we're on a mission from god wendy so i got that going darling looks like i picked the wrong way to quit sniffing blue light of my life we enjoy your films i thought they smelled bad on the outside [Music] welcome to vintage video where we're re-watching the 80s so you don't have to we'll be reviewing every major film release of the 1980s in real time over analyzing what you've seen and spoiling what you haven't i'm patrick o'reilly i'm jesse bayless and i'm richard wells and today marks the 40th anniversary of the release of the stuntman on june 27 1980. it was written by lawrence b marcus and richard rush based on the stuntman by paul brodar or broder not sure directed by richard rush and released by 20th century fox in the 70s the rights to the novel were held by colombia who had considered arthur penn and francois truffaut to direct at different times there was a novel like i'm having a hard time imagining this i mean i had a hard time works better as a movie yeah yeah well yeah maybe it works better than the novel but i still had a hard time understanding what was happening yeah francois truffaut would have been a very unusual version of this movie as well it would have been it still would have been fun but i think richard rush did it right eventually they settled on richard rush based on the strength of his recent release getting straight and william castle was on board to ep uh william castle was the inspiration for john goodman's character in joe dante's matinee he was a longtime b horror director out of columbia pictures and he was famous for his theatrical gimmicks for example house on haunted hill was presented in emergo which was a fancy way of saying that a skeleton with red eyes would be strung up on a wire and swung over the audience during the film's climax that's awesome his film it's like those crappy you know rides at theme parks when you get like squirt with water exactly that's talking about shrek 40 or anything no not at all uh but that's all based on his work uh his film the tingler was presented in percepto which meant that the chair would vibrate suddenly at the end of the film when one of the monsters appears to have escaped the film into the theater oh d-box yeah basically but it would only shake like one chair at a time so you could follow the screens and figure out where it was in the theater i i hate d-box because it sounds like a bathroom code yeah i gotta use the d-box but i actually like d-box it's the experience yeah i only ever did it for fast five i was going to say i think we only ever went to one movie but it was awesome that it was the exact movie that d-box was designed for truly his 1961 film homicidal had a fright break which featured a visible countdown during the movie the audience was given 45 seconds during the climax to leave before the time ran out and get a full refund if they were too frightened to finish the film so patrons collected their refunds from a yellow cardboard booth labeled coward's corner so if they were too scared to watch the the climax or they just really wanted their money back they had to go to this booth to get their money back and then other people would see them lined up and be like oh this movie's so scary i gotta see it now i want to know how successful that was i think pretty successful i mean his gimmicks in general are well remembered famous admirers of uh william castle include robert zemeckis and john waters who inspired by castle i'm sure presented his film polyester in smell-o-vision where they gave you a little card of scratch and sniff squares that you as you reached pivotal points in the film you would scratch them and smell what the characters were smelling i think that when they finally did like a dvd or blu-ray home release they include the cards with those as well that's definitely how i watched it the first time was with the card on the on the home release i wish you could smell what i'm smelling i don't know that's a reference to it's from the five guys [Music] oh yes when columbia turned down director russia's treatment for the film he bought the rights himself and shopped it around to studios on his own william castle suffered a fatal heart attack at 77 and rush then connected with melvin simon a real estate mogul turned film financier to produce the film it won several prestigious festival awards before they had locked down a distributor and it landed at 20th century fox other melvin simon productions include when a stranger calls zorro the gay blade and the porky's trilogy so it's neat that this guy was like made a bunch of money in real estate and was like i want to make movies and then he made some decent movies yeah also some less than decent movies but that's just i like that's the only way that a movie like the stunt man gets made is when there's a crazy person with a lot of money that's like this is a weird idea we're not sure how to sell it but i don't care here's your money make the movie yeah i was wondering about that because i just don't know who would have made this movie it's like the island in my head of like this would have been so hard to sell to the money people yes and then it still got made and it looks great it had to be expensive it had to be so expensive even with one location it looked super exciting because all of the battle scenes because that because that is a historical landmark that they're shooting squibs falling off of and they're building like facades on that on the roof of yeah it's like i i don't know how they got away with that how they got permission i almost the the i almost feel like well we'll get into it but i feel like the police chief character was added because of probably the real situation of making this movie that's funny um filming took place largely around the historic hotel de coronado in coronado california peter o'toole based his performance on his experience with david lean on the set of lawrence of arabia mixed with john huston once he had decided on o'toole and railsback for the lead characters director rush turned down opportunities to direct peter o'toole with jeff bridges or sean connery with steven railsback or george c scott with martin sheen over the course of a year and a half until his ideal cast was available who would have been who in that with martin sheen would martin sheen have been the george c scott is the old man and martin sheen is the stunt man we're not that long after apocalypse now yeah how old would he be he still would have been old i feel he would have been in his 40s i don't think so i feel like he would have been as old as the guy who teaches steve rails back how to be a stunt man that's i thought he was pretty young in uh apocalypse now and that was like three years before this how old is charlie sheen martin sheen was born in 1940 so he would have been 40 or like 30 something on the set yeah i still think that works at one point ryan o'neill was being considered for the railsback character richard rush saw steve railsback in helter skelter which was that tv movie by charles manson and he was like that's the guy who i want to play this character because steve railsback just is charles manson like he just looks exactly like him and acts like him so much during the production warner brothers wanted to release a film called the stuntman and went into arbitration with rush and they eventually lost so warner brothers had to change the title of their movie to hooper which is that film that we've discussed before with bert reynolds and jen michael vincent has done men and rush suffered two heart attacks during the production and post-production process the first cut was 150 minutes long in the end it was nominated for three oscars best actor for o'toole best director for rush and best adapted screenplay it won none of these unfortunately super surprised it was actually nominated for a bunch of stuff it was the only one that was nominated for director that wasn't nominated for picture that year wow i i don't know i don't feel that way about this movie i definitely do and it didn't get any kind of visual effects nomination went to i think is odd that is crazy like if any if any kind of nomination i would have thought visual effects yeah we start with a buzzard on a white background that is suddenly replaced with an actual background and like the buzzard is is was roto'd out of the shot and then drops into it and he is perched on a telephone pole he swoops down over a sleeping dog who wakes up and moves to lick his balls this took several takes they had to peanut butter up the dog's balls oh god usually you're not doing it on the dog's balls [Laughter] an animated slate clap starts clicking calling out you're just making this up right like you didn't actually find mdv trivia no really yes