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welcome to vintage video where we're

re-watching the 80s so you don't have to

we'll be reviewing every major film

release of the 1980s in real time

over analyzing what you've seen and

spoiling what you haven't i'm patrick

o'reilly i'm jesse bayless and i'm

richard wells and today marks the 40th

anniversary of the release of hangar 18

on july 1

1980 it was written by ken pettis

credited as stephen conway always a good

sign

based on a story by thomas c chapman and

james l conway

directed by james l conway and released

by sun classic pictures

sun classic pictures was founded in 1971

with the intention of producing and

distributing family entertainment

bizarrely it started as a subsidiary of

the schick razor company

and was sometimes referred to as it is

in the credits here as the chic

sun classics so it's not the shine

hardwick company

no exactly it feels like that to me

their earlier successes include 1974's

the life and times of grizzly adams and

the subsequent tv series

in 1975 they successfully distributed

alan landsberg's documentary

the outer space connection forming a

partnership that

led to documentaries in search of noah's

ark

and in search of historic jesus and

later landsberg himself spun off

the franchise into the in search of

series originally hosted by leonard

nimoy

and later mitch paleggi and now hosted

by professional leonard nimoy

impersonator zachary quinto

i i like that i like the transition from

nimoy to mitch pelig

i think it's because you had star trek

and then x-files yeah yeah yeah but then

uh beyond documentaries sun is also

known for cujo

the boogens and private lessons sun

ceased

operations in 1987 after a few changes

of ownership

and corporate restructuring but as of

2000 they're an independent company

again

but have no new releases their library

is currently owned by a subsidiary of

paramount

and because of the popularity of sun

classics documentary

offerings hangar 18 was advertised as

though or a documentary

about alien conspiracies about to blow

open major government secrets

sorry i just want to go back for a

second you said that they were a company

again as of 2000 but don't have any new

releases correct 20 years ago yeah okay

got it

it is crazy having been born in 1983 i'm

mostly familiar with hangar 18

as the song that i couldn't beat on

expert and guitar hero 2

because heavy metal band megadeth wrote

a song inspired by this film for their

album rust in peace

it was inspired by this apparently

anything was inspired by this film is

kind of shocking

i think capricorn 1 was retroactively

inspired by this film

the film was shot at the peyote and webb

air force bases in texas

this might be our first film with an mst

3k episode although we did see some

clips of

i was a teenage werewolf in the movie

corp

hangar 18 was featured very early this

was the 19th episode of mst 3k

it seems like a missed opportunity for

hangar 18 to be episode 19

but uh this was uh it was actually

before

what is considered the first season it's

back when they were still doing like

a public access show basically yeah and

keep sharing the tapes

yeah they got in trouble because they

were

they tried to get underground they went

underground oh yeah um

and because people were taping the show

and then sharing the the taped shows

with people who who missed it

um and obviously like you know they

don't want you to do that

broadcasters don't want you to do that

they want you to tune in for the show

but they started putting things at the

end keep sharing the tapes or

along those lines and they kind of think

they got in trouble for it a cousin of

mine definitely had every episode on

tape

in spite of official denials rumors have

continued to surface about what the

government

has been concealing from the american

public at a secret air force hangar

but now with the help of a few brave

eyewitnesses

who have stepped forward to share their

knowledge of the events the story can be

told we open

with credits in the nasa font a nasa

shuttle is delivering a satellite to

orbit

10 minutes before the launch of what

they're calling the first satellite

no yeah it definitely wasn't the first

it could not have been the first

satellite but the guy says

this is the first satellite for us to

launch so this is a really big deal and

it's like

what are you talking about it's 1980

yeah definitely

other satellites have been up yeah how

did president tyler call the shuttle

if there wasn't satellites but the space

shuttle itself was relatively new

yeah so maybe it's the first shuttle

delivery satellite

delivery i don't know but president

tyler phones the crew

to speak with them and congratulate them

on their work before they've even done

it

real smart tyler jinx

yeah ground control sees some kind of

red light warning

steve mans the arm to lift the satellite

out of the cargo bay

and lou takes the wheel while colonel

gates moves outside the shuttle to check

on the

communication module on the satellite

that's throwing up the error

he confirms that there was a loose

module and he offers to wait outside

while the launch is completed which

seems totally unnecessary yeah

once once it's left the cargo bay

there's nothing you could do about it so

just go back inside

but he says he's going to stay outside

in case this thing goes haywire again

lou notices something fluttering around

on the radar and the generally ground

control says

they should contact norad immediately in

the shuttle lou and steve notice

a straight-up ufo directly above them

but say nothing

yeah they don't say anything to ground

control they're just like huh that's

weird

there's like a non-human-made ship

floating around out there

but when the satellite launches it

launches directly at this ship

and they didn't say anything to anyone

like maybe we should abort the launch

because there's the thing right in the

way

when the satellite hits the ufo it

explodes and communications are

temporarily knocked out

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not only that yeah but oh my god yeah

