong on a few levels

weird that he's still so angry even

though they got everything back and also

that he thought you're allowed to

discipline other people's kids or that

anyone should ever be allowed to pants a

child in public

paco leans back against the mailbox and

flips through the other wallet

which he successfully ditches into the

mailbox because there are two of them i

suspected one would wait with the

mailbox and the other one would chase

the kid but they ditched the wallet and

just chased the kid because they think

he took the film strip

but they don't they don't know that it's

not in there right

but he the kid might have taken it out

so they go after the kid

again the kid is very nearly struck by i

think the same vehicle as before

uh the stunt driver might have had a

favorite background car

this car had it in for this kid yeah

yeah he's just

he's been ripped off too many times he's

like i'm just gonna drive her so

anthropomorphic and he's got another

yeah there's no driver in it uh

it seems like the bad guys have la

policia on their side and suddenly 15

cop cars are also in pursuit

uh paco squats again beside herbie but

then he sneaks away behind a large woman

walking with laundry bags

when the cops interview the staff of the

store that he disappeared into

they say they haven't seen him as he's

peeking out of this woven basket near

the door of the shop so this woman seems

to be playing along and letting him hide

in her store

outside the shop herbie opens his mouth

demanding a new child sacrifice

and paco obliges herbie tears

off down the street sometimes at a 45

degree angle on his back wheels

and blasts past the bad guys after they

noticed the kid was hiding

bouncing around in there yeah i feel

like he's definitely concussed at the

very least

kirby used his tongue to suppress him oh

there you go i forgot

this car clearly has a tongue push the

kids on the roof of your

mouth car mouth well i see like like

that's what was really creepy in the

second kirby kirby

herbie movie is kirby definitely has a

tongue yeah

uh is when keenan wynn is having that

bad dream about all the different bugs

chasing him

yeah the nightmare sequence they all

have the mouse but they all making like

growling dog noises

there's a pretty dark scene in every

version of this movie yeah like that

that burned in my head as a kid because

like this is actually really frightening

yeah a cop helps the bad guys retrieve

their wallet but it turns out

yes the film strip is gone then we move

to

the sun princess which is just pulling

out of dock

the car is being lifted onto the deck of

this cruise ship in a big net

like a cargo net and uh cargo net

cargo uh a map painting slowly floats

away as the bad guys pull up

um they intend to intercept the ship at

its first stop

in panama captain blyth regales dinner

guests on the cruise ship

about a time that he and his crew

attacked another ship and raped their

captors

wait what he's using a weird pirate

voice and telling them about the time

that they stormed aboard another ship

and this is what he says well the booty

was taken aboard the man of war

and the enemy vessel skunk the women

were then turned over to the crew

the select one is going to the officers

naturally

the winches were escorted below and

believe me there was no poetry or by

your leave or how lovely you looked

tonight adam

once got to the back of his hand in

oh jesus that is what he's saying right

it's a disney movie yeah

it actually gets worse yeah uh i

expected this character to be more of a

villain than he ended up by the end of

the film

but uh aunt louise hears this from a

neighboring table and seems intrigued by

his bravado

uh captain blyth finishes the story

about murdering a boat full of people

in what feels like a pre-will feral will

ferrell impression

he stabs a candle off of a centerpiece

to light a woman's cigarette

and then gets back to the carnage where

was i well

the deck was awash with blood

we cut to the other table where aunt

louise and melissa are perusing their

menus

and louise tells melissa that she would

like that

captain on a bed of roses

pete and gj are seated at the table with

them and immediately louise is trying to

set melissa up with pete

melissa uses the excuse that she has to

study for her doctorate

to avoid pairing up with him for this

vacation now

uh when pete and dj first enter

the maitre d of sorts of the restaurant

signals her and she kind of like nods

like to louise

yeah oh i didn't care and i'm wondering

if like she said to him like if any two

handsome young gentlemen yeah

send them my way that is entirely

possible it sounds like something she'd

do

but melissa here is studying latin

american cultures and

the guys explained that they are here

entering a car in the brazil

grand primeo it sounds like pete is the

driver and dj is the mechanic

he says like he handles the wheel and i

handle everything else which i guess

that's what that means

i i assume or his manager yeah

well i'm basing that he's the mechanic

on something that happens later i guess

uh but pete is the nephew of the driver

from the first and third installments of

the franchise played by dean jones

and charles martin smith here is playing

basically the don knotts character from

the third movie

we move below decks where a man singing

an italian sets his lunch on a box in

front of herbie

and the ship's hold just as he brings

the first piece of lettuce to his mouth

a phone rings and he's called away

and then herbie scoots up in his absence

and opens his mouth

and paco leans out of the car and just

steals all of the food

and when the guy comes back he's like oh

taking my chicken

and he's like looking all over he like

looks under the tomatoes

yeah he picks up the tiny tomato slice

and looks under it

um but then as he's looking around for

it the car trunk opens again and bones

are just flying out of it and landing on

the plate

now his first instinct isn't to think

that there's somebody inside the car

that's crazy it's immediately to this

car

is eating my food but there's clearly

just a kid in there you would just

