we're on a mission from god

wendy so i got that going darling

i picked the wrong way to quit sniffing

blue light of my life

we enjoy your films

i thought they smelled bad on the

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[Music]

welcome to vintage video where we're

re-watching the 80s so you don't have to

we'll be reviewing every major film

release of the 1980s in real time

overanalyzing what you've seen and

spoiling what you haven't i'm patrick

o'reilly i'm jesse bayless and i'm

richard wells and today marks the 40th

anniversary of the release of the big

red one

on july 18 1980 it was written and

directed by samuel fuller and released

by united artists

the big red one is largely based on

writer director samuel fuller's actual

experiences in world war ii

specifically the character of zab who

like fuller had

only learned of the publishing of his

first novel when he found a fellow

soldier reading it on the front lines

warner brothers was interested in making

the big red one in the 50s with john

wayne

not fuller's first choice as the

sergeant

and sent director fuller to europe to

scout for locations

fuller said that he directed the film

merrill's marauders in 1962 as a dry run

for this film

when jack l warner argued for extensive

cuts to merrell's marauders

the plans for the big red one were

dropped was that also a war movie

yes peter bogdanovich helped fuller set

the film back up at paramount but when

the studio

had frankia blans left

the project was put in turn around and

eventually fell to lorimar to produce

and was eventually distributed by united

artists bogdanovic was originally set to

produce the film

and play the robert carradine part but

uh

he pulled out late in the game and

brought in gene corman to produce

apparently fuller was also pushing for

scorsese to play private vinci

but scorsese had to back away from the

project when the production schedule

threatened to overlap with raging bulls

i didn't know he did acting roles a

couple

small ones but um i guess he was going

to be in here until it was too late

the bulk of the film was shot in israel

using jewish extras to play all the

nazis

which made for a very disorienting set

yeah evidently when the actors playing

the

four horsemen first met lee marvin he

didn't speak to any of them for the

whole drive to a shooting range where

they'd be doing some training

and eventually when he did speak he said

which one of you is carradine

and then robert said i am and he said

[ __ ] you carradine

[Laughter]