this was this was like at the beginning

of saturn three when the guy

like explodes on the bars i was like i

was not expecting this so quickly in

this movie

but stephen liu looking out the window

noticed that

gates has been decapitated and his body

is floating away from the shuttle but

his head is still in the helmet like

it's like full-on django fit yeah lou

calls down to

ground control and he says hey uh gates

is dead

and he's like what do you mean what how

do you know he said what happened and

they're like

uh something with the explosion it must

have knocked his helmet off and it's

like that's a nice way of putting it

his head is definitely not connected to

his body anymore

but debris from the satellite explosion

must have hit him it's like yeah that's

exactly what happened i guess because

at first you're thinking oh there's

aliens here that killed this guy and

threw his body out and it's like

no it was literally just debris yeah i

was kind of waiting for there to be

a bigger payoff on this story yeah and

i'm like i guess they use it as

a you know a story point moving forward

that

you know that it would be a news story

that this guy died

but i kind of expected there to be a

little bit more behind this

yeah he never was so we moved to norad

at 3 10 a.m

they are tracking the ufo as it is

crashing to earth

air search units are scrambled to bannon

arizona where the craft is descending

sam tate in arizona is driving his car

when he sees

the craft down any off-roads for a

minute to get a look at it

he's shocked by what he sees and then he

drives away to notify the proper

authorities

which i guess in this case is the bannon

county sheriff or

a search plane finds it from norad a

general hesitates to relay any

instruction because he does not know

what the hell to do with this thing

harry forbes the darren mcgavin

character

the father from uh christmas story is

in ground control and he is basically

dispatched from that job to go

investigate the crash site because he

wants to keep it

under wraps the general says that the

president has already been informed

and then he moves to inform the

president who he has not yet spoken with

somehow the next day we still haven't

talked to the president about oh by the

way last night about 10 minutes after

you called us

yeah we found a ufo yeah and we didn't

think to call you back

we confirmed we're not alone in the

universe

we told a lot of people about it like so

many people know and you don't know yet

but he speaks specifically with the

chief of staff

who doesn't sound surprised at all about

the news

he's like hey so i wanted to tell you we

have an alien aircraft in our possession

he says

okay well we probably shouldn't talk

about this on this line why don't you

come meet me in person instead of like

what you have what you have a what

like bill pullman in independence day

can you say that again

yeah he wants to do the elaboration in

person because the president is in the

middle of a re-election campaign

and as you know no president has ever

been reelected the same year as first

contact with an alien race has been made

because that wouldn't look great if you

were the president that made

first contact yeah you definitely don't

want that on your resume

shaking hands with the alien president

although this is pre-mars attacks

yeah when the astronauts land they want

to speak with the gates family

but are told that the air force is

handling it

and they handle it all right sam leads

the bannon authorities to where he saw

this

spaceship land but it's already been

cleaned up i mean not really but

for some reason he can't find what uh

what he saw the night before

back in houston mission control refuses

to share the telemetry

reports with the astronauts and they

just assure them that everything's going

to be fine

so please stop asking questions the

chief of staff for the president is

weirdly worried that

the press is going to get a hold of this

information because the election is two

weeks away and it's still too close to

call

and for some reason he thinks that

discovering alien life would throw it to

the other guy

i don't i really don't understand the

logic of like the whole

the whole plot of this movie is based on

the fact that the chief of staff of the

president

doesn't want news to get out that we've

discovered an alien ship well i'm

imagining that this might be more of a

conservative president

and maybe a a friend of the religious

right

and it's like we can't we're going to

lose all of the churchgoers we can't

say that aliens exist yeah i mean i

think it's more about

stability because he's he's slightly in

the lead here and we don't

know what the outcome is going to be if

we suddenly have all this crazy news

happening but i feel like

you do run the risk if you wait two

weeks of losing out on the opportunity

to be the president who discovered alien

life because then the next president is

like

oh what did you find two weeks ago oh

cool i'm gonna go shake hands with that

thing

uh i also have a problem with this scene

because

there are two main characters named

frank

yeah in the same room at the same time i

was like

okay they don't even make a joke out of

it like frank no not you frank frank

yeah exactly so it's like the only time

as a writer

do you put two named characters with the

same name

is if it's a joke yeah i mean

that's if it's writing 101 yeah you try

and spread your

you can't even have two characters whose

names sound alike yeah you can't even

have a frank and a fred in the same room

in a movie

if fire and emblem the game can have 500

plus

not same named characters yeah then your

movie with 20 people cannot have the

same

i think that's the example we all go to

is fire emblem

um i have no idea what that is

uh but the chief of staff says what we

don't need right now is a bunch of

inconclusive speculation

and wild rumors floating around

washington doesn't that mean you should

be open and transparent to avoid

false information leaking well and nasa

is a public company

yeah you don't have to agency the

president found this ufo on his own

just let them make the announcement but

he mentions past

politicians who said they believed in

flying saucers and were lambasted for it

and ended up losing elections but this

isn't believing

yeah they didn't confirmation they

didn't have one in a hangar it doesn't

make any sense to pretend like this is

the same as that

those people were crazy if they said oh

yeah there's aliens all over the place

yes those people deserve to lose their

elections you don't know what they had

in their hangars

that's true we do learn there were

aliens around

and now they've been vindicated yeah

maybe now they're gonna win

the general suggests bringing the

astronauts in on the conspiracy but the

chief of staff says

you know i want to keep this as tight as

we can i don't want too many people to

know about this

for some reason forgetting that the

astronauts have already seen the

spaceship

they were the first people to see it we

don't want too many people knowing about

this

put together a team of 40 scientists yes

of which these astronauts might have

related expertise in those fields yeah

especially in how to operate or fly a

spacecraft

yeah he asks for two weeks of silence on

the matter just until we're past the

election and then