assume there was a kid in there

well but or just even when he opened it

i don't know how you

don't see a child in it well the first

time it opens he's standing

on the side of it so he's not actually

looking into the trunk to see the kid

sitting there

but then somehow so he's convinced that

this car

is not a person and he prized the

trunk open to try and get his food back

but

he falls on the floor and then turns

around with plenty of time to see

the the front just completely open and

he would have seen the kid

yeah but he just watches the rest of the

bones come out with a shocked face

and uh he goes and he picks up a crowbar

and he's gonna just start bashing this

car to pieces because they ate his food

when suddenly it just pulls away and

starts driving all throughout the ship

he phones for reinforcements and they

all agree that this is worth wasting the

captain's time

they surround the car and all jump on it

and it drives away dragging like five

men through this ship

how far can it really drive like the

ship can't be that huge

yeah it's it's weird um

the the first guy whose food got stolen

calls the captain

and interrupts him at dinner the captain

immediately accuses him of drinking on

duty and hangs up angrily to leave

i think that's a fair assessment yeah i

think so too

i would be angry at whoever let him use

this phone to make this call

they catch the car with a net and they

find paco inside of it

they throw a net down on the ground and

when the car drives up onto it they

basically wrap up its wheels so that it

can't keep driving and they open the

front and they find paco hiding inside

and it's like oh yeah this makes more

sense

the captain calls pete and dj into his

office and he threatens them with a whip

he holds them financially responsible

for all the damage to the ship from the

car

driving around paco it seems has been

put in a cage

below deck which is as timely an images

can be expected yeah

very uncomfortable uh dj hatches a plan

that he will talk to aunt louise about

loaning them money

to get their car back and pete is in

charge of flirting with the niece for no

apparent reason other than to just keep

her away while i think that keeps the

aunt happy

yeah yeah but it's like are you saying

that the aunt would know about the whole

arrangement

because i feel like she did know yeah

like but that wasn't their plan

that she knew but i feel like she would

have given them the money for the car

either way

they didn't need to be dating her niece

no but i think that she'd be more

inclined to be favorable to them if they

thought

if if she thought her plan to hook them

up was working

i guess maybe uh suddenly a halloween

party is happening

and this didn't work out too well on

death ship earlier this year but

the captain is dressed as admiral nelson

complete with an eye patch

and i checked it's the right eye he did

it correctly

aunt louise is flirting with him dressed

as little bo peep and the rest of the

cast is basically just dressed in their

own personal uniforms

so dj and pete have on uh pete's wearing

like a racing gear like a one of those

like fireproof racing

jumpsuits and dj looks like he's wearing

just a mechanic's outfit which is why i

thought he was the mechanic

alyssa is wearing like a full-on

explorer costume complete with a pith

helmet

she's out on the dance floor with pete

he's making quick work of flirting with

her

and he tells her that she's not like the

other girls which initially she doesn't

take as a compliment

but he says no no it's a good thing you

don't giggle when nothing's funny

you listen when i talk and you're very

pretty and he proves this to us

by taking her glasses off blinding her

he later walks her to her room and she

thanks him for a wonderful night still

blind

from having removed her glasses and she

kisses the blurry man

uh back in their rooms like he was

handsome right

i hope you're handsome back in their

room pete and

dj discussed the successful plan aunt

louise has agreed to pay for the car

and everything's going according to plan

i said playing a lot below decks paco

sits in a cage

on a blanket when herbie rolls up to the

gate

herbie begins speaking in short honks to

approximate words for what i want to say

is the first

and last time in this entire franchise

can we be friends

what's your name okay

he doesn't do this in the other movies i

don't remember trying to talk

yeah i mean he talks with

charades mostly not with actual like

like it's just very weird very bb-8 yeah

paco asks what his name is and not

understanding the beeps decides that

herbie is

ocho based on the five and three printed

on his hood

herbie uses his antenna as an appendage

to lift

keys off of a key rack to paco's cell

really hard time getting that key into

the lock yeah so then they just did a

cutaway insert of the lock being

finally unlocked yeah and it was like

yeah cuz that there's no way he could

he could unlock it blindly from the

other side he opens the cage

and lets paco hop inside of him to

escape recapture

ocho pulls into an elevator and presses

the button to go up

to the deck with all the passengers so

he uses antennae again to push buttons i

think he does

back of the costume party the captain

continues speaking

about capturing people from other ships

which you're not supposed to do if

you're a cruise ship captain

i mean do you think he's making all of

these stories up i'm sure he is

but i also don't know why he's doing

that because these people can't possibly

believe that he did these things

but who knows maybe he's very old school

maybe he's a vampire

and he did these things i don't know

paco comes blasting through the wall

in ocho and they knock over people and

tables

and a giant pie gets thrown right in the

captain's face

and he's not happy about it so we cut

right to herbie's punishment

where he is being made to walk the plank

and by walk the plank i mean walt disney

pictures dumped a full-on volkswagen bug

in the ocean

off the side of a cruise ship

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it's never to be retrieved this is very