and later he admitted that he'd only

picked on carradine because it was the

only name that he recognized

evidently the film was mistakenly placed

on the uk's video nasty list and

temporarily

confiscated because the title was

mistaken for a pornographic film

was so there was another film that had a

similar name no oh

they just read the big red one they just

saw the big nope

nope and they were like no we don't have

to read what this is about well that's

the way i was reading it before too like

before i knew anything about it it was

like the big red one

no but it's the big red one yeah you

know which makes a difference that

sounds like it could be a subtitle to a

hellboy film an extended version dubbed

the reconstruction

includes an extra 47 minutes of extra

footage we did not watch that we watched

the theatrical cut

i think seven minutes 27 minutes this

movie

is less than two hours so 47 minutes is

like

150 of the film practically yeah i don't

think the film needs another 47 minutes

it is

fine the way it is there is an unwritten

rule that a war movie has to be almost

three hours long

it's so silly but i mean that i think

puts another check box in the why i

don't like to watch war movies yeah

because they're all epics

yeah although this one is like epic on a

budget like you can tell

where they're stretching which is funny

because i liked this one and i was like

maybe that's why maybe if everybody just

took a hacksaw to a war movie i might

actually watch them yeah

they tried that uh with hacksaw ridge

we start the film in black and white in

the ninth configuration apparently

the configuration what yeah we opened up

with this big christ

on across visage overlooking in black

and white mountains in black and white

okay this reminded me of the moon scene

moonscape

by the way if you're hearing a little

clickety-clackity in the background it's

because we're

we're recording uh in our garage and god

is crying outside so

sorry maybe i could clean it up in the

edit

but yeah uh lee marvin's walking through

the aftermath of uh battlefield in

france

and he stops to check a corpse for signs

of life

when a crazy horse races toward him

stomping on his rifle

and just bashing it to pieces and uh

scaring him behind this huge crucifix

suddenly a hun approaches saying the war

is over in german

with his hands up but lee marvin knifes

him in the chest

and we tilt up to jesus on the cross

with ants in his eyes

we head back to the trenches lee marvin

tells a fellow soldier what happened

he collected a strip of red fabric and

he was inspired by the

the dead huns helmet to stitch a one

onto his shoulder to represent the first

infantry division

the guy asks marvin when he killed this

hun

and he says that the armistice was

signed at 11 am

and hands him a bottle to drink and says

the war's been over for four hours and

he said you know it was over

and he says he did narration from robert

carradine as zab

starts up i could have lived without any

of this actually i didn't know

which character i mean until because you

are telling me now i guess

yeah that might have been him but

throughout the entire film i had no idea

who was talking as soon as it started i

i recognized it as louis skelnick from

revenge of the nerds yeah

this is definitely robert carradine i

didn't even know he was in the movie and

i was like i know the actor whose voice

this is

yeah but they never make an

establishment of the characters

throughout the whole film

yeah he never refers to himself as i

like

well he kind of does when he's going

around and introducing each of these

guys he says

and that's me zab and then he talks

about

his background i guess i missed that

knowing that there's a 47 minute longer

version i have a feeling that this

narration

probably wasn't in it i wouldn't be

surprised if it wasn't but it also feels

like

the movie has a bit of an identity

crisis as far as who the main character

is

because lee marvin's character starts

the film by himself

and you know he he rides through it with

all sorts of stuff happening to him but

he doesn't really have an arc like he

doesn't seem to change much

not as much as the mark hamill character

seems to change yes yeah

and usually the person who changes the

most is the main character

zab doesn't change at all i don't feel

like and zab

is not interesting enough to be the main

character of this movie

so it's just i don't know who i'm

supposed to focus on i feel like zab is

definitely

based on fuller so it would make sense

but i never would have picked him out of

the crowd to be the lead character of

this

he didn't play an important role in any

of the events

yeah not really i guess i would come

around with that only in that he's the

writer

that he wrote this story he's the

storyteller yeah so he's the main

character

but it but just because you're the

narrator doesn't mean it's your story

yeah that's true but but i have a

feeling that this is more like that this

is the story that he's writing

yeah and we're just hearing him write it

because basically everything that

happened in this movie happened to

samuel fuller

during the war so it's like he edited

his diary into the 10 most interesting

things that happened to him

during world war ii and then made a

movie about it but yeah robert carradine

is here and he's explaining you

he just told us the origin of the big

red one that basically he's

he's taking credit for that flashback we

just saw that that he told us that

information

and we fast forward to north africa in

1942

were in color this time and we're

introduced to

uh marvin's uh referred to as the

sergeants

wet noses i don't think they ever give

him a name they just call him sergeant

for the rest of the movie

so the four characters are griff the

sharpshooter played by mark hamill

johnson a pig farmer with hemorrhoids

who barely does anything in this movie

there's a few characters that are i

think considered extras that are that

play a bigger part than this guy does to

me

vinci uh street kid who played hot noise

on the sacks

and zab a novelist looking for a war

novel inspiration

so he basically enlisted specifically so

he could write stories about war

zab mentions a book that he wrote called

the dark deadline which is likely a

reference to director fuller's own novel

the dark page

he explains that it's an unpublished

mystery novel and that he left it with

his mother

before he left for the war griff is

drawing a

large and not particularly good

political cartoon but

uh that never really pays off that he's

a cartoonist either

the cartoon is anti-vichy french and he

has to explain to johnson that no vichy

is not a kind of soda

but rather the french fighting on the

nazi side

as a precaution they have dropped

leaflets into north africa

where the french soldiers are and they

will wear american flags hoping to avoid

a confrontation altogether

they all start putting condoms on their

rifles to keep them dry in the water

i don't see how that could help at all

no because there's still all kinds of

other parts of the gun

right but i don't doubt that this is

based on something that they actually

did i just

wonder how actually useful it was that

they were doing it at the start of the

scene i did not realize he was talking

about the guns

i think that was intentional oh like you

you're just like all right

you don't want salt water in there is

that a thing do you want to keep salt

water out

yeah definitely oh man

[Laughter]

burns for days they all start putting

condoms on their rifles

and frenchmen on the beach are reading

the leaflets that uh marvin mentioned in

the dark

when they hear an announcement coming

from the water the americans announced

their approach which i feel like

they also shouldn't have done like the

leaflets should have been enough

yeah while you're like shoot this way on

the way into the well i

i guess it's just i don't know what the

rules of engagement are in the situation

i also wonder if it wasn't just a

budgetary thing where they were like we

don't have a lot of boats

so for the for when they are beaching

we'll have

inserts but for the wide shots we'll

just have the sound

play well i think it's also to sort of

be like hey in good faith

those leaflets weren't lying we are the

americans we're coming we're not going

to shoot you and

you know because if you were trying to

pull one over on them

i don't think you would have announced

yourself once you got there yeah

but also who would have been trying to

sneak in

yeah posing as the americans yeah yeah

it's like the germans are like we

already took over

and you're fighting for us now please

don't shoot at us

we're pretending to be american

the commanding officer on the beach says

hold your fire but then a general shows

up and demands action

he shoots a soldier who disobeys a

direct order and starts firing one of

the big guns himself

kicking off a short skirmish the vichy

general is very quickly killed by his

own men

who wanted to join the americans but now

that they're shooting back and forth

it's kind of too late to

announce that but so they were vichy

well technically speaking they were they

were under a general

yeah yeah but they were like they didn't

care

yeah yeah so the americans gave them the

opportunity to be like

yeah we don't want to do that right and

if that general hadn't gotten to that

gun

then basically they they could have just

killed that general and avoided this

whole fight

because that was the only guy who was

like trying to prove his loyalty to

the the germans some of the frenchmen

who refused

their generals orders are ironically

being killed in this shootout by the

americans

griff fires one shot way off target and

then totally freezes up for the rest of

the fight

eventually captain chapier on the french

side

gets a hold of a speakerphone and

announces their surrender and the

general's death

but instead of accepting a surrender

basically in response the americans say

well you can't surrender unless you're

surrendering

basically your choices are to continue

fighting with us or fight with the

germans yeah but neither one is a

surrender you're just joining a

different army yeah

they won't accept a surrender so if

you're gonna

if you're if you're gonna claim to still

be vichy after this fight is over

yeah then you might as well just keep

fighting yeah after that

everyone basically greets each other

joyfully on the beach even as their

friends are dying in puddles around them

griff was pretty messed up

about having frozen like that we see a

bit with the troops sitting around

eating lunch near a beach

and a small girl is following the

sergeant around wherever he goes

when griff finally shows up he tells the

sergeant that he can't murder anybody

and

sarge explains the difference between

murder and killing

because we don't murder we kill

it's the same thing the hell it is griff

you don't murder animals you kill them

this setting kind of reminded me of

lawrence of arabia

sure yeah just the general look about

i could see that wait they both happen

in north africa right

i mean do you consider arabia part of

africa

i don't want to offend any listeners who

might be from the middle east

who do not consider themselves part of

africa or europe

who knows they're their own continent

sarge eventually gives the lunch that

he's eating to this young girl that's

following him around because clearly

that's what she's been waiting for

we cut to the german side on some

african sand dunes and general schroeder

speaks with some of his men about the

big red one

one of them gerd tells a very

unpatriotic story about the hymn of

hitler's party

that they're all listening to apparently

it was originally a poem by horst wessel

horse vessel was a pimp who supplied

hitler with baby faces like you

he was killed in a brawl over a [ __ ] in

berlin

[Laughter]