we can just pace it all over the place

in houston again

steve is awoken by a phone call from a

woman from a pr office

for no reason the agents have decided to

blame the death of gates on the

surviving astronauts

there's literally no reason to do this

other than to set them on the course of

proving their innocence

yeah and revealing the information to

the world this plot point made no sense

just no it does though why blame them

for why blame the astronauts because

they they want to be able to discredit

them saying like

well no no we saw a ufo up there and so

they're like oh they're just trying to

cover up the fact that they screwed up

so they're gonna blame aliens they

should have just killed these guys

if they're so worried about them saying

anything and they're letting

other bunch of random like just two

doctors they don't wanna they don't

wanna kill them because they don't wanna

they don't they're

actually not trying to be like malicious

in any way they're just trying to like

blame a murder on them no they're trying

to just dissuade anybody from talking

about it for two weeks

but this ruins this will ruin their

career yeah wouldn't it have been just

as easy to say

he died by accident or to blame it on

two people who didn't actually see the

spaceship and couldn't turn around and

sell that information well the two

people that saw the spaceship though

they want to be able to say

they're just trying to cover up for

themselves right but that's why they

should have just been brought

in on it in the first place blame it on

two people who don't have any control

over this situation or who didn't see

the ufo

like just pick two two random nasa

engineers who don't know that it was a

spaceship yet

and blame the murder on them they made

something they were looking for they

were looking for leverage against the

astronauts

yeah so that's what they chose but they

they never pull that lever if that's

what they're doing

well that's because the astronauts

realize they're like if we say anything

they're just gonna be like oh they're

trying to cover it up

yeah but lou takes it very weirdly in

stride considering they could go to

prison for

killing this guy he if for some reason

he's certain that they have proof he's

like oh it doesn't matter because we got

proof and it's like you don't have

anything you've

you're not at work and you go to work

and they're obviously going to have

erased it

but they head to mission control to

check out the radar telemetry and the

craft has been erased from all the

records

which if they're this easily you mean

the pong game

yeah this ship weirdly bounces directly

off the edges of the radar that you have

like

what are the odds that would hit right

at the edge of the screen that you

happen to have set up

but the other thing that's crazy to me

is that they're like oh well this was

going to be our like

super obvious proof that there was a

spaceship there and it's like

is that super great proof because it

apparently it's very easy to edit you

just go in and delete a character in the

essie text of this animation

yeah see and and that's so funny because

they all obviously have

other comp to view screens that they use

right not just on the alien spacecraft

but actually in like up on the view

there's literally a camera of you should

have seen this ufo in the shot

yeah and and so it seems so weird that

the computer that they're trying to look

at this data is so dated

yeah when when they were obviously

willing to

animate other telemetry up on these

screens of like the orbital status and

things like that just

make this look a little bit better yeah

but while they're watching this footage

the first thing that steve suggests is

well maybe we did imagine it

it's like what is wrong with you steve

just go home you don't make any sense

they try to check with harry forbes

because they're upset about the

telemetry being edited but it turns out

he's been reassigned

he arrives at hangar 18 and he gets to

see this ship

in its uh unnatural habitat in this

hangar 18.

someone asks if there's any exterior

damage and forbes says

no we think it was a controlled landing

but i would also be curious if there was

damage from when the satellite hit it

and exploded

but the implication here is that no it

didn't it didn't get damaged because it

landed

uh in a controlled way it didn't crash

land but it's like yeah but we also

fired a satellite into the side of it

and killed everyone on board

well i don't know that yet yeah and and

that's the other thing too is

is the spacecraft i'm assuming is more

advanced

especially since it can move really

quickly and then come to an immediate

stop

in in in a similar orbit as another ship

so it could probably also see that

there's another thing coming out of it

with an engine i should have been able

to avoid this space yeah

maybe we should just move the ship just

a little bit further to the right

yeah i mean i think here they're just

trying to establish that this thing is

made out of something that can withstand

a substantial amount of damage yeah and

i'm assuming they mean that

it literally like the satellite hitting

it did nothing to it

but then what exploded because the

satellite doesn't have fuel in it well

it did because i had a rocket engine was

it going that far

um well i thought it was already in

orbit they were literally depends on

what kind of satellite it was yeah was

it a nurse satellite or was it a

satellite that they were sending off to

some other planet oh okay that's true i

didn't think about that

forbes says that they also have a

linguist and two medical doctors inbound

steve and lou remember another station

called crown mountain that might have

the telemetry recorded there also

because sometimes they

record nasa missions paul one of the

doctors joins forbes

and another agent phil as they move

inside the ship

in hangar 18. as they approach the

entrance the

magnetometer magnetometer magnetometer

magnetometer the magnetometer readings

are rising

steam is dissipating from the ship as a

door unfurls in front of them

what does that mean exactly to me that's

getting more magnetic yeah that's what

it means to me

it means it's getting more magnetic but

there seems to be absolutely no

signs of such things happening i still

can't tell if you were being sarcastic

about the pronunciation or not

the way you were smirking who knows

we'll never know

inside the ship they find what they

think is an engine room

walking further a closet suddenly bursts

open

and what appears to be a pressure suit

tips out at them

scaring the hell out of them but it

literally just pushed itself out of this

closet on its own

nobody touched it this this whole thing

is like a haunted alien house

also it's like a tardis yeah because

it's like is it

is it really that big there's so much

walking to do on the inside

that's true there's a second story to

this thing yeah they find an elevator to

a higher deck but you're right

from outside the ship if there is a

second deck it's like you'd have to

crouch to fit one person

yeah but uh yeah so they they climb into

this elevator which is actually just a

triangle on the floor

between three pillars but they all get

on it yeah

and they maybe go one at a time yeah but

they realize there's like a pressure

sensitive

button that they can step on to raise

the elevator

[Laughter]