oh god okay oh it's not inhumane yeah right yes i guess no if the dog's happy then it's okay yeah dude he got peanut butter and his balls licked so yeah what more could you ask for how much of this is saying it none of it we haven't started yet an animated slate clap starts clicking and spelling out the film's credits and title uh this was super obnoxious the sound repeating over and over again it could have just been clapping we didn't have to hear it every time yes uh a police car intending to move past the dog licking its balls honks repeatedly until the dog eventually barks back at it and finally moves and we're getting all the while we're getting this really kind of zany madcap musical score it plays throughout the movie and i hate it yes it doesn't really match what's going on very well i would say a pair of telephone company workers comment on how close they were missed by a passing helicopter before noticing a buzzard on the top of the neighboring telephone pole they try to scare it away by throwing something at it and the buzzard flies up and almost uh or no it does it successfully crashes into the windshield of the passing helicopter what did they throw at it because they're up on a telephone pole it's not like they had rocks or something they had unless it was an empty beverage i would think it was a tool yeah it's like it's like do you need that that thing that you just threw because you're up on the top of a pole now also that's kind of dangerous because you're on top of a pole yeah but the bird flies away and just explodes against the windshield of the passing helicopter and the pilot's like that crazy bird tried to kill us and an unseen passenger in the back seat corrects him while holding an apple with a bite out of it to block the actor's face and he says that's your perspective he tosses the apple out of the helicopter window and it bounces down the roof of a diner before landing with a thud on the roof of a squad car in the parking lot the cops inside of it move into the diner to apprehend a suspect they heard about on their radio at this point i have no idea what this movie was supposed to be about yeah it's going all over the place like i was like at this point i think at many points during this movie i had no idea what it was about i understood it the whole time they're interested i i felt like oh they're introducing us to all these characters because these characters are important we haven't gotten to one important character yeah yes we have that one guy that had the apple was important who was he look like i don't know he eats apples i know that that plays a huge part inside the diner inside the diner a man is playing pinball and uh another diner patron or maybe employee asks is your ass attached to that machine you wiggle it that's gonna make the ball go where you want it huh did you see who that was yeah uncle phil uncle phil james avery although uncredited role well it is it's credited as man playing pinball or something like that oh is it that's weird it's like because it's in the the the uncredited parts yeah but whoever put him on imdb put it as man playing pinball or yeah and he's not playing yeah he's not playing uh a waitress carrying a small shitty dog from table to table uh lets it nip at customers as she brings them food and drinks i feel like this would get shut down right away it must be like a super small town diner where people just put up with nonsense a badly road television plays a commercial for dog treats starring actress nina franklin cameron is sitting nervously at the bar and the guy next to him just grabs him roughly by the arm to compliment his eagle tattoo uh it's kind of like not a great tattoo like it's just kind of lightly outlined shape of an eagle and the guy's like oh my god that looks like a billboard like he's really exaggerating how cool this tattoo is for some reason cameron stands to sneak out of the diner when cops are suddenly blocking his path and we can hear sirens in the distance he decides that he's going to switch to playing the pinball machine by the door but then both cops grab him to handcuff him against the machine and he jumps one of them and runs for it out the back door of the diner as they're shooting at him repeatedly but he like throws his handcuffed arms over the guy's back and knocks him to the ground in the parking lot and then he scampers off into the woods he comes up to the telephone pole that the phone workers are on and uh they're trying to like get the cops attention like oh he's over here he just came through and he knocks one of them down with like a throat punch like it like jams his thumbs into the guys adam's apple the guy the guy came down the pole to like take him on he was you know like i was i was in vietnam or something like that and he was in a war and then a railway because he was in like korea and the other guy's like i don't know then he puddles him yeah then he runs off to the edge of like he grabs one of their tools too yeah a bolt cutter he moves off out by a river where he chops the chain on his handcuffs so that he can actually move faster and he gets onto this old bridge that he's crossing on foot when suddenly there's a super old-fashioned car coming across from the opposite side and he throws up a hand to like flag down a ride but the car just blows past him and then it suddenly stops so he thinks it's stopping for him to get in but then when he tries to get in the driver is just kicking him throwing him out of the car and then it speeds forward across the bridge and i was so confused at this point yeah did not know what was happening so the car continues across the bridge very quickly and then it skids into a u-turn to come back across the bridge and the driver seems to be aiming it directly at cameron in the middle of this bridge but cameron is at this point on the ground because he got kicked to the floor and he sees all these bolts that are lying on the side of the bridge from when it was constructed i don't know if there's like a fresh bridge and they left parts on it but he grabs one of the bolts and he hucks it at the windshield of this old car and then the car swerves to avoid him or like he he loses his grip on the wheel i'm not really clear what happens but the car accidentally drives off the side of the bridge well first it just appears that it had vanished yeah because he covers his face to like protect himself and then when he looks up the car is just gone and he looks over the side of the bridge and there's like a swirl in the water where a car might have gone in but it's not clear that that's what just happened here i also noticed when the car is making the u-turn that there's a camera crew on the side of the road which like could have looked like a mistake at first but given the the plot of the movie it doesn't matter there's cameras in every shot that's one thing about making a movie about making a movie yeah is that if there's cameras or or crew or microphones visible it's like it's okay i almost felt like it would have been interesting for rush to have included like let a boom mic hang into the shot in the diner when they're working on the pinball machine it's just like this clearly wasn't on set but it's a different it's a movie you're also watching a movie cameron steps to the edge of the bridge to watch the bubbles dwindling where the car possibly sank when suddenly there's a helicopter lowering into frame in front of him there's a camera person hanging out of the side of the helicopter and director eli cross is peeking through a small window emotionless directly at cameron cameron runs and he takes a knife and cuts his pants into shorts so that he can blend into a crowd on the beach outside the hood he's in everything yeah basically a crowd is watching a biplane swing over the shore as a full camera crew is set up on the beach complaining about losing light for the day something expensive is happening because it's a stunt shot and they have five cameras rolling a biplane is firing on a group of german soldiers on the beach and boxes are exploding on the shore the plane swings back for another pass and further explosions continue to rock the set as the smoke clears the crowd sees bodies littering the beach missing arms and legs and lower halves and just piles of guts underneath them the kind of stuff you can't possibly set up in this short of a take and the audience is sure that something went wrong and these actors have been killed i think it's funny because they you know they threw in a line after the scene that's like oh he likes to do it in one take yeah he likes you know apparently the realest eli likes it in one doing it all together but you can't that's not how that's not how those kinds of shots work i mean you