a poem by a pimp became the hebrew

fiddler's party

schroeder's not amused by this little

anecdote

and gerd complains that schroeder used

to be tough

he says in libya i saw him murder a

german officer

and he says i didn't murder him gerd i

killed him he ran from a fight with the

british

and then schroeder announces their next

move through the kazareen pass behind

the panzer division

and gerd says no i'm not going to choke

on tank fumes

i'm no damn nazi fanatic like you

germany is through singing for hitler

and then of course as to is to be

expected he's shot dead and tumbles down

this sand dune

you're getting like a comparison of the

two two conversations of the same type

right in that the sergeant talking with

griff about you gotta you know you don't

murder or you kill him

but i guess in a in a way accepting his

this descent like trying to trying to

talk him into it but

not like trying to

blame him or kill him for it but i also

feel like what

what gerd is saying is different than

what griffin is yeah no but i mean it's

i guess also just

how how the different sides are handling

the situation yeah but i feel like if

griffin had said

[ __ ] america i'm not gonna kill any more

people

like i'm not gonna dance to the

president's drum anymore that

the sarge would have killed him i don't

i don't know

i thought i thought the point of this

was more that they're similar than that

they are different i think he said

the hell with fdr i don't know if he

would have

just outright killed him i think if he

refused a direct order he would have

he tries to later i mean he's not trying

to but

i think he would have done it later um i

also am not a big fan

of seeing and i think this is the last

time that we do this

where we see the other side and having

conversations that are outside of the

knowledge of the writer

yeah that is weird i'm fine with having

a narrator in most films but the

narrator can't know things

that no one ever told him yeah i mean

conceivably he learned this after the

movie but then it's a spoiler that he

survives the film

yeah and also how would he have had this

conversation with these germans about

this german who got shot for some reason

well because he encounters schroeder

later in the film

oh does he yeah oh oh that's

oh okay yeah i was confused at who that

was

yep that's who it was the allied front

is headed to spiva

but the big red one is stationed around

back at the kazareen pass

because they're like oh there's an off

chance that they're going to bring the

tanks through here

and of course that's where they bring

all the tanks through it's kind of funny

to have mark hamill

in israel pretending to be in tunisia

when the first three star wars movies

were all shot in tunisia pretending to

be

a galaxy far far away the

men studiously brush dust from their

rifles and the path of a tank division

and they're left with no option but to

dig in and literally bury themselves in

the path of these tanks

yeah what was the plan here i don't know

and i can't believe that they dug these

holes this deep

and and that quickly and that that quit

that deep that quickly and that none of

the german soldiers on foot

noticed that saw these gigantic holes

but uh they were only person sized holes

and i presume that they were squatting

in them so they probably weren't six

foot deep holes

but still but even if they're three and

a half or four foot deep

what was happening was so there was a

large rock and the past sort of

split around both sides of this rock and

i think what they were anticipating was

let's go left let's hope they go right

and they won't run over us

and we'll just hide in these holes but

that's not what happens

zab stupidly leaves a freshly stomped

cigar on the ground but that doesn't

really matter

it's just to scare us well i was really

worried about that and then it never

came back

yeah but uh they get into these holes

and

uh somehow these germans didn't notice

the holes or the cigar

and as the tanks are moving over the

holes the men are screaming one at a

time

yeah but it's not it's clear that the

tank isn't even touching some of them

so they're just screaming out of fear i

i guess the tunnel

i i'm assuming that that the hole is

collapsing around them

maybe but i'm not an expert on tanks but

the whole concept of the tank is that

the weight is displaced

yeah it's distributed um and so i don't

unless that

dirt is extremely loose which would make

sense that they were able to dig these

holes this quick

yeah but and just the pressure of it was

enough to

collapse it so i wasn't clear did they

die did they yeah were they i think they

are all dying because

we specifically see all four of our main

characters jump out of their holes

okay and so the presumption is the other

guys didn't show

anyone who didn't do that got killed

okay so yeah at the last second we see

our four guys jump out

and a small firefight ensues the

sergeant is shot in the back

and falls to his knees reenacting what

actually happened to lee marvin in world

war ii

though he fought in the pacific theater

not in africa

and the tanks start firing on the

americans as they're scattering over

these rocky hillsides on either side of

the pass

sarge wakes up who knows how much later

months weeks

i don't know yeah but he wakes up in a

temporary german hospital in tunis

where he's being informed the war is

over for you

we won you lost suddenly air raid sirens

are blaring

and sarge tries to escape this unmarked

hospital because

that's what gets bombed is the unmarked

hospitals yeah

and an injured man from the big red one

enters

and he's in search of some compatriots

when he finds sarge he informs him that

the big red one swept through the

kazareen pass after them

and basically took a lot of targets

including tunis

and sarge assumes that this man is

mistaken because he reminds him

this is thomas before a squad of

americans sweep through the hospital

with rifles and sarge is like oh

you did take tunis okay that's cool so

what was the point of the guy

lying to him that was someone that was

fat like running the place running the

facility on the german side

yeah it was it was right before the the

americans had taken the hospital

oh okay so that guy didn't know that

tunis had been taken

exactly and there's those just right

that was the air raid siren he was just

trying to prevent this guy from

trying to killing people or yeah i mean

it's like the tokyo rose kind of

situation of like you just say oh you're

losing everything's going

they just have our way just discouraging

information

yeah it's like saving private ryan when

they're

in the being shot at and they're