so they all write it up and then they're

basically

in the in like the the control room

of this ship the bridge i guess and they

find two dead aliens in the cockpit

but the chairs inexplicably spin around

to show the alien corpses to the people

who just showed up

i'm not sure why that would happen back

at the crown mountain station

steve and lou are surveying the

telemetry recordings

which are back to normal we see the ship

floating around like a weirdo

and the guy there says yeah well i'm

glad you like this and all but you can't

have a copy of it

so i'm not even sure why i let you guys

look at this because i could get fired

even for having you here

and they say well could you at least

look at these telemetry readings and

tell us

where you think the ship landed and he

said yeah sure i'll pull it up on the

computer

but we've already covered that this was

a controlled landing

so you wouldn't be able to tell from

these telemetry readings where the ship

landed

because it was being piloted once it

once it entered the earth's atmosphere

was it

yes yeah because i don't think it is i

think it was i think it was not some

kind of autopilot but

but forbes says that it landed itself

like it didn't it didn't just

follow a trajectory and crashed into the

planet it actually chose a place to land

yeah but i think that we were that that

what we established is that these guys

were dead by the time that happened

right but they have a you know they have

a tesla and they told it where they

wanted to go

auto park yeah just before i hit a

pedestrian

yeah look they're new okay these ufos

are going to get better

eventually we won't even need the

cockpits um it doesn't even need a

driver

yeah we don't need those little drawers

that we happen to pull out that suddenly

make it rise

um at a bar in bannon arizona everyone's

making fun of sam for his ufo sighting

and outside we see a pair of mib agents

are basically hired to follow sam around

town

the chief of staff is informed that lou

and steve are headed to bannon now

because that's where the

computer told them that the ship landed

and he recommends

getting sam the guy who saw it land a

job

somewhere in washington dc to shut him

up because he's like a contractor

and he's like we got to have some

government work out there just give him

a job and he'll shut up and and

he's basically done with this movie now

he'll never see that character again

yeah

he's it seemed like he was going to play

a big part or he was going to have some

sit down with the astronauts

there's even an even more important

character that we have one shot of and

then has never seen it never never comes

back

but yeah the uh medical team rushes

these two dead aliens out of the ship

and into some observation rooms where

they're gonna i guess perform autopsies

on things that they don't know how to

tell if they're dead or not

forbes finds a human woman in a chamber

on the ship

apparently she's still alive like she

has a pulse or something

but the doctors here specialize in alien

anatomy and can't do anything for humans

so the girl that they find in the ship

also plays no part in the rest of the

film they just

put her in an ambulance and drive her to

a hospital we never hear from her again

even though while in the ambulance she

wakes up screaming

yeah and well oh man is this movie going

to go life force on yeah that's what i

thought like

she's she's gonna be she's a vampire

crazy thing but

i didn't i wasn't even sure if she was

human or not like i thought they just

made a lot of presumptions considering

the guys in the chair look pretty much

just like weirdos with funny eyes yeah

yeah you would not

you would this woman's body would not

leave this base yeah unless she was

wearing clothes that were clearly

manufactured on the planet

you wouldn't be trying to identify her

and not trying to identify the two

pilots

so they they put her in an ambulance

that she leaves and it plays no part in

the film that

they sent her to just a hospital down

the road

instead of taking care of it in secret

like they would have we don't find out

anything about her like no nothing

there's no backstory to understanding

like what she abducted

was she we don't know if she's a man we

don't know what's happening yeah

it's totally pointless forbes is very

concerned with

whether or not the aliens were dead when

they landed but it's never made clear

why he cares so much

yeah at first i was like are you worried

that

you're gonna get charged for murder

because you've killed these two aliens

i i guess i guess there might be some

kind of

intergalactic misunderstanding right but

but he seems so like hell-bent on

getting an exact answer of like did we

kill these things

you got to tell me if we killed these

things when did they die tell me the

minute they died

those aliens were dead when we found

them yeah uh

i i guess i guess though also to me like

it would be like a press thing like

it's like were the aliens alive it's

like no they died how did they die

we shot a satellite

but we hit them with technology um

steve and lou killed him yeah i just

blame everything on them

i thought he was worried they'd be held

responsible but later when it turns out

they died as a result of the collision

with the satellite

he just doesn't give a [ __ ] he's just

like oh interesting

but it wasn't just being hit by the

satellite though

well it knocked over a vial it just

seems unnecessary

like an additional thing i mean i guess

because the ship is so sturdy and strong

we have to have something have happened

to the

inside because this tiny satellite

exploded outside of it

it comes across as just like a bad

procedural like

crime story where it's just like this

person's used to writing tv where

you need to leave a clue and the clue

leads to information and it's like

no it's it's not interesting and it

plays no part in the greater story

but uh a scientist notices a room full

of shelves with symbols on them

another alleged scientist pulls a random

lever and starts the ship hovering in

the hangar before closing it

these are the least scientific

scientists i have ever seen what's

what's this do

yeah just randomly poking and prodding

the ship to try to figure out how it

works

no no methodology here yeah yeah darren

mcgavin pushes the button

fires some lasers through the building

yeah he

uh and and here we have uh darren is the

one chastising him for his recklessness

and the site just says how am i supposed

to learn anything if i don't yank on

random levers

in this potential bomb of a spaceship

yeah he literally says

i don't know i just pulled a panel over

there and everything went haywire well

watch what you're doing

if we're gonna find out anything here we

can't keep our hands in our pockets

we've got to do

something well

be careful the chief of staff is worried

about how many people are learning about

this spaceship

and refuses to order any murders for

some reason

forbes says out loud phil's right we

gotta figure out what makes this thing

tick

to nobody apparently endorsing the

alleged scientist's plan of just pushing

buttons like he's buddy the elf in an

elevator

and uh he inadvertently charges up this

defensive laser blast and fires it

through the hanger

it goes like right in between a bunch of

scientists yeah it totally destroys a

bunch of equipment

you don't know one of those buttons

could be the self-destruct yeah one of

those could be like the auto return to

mothership button

yeah you you have to yeah you could fly

to the navigator with this thing it just

closes up behind you and you're screwed

you're just gonna suffocate in here

but yeah lou and steve land a a

single-engine plane

in bannon arizona and they rent a truck

from the guy who owns the airfield

he tells them about sam's crazy story

and i was like all right they're gonna

go find sam and get some information

and then he says you should talk to the

sheriff if you want that information and

they're like okay let's go talk to the

sheriff

who cares about the sheriff forbes finds

a button on the spaceship that turns on

the screen in the ship's screening room

i i like i like the startup splash

screen though of

the dots yeah i was like like i was like

oh that's kind of neat i like it

but he notices that the aliens have

apparently been monitoring all of

earth's broadcasts

at the end of it it ends with this logo

and they're like wait i've seen that

logo before

and then they go to the wall outside and