upsetting

i hope this was the first take because

if there's

multiple cars out there that's that's

not good it's all these herbies but like

in addition to

it feeling just incredibly wasteful it

was a sad moment

you were killing the car yeah and we get

more of that later too where it's just

like this is weird for like what's

supposed to be a kids movie that we're

watching herbie die

in the first movie there's the scene

where

dean jones gets another car like a

sports car

that he wants to race and he's like look

at how pretty that car is and he comes

back out

in the middle of the night and herbie is

just ramming it into the side of his

house like just

bashing in the side of this other car

and then he leaves

and then dean jones chases it on foot

and he finds herbie trying to jump off

the golden gate

it's bridge dark yeah but here we're

just watching him be murdered so that's

a little better i guess

the captain shouts i hear with committed

to the sea which reminded me of

death ship again

he throws the body overboard the ship

pulls into panama

doug pete aunt louise and melissa are

forced off

along with paco who's handed over to the

immigration authorities aunt louise says

that anyone even remotely involved with

the car has been ejected from the cruise

it hadn't been for that steward we'd

have been kill-hauled

which is another crazy dark thing that

uh

yeah you had to explain that to me where

you would like chain up

your prisoner or the person being

punished and drag them under the ship

yeah to their death and generally the

barnacle ridden

underside of a ship would just tear them

to shreds

it's ridiculous but it's a funny joke

here

uh the boys come clean to aunt louise

about their plan

and melissa overhears the last bit when

pete is asking louise to break it to her

gently

she pushes past them and says you meet

such interesting types on ships

because she heard everything and pete's

embarrassed but i really don't feel like

he said

anything really negative i thought he

said that he wasn't interested yeah he

did

yeah well i think that's negative that

but it's not like he he said i'm waiting

for him no

but he he didn't put it in such a way

like

it's like i was only using her to get to

your money like it was

he was like trying to let her down easy

like like he was

very apologetic i think what she's upset

about is that

he pretended like he was genuinely into

her

but it turns out that even with the

glasses off he was like meh

i think he is genuinely into her well

that's not what he's telling at louise

yeah

he would have just kept going along with

it if he was genuinely into her but he

says that he's not

he says look i like her she seems like a

really nice girl and i hope you'll break

it to her gently like

i'm done with her body because they're

parting ways yeah they're parting ways

you don't have to you both got dumped in

panama at the same time

you could get married right now because

they're on their way they're on their

way to different

places they can't stay together where

are they going they're going to rio

why are they going to rio their cars in

the ocean because that's where they

have to go no it's not

they don't have to go there anymore i

think that's a good point well then

where were aunt luis and melissa going

both of them got kicked off of the ship

here they're where they stay on the

cruise ship right but they have a final

destination

and they have the means to go there

right and they could continue to go

there they could book another cruise

they could book a cruise with these two

guys her

her niece and her her niece's boyfriend

and his friend and they could go

wherever they want

because these guys have no plan now

their car got dumped off the boat they

also have no money to go anywhere

aunt louise has all the money anyone

needs she's a rich lady

all right melissa's carrying 500 in cash

in her purse

someone tries to push paco off to

immigration authorities but

he gets intercepted by john vernon

posing as the juvenile authority

and paco says no he's not and he kicks

him in the shin and runs for it

we get this weird shot of herbie

floating through the panama canal

which draws the attention of the canal

employees paco notices too

somewhere in the trivia i saw that

herbie is actually the first car to pass

through the panama canal i assume

by floating in the water because i think

lots of cars are

shipped through this port but uh this

would imply that the

the sun princess also went through the

panama canal possibly

yeah but if that's the case and this

herbie was the first car to go through

this port

i'm sure he's also the last car to go

through the port

in the water because why would another

car ever do that this marks the first of

two consecutive movies that disney

released

in which a non-boat pretends to be a

vote paco notices ocho in the water and

swims out to rescue him with the help of

several other adult men

they get ocho to the shore but ocho

seems pretty dead and

the men make plans to strip him for

parts paco constructs a small burial

mound around him

and mourns his death but then he just

comes back to life

yeah as paco was walking away herbie

just chokes back to life just starts

coughing up smoke and

then paco was like all right i gotta

drive you out of here before these

people take you apart

we get a montage of them just having fun

driving together

under a song about friendship that ends

with i'll bet you a banana manana you'll

have a new friend

either later that night or the next

morning i can't tell because we're

indoors and it's

relatively dark but paco is painting the

word taxi on the side of ocho

they're in like a shed i don't know if

they just snuck into somebody's shed and

used their paint

but uh it seems like paco's plan is to

use osho as a taxi to make money

and he's surprised when the garage door

opens to reveal that the bad guys found

them somehow

yeah i was like wait what it's like

check that [ __ ] over there

uh they are there for the film strip

that he stole

and he can't find it

and he doesn't have it so he's

suggesting that it's possible they got

mixed up and ended up in pete's wallet

or dj's wallet i can't remember

whose wallet it was i think it was dj's