hunkered down the germans on the pa and

it says

the statue of liberty is caput

that's disconcerting

we cut to sarge arriving in algiers not

wanting to be left out of an upcoming

mission

uh through sicily with his men somehow

out of the

original 12-man rifle squad is now down

to the four men we've been following

they rise slowly on the beach and run to

reunite with their sergeant

and we are suddenly in sicily 1940. it's

like this

grand sweeping music and it's like oh

this is the end of the movie

we also go to this super wide shot

because they're like what would happen

here it's like

they're not going to run up and hug him

yeah because that's not what this

sergeant would put up with so exactly

they're just going to run up and get

close and be like

hi sarge and then go back to the water

so they just go super wide so that

your brain can just fill in the blanks

of what happened when they reunited yeah

i also like that lee marvin is smoking a

cigar through his robes

yes but also at this point why is he

still wearing the robes

why not why is he trying to conceal his

face from other soldiers

because it's a secret face sicily 1943

on the boat there another soldier named

shep starts ragging on vinci about being

italian

and uh he doesn't count on him to fight

against other italians in sicily

and he says i think all you'll do is

drink [ __ ] red and sing o

solo mio and then zab grabs the guy and

holds his mouth open so vinci can jam

his rifle in

and then he just starts singing

but he i think those are the only words

he knew because after that he just goes

the guy the guy whose mouth he's holding

the gun in is like actually

bleeding yeah i'm not surprised he's

just dripping with sweat

yeah there's a lot of really sweaty

things going on in this movie

yeah and he's like i like i sold a meow

shep apparently found a roll of toilet

paper at the hotel in algiers and he

plans to bring it with him

but as they're approaching the beach in

our our second beach assault in this

film

it gets shot out of his hands we all

know what a precious commodity toilet

paper is now we appreciate this

scene we didn't appreciate it back then

but now we do they attack

a second beach and move inland vinci

asks for a transfer

and sarge transfers him to the point

because

he's not going to get put in a different

group as they approach an abandoned

village they send vinci as a point man

in case they're snipers and apparently

that was the the best uh

plan that west point could come up with

was here's how you find a sniper

push a guy out there and if he explodes

then

then there's bad guys i mean i feel like

this whole

movie was sort of like that for me

because i don't watch more

war movies i don't know a lot about this

stuff but i'm like it is horrifying

to see how we actually dealt with this

stuff and i'm sure we have progressed a

lot since world war

ii in terms of our tactics but like

literally just using

people in this way is just so horrifying

i also feel like

if you send one guy out you can't all

follow him that quickly because

if the sniper's not going to give away

his position then he has no motivation

to kill the first guy

when six more guys are going to come out

otherwise yeah so why don't you just

wait and see if there's other people

with him because this guy's probably not

by himself here

at a split vinci takes the right and he

sends sarge and the boys around to the

left

sarge approaches a corner and he finds

an enemy grenadier

he tosses the man one of his own

grenades and the man drops the one he

was holding

to catch sarge's which i guess in

essence set both of them off

that's like one of those things where i

feel like you hand somebody something

when they're on the phone they'll just

take it

if you throw a grenade at somebody

they'll drop their own grenade yeah but

the funny thing is it didn't even have

to be a grenade he could have thrown him

like a hot dog and the guy would have

dropped his own grenade

that would have been a very different

scene yeah this is all i have is

it's like what is it and uh escape from

new york or escape from la

it's like no one draws to this candice

the ground yeah well it's also like uh

in uh where the buffalo roam earlier

this year when they're about to go into

court

and uh hunter just hands a sandwich to

the

the prosecuting attorney as he's like

turning around to go into the courtroom

and the guy takes it like without

thinking about it and he's like

the [ __ ] am i gonna do with this

sandwich now

when the smoke clears sarge sees that

finchy had the guy in his sights the

whole time

and that it was basically revenge for

being made the point man

and he's like okay well you're reward us

you get to stay the point man then

zab's narration gets into the war movie

trope of avoiding

getting to know your fellow soldiers

because they come and go so fast

a babyface soldier named smitty brings

them a bucket of water

and the four of them all use it before

the bucket makes it back around the loop

to him

when he leaves he trips over

there's a trip line to a mine and he

lands on it

and it blows off one of his balls marvin

just kind of picks it up and chucks it

yeah sarge gets to him first and he's

like oh that's just that's not to kill

you it's to castrate you and it's like

why do they make traps just to castrate

people just kill me

but he's like just one of your balls

smitty and he picks it up and it's just

like

uncle he's a big hunk of bloody meat and

he throws it across the court he's like

you can live without it that's why they

gave you two

so you could trip over two of these

lines after two you're done

yeah moving through fields between

cities they take shelter in a natural

cave formation

they talk about just how surrounded they

are and that all of their big guns and

tanks are still on the water they

haven't even made it to europe yet

griff considers running away but

rethinks it knowing that sarge will

shoot him and i'm pretty sure that he

would have here

if he tried to just run out they hear

another panzer division moving past

probably the same tanks but it's a

different panzer division

an enemy soldier moves into the mouth of

the cave to take a piss

and then eventually he just leaves a

second soldier moves deeper into the

cave to do a search

and they discreetly stab him to death as

bombs are suddenly heard going off

outside the cave

griff recognizes the explosions as

american weaponry somehow

and he says i thought our guns were

still on the water now enemy soldiers

looking for safety from the bombs

are rushing into the cave one at a time

luckily and sarge has the men set up a

relay

to shoot these guys as they're coming in

and then move the bodies so that