they see that logo on the wall and he

says

this logo means earth it's like how do

you know that

he's like well because there was footage

of earth and then the logo and then

there's the logo on the wall and it's

like

right but that could just mean what

specifically was in the footage or that

that's that could mean like landing

spots like you have no idea what it

means yeah there's also like

500 logos on this wall including like

black widows logos up here yeah there's

a there's a bunch of crazy logos this is

like is this black widow's ship i don't

know well here's what drove me crazy

is that these guys are willing to just

fire lasers

and auto take off and like pull all

these random levers where they don't

know what they do

the one thing they know how it works is

they can push a button anywhere on this

wall

and get broadcasts from all these

thousands of different planets

potentially

and they don't push a single button they

don't want to see what the news is like

on some other questions yeah like you

don't want to check and see what any of

these other planets leads to

they're obviously going to be populated

with intelligent life where they

wouldn't be

monitored in the first place but they

don't push any of these other buttons

and it drove me crazy

little shifts a bunch of buttons exactly

this whole ship's a bunch of buttons lou

and steve meet with the sheriff

and he says oh yeah sam's crazy can i

get your autographs

and they're like okay and then they sign

autographs for him

i love to have autographs of disgraced

astray

yes this is good

my favorite astronaut murderers my wife

is never going to believe this

in 20 years i'm going to get that

astronaut who tried to drive across the

country to murder her boyfriend yeah

it's gonna be great but the one bit of

information they do get is where

sam took him to show him the crash site

and so they head out there and they find

this giant

burnt shape in the ground like the size

of the spaceship just covered in

branches yeah it's like just how hard

would it have been to dump sand over

this

but they didn't do that yeah you

re-watch like

fight the future the x-files movie where

they build an entire playground although

that would have been funny too

in the middle of the desert it's just a

playground

why is this here it doesn't matter who's

the seven i'll leave all the 7-eleven on

top of it or something

men in black are watching from the

distance as they pick through this

landing site uh lou picks up this melted

rock from the ground

and as they start to head back to their

car they're interrupted by the men in

black

and they say hey where are you going and

he's like oh we're just leaving i was

just checking something out and we found

this cool rock and my son collects rocks

and they're like yeah you're gonna have

to give us that rock he's like oh okay

and then they beat up the men in black

and get in their car and drive away the

men and black keep up with them pretty

well

the two cars are swapping paint for a

bit and uh eventually the men in black

flip their car off a bridge and it

explodes and they [ __ ] die

yeah like they killed these two guys

that they were just in a car chase with

but i do like lose response of this like

you know that would have been us yeah

like because steve seems upset

and it's like dude they were gonna kill

us but we don't know that yet

we just know they were trying to

apprehend you they could have been just

trying to do a pit maneuver to arrest

you peaceably

and you murdered both of them so now you

are murderers

uh i don't know it seemed it seemed like

you were defending your life i don't i'd

be okay with it the chief of staff seems

very reluctant to kill anyone on purpose

i think robert vaughn

is just like yeah yeah he uses that i'll

just be in this movie for a day

yeah an expert tells forbes that the

symbols on the ship

match ancient egyptian fonts and crop

circles from the past well

i think they were uh like aztec indian

oh was it okay uh because like they they

mentioned mexico

but it could have been like inca like

new mexico lines or something

yeah yeah that's what i thought that

they were gonna go with but they kept

saying mexico

yeah and says well no well because

nascar's

southern south america yeah but um they

mentioned a couple different

uh they mentioned the lines in mexico

and then they mentioned

the the mexican pyramids yeah again

and he even specifies these are bigger

than the ones in giza

yeah and i was like it's like why are we

spending spending so much time here

is that why the ship is vaguely pyramid

shaped i

i'm only assuming yeah that's why why

it's in that kind of stepped

pyramid shape rather than like the

triangular tetrahedron

but anyway the astronauts the sir that

survived this

car chase go to meet with a professor

they know

i guess he's nearby and they show him

the melty rock and he goes yup that

is a melty rock good job

that basically doesn't have any more

information for them i but i almost

wonder

because the men in black knew they were

going there if

they had gotten to the scientists first

yeah and just like just tell them it's a

melting pot

it could have been anything don't tell

them that on the other side is a

corporate logo that leads to

all the information on our website

because they had a website

the doctors that they hired tell forbes

that these two aliens did not die

in a crash because there's no trauma

there's no signs of trauma

but they're not sure what it was phil

tells forbes that

the ship engine seems to collect

hydrogen as it flies

and uses a nuclear reactor to power

itself but then at the same time

he insists that this ship couldn't

possibly be fast enough to be

interstellar

it's like you don't know that you don't

know how any of this works yeah

you just admitted you have no idea how

the engine works and there's no air

resistance in space so you

have no idea how fast this thing can go

but the conclusion that it can't

possibly be interstellar

means that it must have come from a

mother ship and around the same time the

linguist

in hangar 18 cracks the code of an alien

language in just under a day

well it seemed like a pretty simple

cipher yeah but that's that's also a

problem i would say

well they kind of rosetta stoned it with

the the symbols that have been already

studied

at the in the pyramids that they have on

earth yeah they have on that we have on

earth that are on earth

that they have i'm not an alien

anyway guys gotta pull this lever and he

just floats out of our house

uh the astronauts decide that

since this leg of their search has been

fruitless that

they should try another path and they

think well if the ship landed here

then the government would move it

somewhere near here probably

and the biggest thing near here that

could handle it is this lunar landing

hangar

that they're aware of it's like an

experimental lunar landing hangar

and it's right here in texas

and it's called hangar 18 and they know

exactly which building on which air

force base it would be

i it's like it's like hangar 18 is well

known i guess in nasa

i guess maybe you don't want to put it

in the well-known nest yeah don't put it

in the first place they would check

for it forbes reads the scientists the

full text of the alien documents he's

like

all right he figured out their language

so we printed out their wikipedia

and uh i read the whole thing already

and it turns out that these aliens

created us

and god doesn't exist and let's call the

president

everybody's freaking out about it in the

room all the scientists are like do you

realize what you're saying

and the men in black call washington to

announce that

the astronauts are on their way to

midland uh which is where hangar 18 is

but as a precautionary measure they have

cut the brakes of their rental car

and so now the astronauts are driving

and they realize their brakes are out

and they're being pursued by men in

black but they

drive like off the side of the road and

crash into like

a gas plant yeah basically

so he's pumping the brakes and he's oh

no the brakes are out i said okay well

then try the emergency brakes and the

emergency it's like

okay well then shut off the engine yeah

that is the next step you do

shut off the engine or you can step on

the gas and go much faster

when you realize the brakes are out but

they build up enough speed to go

flying over a bridge off the side of the

road and into

literally like a gas plant but they