wallet but uh

then they threatened to burn him with a

blowtorch well oh wait herbie

yeah but at first it looks like they're

like i'm gonna cut your legs off kid

like they

they pop up this blowtorch and light it

and then they're like all right we're

gonna chop your car up to pieces but

they don't know this car's alive i don't

know why they would make this threat

just seems like an odd choice they're

gonna sell it

they're gonna sell the pieces right he

said they're gonna chop it up into tiny

pieces

like i assumed like smaller than

resellable parts but maybe

i mean i think the point is that they

were going that they're trying to scrap

the car

yeah but they could do that with any car

but then they let paco go

to get the wallet and they let him go

with herbie

yeah so now they have nothing now they

have no leverage yeah

he can just drive away forever that's

true because he doesn't need

gas right he does try to do that no he

goes to get the wallet first

he he follows through with their plan as

if her not completely

we'll get there so back downtown

in i guess panama pete and gj have

somehow already secured jobs as waiters

and they're blaming the kid for all

their troubles when suddenly he shows up

to apologize

and he asks for pete's forgiveness and

gives him a big hug

and then he asks where the bathroom is

so pete points him in that direction

and then realizes that his wallet is

missing again and that paco has

disappeared through the back window of

the restrooms

paco escapes in ocho and instead of just

bringing the wallet back to the bad guys

he drives right past them and uh he gets

stuck in traffic for a second but

right as he stops aunt louise and

captain blyth are getting into his cab

from opposite sides

unfortunately in a volkswagen bug

there's only two doors

so to get into this car at the same time

they would have had to fold down the

entire front seat

but somehow they're able to do that

without crushing paco

they get into the back they recognize

each other and the captain wants to go

to the sun princess and she wants to go

to some hotel or something

and so they're both shouting back and

forth that their driver who they haven't

noticed is very small

and they continue for a couple minutes

before they recognize the not only the

kid but the car

that they threw in the ocean earlier and

here's the biggie

i think it's the same car and uh the

chase begins

as the bad guys start following this cab

with louise and blythe screaming in the

back seat

they race past melissa on the sidewalk

she's standing with pete and dj

and uh she says oh they shang hide them

like she thinks that paco was like

kidnapped aunt louise

and so she needs a car so she runs over

to a bus nearby

and just stops in front of it and offers

the driver 340 dollars for the bus

and he kicks off all of his passengers

who are mostly children

it's probably not even his bus he's

probably just driving them for

a school and he's just like yeah sure

it's your boss spy

somehow the chase leads them all to a

bull fighting ring and

i forget how but the bad guys end up in

front so they end up entering the ring

before

ocho and they actually crash into the

bowl

in the ring they like nudge him in the

butt and it pisses the bull off

the matador's mad because two cars just

rolled into

this the bull fight that he's supposed

to be doing yeah and it looks like el

presidente

is is uh overseeing this particular

event oh is he really

i didn't realize that well there was a

there's like a guy in like a huge

uniform interesting and i'm just

assuming he's supposed to be a very

important person yeah uh the matador

throws his cape over the rear-view

mirror

of the car um and he walks out of the

ring

and we see this overhead shot where the

bull clearly runs full speed into the

side of an actual car which bothers me a

lot

because i feel like you could definitely

hurt this bull doing this but he flips

the car up on one side

and the bad guys all climb out of it and

run to jump over into the stands

the bull turns its attention on herbie

for

what i would call a slightly overlong

bullfighting sequence

during which the bull connects multiple

times with the sight of an actual vw bug

eventually herbie uses his hood to sweep

the cape around

as if he were an actual matador and also

to stop the dirt by spinning his wheels

ocho pops up on his back wheels to avoid

a swipe from the bowl and the crowd

loves it

at this point the bull basically

surrenders it's just done chasing him

around in the ring

and the captain wants to be mad but he's

also infatuated with

the adulation of the crowd he's like oh

this is great and then another adventure

for me to tell people about

and then there's this really weird shot

of

herbie rotating in place yeah it's a

it's like a blue screen shot yeah but

it's like we've already seen herbie

turn his wheels completely sideways to

move out of a position on

in the cargo ship yeah he didn't need to

just spin on the floor here yeah it's

just like

you could they couldn't have built an

actual car just to rotate in place

like yeah they they built all these

other versions could you also drive it

in a circle

i'm assuming it's just a situation where

they forgot to get it on set yeah

they needed to fake it when they weren't

there anymore also i really

get upset watching this movie seeing her

be in the condition that he's in

throughout throughout there were 26

vehicles used as herbie in this yeah

yeah but there are

there were 86 but they were all painted

up like

rusted with with a few it's not real

rust it's all paint yeah yeah

um but it's just like i don't know it's

just really upsetting to see him all

like messed up yeah well they fix him up

in the other movies don't worry i was

expecting like a uh

you know like the end of star wars where

the robots were all shiny yeah

in the movie but that doesn't happen yes

it does i mean he's not

all shiny he's still isn't is he's still

rusty no he's brandon he's like all new

okay

and then we'll get into that because i

have a really big problem with that

scene too

uh pogo and ocho leave when they see the

bad guys are headed for them again

and uh the captain and aunt louise

basically have to catch a ride on

melissa's bus as it's moving through