could conceivably but it would be way more work than is necessary for a film especially when like the guy says he's probably gonna come in and do pickups for the next three hours right but it's like okay all of these soldiers are getting shot at now quickly bury yourself and throw some guts out like like they would have people like hiding in boxes and then swap people out or uncover people that were already there and make up on the floor yes it's complicated but it's like 1917 complicated where you're like we're gonna do this all in one shot for some reason this is unnecessary after the camera person yells cut all the bodies sit up and uh they're removing the corpsey props as the crowd applauds a man watches from over cameron's shoulder and asks why do they always use so much blood ruins the realism don't you think i'm not sure what the point of that line was unless they're implying that there would be that much blood in that situation and the guy doesn't know that or that that's what i'm assuming yeah because it even because it fooled it fooled cameron yeah and cameron went through the [ __ ] in vietnam after the take a woman clearly an elderly makeup asks for an autograph from the lead actor on the beach she explains that she lost her son and husband in the war that they're that they're reenacting here on the beach eli crosses helicopter lands and he steps out other crew asked what happened with the car accident and he says that the car was recovered but bert is gone they're searching for a body down river at this point but there's no sign of him as eli's helicopter pulls away the old woman opens up an umbrella and a draft lifts her and throws her into the water cameron moves to rescue her just him nobody else notices this lady fall in or tries to help while he's pulling her out of the water she starts peeling her face off because she's wearing makeup and he freaks out and drops her back into the water before he recognizes her as nina franklin the woman from the dog food commercial he saw in the diner he tells her they got to be crazy to cover a face like yours and she explains it's just for the ending but she'll have to tell on this again later because i guess he's not paying attention did she jump in on purpose i don't know it's possible he carries her to shore and when eli sees someone carrying her he assumes that something terrible happened for a moment but he realizes that they're just playing around uh he tells the crew to get her back in makeup so he can see what it looked like before the water wrecked it and yeah the water wrecked it she didn't just peel it off well the water really destroyed it it wasn't gonna stay fine after it got all wet like that he asks if he can speak privately with cameron about the car accident and cameron says it was self-defense he was driving straight at me the chief of police shows up on set he's just yelling at people on his way to eli he needs to talk to eli about this accident that happened and eli asks cameron how many cops are there after you because he's he's been able to read this situation very well and he knows something's going on but cameron's wearing handcuffs that are cut in half and he's super paranoid cameron doesn't answer him and eli asks if he's willing to come on to replace this likely dead stunt person the chief of police finally gets to eli and lectures him for killing a stuntman and eli says well why don't you explain what happened bert to cameron and so now cameron is having to play the part of this guy who died earlier today to get the chief of police off the set he does a decent enough job i guess uh the chief of police seems satisfied when a few crew vaguely confirmed that this is bert yeah and and he's and he as bert says nothing yeah but i also like that the only person that he asks to confirm he's like is that bert or is that somebody else and the guy's like huh it just like gestures vaguely with his head but he's just like okay fine all right still i want you guys out of my town because he's tired of like the hassle they've been causing cameron's officially offered a job to hide here as a stuntman eli says you shall be a stunt man who is an actor who is a character in a movie who is an enemy soldier who look for you amongst all those because he's got like 10 layers deep into his uh disguise they decide they're going to clean him up and make him look different they shave him and they dye his hair blonde eli coaches the lead into a scene where he was bombed by someone from his own squadron but as a prank someone in the scene wrapped a condom around one of the corpse's fingers and during the take it slowly inflates to reveal the message eat at eli's joint written on one side of the condom and the crew is all cracking up about it and eli seems like shocked about it but he's still laughing even though they're wasting his time eli introduces bert to the lead actor raymond bailey they already seem to have a little bit of tension because we'll learn later that raymond bailey does not like to have attractive stunt people because he views them as competition but isn't that a compliment to you because these guys are supposed to be playing you i guess but the whole point of the stunt people is that you're not supposed to see their faces very much right i guess maybe because he can he's doing the stunts and looks good but he's worried that oh they won't need to hire a stunt man yeah and an actor because they can get both yeah are they gonna are they gonna uma thurman me off of this movie right did that happen with her movies basically like have you seen her in a quentin tarantino movie lately but have you seen zoe bell in a bunch of movies after that okay fair enough outside the hotel the stunt coordinator goes over the basics with bert or lucky as his nickname might be now so he went from cameron to bert to now they're calling him lucky so i'm trying to keep up yeah but i put uh my doses like he teaches him the ropes yeah as they are as he's doing stuff with lasso tricks yeah it seems like he literally has a lasso for whenever they're doing his stunt on a building so that he can catch the person as they're falling off the building lucky repeatedly draws comparisons to what he went through in vietnam to prove that he can do whatever the coordinator needs him to at first it seems like the coordinator doesn't think he's up to any of it but he's getting better and better even over the course of this little sequence here they're practicing tackles on the roof they're hanging off of awnings that aren't they're they're not actual awnings from the building they're reconstructed pieces that are strong enough to support the weight of a person but they are up on the roof right of this building of an actual building yeah lucky learns that he's gonna get paid 600 bucks for every major stunt and uh if he gets asked to do it a second time he gets paid 600 again and he's ecstatic with this news but downstairs during a take lucky's enthusiasm ruins what they're shooting because they can hear him upstairs going 600 that's amazing eli says that the take was [ __ ] anyway because the script needs work and he speaks with lucky a bit about his experience in the war and he enlists the screenwriter sam to rewrite chunks of the movie in the middle of dinner the chief of police jake stops in to ask to see footage from the car because he heard the cops were chasing a fugitive near the set and he fears that he may have been involved with that car accident that they had outside the hotel someone mentions a person who killed a group of campers did you hear that like implying that that's had anything to do with what lucky did hey i'll bet they're looking for that guy who killed all those campers and um i don't know if they were trying to imply that he's like literally just a crazy serial killer wandering from well in the place yeah i mean because the part of the running part of the story is that you don't know what he did and he won't say what he did but this is the only like hint of red herring as far as like why there's so many police after him cameron brings nina up to the hotel's tower which i can't tell if this is real or not i think the tower is real but the platform below it isn't real which platform below the one that he's supposed to jump to from the tower i think was added um i'm not i'm not sure uh i'm trying to remember i know that that tower on the top of that rotunda israel yeah uh the last time i was there because i'm trying to remember uh i don't particularly remember that part of the hotel yeah but but he brings nina up there and they argue for a bit about how dangerous it is and uh they start kissing very suddenly and then a spotlight hits them from below and we realize that we're in a take from the film