crash into it like pretty harmlessly

nobody gets really hurt that bad and

i thought those barrels were gonna blow

up yeah like i thought there was gonna

be like a risk like

maybe not kill them but the barrels were

gonna like catch fires like we gotta get

out of the car

and then then have like a big cool

explosion or something no

they just crash they get out and they're

running around this refinement plant

and the men in black are chasing them i

think they fire on them a couple times

oh yeah at this gas refinement plant

they decide to steal a tanker truck to

be safe

yeah the best thing to do if you're

getting shot at is to hide next to

hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel

they won't shoot us now

yeah the gasoline will protect us yes

lou decides to

drain the gas to keep it from exploding

i thought he was gonna drain more of it

but yeah he just uh he pulls the lever

to let the gas out on the road he

literally climbs out of the truck while

it's driving

to open the valve on the back of it

it's like it's like a mad max scene

where he's like climbing along

the frame of the truck and he keeps

almost falling off the side and catching

his grip

while he's letting all the gas out he's

also carrying with him

a road flare that he found in the glove

compartment this movie sets up things

really well

like almost too well or it's really

obnoxious like where he finds a road

flare

and he looks at it and you just this

long camera shot of him pocketing in

this row flares like yeah what are you

gonna do with that

i guess that'll come into play later i

already know for sure

i think it's gonna work out you know

what i thought was gonna happen what's

that because he fumbles around with the

fire extinguisher he's like oh

it's gonna be a fire suit he's gonna

spray on their windshield so they're not

gonna be able to follow yeah

and we're going to kill two more men no

yeah no he does anyway

well that's what i'm saying like the the

fire extinguisher would like

disable them like be like oh we can't

see versus

i'm gonna blow these guys i've already

decided i'm cool with killing men in

black

i've got a taste for murder i gotta get

a bit more

yeah so he pours gas in the road and the

guys are just driving through it because

they have to stay in pursuit of this

truck

but then he shuts off the valve yeah

and then he lights the the flare and

then he throws it

into the end of the puddle to light

their car on fire but before he can do

all this

they shoot him in the back yeah but also

they would have driven past the point at

which the gasoline stopped

yeah by then they would have but maybe

they're implying that the car is like

wrapped in fumes from driving through

the puddle for a while

but either way the car is immediately

completely engulfed in flames

and two more men in black are killed

lou also dies he basically falls off the

back of the truck after he gets shot

and is drug along the road for a while

before he lets go

but he dies in steve's arms on the side

of the road steve like looks around

at the madness that just happened and

he's like i don't have any choice i got

to get to hangar 18 now i can't

sit here with his body and get him to

the hospital like he's dead

he's a lost cause and i can't answer

questions about these other two guys

yeah so he leaves him with strangers and

then

steals their car yeah the doctors tell

forbes that the aliens apparently

asphyxiated

because when the satellite hit their

ship it knocked a dangerous vial onto

the floor of their ship

and forbes is like huh how dumb of them

stupid aliens like do they do they

expect for you to do that

i doubt it i i really i really want the

aliens

i really want to like reshoot this scene

of the aliens in the seats like

carl do you have to keep that vial of

the sodium

like right on the edge of the counter

it's fine just makes me nervous it just

makes me nervous okay

i'm just putting it out there it's on

the record i said something

i would love to also see where uh where

like the next ship comes down and like

hey so we sent a couple guys down they

were gonna give you like a bunch of

technology to help your society work

better

do you know what happened to them oh

yeah uh

steve and luke these

shitty astronauts we have but yeah

uh the general speaks with forbes on the

phone uh apparently

having only just now learned that steve

and lou were blamed for the

accident like he just doesn't read the

newspapers i guess

so forbes is like wait what is it what

is this how many days have they been on

the lamb

but the general says that he has no idea

where the story came from it's like who

did it come from then if the general the

air force didn't do it well

yeah i mean he he he's lying yeah but

he's like i don't have any idea where it

came from but i can assure you

that it has nothing to do with the

spaceship it's like

it literally only has anything to do

with the spaceship what could it

possibly have to do if not the spaceship

that's what killed the guy

we're pretty sure they confessed to the

murder yeah

it turns out there was no spaceship so

what you've been working on the last

couple days just forget about it

look at this light the chief of staff is

still

weirdly reticent to kill stephen forbes

another government official

finally pitches a plan and what they're

going to do is they're going to crash a

plane with a bomb in it

into hangar 18 and just destroy all of

this

supremely valuable information to to

help someone's re-election opportunity i

i thought for sure

that they were going to crash a

passenger plane yeah i thought

that'd be a much bigger deal but a

bigger cover-up i i don't know why i

thought i was like oh man are they gonna

crash a passenger plane because he says

planes crash every day it's like

what i thought it was gonna be like a

jet i didn't think it was gonna be like

one of these tiny little planes that

we've been flying the whole time

but also they didn't put anybody in it

yeah

it was piloted remotely yeah which i

think is crazy

i mean it felt not like i piloted

remotely think it felt like i'm gonna

put a brick on the uh

accelerator type of thing which you

don't really want to do with a plane

with a bomb in it she's like oh it's

much windier than we thought i'm sorry

sir but uh the plane landed off course

i was kind of hoping like the guy who

was in the plane with the bomb was like

yeah so we're going to need a body on

the plane so

they steal them but

that doesn't happen yeah well you know

like bane like

someone has to be on the plane a video

playing in the ship identifies a lot of

seemingly important locations we see

power plants

military bases industrial complexes and

a lower third in alien font is

unreadable

i assumed these were all targets that

the aliens had their sights

right but uh steve gets to the base he's

able to avoid arrest for a while they

chase him toward the

hangar where the ship is because they

secretly want him in there when the bomb

goes off

and they load this extremely large bomb

into their kamikaze plane

steve jumps out to attack someone

pursuing him and

finds out that it's forbes and that

forbes is still a good guy and he's like

come with me to hangar 18 i want to show

you the spaceship everything's okay

except lou is dead yeah lou's dead sorry

about that and he's like

that was the most like uncomfortable

awkward acting scene in the movie

where he's just like well what are you

talking about like they blamed us for

that kill and he's like yeah yeah i know

about all that

he's like and lou's dead he's like yeah

i heard that

that's rough man i'm real sorry and he's

just like what the hell is going on and

he's like

well look we're gonna get to the bottom

of this also like

check out this spaceship it's super cool

for some reason the dairy mcgavin

character is wearing this really

high turtleneck that looks like it's

choking him and somebody goes like

well i don't know we're gonna have to

get to the bottom of this like he looks

so uncomfortable and weird

and the angle that it's shot from it's

like a low angle looking up at both of

them as they're arguing

a lot of the angles are real low it's

like they have standing noodles mcintyre

was their cameraman for this whole thing

that's very weird i don't know who that

is but that name is so

you don't know what labels mcintyre is

that name just got me

it's uh it's from uhf it's billy barty

was the cameraman for all their news

segments