people continue to come in eventually

the shooting stops and the bombs stop

and

sarge radios his lieutenant and we

learned that the artillery fire came

from the navy

a ship that's like miles offshore and

somehow took out this entire panzer

division

and there's literally zero survivors i

guess yeah uh

well because i guess the the survivors

were running into the cave and they got

blasted yeah but

were there only seven people with these

tanks because there should be more

survivors than this

yeah and i mean generally

yes these navy ships can shoot miles

but you need someone spotting the target

right you can't have it blind and you

can't hit

15 people in the desert well the others

might have

run inland or something but either way

they've been scared off from this

location yeah

now they're in sicily and they're

looking for a big gun called an sp

that the allies have sp of course

scientology wise

is a suppressive person we all know that

because we haven't mentioned it on the

show yet but we're all scientologists

so don't be a suppressive person that's

not true

none of that is true but i am glad that

they

used several tactics in this movie to

fill you in to fill me in on what the

hell is going on with all these war

terms because i don't know what any of

them mean

but then it didn't end up being that it

ended up being just a tank in a house

well it had wheels but it was just

rolled into a house

yeah wasn't it was it just a tank i

think it was just a tank hiding inside

of a house

oh so maybe they misinterpreted what

kind of weapon it was

yeah but either way they were hoping

that spy planes would find it

but for whatever reason they haven't yet

so vinci

moving through sicily falls down a stone

staircase

and just by happenstance lands on a box

full of

2500 bucks worth of lyra can it's for my

old man

you always want to open up his own bagel

shop which in this line reading

i i he like stumbles over it yeah i i

went back over and over and over again

to re-listen as like

he always wanted to open his own bagel

shop yeah

it's like was that the best take you got

yeah this of

him saying this line what what was i

supposed to say bagel shop sorry

yeah that's great cut print then they

meet italian finn wolfhard in the

village yeah

that's exactly what he said

he's uh he's moving through uh he's

moving through this broken downtown

he's uh he's leading a donkey with a

trailer carrying the the sun-bloated

corpse of his mother

he also already has a group of soldiers

as an escort

he explains to them that his mom died

and he wants to bury her with his father

and they ask if the kid knows where the

sp is for some reason but he happens to

and but here's where they use the trick

that you see yeah

because he's like yeah he says he

doesn't know what an sp is and he's like

hey knucklehead

ask him where the thing is tell him it's

a it's a big gun on wheels

it's a self-propelled i guess is sp

right self-propelled gun

and the kid knows exactly what he's

talking about which shocks all of them

to the point that i don't know why they

asked to this kid where this gun was

but they agree to bring his mother if he

shows them they're like oh we'll just

park her in the shade

here and we'll come back and get a toe

later and he's like no we're going to

bring her the whole way

and you're going to do what you said or

i'm not going to show you the gun at all

and he wants an ambulance he wants her

body to get

taken to the cemetery and jayla and he

wants a coffin with four handles

so he leads them true to his word and

they find the gun

it's uh it's housed in this hollowed-out

building

firing out of a window so it's invisible

from above because it just looks like a

house

and to complete the picture they've

surrounded it with uh women forced

to pretend to toil in the fields under a

supervisor

lee marvin says it makes for a nice

peaceful picture from the air

they leave a man behind to take out the

schmeiser which is what they call the

the guy supervising the women in the

field

but it's not griff who's the

sharpshooter i guess he's just

oh he's still not a terrible shooter now

and he doesn't want to kill anybody

so his instructions are when he hears

them shooting to kill this guy on the

field

they sneak up behind the building and

they find three or four men working the

gun

one's on the radio one's reading paper

one is shaving

and sarge assigns each man a target by

pantomiming their activities

and the next time the the sp goes off

they fire on all these guys and kill

them all simultaneously

and then the schmeiser in the field is

taken out and the women with

scythes all start slicing up the dutch

miser in the field

which is a great you have like his pov

looking up at the sky and then

all these women come in and just start

swinging their sides down on him

uh and just for clarity after a little

bit of googling it looks like sp

can be a term used for a tank spg is a

type of

it can be a table there it is okay cool

because i guess the tank is

self-propelled there's various versions

of it there's kind there's kinds of guns

that are on

like trucks and stuff like that but

there's you know a tank could be

considered an

spg or a self-propelled gun or artillery

yeah all right to show their

appreciation these women cook the

americans a huge meal

for freeing them and and liberating

their their village

the boy sits off on his own eating by

himself just kind of sad

until sarge gets confirmation that a

silk lined coffin with six handles is

inbound

and i wanted the kid to be like i said

foreign he only wanted four

and no more not one handle more and they

just

break them off disrespect griff draws

pictures for the women and thanks for

the meal but we don't see the pictures

and that's the last time he draws

anything in this movie

before they leave sicily sarge is

looking for his helmet and

a girl appears and returns it to him

decorated in flowers

zab says the crowds are going to spot

that garden from a mile away

and he's looking at the girl and he says

i like the smell i really wanted him to

wear this helmet like this for the rest

of the movie

he does not but he does wear it out of

the village like that

suddenly we're back in the boats again

prepping for d-day a guy named lemchek

has been assigned number two for the

mission and he's trying desperately to

swap with somebody else

here though what's that they had they

had like a nine month break or something

like that

so they they got some leave and then

they're back but we don't see any of it

he says he's willing to pay ten thousand

dollars in the form of his like gi

insurance basically if i get killed i

get ten thousand dollars