eli asks them to stand in a profile to assist a quick re-lighting of the scene and they're uncooperative nina just flips him off with the scene in the can eli bothers them about their burgeoning relationship well not just bothers them but he he follows them by way of crane yes it's really amazing yeah i would say the crane work is so great because yeah because as they're moving around the arm of the crane has to raise and lower which means they have to give more or less slack yeah and he's clearly he's not controlling the height or the location and the rotation like he's not touching anything yeah he's just turning his head kind of and looking where he wants to go and the thing is just it's like they're they're conjoined it's like he has a symbiotic relationship with this crane it's it's really incredible how well it's being piloted but the limerick that he reads for them is nina the actor so fair who fancied a man with blonde hair but raymond discovers as he lifts up the covers that eli invites lucky aboard the crane at the end of this shot as nina's heading to her room for the night and lucky doesn't want to get in there and because he feels like he's basically being blackmailed into this job that he's being held hostage on set but then eli just swoops in and grabs him and like lifts him higher and higher into the sky so that he can't get away and i say eli's lifting him but whoever is piloting the crane right he just knows what eli wants i presume that he does this on all his movie sets yeah eli asks him why he was wearing broken handcuffs when they first met he asks if he's some sort of pervert dashing across the country in spurts with his fly open and lucky responds you're close but later we learned he's not close we cut to a dog fight happening just over the hotel with planes right sure that's fair to that's fair to point out you know i just want to mention michael vicking up here this is with planes yeah well yeah i mean i think our dog scenes from the movie are over at this yes we've seen our last dog lucky rushes around the hotel tower as bullets are just tearing it to shreds a door tips forward out of its frame from the tower and knocks out the wooden handrail to form a sort of plank out to a lower platform on the roof lucky fights with a dozen german soldiers as he runs across the roof and an an era appropriate biplane flies very low over the hotel despite the fact that the actual production could not get clearance to fly over the hotel the pilot pretended to have technical difficulties and then they shot what they needed while he made an emergency landing over the top of the hotel but while firing the blanks from the airplane so uh very clearly just lying to the people that run the hotel i have a question about firing the blanks from that plane so i don't necessarily understand how you do these special effects but it looked like they were having like little bullets hit the wooden rail yeah there were squibs all around the top of that oh it doesn't have to be on a person okay i always just assumed it was like a blood pack on a person exploding yeah no they they had explosions there were charges all over that thing but i couldn't tell if they were destroying the actual wood of the building or not yeah again that's what what's so great about how this whole thing comes together because i that building is so well protected yeah i don't know how they got permission to do any of this yeah it's it's really interesting they they must have been they must have just like set up layers of things on top of the actual framework of the hotel that's that's what i would tend to assume i guess but i mean there are soldiers running over every inch of this roof yeah like that's not good for a roof no they're not designed to take impact like that you're not supposed to run on those tiles or the not the tiles what are they called shingles shingles thinking yeah um a group of soldiers falls through a balcony because they had all these extra constructions on top of it and they crash against the side of the hotel pretty hard one of them asks if they've fallen out of frame or if they have to remain in character which you shouldn't ask out loud if you're not sure um but when they came crashing against the hotel because it's also still being used as a hotel a guest leans out the window completely topless and starts shouting at them for bothering her in her room lucky rushes around a corner and comes face to face with the coordinator who is apparently playing another german soldier in the film and he jams him in the face with the butt of a rifle he's basically knocked to the ground and lucky grabs his leg and is just like looks frantic in his eyes and he says will you turn loose on my legs that's not the routine and then lucky twists to throw him off the side of the hotel and this is the second moment where you're sure something has gone wrong you see him drop to the floor and uh in shock lucky kind of dabs at the wound on his face and then we get a shot of the coordinator below sitting safely in the center of an inflated mat under the he's basically on the bullseye so we know that not only did he hit what he was supposed to that this was a very precisely planned stunt right that we were led to believe was was actually going wrong uh lucky moves to slide down a rain gutter and we see a guy with a button blast a small charge that releases the rain gutter from the side of the building and it tips very slowly backwards lucky is dropped through a series of awnings and eventually threw a skylight into a bed with two naked people in it and the three of them all tumble out of the room into this rowdy bar room where a bunch of soldiers are sleeping with prostitutes and on his way like through crowdsurfing over the bar he's basically stripped down to his underwear and dropped right in front of the camera it's very frantic and like uh like a delusional kind of dream or something like that yeah like just all these hands are grabbing him and he really seems like he doesn't know what's happening yeah and we learn after this take that he didn't know beyond tipping backward on the the rain pipe that was supposed to be like the end of the stunt he was supposed to get caught at the end of that and that was the end but he fell through a bunch of awnings and through the skylight and eli explains well you would have been fine and the coordinator tells him that the even the two naked people on the bed were other stunt people that were going to coordinate this and everything would have been fine so there was really no risk but sometimes we need to set up that sometimes eli likes to improvise things and it can cause problems but lucky doesn't have a lot of patience for this and he chews eli out in front of the whole cast and crew the next day the cast gathers to watch the dailies from a couple of the scenes that they've shot so far nina's pretty upset with lucky that he would talk to eli like that in front of everyone and then because she keeps talking to lucky eli kicks her out of the daily screening the reel ends with a blooper of a bad dummy hanging out of a plane and bouncing weirdly we get this crazy split diopter shot with eli and the screenwriter arguing about how to improve the scene but because they're both in focus sam looks huge on the right and eli looks like he's sitting on his shoulder basically the screenwriter is defensive about this scene where basically a pilot dies in a crash and his boots are ceremoniously dropped over his airfield but eli points out that they did the same thing in wings and that it's two on the nose he complains that we're shaking a finger at them when we should be you know hiding our point in entertainment making them laugh making them cry we can't just lecture them eli asks lucky what he would do in this situation where he was on a plane and everyone was dying around him and he says well i'd probably dance for joy about the my approaching death and he's like well that's great well why don't we do that maybe not a jig maybe we do the charleston or something like that and everyone's telling him you're gonna get a belly laugh this is ridiculous isn't this isn't supposed to be a comedy and he's like no no this is this is accurate to the madness of the character that he would be going through this so we move to that scene being shot and lucky is picked up from a battle by a biplane and the boots that he collected from his fallen comrade are tossed over the side of the plane and the two of them split a bottle of champagne and then lucky moves out on the wing to do the charleston on the edge of the plane wing but while that's happening the pilot is shot by enemy fire and the plane goes into a tailspin and lucky just grabs onto the outside edge of the wing