so he's shooting up at fringe rusher at

like a 45 degree angle

and she's like i'm looking everywhere

but i don't see a noodles mcintyre

and he goes macintosh at your service

because his name's actually the noodles

macintosh and i said it wrong

so they all head into the spaceship and

what i thought were targets are now

identified by the

the linguist as designated landing areas

these are all places that

the mother ship is going to send

vehicles to still sounds like

targets to me yeah well like landing

spaces like

this is another thing in this movie that

never goes anywhere or pays off like

every time they do something that i'm

like oh this is gonna be interesting

this has potential they just it just

stops it dies right there

right but but i'm i'm fine with that if

what's about to happen

was going to be the end of the year i

got real mad with the voice over here oh

yes

so immediately after they translate this

and they say

oh designated landing areas this is

where the aliens are going to come down

and try and meet with us

and then the plane hits the hangar and

it explodes

yeah and the whole thing is destroyed

end movie yeah yeah credits now that's

such an incredible ending to this movie

yeah

and someone chickened out yep higher up

and said you can't end this movie making

it look like

the mother ship is gonna send a bunch of

ships down and that we destroyed it to

avoid

like throwing a wrench into an election

process so when the smoke clears

we see that the ship is completely

untouched and then we get an epilogue in

voiceover that says

everyone inside the ship survived don't

worry they're not dead everyone

everyone there was alive and they're

going to tell the world

the election is not mentioned and it's

not relevant

to the rest of the film but also the

aliens are coming back

yeah the the message of this movie

should have been

we were almost prepared for an alien

invasion and we destroyed the only clue

that we had of what was going to happen

because of an election right and and

that would have been a really impactful

story yeah like i would have walked away

from this movie going

you know what everything that happened

up to this point that was frustrating

was worth

that one moment yeah yeah but we didn't

get it

no we didn't very voice over this don't

worry everyone's alive

and i guess we're gonna repel that alien

horde or maybe they're not evil we don't

know we know nothing

we don't know anything all we know is

that that girl and the guy who saw the

ship land

are not important to the story well we

kind of do

we didn't really mention the part either

about the whole evolution thing

well that was what i what i meant when i

said like there is no god it's what they

learned from this

alien wikipedia but yeah it's basically

just like

oh they they planted us here and they

changed our dna

but no no they planted us here and mated

with like

the pre-humans yeah primates or

neanderthals or something

they were [ __ ] so many monkeys

well that's what i imagine we'll do when

we find a intelligent life somewhere

we're just like

all right can we [ __ ] it

[Laughter]

our director here was james l conway uh

he directed we're not

we don't have more to say about this

movie no we're done okay no

no we're good let's keep going there's

so many strings that just get

dropped yeah it drives me crazy i mean

the dead astronaut guy the human woman

in the spaceship the landing sites the

evolution thing like none of those

stories they all had potential and

none of them go anywhere i feel like

this was a much longer movie even though

this movie seemed like it went

on forever yeah it was only an hour and

a half i was like 96 minutes or

something

when it was done was like there was

there's a lot

missing from this movie right yeah um

here's another thing

i think maybe steve and definitely lou

would never be allowed on a space

shuttle yeah like they're the wrong

shape

[Laughter]

like you have to be like peak physical

condition to be allowed anywhere near a

space shuttle right these guys would not

have been

they wouldn't have uh made the cut i

don't think

they're the wrong stuff

[Laughter]

nice how long have you been waiting for

that one that was fresh they're also the

least

interesting characters in the movie i

liked lou but only because

he's like every reaction that he had was

the exact wrong

not reaction that i would have where he

was just like oh yeah they framed us for

murder that makes sense well we got we

got a big bucket of proof over here

i think let me go check and see if

there's still any proof in this bucket

oh no it's empty okay well i wanted to

make some comparisons

uh uh to

uh the movie sphere okay not capricorn

one not capricorn one okay

just only because of like there's

there's some interesting like

side things i don't think that i'm not

saying that michael crichton ripped off

anything from hangar 18.

i just like i had a lot of sphere vibes

when they were investigating the ship

yeah because in sphere they put together

a team of

a mathematician a biologist and an

astronomer uh uh uh to go that's how all

of creighton's things go though yeah

yeah like that's how

that that time travel one went that's

how jurassic park goes like

uh but they also find dead humanoid

in the ship oh okay and they're trying

to investigate how they died

it ends the same way where it's

destroyed but this is before life force

though too

and life has a similar stuff also very

very similar in life force

uh so and you mentioned the flight of

the navigator which i also feel

is like a good comparison about when you

find a ship

and keeping it secret and moving it to a

facility and studying studying it

properly and

i think all those movies did it better

even life for sure

did it better even life fortunately

versus incredible yeah

that's that's definitely toby hooper's

second best movie oh my god it is so

great

i mean depending on what you think

poltergeist is

i guess it could be his third best movie

we're not talking about him we're not

talking about invaders from mars

no no i don't think so um but i also

think that this movie basically

wanted to rip off capricorn one

and they were like what if they did

capricorn one but there were aliens

and that's basically all this movie is

it's like you add one extra level to it

where it's like

it's the same thing where the astronauts

are being blamed for like a mistake and

they're being chased across the country

and trying

like the government is trying to kill

them to keep a secret well because

they're supposed to be dead

right exactly but the the that movie is

just about they faked the moon landing

and these

astronauts aren't playing along with it

it's so strange like

the aliens feature so heavily on the box

of the art

yeah anything related to the art of this

movie is has one of the aliens like in

that

bug-eyed death stare i feel like the the

only reason that their eyes were open on

set

is so that they could use pictures of

them and not give away that they're dead

for the entire movie

but yeah there's it's weird it's a weird

choice and also like

this isn't a comparison to sphere but

this is this is from the movie i

have actually not read the book so i'm

embarrassed to say uh but samuel jackson

brings up a point of

we should probably not go into the

spaceship because we assume that these

aliens are always going to be human

and biologically similar but they could

inhale oxygen and

exhale cyanide gas we have known nothing

about their biology

so then again cutting them open in this

lab where she's

completely open-faced and just like a

little bit of a face mask

like is like no you need to be like in a

full like

suit even when they went in in what i

would call a full suit they weren't

airtight suits no

yeah like they just went into ra with

radiation suits which don't need to be

airtight

yeah they they should have been wearing

like a full spacesuit to go into

exactly and when you're doing the

autopsy i know that makes it difficult

but you don't know what kind of germs or

infections

yeah uh that these aliens are carrying

it's it's

it's insane yeah these aliens are filthy

they're also dead who knows what happens

when they die they don't even know if

they're dead they could be hibernating

and you sliced it open

oh i love how these bodies lights up

what are you doing

it speaks fluent english i'm so sorry

i thought you were dead why did you take

my pulse i didn't know if you had a

pulse i'm a human

[Laughter]