town

but the bus is constantly breaking down

and uh

at one point they need a wire to fix it

and louise asks a local

for a wire and when he doesn't

understand her she helpfully explains

it sounds like fire as though he

couldn't tell

that those two words sounded similar but

then he tries to give them fire

and the captain is trying and failing to

call for help

on a phone he's trying to get a ride

back to the sun princess because he

doesn't want to be a part of this

adventure anymore

the bad guys in a plane find ocho

driving down a road

and uh they just track him

paco parks ocho in what looks like

griffith park

i'm pretty sure it's griffith park and

uh he steps into a bar

but it turns out the bad guys are

waiting there to steal him in front of

apparently complicit panamanians or

wherever we are yeah this time they're

just taking the boy

yeah who now has the wallet with the

thing that they need right

the bus breaks down again and ocho pulls

up to

aunt louise and the boys and melissa and

the captain

and they all hop into this tiny car the

bad guys

with paco and toe find the incan ruins

and they're able to pry loose this large

gold coin from the face of it well it's

like they're immediately there

yeah they somehow found a place to land

and

and then drove to it and then

immediately found a building that had

gold and they were already in

in process of pulling it down yeah and

it's like the size of a deep dish pizza

it's like a huge it's like a manhole

yeah you know it's massive they

basically just leave this kid at the

temple

and take the coin and then drive away

because they just want him to die in

these

woods basically um but

very quickly herbie pulls up with

everyone and they collect paco and he

says

what that they stole the coin and this

is an ancient incan temple

it's not really a coin well he tells

them that they stole some gold

off of it i would call it a coin it's

coin shaped yeah but it's the size of a

manhole cover like medallion is that

better

what would you call it a disc circle

yeah a circle of gold a circle of gold

it's like a table top yeah um the lazy

susan of gold

i'll accept oh good compromise

uh paco tells them that they stole this

this circle of gold

and they head to a university to report

the

theft of the artifact uh for some reason

they cover ocho in bananas

on the way there even though the bad

guys shouldn't really care about them

anymore

um yeah and why do they go to the

university like i mean i understand why

the good guys

go but why did why it turns out that the

bad guys only go there to intercept them

because they're afraid that the police

they're they're going to call the police

on them but

wouldn't they have done that wouldn't

that have happened anyway like wasn't

paco going to report them to the police

if he survived because then all they do

is tie them

up at the university yeah where

someone's going to find them and call

the police immediately yeah they find a

bunch of people

it's much more suspicious than a dead

kid in the woods

patrick mills from experience trust me

nobody asks

any questions outside paco is just

selling bananas off the car in the

parking lot

and uh the bad guy who is a pilot starts

up their plane

the bad guys are struggling to move the

coin from their car to their plane

the circle of gold sorry the circle of

gold from the card of the plane

when ocho starts throwing bananas at

them they're they're attached all over

its hood and it's just opening its hood

and throwing

hands of bananas at them and they're

just covered in

like bananas it's real gross yeah it

makes me uncomfortable they're slimy

with it for like the whole rest of the

movie

ocho won't let this plane take off and

starts biting it

with its hood like it keeps opening its

hood and closing its hood and trying to

like

bite chunks out of it eventually it's

ocho succeeds in

busting off the tail and wings of this

plane

paco's friends successfully untie

themselves in the professor's office

and the chase is on again the cops

like a military team that were headed to

the university

are now chasing with ocho uh to follow

the bad guys in this plane like

what's left of the plane which is just

the body and the wheels basically

and uh they chase it down the road until

it crashes into a roadblock

and even the prop falls off no there's

like nothing left to this plane

as it tips backward the coin rolls sorry

the circle of gold

rolls out of the back and uh the bad

guys are all arrested

and uh we're back on the sun princess in

the captain's quarters where louise is

dancing for him

and he says any man of the sea who

wouldn't want her rolling under him is

ready for a dry dock

but it's clear pretty quickly that he's

referring to the galleon outside of the

ship

um we cut to pete and dj's room where

somehow ojo is parked

in their cabin of the ship yeah there's

no way the car could have gotten in

there yeah

but they're like they somehow drove it

in there and they have decided that paco

will drive it for the grand premier

because clearly paco has

some supernatural connection to the car

and then they start it up inside the

room

because they're all going to commit

suicide now and this is where i got

really worried i'm like

okay well now we're going to get to the

big race in rio

because now that we've got all our ducks

in a row we can in a rio

we're gonna we're gonna see the big

finish of this movie with this race that

they've been talking

about throughout the whole movie right i

have to say

this movie gets an unfair

criticism a lot of people say that it's

not the best that it's the worst of the

herbie franchise

and i disagree because there is no race

at the end of this movie what

because the races are the worst parts of

the herbie movies

they're the best parts i'm cool with car

chases like through cities and

so the cars the car chase actual races

are not fun

so the car chase in herbie 2 when

they're chasing the old lady around

while she's trying to get her grocery

list in order yes that was better

that's better than the last 20 years

because of the first of the golden gate

bridge

yes and then they're running up the

golden gate bridge after yes

because they can run car speed

[Laughter]