to avoid being thrown off as it spins and then we realize that this is also a fake scene that it's happening in a stationary point with the safety of harnesses and everything yeah even though the crew is all standing around like oh my god he's gonna go flying off and they're not in frame so there's no reason for them to pretend they think he's going to get hurt yeah the whole the whole scene ends up being that while they were up on the plane and he was dancing like none of that was actually in the air yeah but the camera crew is ecstatic with the footage that they're getting they keep building this is one of like several kind of like weird fake outs where because they're trying to make you think that eli is really reckless that he's really willing to put these people in serious danger like i'm gonna have you go out on a wing of a plane and dance while while it's flying that's yeah you know i was like that's crazy you can't do that but then you say oh wait this is all still very controlled yeah and and while still maybe a little risky not nearly as risky as you think that eli wants it to be so far only one stunt seems to have been let go yeah it's too risky but while they're while they're filming him out on the wing of the plane one of the the camera cruises what have you been seeing that soldier boy brave pill is not what he eats but what's eating him but eventually after it lands the plane hits a tree and we cut to lucky and nina in bed together they have just finished having sex and she says that she just had her second orgasm of the day after watching him do his stunt work earlier and this an alarm goes off to rush them to set but lucky urges her to ignore the clock and continue making love to him as though the clock where eli screaming at her to do her job the coordinator and lucky sit down to watch the footage of bert drowning in the car it looks like burt just completely screwed it up he he did everything wrong along the way he didn't actually try and get out of the car properly and he was panicking inside and uh but but where did his body go yeah that's the question if there even wasn't i have a lot of questions about this though because at the beginning they're making it they made it seem like it the car veered off by accident but we established later that he's supposed to be doing this shot and then are they implying that like i feel like they're implying that eli did something nefarious to get like better footage you know that that he did this on purpose well i think lucky thinks that he caused the stunt driver's death by hitting the windshield with a bolt because he had less air to work with basically because the windshield was cracked from the bolt that he threw at the car and so he thought it flooded faster than it was supposed to and he killed the stunt driver but then the coordinator says oh the windshield could have broken in the impact that has nothing to do with the stun so it's like okay so we've settled that this isn't cameron's fault and if it's not eli's fault then it's literally just bert's fault and then yeah like you said where did burt go yeah well and and if it was all a stunt why was bert trying to why was burke continuing to do the stunt when there was a person on the bridge yeah interfering with the footage like even if you did the stunt you would have a person in modern day clothes running around on a bridge it wouldn't work yeah and the coordinator tries to say that he was so focused on the stunt that he didn't he wasn't paying attention to that but you should be more focused on the stunt and know that this is not a usable take and it's a waste of the car and then why did he stop on the bridge yeah there's like all these questions about how that stunt was performed that make it seem very odd i kept expecting the original bert to show up again well when we get to the end as i said like that's that's when i thought it was going to happen right there yeah i was like oh my goodness but on set sam interrupts the scene with a suggestion that instead of leaving flowers on a grave nina the old woman uh instead leaves something more intimate a symbol of their relationship together and he brings out this bag and he has this mechanical bronze statue of a girl on a swing having sex with a bear and at first nina and eli are both like choking back laughter at how dumb this idea is but then eli breaks and admits that he thinks it's genius and he's excited that he and sam are finally working on the same movie because he gets the tone that he's going for um we cut to the scene where this prop is being used and the old woman leaves the bronze on the headstone of the pilot who basically the story of this film is about a woman who found a pilot who survived the war and she basically sheltered him until her old age but he died and so he's buried in this this unknown soldier tomb but she knows who it is because she took care of him when he was alive a gentleman in the cemetery tries to usher her away because he's like no this is it's an unmarked grave you need to move out of here and we see a crowd of onlookers that are just laughing at her because of this pornographic prop she put on that yeah i i wasn't sure what they were laughing at i thought they were just laughing at her like period like as a mourner that would be weird though it was well the whole scene's still weird yeah i think but i think they're laughing because she put this thing up of a girl having sex with a bear on a headstone um but uh the man in the cemetery accidentally trips over a c-stand and uh he apologizes to eli for ruining the take and when nina stands eli rushes in to hug her and she starts crying and eventually laughing and then we move out of this scene eli pulls lucky aside and gives him a pamphlet on how to escape a sinking car on the way to the screening room because evidently he's going to try again to get some interior footage of the car for that shot well and it was from uh new amsterdam right or not new amsterdam amsterdam regular amsterdam yeah og amsterdam uh because of the canals and the drive people driving into the canals was a problem yeah there's experts in driving into the canals out there the police chief shows up again and they're here to watch dailies because they want to see the footage of the crash scene because they think that there might be a sign of this fugitive they were after in the dailies but somehow cameron is nowhere to be seen in the footage because of movie magic and editing and eli managed to just cut out every shot that included him in any way so he and lucky leave and return to set lucky seems convinced that eli's intent is to kill him with a stunt and cover his tracks because lucky's the only person who knows what happened i mean he's not the only person what tracks the tracks that he killed a stunt person for as mother i think a lot of people know that he's not bert yeah though so i don't think that killing him covers anything right but i think he knows the other people and the other people rely on him for a living whereas this guy might just disappear when the movie's over and sell it now i guess i don't know like i think that's a pretty silly thing to think because a lot of people know that bert died yeah but i don't think a lot of people care or at least they're they're not in a position to do anything about it where if lucky survives this film he can go off and sell the information to whoever he wants but uh lucky uses his wartime experience or i guess a friend's experience with a bouncing betty as a metaphor for his predicament where when you step on the bouncing betty it doesn't kill you when you step on it it kills you when you step away from it and he thinks that he's he's only safe as long as he's working on this movie and then when he's done with this movie he's gonna get killed right away sam plays third wheel as lucky and nina are flirting in their hotel room but eventually lucky explains that he knows that she had a relationship with eli because the the makeup girl basically spoiled it she while she was doing his makeup one day she said oh yeah they had a relationship a long time ago oh i'm sorry i guess you didn't know about it and uh lucky's pretty upset i like this scene because i like how sam describes his relationship with the uh eli yeah he's like like i'm a sadist so that's why i'm his best friend's best friend yeah um but uh nina is obviously very upset at being criticized for having had a relationship with eli and she leaves and then sam sort of like lectures him about how obnoxious he's being that he's an [ __ ] and lucky admits that he basically wanted her to be a virgin like he he expected that she had zero sexual experience and it bothers him that she's ever had sex with anyone even if it was once