i'll put you down as my dependent and

you'll get the money but nobody wants

his

number two which makes sense they hit

omaha beach the next morning

i'm betting that all these boat scenes

were shot the same day and probably all

three beach storming scenes were shot on

the same beach

part of what makes this movie feel a

little cheap is that we keep repeating

scenes and locations lem check is shot

first

and vinci laments having passed up on

ten thousand dollars but that doesn't

make any sense to me

because if he if he was number two he

probably would if he had taken up on it

he would have been the one that was dead

well he didn't die because he was number

two here he

he died before they even started

counting off numbers to put the

the bangalore together but yeah so

so wait the number was for what getting

what order you're going to put that tnt

pipe together

yeah so i'm saying if he if he had but

he got he got killed before they even

made it fully onto the beach

okay i guess i mean his odds of survival

were still very low yes

but given how lucky these four guys are

they could have saved a lot of men by

just putting vinci number one

yeah yeah exactly the lucky guy first

the camera's on you a lot maybe you

should go first

we see a wristwatch of a dead soldier in

the tide i don't know if this is

supposed to be lemchek

but right now the time says 6 30 we're

assuming that's

when they hit the beach the men are

basically pinned under heavy fire and

can't move in either direction because

there's a big wall of barbed wire that

was supposed to be taken out by four

different teams before them and

it didn't get bombed it didn't get

bazookaed and so now it basically falls

to them to take care of

so they have a thing called a bangalore

relay

which is just a really dumb looking

invention

it's a big metal tube full of tnt and

they have to like

bring it over in segments and then

connect it where they want it to go off

yep and each of them carries like one

piece out so that they can assemble it

all together because i guess it's too

heavy for one person to carry by himself

right number one is sent out with two

segments of the bangalore

right as he is basically crossing over

into the no man's land he gets blown up

but somehow his segments of bangalore

don't explode which i guess is good

number two lem check is no more so

number three is sent out

and he connects his bangalore segments

to number ones and then gets killed

number four is sent out he makes a

little more progress he drank drags the

pieces further up the beach

and then he's shot five heads out five

and six are shot

seven's already dead so eight is up and

that's griff

uh zab tells him he better survive

because zab is nine

and doesn't want to go out here griff

falls once next to the body of one of

the men sent earlier

and i can't tell exactly what he's

looking at here at first i thought the

implication was that this guy is

pretending to be dead

so that the enemy would stop shooting at

him and he doesn't care if they're

sending people after him

his eyes are open they are but people

die that way

but then when i rewatched it i i think

the implication is supposed to be that

he's just freaked out by

seeing a dead person up close but i'm

not 100 sure on that

i feel like if you were faking it that

when you got up after they successfully

set off the bangalore

someone would shoot you from your own

team for faking it yeah well that's what

the sarge did

not yeah was it the sergeant at the

beginning yeah

that's exactly what's happening here is

that while he's looking at this guy he's

trying to decide if he's going to move

again because he's like paralyzed by

this fear

and then griff starts shooting in a big

circle around him and i'm pretty

confident at this point

that if he hadn't if he hadn't worked it

out that

sarge would have actually hit him maybe

in like

you know an arm first to be like hey

these are real bullets you know i don't

have blanks for intimidating you

but griff eventually gets the whole tnt

tube well not the whole thing

he drops about half of it behind him as

he's moving but for some reason you

don't need all of it

i don't understand this weapon i don't

get how it works i don't either

it's a tube full of tnt and somehow this

is gonna blow

a hole in the barbed wire correct and it

does

like how does a really long tube of tnt

make a difference just throw a whole

goddamn leg just throw a stick or just

throw a bunch of sticks of dynamite in

there like

throw a bunch of grenades in there of

dynamite

yeah it's weird i'm assuming that they

did their research as far as how this no

i think that it's a real thing but even

zab there says no it's

like to meet the guy who came up with

this piece of [ __ ] it's a real thing

because they use them in saving private

ryan yeah

but uh i don't know exactly

why what the benefit would be yeah like

why couldn't like like you guys were

saying just like

bundle a tnt with a wire uh maybe the

tube protects

i'm wondering if the tube is just the to

keep it from blowing up from enemy fire

correct and and and the tube is actually

concealing the

the the wiring that you need like so you

so every time you assemble a tube you're

connecting a piece of the wiring

right or maybe you're just detonating at

like a longer distance

because you need it to get further away

from you like

if this if this let's say you know wall

of barbed wire is

you know 10 feet wide you need you need

to cover that whole wall with a hole

but the purp yeah i mean the purpose is

to just completely obliterate whatever

is around there so they would have

a place for their tanks and other

vehicles to to come up on shore

yeah so this whole scene is is done in

private ryan right like the opening of

private ryan is this whole battle scene

and it's definitely better in that movie

not just because of the budget but

i feel like there's too many moments

here where the camera is locked

down where you don't it doesn't feel

like a real situation it feels like

a reenactment because that's what it is

but in saving private ryan

like every shot is handheld every shot

is pov every shot

there's 30 people in it screaming at

each other because they don't know

what's going on

people are just getting shot constantly

and it just feels

i mean i don't know that it was more

realistic but i mean from what i

understand from the reviews of people

who were there who saw that scene

that it was like exactly how it went

down it captures the chaos of being

there

yeah but uh just as he's getting the the

bangalore underneath the barbed wire we

get a taste of the soundtrack

that felt like uh willy wonka's pure

imagination to me

[Music]

[Music]