uh we of course here we have the credits

um over the friendship song again and

that's the end of the film

uh disney followed this installment with

five episodes of a tv series

again starring dean jones and then a tv

movie in the late 90s with bruce

campbell

yeah and matt dillon i think right now

matt dillon was in her be fully loaded

oh okay in this movie he's

never actually called herbie this one he

gets called herbie once at the

yard where they're picking him up oh

they do okay he's reading a message from

mr douglas

which is the guy's uncle's name and he

says something like uh

herbie c herbie stop or something like

that i can't remember what he says but

he says herbie's name

you're telling me that this thing won

the monte carlo grand prix

that is what senor douglas he told me he

said he will have one debugger race too

but his girlfriend did not make the curb

herbie he see it he stopped

shino finished the race senor douglas

say

it's here and then the rest of the movie

he's ocho basically yeah but the guys in

that like none of the

characters actually like call him that

right yeah nobody calls him herbie and

then after the bruce campbell won

we had herbie fully loaded in 2005 with

lindsay lohan and michael keaton

and that's the one that has matt dillon

the bad guy breckenmeier is her brother

and uh and justin long is like the

mechanic for that one

it's actually pretty decent i didn't

hate it i think that one gets a bad rap

too it's i probably like

it because it was written by thomas

lennon and robert bengarant who are two

of my favorite screenwriters

but that's going to lead me into some

non-canon sequels

uh the first being two years after fully

loaded uh another

favorite writing team of mine kurtzman

and orky wrote a script that was then

directed by the great michael bay

that's the first transformers film

the first transformers movie i'm fairly

confident stole

one scene beat for beat from herbie

fully loaded which

i think maybe even the transformers

animated series used to bug because

bugs were cute because herbie was a love

bug

but the scene where lindsay lohan gets

herbie it's her graduation day

her dad is taking her to get her a car

which is the same way transformers opens

it's his graduation day his dad is

taking to get him a car he goes to a

junkyard slash

car lot and she's looking at all the

cars and she's

specifically avoiding the bug because

she doesn't want the bug and she sees

other cars that she likes

and the guy running the place is like oh

you should get this other one and she's

like oh yeah i really like that one

and he's trying to gouge her on the

price and then

the anthropomorphic car starts

destroying all the other cars in the lot

so that the guy at the junkyard will get

rid of that car and it's the exact same

scene that happens in the transformers

movie

with bernie mac where the cars are all

getting destroyed i was just like this

is really too

close and to have come out two years

before i feel like they just borrowed

this

like whole cloth from herbie fully

loaded

but uh the rest of the movie has nothing

to do with her be fully loaded so

good job on the rest of it because i

actually really like that movie

the director here was vincent mcaveedy

uh he does a lot of disney features he

did million dollar duck

strongest man in the world the apple

dumpling gang rides again

and he also directed the previous herbie

film herbie and monte carlo

or herbie goes to monte carlo he also

did a lot of golden age tv

untouchables star trek original series

gunsmoke

and he came back for a couple episodes

of the 1982 series

uh herbie series and later he did like

murder she wrote colombo diagnosis

murder

uh the writer for this was don tate who

also did a bunch of disney stuff he

wrote both

apple dumpling gang movies and the

shaggy d.a

flores leachman was aunt louise she's

great she was ruth popper in the last

picture show

she was frau bloker in young

frankenstein

she's gran in the croods movies both of

them because there's a second one coming

she plays granny in a lot of things yeah

and then she plays

mama on raising hope but she was not in

my episode

credit only for my episode she also

plays gam gam

in beer fest which is one of my favorite

characters from her

and she's also the voice of old

marceline on adventure time

yeah uh i i liked her in bad santa

where they keep thinking she's dead and

then she just keeps getting back up

which is kind of funny because she was a

she was an old lady in this movie

she's still around and she's still

hilarious charles martin smith was dj

i probably recognize him most from

untouchables in american graffiti

he's also in more american graffiti

which i have not seen

i mostly know him from starman and oh

yeah gina davis

see a cop or something in that no he's a

scientist who's out who's trying to

catch him he's trying to catch him for

good though like yeah

um and then uh he's really great and

speechless with

gina davis and michael keaton speechless

that's the the director of tremors ron

underwood

uh i don't know that one no yeah they're

both they're both speech writers for

uh opposing campaigns but they need each

other and they don't know

that they're the they keep giving each

other advice but they don't know that

they're like the opposing team's writers

yeah um it's really wonderful it's got

christopher reeve and um

i said charles martin smith isn't that

you said ron underwood directed yeah i

believe so

i like him we met him at that tremor

screening

um charles martin smith was also the

vice president and left behind

three yeah ronaldo was speechless

cool did uh did brent uh matic write

it because i know he works with ronaldo

robert king oh i don't

know that one um john vernon was prindle

uh he's obviously dean warmer in animal

house and reprised the role for 13

episodes of delta house the tv show

based on animal house

which had a surprising number of the

cast come back from the movie i didn't

realize

i mean obviously you don't have belushi

tv show for that yeah it's got bruce

mcgill it's got stephen first

um a couple other guys he's also the

mayor and dirty harry

he's also the voice of rupert thorne on

batman the animated series

and he played dave ryerson in the

gauntlet

season one episode four of macgyver

stephen w burns was pete this was his

second to last film before stryker in

1985

and uh very tragically he was injured in

a car accident

and infected with hiv by an emergency

blood transfusion and died of

complications from aids in 1990

so that's sad i hope that the car

accident had nothing to do with this

movie

uh no it didn't because he did a movie

in 1985

so well just just because you

get a car accident doesn't mean you

can't do another movie yes it does

there's a rule

alyssa davalos played melissa

uh she's miss millie gaskill in the

apple dumpling gang rides again with the

same director and writer

and she was also nikki carpenter that's

right on the macgyver series

she's the closest thing to a love

interest that he ever had on the show

for like long-term love interest other

than penny parker's more of a sister

character yeah

and but she also played uh a short-lived

character right in the same season and

at the beginning of the first season it

was a two-part episode called lost love

she played a character named lisa kohler

and then that character i think died

left and uh then they brought her back

as this other character

um joaquin gouare iii played

paco his dad was actually the voice of

panchito

in the three caballeros and as an adult

he has worked a lot with

improv teams in the los angeles area

including the groundlings and improv

olympics

his daughter has continued the disney

tradition as the main character

of the disney plus series diary of a

future president which i see

constantly it's like on the front page

of disney plus right now and we also had

a chance to sit down with him

and talk about his experience working on

the film oh what

what why don't you guys tell me about

these things so why don't we

play that for you now

[Music]

well i really appreciate you taking the

time to speak with us today

my pleasure my pleasure well first of

all i guess i wanted to ask what was

your process for getting this role

wow well um i actually started acting in

1973.

so by 78 when i auditioned for this you

know i had been working a long time a

lot of people think that was my first

job or

or one of the first but by then you know

kind of a seasoned

child actor how old were you when you

started then oh i was

i was five years old wow i was born 68

so

um i was 5 and 73 i was on the show

called

what was the bill cosby variety show

okay

um on channel 4 nbc and i was just one

of the kids on that show that was my

first job

but by the time i auditioned for herbie

i was

10. and uh really it was just another

you know

my the agent got the breakdown

sent my picture in and i was called in

there was about like 500 kids you know

500 boys oh wow

at the beginning and we you know i went

in and

auditioned call back call back you know

we

narrowed down to a few kids and then at

the end

we did a screen test the funny thing

about that

is that i was on another show called the

alegre which was a bilingual children's

show

in the 70s okay um and it started in 70

and it

ended in 80 but i was on that show from

uh 75 to 80.