or twice three years ago with eli and then sam tells this really disturbing story he says i get just to to hammer home that the fact that they're a virgin means nothing he says you know i had a virgin once i had to go to guatemala fort she was blind in one eye and she had a stuffed alligator that said welcome to miami beach which i think he means he went to a child prostitute yeah yeah which is gross um but it's a virgin do you see why that doesn't matter now so we cut too lucky arriving at this dinner party outside and the music playing here is called bits and pieces featuring dusty springfield singing lyrics to dominic frontier's theme for the movie and it ends with and you ask yourself what good are dreams i can't remember how the actual musical part goes the lyrics end with and you ask yourself what good are your dreams in a world where nothing is what it seems uh which obviously lends itself to the themes of the film uh nina and lucky appear to bury the hatchet and smile with each other like we don't hear any real apology but the two of them are friendly again in a nearby bar another crew member is bragging about having finally quit the movie yeah so this was a weird uh did we did we gloss yeah we kind of glossed over something oh um uh because we with the the tank scene oh yeah uh so just recapping real quick i mean because there was a scene where this guy called cut early because he he felt like the camera film was gonna roll out yeah but uh when he uh eli is really upset because he this guy called cut yeah the director and he asked how much footage is left in the camera and he says 33 feet and he says that's like three seconds yeah that's 22 seconds or 22 seconds of footage just like what are you doing um so he gets pretty rough with this guy uh and but what was weird to me was they were at the birthday it's like it's it's nina's parents are there yeah and it's his it's the father's birthday party i guess i'm not sure but all of a sudden it's just like cuts and the party's over nina is gone and cameron's er is at the bar yeah i was like how did we get here well that's every scene cut though in this whole movie we cut very drastically and sharply from one like day to night and here to there well i feel like that's the the the previous 150 minute cut being shaved down yeah that's possible like like it's like we just got some stuff we gotta cut this birthday party scene thing that doesn't matter yeah but yeah this guy is telling him that he was in the helicopter when uh when the stunt went wrong he basically says i quit this job and i have this dime and this dime is eli's ass i'm going to take it to a phone i'm going to put in a call and i'm going to say what happened to bert and this will all be behind us well and he's also threatening cameron because like i don't think he realizes he's threatening cameron because he doesn't know cameron's past so he he thinks this guy just lucked out and came to set to be another stunt person but lucky knows this is going to put me in hot water and so i can't let you make this phone call so he tries to walk him out of the bar but then he shows this big scar that he has on his neck and he says i was in the helicopter and i tried to stop filming so that i could help because there was a person drowning in the scene and eli basically attacked him and forced him to keep shooting obviously he feels super guilty about that and he wants eli to do his time for contributing to this guy's death which again lends lends itself to cameron's theory that this is this wasn't an accident right with the previous stuntman that eli is just crazy and putting people in danger but what's really weird is that he didn't even get a good shot out of it like it's not even like the coordinator said when they watch the footage it's not even a shot they could use so it's like it's one thing if it's like if it's really good footage of a guy drowning i can understand why eli would be so desperate to get all of it but if it's completely unusable then why not let someone interrupt to try and save the guy the next day nina's parents sit in during the dailies process and eli pretends to accidentally uh slip in some footage of nina uh fully nude for uh seen in bed in front of her parents and and uh presumably her sister like younger kid sibling brother or something i don't i didn't see a younger sibling yeah i think the younger sibling was actually in the movie and that's why her parents were there i think it was supposed to maybe represent her younger in the movie because they got really excited after the scene and they were all clapping yeah and then and then it cut to the nina stuff and so i think that they were putting her sister in there too and it's just like oh no i feel so terrible that we accidentally put this footage in yeah and because you see the parents clasping hands and they're like digging each into each other's like skin because this is super uncomfortable for them um and then later we see nina having trouble drawing shame into her performance and she says i think it's because my parents are here i'm just going to tell my parents to leave and then maybe it'll help me like you know get get out of my own head and get into this character and and feel the shame of my character and then he leans in and he says hey so you should know something happened during dailies today we accidentally showed them the scene where you guys were having sex so your parents watched all of that and she's just shocked and crying immediately and can't even speak like she's speechless and so they roll the whole set in behind her and like there's a torch that they move into the foreground there's a you know flowers and and this nazi awarding her the iron cross yeah they're wrapping the iron cross around her and she's still in that moment of like just taking in what eli just said to her but she's perfectly expressing the shame that he wanted for the character in this scene the next day lucky and nina are in their hotel room again and they're arguing over whether or not he's evil or crazy because she seems to think that he's he's evil that he's doing these things to just to make her mad and uh lucky says she's just that he's just insane and that he's pretty sure that that eli is trying to kill him like literally kill him the next day the coordinator walks lucky through the new car stunt i guess it's not the new car stunt it's the same stunt over again but they're down to their last vehicle for this as he's going through it point by point he shows all the missing safety equipment he's like oh it doesn't have a roll cage because it would look bad and it doesn't have seat belts because it would look bad on camera and he just walks through the reason this looks like a death trap is because it doesn't look good on film this car is 100 death proof yeah uh no it's not uh but there are there are some amenities the steering wheel is reinforced so he can hold on to it if to brace himself for the impact yeah and there is a canister of air which i presume was also present for the previous stunt it should have been but yeah there was a there should be a regulator under the seat that he can use for a last breath of air before he swims out the window to the surface and there's supposed to be safety divers in there too so i don't know where those guys were when the first time i kind of presumed when they showed the bubbles underneath the water it was supposed to be the divers but they never really that never really went anywhere yeah we never we never solved the whole burnt mystery eli tells nina that lucky is a criminal and a psychopath so now she's heard from each of them that the other person is crazy in a row she goes to speak with cameron who's like downstairs working on a car in the garage and he explains that when he was in vietnam that he killed a lot of people and he hoped that things would be better when he came back to america but they weren't his he was like he was supposed to get married he was going to open an ice cream shop like it just seems like the plans of a child basically and he expected all that stuff to still happen when he got back but nobody cared about him and they all just looked at him like he wanted to kill their babies like presumably he did when he was in vietnam well and the girl who was supposed to be waiting for him cheated on his partner with the ice cream shop yeah and they didn't like they didn't care yeah and uh he says that the charges against him were for attempted murder that uh when he found out that his friend and his wife or girlfriend had uh had gotten married while he was gone he broke into the shop at night he was just destroying everything they had and while he was there a cop came in to check on the shop i don't know if they