but then they blow the hole and the wire

opens up and

they radio in that they have they have

their exit on the beach they have a way

to get through now we see the wristwatch

again

and now the blood red tide uh is washing

over the hand and we see that it's 9 15

which is nearly three hours after

they hit the beach it seems like

that would be equally dangerous though

to be like

hey we only have one way to funnel

through this beach so let's shove

everybody through this one

place where they can still just with all

this artillery just

focus on this one hole we just made yeah

i also feel like

if it was so dangerous to sneak up there

with one piece of the bangalore mine

then why is it safe for all of us to

just get out right now and walk up to

this hole in the gate it's not

like there's still people shooting at

all of us we just basically cut to a

break in the next city

where zab is playing some basketball

when he notices a soldier named

kaiser reading the dark deadline he

moves in creepily close before asking

what the man thinks of his book

and kaiser says it's damn good and zab

says you know my mother sent that to me

for my birthday

and he tells kaiser that he wrote it and

then kaiser jokes in response that he

printed it

here we get a really weird scene a bunch

of germans

in the same field where sarge murdered

the hun after world war one

are arranging themselves to appear dead

draped over a tank as a trap

this feels like something you would do

if there were a platoon coming that

vastly outnumbered you yeah you needed

like a last-minute plan

but there's way more of these guys than

there are in the team

coming to get them i don't think there

were though

i think that there were only a handful

of german

soldiers there but a large portion of

them

were already dead you're saying they

were real dead people there was a lot of

real dead people there and there was

only a handful of guys that were left

and so i think their strategy was to be

to to play dead to get the drop on them

yeah i

i know that at least the guy they draped

over the top of the tank was dead i

think a bunch more in the field were

also dead

because that's the whole way that they

discovered is the different uniforms

right uh there were there was enough of

them and they had a tank

that was clearly functional because like

the gun works on the side of it

yeah if you just let the americans get

closer and then start firing on them

you win i don't know what their plan was

here maybe they didn't know how many

people were coming

i guess but also as far as the story of

this movie is what was the purpose of

having it occur

back at this location yeah there was no

significance to it because the

significant scene that happens happens

at the end of the movie completely

somewhere else

yeah um it seems like this this should

have been the scene that was in the end

of the movie yeah this would be the

first one-hour long war movie

the men find a monument to the lives

lost in world war one

and they mistake it for this war because

they recognize so many names

but when they say the names are the same

sarge says

they always are kaiser is sent ahead to

inspect the scene

and all the dead germans in his trap one

german is watching from high up on the

crucifix and radioing

to the men on the ground and kaiser

observes

the germans playing possum and totally

buys it but it's not really his fault

because

you know he calls the rest of the man

over and they all buy it too

that's why they had like bananas because

you just start stabbing bodies as you're

going through the field

yeah uh there there's a a really great

scene in

uh fury where they're in the tank and

uh the one guy won't fire the gun he's

like those guys are already dead it's

like

uh because what are you a doctor keep

firing yeah

the germans wait way too long to take

any kind of action in the tank sarge

notices that

they have different collars so they're

probably not from the same group they

were infantry mixed in with the people

running the tank

he covers their mouths to stab them one

at a time

and so the we get this little hint that

each of them is alive as they're like

holding their breath or trying to

struggle at the last second

but not enough to signal to the other

guys in the tank with them that

they've just been killed he radios to

announce their situation to the

lieutenant

and uh he's using some some code he says

that

he's sergeant possum which i guess is

i don't know if that's specific code for

i'm in the middle of a bunch of people

pretending to be dead

because possum would make sense like is

this is that is that a standard thing

that i don't know if it's a standard

thing but i think it was but he says oh

you're in an ambush

so it's something like that yeah like

the guy knew exactly

what he meant um but he says hey so

you're kind of on your own though

because we're really busy so

your call is important to us please stay

on the line

higher than normal call volume yeah

we are currently experiencing as they're

leaving kaiser notices a live soldier

moving on the ground and i can't tell

who shoots first

if kaiser shoots at them or if the

germans try to take advantage of them

no kaiser okay because he does turn

around to name his gun but i think the

i couldn't tell if the guy on the ground

actually shot at him first or not oh i

don't think so i think it's kaiser's

fault for sure that

because they they seemed like they were

getting away with it because

they use the excuse they very loudly say

hey we we have to bring them over the

hill we have to bring the rest of the

troops over here

so we have to lead them over here

because they don't know where we are and

so they were

sort of baiting them to say hey we're

going to bring you more targets

you know what stay where you are let's

go dig up all of that beer and bury it

here this looks much

softer probably a better place for it

good thing we got all that nazi gold we

stole

yeah we'll hide it here in the with this

cross we'll tell the president he can

come over the hill in just a moment

so they all start shooting back and

forth someone jumps into the tank

and makes fast work of the leftover

germans because like you said

this is a functional tank with a lot of

ammunition in it

and uh he just takes out everybody else