so our director here was james l conway

he directed in search of noah's ark

and grizzly adams episodes for sun he

also

did earthbound the boogens and a bunch

of tv he directed seven macgyver

episodes yeah he did ranging in quality

from birthday to hell week

uh i would say those that's his worst

and best episode yeah

say hell week is his best yes yeah yeah

hell week is the one where they build

the machines to lock all the doors in

the dorm room

rhyming sun and the kids steal the

nuclear bomb

professor ryman and professor sun uh he

also directed

episodes of four and a half star trek

series

the half is orville he's directed some

orvilles

he also directed eight episodes of the

magicians

writer ken pettis is credited here as

stephen thornley

he's written for lots of tv series that

have been adapted into films in the last

30 years like wild wild west

mission impossible green hornet the

story here was by

thomas c chapman who also wrote the

boogens another sun project

uncredited story credits went to steven

lord and david o'malley

steven lord wrote a lot of old tv stuff

original outer limits fantasy island and

chips

and david o'malley wrote fatal instinct

which is a parody of basic instinct and

fatal attraction

directed by carl reiner the music here

was by

john kokovos who did the

kojak theme and then into our cast here

gary collins was steve bancroft

he plays sy jordan in airport the first

airport movie

robert vaughn was gordon kane he plays

ross webster in superman 3. he's gelt

in battle beyond the stars

uh and we have him as colonel masters in

chud 2

and he also played dick lecter in would

you

bring up the magnificent seven sure he's

in there too

james hampton was lou price he plays the

dad and teen wolf

he's also the uncle in teen wolf 2

because that's a cousin

bill gibson in china syndrome and he

plays jerry woolridge

in slingblade pamela bellwood was sarah

michaels

she plays carol in cereal that we

covered earlier this year

she plays lisa in airport 77 she's also

peggy ramsey in two minute warning

which if you haven't seen it is a movie

about a guy trying to kill a bunch of

people

at a football game yeah it's really good

stephen keats

was paul bannister he plays jack toby

in death wish he plays chuck wade in the

last dinosaur

and he played robert mashevsky in black

sunday which if you haven't seen it is a

different movie

about guys trying to kill people at a

football game william

shalert played professor mills he was dr

greenbush in inner

space and wesley hodges on the

torkelsons

which i used to watch he he's a joe

dante regular yeah he's always worked

into one way or the other

it bringing up uh matinee previously

yeah and uh he plays the doctor in the

mant

okay yeah half man half aunt

darren mcgavin is harry forbes he plays

billy madison's dad

he's also the dad in a christmas story

and

he is uncredited as gus sands in the

natural he's so great

the natural is one of my favorite films

yeah

for those who don't know it is a movie

about baseball

but it's also like grounded in like

greco-roman myth interesting

it's so supernatural and and bizarre

it's not saying like you won't say oh

like you're not going to like identify

any specific

mythology but it is about mythology

yeah uh and uh it's so good

we also had stuart pink in here as sam

tate we just had him as

dudley in the hollywood nights the kid

whose costumes keep getting stolen

he also he also plays jimmy in

fatal attraction which is the real movie

that was half

parodied by basic attraction or

fatal whatever the other movie was

called honestly whenever i try to say

that

instinct i always say the parody title

when i'm because i don't remember what

the other movies are called

he also played sheriff parsons in

arachnophobia we had bill zuckert as ace

landon here

he plays mr finkel in ace ventura you

know one of them

hard copy guys and he's also

uh mr menges in critters three which i

believe is the

feature film debut of a young leonardo

dicaprio ed

e carroll plays men in black officer

number three

he played the thief in the thief and the

cobbler

yeah wait no jonathan winners did the

thief

well he's credited as thief in thief and

the cobbler

uh i wonder if there might have been

another thief but

uh because the main guy is jonathan

winners they also went through several

verse casts correct sean connery at one

point was in the movie and things like

that so that could have been too

john william galt plays a nasa official

he plays

lbj in forrest gump and jfk

and he's also the warden in problem

child one

i also like galt from a uh

deus ex a game uh video game from the

year 2000

from the year 2000. uh but

uh because i was looking at his credits

like oh he was in dave's ex

awesome nice well the next time anyone

asks you who is john galt you can say

he played lbj and forced gump in jfk

and then they'll be confused why you

said that um chess up or down on this

one

i'm gonna oh god i'm gonna give it a

down i think

i'm just happy that it was reluctant

i'm giving it up but i understand

completely richard

uh i'm giving it a down again just

because of that ending

i i i just i cannot stress my

disappointment in this ending no it was

sad

um overall it's

it's it's a messy movie all of darren

mcgavin's scenes

seem like they were improvised yeah like

like he just did not

bother to read the script and just tried

to say whatever he thought

was appropriate at the time you know

there was also too many dudes in this

movie

oh totally well i mean not only was

there just a general lack of women in

this movie

but there was way too many characters

for this story to support i kept getting

confused as to who everybody was because

they all looked the same

and i was just like who are you people

why do you matter

no it was for sure a mess so yeah uh

what are we doing list wise guys

richard do you know where this goes i

think i'm gonna put this

just below a small circle of friends

okay which is just above

above uh humanoids from the deep okay

wait above humanoids above human eyes oh

that's wrong

oh no you have to fix that

humanoids is classic there's literally

nothing wrong with humanoids it's the

perfect film

that's why it's on the top of my list

it's definitely not uh

jess where's this going on your list oh

god this is hard

i think i'm gonna put it above holy

moses

and below herbie goes bananas that's

fair i think that's accurate that's

definitely true for me too but there's

so many movies between those actually

there's not there's only four movies

between those for me and i'm putting it

directly in the middle

of those two movies for me it goes

between the children

and death ship so just below the

children and just above death ship for

me

is that up pretty high then that's not

super high the children's pretty low

but i actually was thinking if if there

was a shot where they fired at them on

the

gas refinement place and it hit a pipe

that i would recommend this as a double

feature with the children

like they shot a pipe at the refinement

place and then that

caused the gas i i also forgot

what the children was just now i was

like what the hell is the children

i was like surprised that you have the

children above death ship

i am too but i do apparently

um i think if i had to choose between

re-watching one of them though it would

be the children

oh really yeah i think that's everything

for this one

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house of dark shadows the first feature

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diary of a mad housewife a comedy drama

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airplane with an exclamation mark which

imdb describes like so

a man afraid to fly must ensure that a

plane lands

safely after the pilots become sick