got a call or it was like he triggered some security system but a cop came in and he went to he thought it was his friend so he went to smash him over the head with a bucket of ice cream and he knocked him unconscious with the ice cream but he didn't know that he knocked him unconscious and he left and so the guy's head was in this frozen ice cream all night and apparently he lost like his ear his earlobes and his nose and the whole time he's telling her the story nina is cracking up at the details this is a horrifying story yeah and he even seems like he's taking it way more seriously than she did but this whole time we thought that he was like a serial killer or something like that and it turns out that he literally just accidentally gave a cop frost bite and that's why there's 30 cops after him just find it hard to believe that you could leave a bucket of ice cream on a guy's head and actually cause that much damage like wouldn't it just melt and you'd be done with it well it depends on where they were when it happened like if he knocked him out in a walk-in freezer or something like that i could see how it would be a problem but yeah that's the end of the story and nina's laughing so hard that she has to rush to the bathroom so she doesn't pee yourself the two of them decide that they're going to steal a prop car and a security guard tells them no you're not because eli says this is all locked up you're not going anywhere and besides there's roadblocks everywhere because they're looking for that guy who who slightly froze a cop's face lucky improvises an alternate ending where on set he'll ignore the directions that eli gave him and he'll just drive across the bridge and away from the set forever and it'll be at least 15 minutes before anyone really figures out what's going on and nina says well i can go with you i'll just stow away in the trunk of the car and we'll escape together and forget this movie because i don't care about it and if he's literally going to kill you at the end of this movie then we don't we don't need to stick around if i have to choose between you and shooting a scene where i make a sandwich for someone at the end of this movie i'm going to go with you i don't really understand this plan i feel like there's no way that's that nobody's gonna notice that she's mis like that she's missing like yeah they're gonna notice she's the star i guess she's not in this scene but they're still gonna be like where is she yeah uh eli informs the crew the next day that they have to get this right in one take that's their last car sorry we should go back to the fact that she just climbs into the trunk yeah she literally climbs into the trunk expecting to stay there overnight until the yeah until the morning that's so weird so but the next day eli tells everybody that we only have one car we got to get this in one take everything's going to be good and then we're we're done here lucky goes to check on the trunk but he keeps getting distracted by people and things that need his attention and then and one of them is raymond who says something really weird to him yeah he he leans against the it's like shot from below and he's leaning against the trunk to open it and then raymond says you know it doesn't matter if if she loves you she's in there and if she doesn't she's not so apparently she told him about the plan or like somehow raymond knew what they were gonna do well i mean i mean we can circle back around to it after but i'm assuming he does know yeah i mean he has to because of what he said right we haven't seen any scenes where what he thinks is happening is just blatantly not happening it's always happening but they're actors or right so we're not we're not actually like breaking any laws of physics or reality here yeah because i always thought it was a delusion at first that he thought that raymond was saying this stuff but then that hasn't happened at all so far but but has it because he gets really confused in the long takes like it seems like they strung a bunch of what needs to be multiple takes together and he sort of experiences it as one long episode or maybe it's just a callback to what eli was talking about where you know he likes to get them in one so they do a master of every stunt in a row and they go back and do little pickups here and there but it seems like the stuff you want pickups of is you know the most intensive stuff like the explosions and yeah people breaking stuff but they try to do a quick tech test and uh when eli tells him okay well the red light's going to turn on and that's how you know the camera's on and they do a quick test and they turn on the red light and they say all right is the camera on and he says what and a bunch of people are on all sides of the car just going camera on camera on and he thinks they're saying cameron his name and so he freaks out and he starts the car early and uh everyone flies into action to try and get footage of the take because they weren't expecting him to go is that what he thinks yes that they're saying his name i didn't realize that yeah i thought they were because they're specifically just saying cameron i i i thought that it what he thought was the camera is rolling and then he needs to go right i i think what he's hearing everyone say camera on camera on outside the car and he thinks he's been found out suddenly uh yeah i didn't get that at all bump it again camera on what ask him if it's on camera huh he says it's a camera on and uh he starts the car early and he starts racing for the bridge and everyone's rushing to work and uh turning on all their cameras getting everything going they get everything basically just barely in time set up to get the take the way eli wanted it but of course lucky's new plan is to continue across the bridge and not stop but this plan is blown when we get the the second instance of eli deciding to improvise things during a take and it turns out that they're gonna remotely blow the tire on the car so he doesn't have a choice about driving off the bridge into the water and he goes flying off the bridge and scrambles over the back of the seats because he thinks nina's in the trunk and she's gonna get drowned and nobody else knows it and even even if there were divers under the water they wouldn't know that there was a person in the trunk and wouldn't get her out but then as he gets over the seats into the back seat he sees her on the bridge with eli watching the car go underwater he moves back to the front seat to finish the scene as it was planned but the regulator seems to be broken he's able to roll down the window though slowly and he surfaces regardless of everything that went wrong and he swings to the shore uh as he crawls out of the water there's a troop of german soldiers that are all pointing their bayonets at him and they start to drag him away when eli finally yells cut and the soldiers all start to congratulate him for what a great job he did this doesn't make sense to me either because isn't the point of this scene how the character dies in the movie i guess not i guess they changed the ending again okay but uh but lucky just starts breaking into a fit of laughter when he realizes that this was all part of eli's plan and the coordinator comes flying up on a jet ski and he crashes into the shore so hard that he does like a front flip over the handles nina says that they found her in the trunk five minutes after they parted last night and for no reason didn't tell him well that's how i'm assuming that raymond knew yeah that and it's like oh her plan was to hide out here so well and then i presume that eli finds out and takes advantage of the situation is like great we'll use this we're going to let him think that you're in the trunk right we're going to let him drive away like a bat out of hell here thinking that he's getting away with this and i'll just blow the tire and look that much more authentic yeah and and nina even says like oh eli told me about how you changed your mind and you were gonna drive off the bridge and uh i'm so glad that everything went off without a hitch and eli speaks with him about why he did what he did and eventually at the end of the scene eli is trying to shortchange lucky because he was supposed to get a thousand dollars for the stunt according to the coordinator and he says oh well no that's that was never the deal we also see divers coming out of the water and we realized how safe he was exactly but then i thought for sure that they were like who's going to go oh the divers were really down there but then it was going to be like one of them coming up with the body okay i was like oh god here it is because i kept waiting for this movie to get really really dark yeah like i thought for sure something