and on that show that we were a bunch of

kids and one of the boys his name is

david giannis

actually was the last kid that screen

tested against me

so we were we were we knew each other we

were friends

uh it just so happens that we were the

last two boys we did screen tests

at disney studios and i booked it and he

didn't so wow

yeah had you seen the earlier herbie

movies oh yeah by that time

i mean one of my favorite movies growing

up was herbie the love bug the first one

okay um herbie writes again her because

money carla were great but uh

her the first one is my favorite but um

by then uh yeah big big fan of disney

and herbie of course

yeah uh my dad being um one of the

disney

legends right uh for voice for my dad

was a

did you know my dad was uh yeah he's

panchito right right so

you know big disney fan by then so

that's awesome very excited to work with

uh

kirby when i was looking through the

shooting locations for the film it looks

like it was kind of split between

southern california and then a bit in

mexico and a very small

bit of in panama yes did you travel a

lot for the film oh yeah yeah i think

it's different

uh now but you know back in those days i

think especially the

pre eisner uh you know it took a long

time to make a film you know three or

four months

sure um nowadays they do it in 30 days

you know they think so

much compressed but um yeah we traveled

a lot and not only that my mom my dad

and my little brother ricky who's seven

years younger than me

we they all went along with me so you

know we went to mexico

panama so you had an entourage with you

i did it i did have an entourage

but uh they all came along so it was

kind of fun kind of a family trip

work you know i also noticed looking

through some of the locations the climax

of the film where the plane is being

destroyed was actually filmed in

camarillo

which is actually camera that's where

we're recording this podcast right now

oh my gosh i grew up in camarilla so

it's just funny yeah it's um

it's a retreat or a seminary or

something right

right i think the i think the land has

all been torn down for

some kind of development now but that's

what oh my gosh okay

in the puerto vallarta scenes it seems

like you're getting shoved around

a lot very close to moving cars how

carefully was that traffic coordinated

well you know what again um very

interesting um

you know i've been at this so long now

that um

i worked in the industry when it wasn't

very safe honestly

and um i always say pre-twilight zone

movie

yeah because yeah because after that

when those two

children got killed and did morrow uh by

the helicopter

i think things changed a great deal

but my whole career as a child actor

before that

um we took a lot of risks not only in

herbie but

you know i did westerns and i did uh you

know i was

on a show called code red about firemen

i i got lit on fire oh my gosh

yeah so those things you're watching

uh we had a great stunt man of course

buddy joe hooker

uh who is um i think he's the president

of stunts unlimited now

but um he's very famous stuntman

and he was the coordinator and he and i

worked a lot together

because he drove the car yeah uh the

special car

so to make it look like it was driving

itself oh that makes sense yeah

yeah he was in the back backseat that's

another story but

um it was very i think it was more

dangerous than it would be now

my daughter has been an actress uh for a

long time so

i've seen that things have changed a

great deal you know yeah

that's good it's progress yes for sure

but it was fun

you know i i didn't you know you tell me

what to do and i do it i i was

kind of a child actor so i don't know it

was fun so

what was it like working with harvey

corman and cloris leachman oh my gosh

well of course both legends yeah

both very funny comedians which i that's

my forte's comedy yes

and um you know we're growing up

watching the car burnett show

harvey was one of my favorite actors so

it was a dream come true really i mean

when you get to work with somebody that

you're you idolize and you look up to

yeah and of course of course she's been

fine actress uh but i wasn't really a

fan of hers

as much as i was harvey sure you know he

and i

uh he taught me a lot during that

shooting about improv

about comedy uh timing and we

we were friends after so after the

shooting uh we stayed friends

well that's great yeah any other fun

recollections from your time on the set

i've always enjoyed being on a set my my

wife um

that i've been married to for almost 27

years now says i either grew up i was

either on a set growing up

or in a restaurant because my parents

owned a restaurant

okay so you know i was really at home on

set you know and especially at the

disney studios because again this is a

long time ago

78.79 um i i

you know i probably shouldn't have but i

sneaked around the studio

saw things that i probably shouldn't

have seen or been you know my daughter's

very very you know she likes to follow

the rules and she's very

you know by the book so we'll be on uh

at a studio a lot you know maybe uh

she's auditioning and i'm like hey let's

walk over here and go in the studio

it's in there and she says no you can't

do that you know so uh i was the

opposite i

snuck around and saw stuff that i

probably shouldn't have um so that was a

lot of fun for me you know i mean

growing up as a child actor i obviously

loved it

so i love just being on set honestly but

watching you know

how they did because they had 27 herbies

i don't know if you knew that

yeah in those days again i always sound

like an old man but in those days

um everything was mechanical there was

really no cgi you know blue screen but

so everything um every car had its own

specialty you know

and that's why they had so many yeah it

was fun watching them do that

did you ever see the herbie fully loaded

i did what did you think of that one

i enjoyed it yeah there was there was

some kind of back and forth

uh for me to try to be in it as a cameo

but uh that didn't work out

okay at the beginning you see like a

flash it looks like

they dressed a child in my outfit oh

really

if you remember the movie at the

beginning it's like kind of like like

newspaper stuff yeah the montage of all

the previous films

and i'm in there for my character i

guess yeah

um but i enjoyed it you know i i still

love herbie to this day and uh

seeing him on the screen was great you

know it was it was different

than what i'm was used to but that's

what happens when things get redone or

you know revisited yeah but i was

disappointed like you said to

to not have the the practical visual

effects for the car that they use so

much cg for it

right because it's a different world you

know

yeah and i love michael keaton oh yeah

of course

just so you know yeah everybody does

whatever he's in i love watching this i

don't care

so yes that was a plus um i know your

family has all kinds of disney

connections with your father having been

ponchito your daughter

is uh obviously on the disney plus show

the diary of a future president

that just got picked up for a second

season did it that's great yep

i uh i just wanted to say i watched a

couple episodes to prepare for this with

my daughter and she was

totally into it she was oh my gosh yeah

crazy how is she got her

uh she's six right now she's gonna be

seven soon but she was totally

on board with the story and your

daughter's doing a great job on there

well good thank you i'll let her know

she'd be very happy to hear that was

there anything else that you or carmina

have coming up soon that you might want

to plug on the show

i have a film coming out um i have a

small part it's called shadows

okay it's kind of a action

movie uh i play a low-level drug dealer

uh and for this part i really um i did a

lot of prepping uh

i gained 25 pounds stopped working out i

shaved my head

you know so i looked bolder okay so so

uh that's gonna come out soon i hope i

mean you know

in this new world we were gonna have the

premiere in august so

right who knows what's gonna happen so i

don't know if it's gonna go straight to

a platform

but uh that's the movie that i'm in that

i'm doing

uh carmine of course is uh we're in

negotiations now for her second season

that's great guy every future president

she's also on 10 15.

okay that season she did not think one

episode uh she just finished the connors

and she did the last the

second the last episode of that she was

one of the few ever to be

they normally only use their cast they

don't get other actors

to come in sure yeah she's one of the

few to ever been

cast outside the original cast so that

was fun

that's awesome and it was great meeting

of course you know john goodman and all

the cats

of course yeah and uh alexis and katie

she's on that too

the exact specifics of that one i don't

know

shame on me but um

and uh i don't know if you knew this too

but uh from facebook but i am

i was at january i started uh making a

documentary about my father

oh okay and his career and his life

and it is called the mexican tenor

and uh it's all about his career and his

life and uh

of course disney is in it of course the

three cavallos

so i'm working on that now again it was

put on pause because

of what's happening right and then i'm

always doing

improv shows i'm doing stand up

you know trying to keep busy auditioning

sure now i also wanted to ask these are

some

some non-canon theories that i had okay

what are your thoughts

on my theory that the herbie movies and

the transformers movies take place in

the same universe

wow because we have the volkswagen bug

that starts that movie

right i think it's just bumblebee yeah i

never thought about it

um i also noticed when i was doing my

imdb hunting

it looks like you're you're you have a

stepsister named linda

yeah linda gray uh-huh and she appeared

in a movie called mother jugs and speed

oh my gosh i remember that my dad took

me to see it which i probably shouldn't

have gone to

but yeah she played a pregnant woman

well my dad worked on that movie he was

a um

he was an advisor because he was a emt

with los angeles

oh wow what what his fault i'm telling

you what a small world huh

well i really appreciate the time that

you've you've shared with us today

well i appreciate it thank you so much

it's been a pleasure talking to you and

uh

i always enjoy talking about my career

and especially herbie

uh those bananas because it was a

special time for me

harvey corman was captain blyth uh

he was hedy lamarr in blazing saddles

not

hedy it's headley he plays count to

money in

history of the world part 1.

he's also the president in jingle all

the way which uh when we were reviewing

holy moses we were like

because lorraine newman has the credit

of first lady and we were like is she

actually the first lady i don't remember

the president in there

but it's in a turbo man episode that the

president shows up so

him and laura newman uh were the

president and first lady in jingle all

the way

and he's also the voice of the great

gazoo yeah behind the flintstones

uh i mean regular on the carol burnett

show he was a

he's a legend um richard jakel plays

shepherd that was the pilot of the uh

of the three bad guys he plays charlie

prince in the original 310 to yuma

he's george fox and starman with uh with

dj

and he's also a character in bloodsong

which is that movie we mentioned in our

defiance review that luca bratzy wrote

about

a serial killer who's trying to kill a

girl who took his blood

alex rocco was quinn that's the the

quiet

uh darker-haired guy of the bad guy team

he played mo green

and the godfather and uh he's jake

in the stuntman which is right around

the corner for us just a couple episodes

down the line uh vito scotty played

armando mochia that's the uh

guy that was trying to eat his food

before the car ate it

um he plays nazarene and godfather um

he's also the italian cat in the

aristocats

and he played an italian delegate in the

nude bomb for us earlier this year

jack perkins is credited as loud

american i don't know who that would be

any american yeah but

he was the drunk convention goer in the

elevator and happy hooker with the big

boss

oh yeah yeah and herbie is credited as

itself on imdb someone made a imdb page

for herbie

which unfortunately uh it has all the

films and tv show credits you would

expect

and then one credit you wouldn't see

grazed

gmod shorts a fan made web series that

also stars

sonic the hedgehog spyro spider-man mega

man

and the iron giant also the orange

inkling girl

it's just like some dumb youtube video

that a guy made an imdb page

for and because it had a cg model of

herbie in it he put it on

herbie's imdb page i hope he doesn't get

sued

no he won't get sued it's just going to

get taken down uh i also wanted to bring

up

uh fritz feld who played the chief

steward

um he he is a weird character actor

who's mostly known for playing mater d's

uh he played the mater d in uh the

second herbie movie

uh and when they go when they drive when

herbie drives to the restaurant

yeah he's known for doing this thing

with his mouth where he

pops he throws his hands his mouth and

pops he does it in every film that he's

in

and he when he does it in this movie he

like frightens the past

he also most notably does it in history

of the world another harvey korman

connection

in which when uh uh mel brooks as

uh comicus is uh working at the

restaurant where the

the where they do the last supper yeah

bit and he's like the maitre d of the

restaurant who's telling him to you know

push the mulled wine

yeah so i just wanted to bring him up

because he's just known for playing

mater d's

and popping his mouth and popping his

mouth yeah interesting

this movie was all right it had a bad

rap so going in i expected it to be

worse

but having seen all of the herbie movies

now

over the course of a week i think that

this is not the worst one of them

i also appreciated that so much of it

was shot on location

where the first two movies they take

place in san francisco and there is some

footage in san francisco

but so much of it is soundstage even

exteriors yeah that it's just

very frustrating to watch and at least

in this film whenever they were outside

they were actually outside

just up or down uh you know

like you said it's not it wasn't

terrible

it wasn't i mean there was a lot of fun

moments

but i don't think i'm gonna go out and

recommend anybody specifically watch

this

so i guess that means it's a down for me

yeah i i think for

for me as well that this is not a

must-see

title like i said it was it was fine

it's not as bad as some of the herbie

movies

but uh again it's not something that you

have to go out and check out

uh i agree it's a it's gonna be a down

for me as much as i love

herbie and i do really like the herbie

movies as a whole yeah

i i i think that it's a really fun

concept

that uh has never really

it's always been true to the concept

yeah like

her herbie has never gone to space or

learned to talk

or or like her that's right here yeah

but but the concept of herbie has always

been and i don't in this one i don't

even like that his eyes

move yeah and he does some goofy stuff

yeah you know his headlights yeah

uh i don't like that that happens in

herbie fully loaded

he does some moves that look like kind

of like the mask

a little bit where you have a fully cg

car replacing him and he like

stretches out and does a bunch of crazy

stuff behind somebody and that bothered

me a little bit

yeah because i like that i felt like it

was a real car

in the first few movies because is it

this is the first one where he gets cut

in half right and he comes in first and

third yeah

yes uh so i i like that they haven't

done anything too crazy with herbie

but uh it's still gonna be a down yeah

uh letterboxed what are we looking at

richard um i think i'm going to put

this between midnight madness

and the nude bomb okay uh i have it just

above holy moses and just below

humanoids from the deep okay um i

am putting this just above windows and

just under bronco billy

um i think that's everything for this

one if you guys have any thoughts you'd

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when we'll be discussing the last flight

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so

when a plane carrying various animals

makes a forced landing on a desert

island

the only chance to escape is to convert

the plane into a boat

we leave you now with the trailer for

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say hello to noah dugan professional

pilot

professional loser

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what the hell did i get into

you shouldn't curse him for a lady now

look kid don't you tell me how to talk

watching his luck change from bad to

worse

in the last flight of noah's ark

we're running out of gas

hold on

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forgot

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make a boat out of what out of brain

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a daring escape from an uncharted island

challenging the sea with an impossible

voyage against all hope

against noah dugan's luck

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elliot gould when the hell are you gonna

do that thick scully earth to do what

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jean-vivo joe ricky schroeder i'm sorry

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incredible drama and adventure

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