really terrible was going to happen and the the they kept hinting at something really bad like well a cop did get frostbite yeah and a guy did maybe die or just vanished um but it i kept waiting cause this is ultimately this is like a little bit more of a comedy yeah uh the way it ends it's definitely a comedic note but uh apparently either for the last scene or for the first scene when the car drove off the bridge the way it was supposed to work is the car didn't have anybody in it and it was supposed to hit a track on the bridge that would drive it direct it off the side but the first time they ran it it hopped the track and it continued to cross the bridge and like crashed into a camera and like knocked a bunch of crew off the road so oh man but yeah i'm assuming they only had enough money to wreck one car and so when you see the car and the dailies go into the water that's actually the shot from the end of the movie when the car did go in the water yeah because i don't think they destroyed two cars for this especially if you're not even gonna show it hitting the water for that first scene um but yeah i kept expecting bert to come back and he just never did um because eli seems genuinely upset like he he comes out of the helicopter crying at the beginning like his eyes are red from crying like he he's really he really seems distraught but i thought that that was an act because i thought he's just if this is going to be like apocalypse now or something like that where he's lost his mind yeah he's willing to kill people to make this movie he's sadistic he lies uh but and while he does do things that are very kind of mean he's actually like genuinely just trying to make a film and is concerned about the people's safety yeah yeah but he did then trick the guy at the end and blew his tire to make him go and do the stunt he didn't want to do yeah but that's fine is it yeah because he's a capable stunt man he knew he was gonna get out alive and he had divers in case he didn't yeah i think that that's not okay no probably not um director richard rush here uh he did color of night air america freebie and the bean um further back in his career he did psych out and hell's angels on wheels two movies featuring our friend bud cardos writer lawrence b marcus is a long time tv writer back to 1950 he obviously got an oscar nomination for this he didn't he didn't win though the novelist paul brauder didn't have any other imdb credits eli cross here is peter o'toole lawrence of arabia um he was tiberius in caligula early this year for us um he's henry ii in the lion and winter and he's just overall great fun guy i like watching old interviews of him yeah because he's just a fun character yeah i'm not an actor i'm a movie star yeah steve rail's back was cameron aka bert aka lucky he was charles manson in the tv movie helter skelter he also played ed gein in the 2000 ed game movie oh yeah i remember that he's colonel tom carlson and toby hooper's life force and he plays colonel preiser in barbed wire barbara hershey was nina franklin she's boxcar bertha in boxcar bertha chuck yeager's wife glennis yeager and the right stuff she's harriet byrd in the natural mary magdalene in the last temptation of christ and more recently she was erica sayers slash the queen in black swan for darren aronofsky alan garfield with sam who is for some reason credited as alan gurwitz in this movie possibly changed his name after this he was harold lutz in robocop 2 he's witkin in the ninth gate and he's harry fishbein in mother jugs and speed alex rocco was jake the chief of police he was mo green in the godfather and quinn and herbie goes bananas for us very recently uh he's one of the one of the three bad guys in that adam roark was raymond bailey he plays clint crockett and frogs he's deke and dirty mary crazy larry and he was buddy in hell's angels on wheels also with our friend bud cardos from uh the same director philip bruns played ace he was frank zabo in flash dance and doc mandel in return of the living dead michael rail's back played burt the original stuntman he's the actual brother of lead steve railsback and all of his other credits are gaffer and electrician stuff george wallace played the father uh presumably nina's father he played bosun in forbidden planet he was commander cody and radar men from the moon he plays the president in bicentennial man and he played him one of his last credits was as god on joan of arcadia which i think every episode had like two or three people playing god but he was one of them uh john alderman played carl benari he was a bookie in baltimore bullet and he plays a character named phil latio in two films by richard cantor there she blows and starlet we had james avery you're right credited as man playing pinball even though he does not play pinball he's uncle phil from fresh prince he was shredder early in the ninja turtles this was his second uncredited role for us after the guy outside reyes in the blues brothers and he also plays the detective who plants coke on fletch in fletch uh we also have greg berger in an uncredited role it doesn't say what part he played but he's a voice actor and a bunch of stuff including odie and eeyore in various incarnations of garfield and winnie the pooh he also does a voice of grimlock and a bunch of transformers stuff he was jacked in the american versions of final fantasy 10 and 10 2 and uh agent k on the men in black animated series and he did the voice of the grumble on ah real you monsters um that's one of my favorite characters to do impressions it's such a great voice um and patricia mcpherson played pretty woman i'm not sure i was looking for her too i i i i i'm assuming she must have been someone at the beach scene yeah but i'm not sure who who they're deciding is the pretty woman um but she played bonnie barstow in knight rider and she was also mike forrester in a macgyver episode yeah but she was in jack of allies not widowmaker so she's not the she's not the mike forrester that dies right right mike forester that gets kidnapped i also want to mention the charles ball uh who played chuck barton who was the stunt coordinator and who is actually a stunt man no so uh that was just it's just good that he was playing he reminded me like of a robert forrester type character well and uh he like he also is like a prolific director uh but uh like tv stuff yeah i'm like looking at it really quick i'm looking at baywatch nights yeah nights we'll get to that podcast eventually just the baywatch nights podcast the night swatch oh my god now my watch has ended that's gonna be a fun podcast we're doing that all right it's not happening guys it will um that was it all right up or down jess you know i'm i'm gonna give it up but i don't know there was something about this movie that just did not click with me i don't think it's a bad movie i just didn't really follow it very well yeah well it's a big up for me i like this one a lot uh i'm gonna give it up uh i definitely liked it i think you still could have cut another 20 or 30 minutes out of this movie uh it it felt very long although i was very interested in what was going on because again i kept waiting for this big shoe to drop and it never came but now that i have a better understanding what the movie's about um i think i like it better yeah i mean i still have a lot of questions and i'm still not quite sure of of how everything came together but uh i certainly think it was a very interesting movie to see and people should see it yeah richard where does this go on your list um i'm gonna put this uh actually i'm gonna put this right below tom horn which is right above brubaker okay jess are we closer to list yeah so i would put it um i think i'm going to put it just below foxes and just above the nude bomb okay for me this goes right between mad max and friday the 13th but yeah i think that's everything for this one uh if you guys have any thoughts you'd like to share with us we are vintagevideopod on twitter facebook instagram and letterbox or as i said before you can find each of our full movie 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nasa satellite launch the us government tries to cover up the incident for political reasons we leaving now with the trailer for hangar 18. on october 24 1979 a huge metallic disc crashed in the arizona desert military authorities moved what they found to hanger 18 at a remote air force base now an incredible new motion picture reveals startling proof that the government has a flying saucer in its possession and the dead bodies of alien pilots why have the facts been kept hidden from the american public learn the terrifying truth see hanker 18 rated pg starts friday at a theater near you don't miss hangar 18.