on the field while the americans are

basically hiding behind the tank

only kaiser is hit in this scene of

course and they patch him up real quick

they don't take out the guy behind the

cross though no they don't

they leave him up there for the whole

scene it's very weird and

it doesn't come back no he never he

never shows them

discovering him or him dying or anything

maybe it's in the 47 minutes of other

footage

yeah i think he was just embarrassed

about what happened he's like well i

forgot to tell them to kill the

americans this is

kind of my fault when i said play dead

you're all method well he didn't he did

like you know reprimand them is like if

you move i'll shoot you

so he he made them wait

through this whole thing maybe his plan

was always like these guys seem pretty

cool

i'm gonna let them kill my friends um

then i'll be friends with them this

thing is covered in ants

oh my god

a man on a motorcycle with a sidecar

comes racing up to them and just

flips over the handlebar when he stops

it seems like he's dying but nobody

cares

a woman is about to give birth in his

sidecar and he came to them for help

they bring her into the tank which

i guess it's safer in there than in the

field because there were

germans but germ germans

yeah go stay away from the germs i think

it's just protecting them in a

potentially

you know dangerous war zone yeah okay

get into this tank with all these

corpses

no he said move the bodies and then put

her in there yeah

there's more bodies outside the tank to

be fair there's billions if you count

all of them

every person who has ever lived or died

is outside of this tank

they bring her into the tank and they

tie her legs up in the air with the

bands of bullets that are strung from

the ceiling

i did like the moment though where he's

like turn the bullets around like she

feels threatened by the fact that the

bullets are pointed at her

if i didn't speak english though and a

bunch of soldiers brought me into a tank

and strung me up and pulled out a

fat stack of condoms i would be very

worried

but they're using them as an

approximation of rubber gloves that

would not work that doesn't help at all

yeah it's like this is perfect because

they're covered in sperm

you just have like these falcon hands

deliver babies with just your fingertips

you look like one of those crab people

from the circus

johnson is assisting the birth because

he should do something in this movie

but uh he's just like pushing on her

belly like

that's how you get it out right yeah

like it's a play-doh extruder and the

baby's just gonna come out

weird star shape it's like the

pop-o-matic bubble in trouble yeah give

it a little pop and that baby shoots

right out

he asks sarge how to say push in french

and he says pousse

and he says [ __ ]

and sarge is like why don't i say that

word because you're not very good at it

but he starts to repeat it for the woman

in this weird like sensual voice

and uh the baby is born safely hooray

belgium 1944.

i i like that they're like force gumping

them their way around like

world war ii but it's weird because he

actually was involved in all of these

theaters

like fuller was yeah um but yeah it is

just like

wow you you hit everything i think

that's the point of the fact that

there's a big red one they're the

first guys they send them in everywhere

they need them to

go ahead of the troops they approach a

monastery

which is really an asylum for uh what

lee marvin calls retards and insane

people

there's a woman there named walloon who

is a fighter

and she has a plan to kill all the

crowds silently to avoid any casualties

but the men are like just bomb the place

we don't have time for this just bomb

the place

and lee marvin says killing insane

people is not good for public relations

and griff says killing sane people is

okay he's like

exactly you get it that's right in the

asylum a woman in a pink dress

presumably walloon

is dancing around with a baby doll

another inmate is army crawling through

the courtyard

a german guard is just drinking and

lazily groping at walloon as she dances

by

see now we're definitely in the ninth

configuration yes

for sure complete with the nazi uniforms

i don't think any of these guys are

faking it though to get out of war

at least one might be yeah outside

another german guard is sleeping against

a tree until he is stabbed by sarge

somehow walloon sees this from inside

the building but no one else notices

or they at least cut to a reaction shot

like she has a direct line of sight on

him doing that

but i don't think there's any way she

saw what was happening from inside this

building

she pulls a knife out of this baby doll

and does her crazy dance around the

asylum as she sneaks up on guards and

slits all their throats

while recklessly singing the americans

are coming

the americans are coming out loud

[Music]

with everyone else on the ground floor

dead she

escorts sarge and a couple other guys

to two men that are up in the tower but

there's still many more in the cafeteria

so they kill the tower men and then in

the cafeteria one side of the room is

german soldiers and the other side is

all patience eating

walloon dances across the officers table

to distract them but unfortunately a

second group of germans show up just

behind the americans

as they're coming into the room and a

firefight breaks out

lots of shots are getting fired griff

covers walloon under

a table patients are just trying to eat

their food while things are exploding

around them

and then the army crawler guy finds a

gun and shouts

i am one of you i am sane i am sane as

he's firing blindly around the room

killing patients and germans and

americans and

he's just shooting everybody because

he's not especially sane

but i think the argument is that none of

these people are really that sane

because they're all shooting at each

other

we cut suddenly to downtime in the woods

zab gets a letter from home that his

mother has sold the dark deadline book

to hollywood for fifteen thousand

dollars and they're making a movie with

humphrey bogart and edward g robinson

they ask what he's gonna do with the

money and he switches to an accident for

one word of the entire film and he says

well feist i think i'm gonna blow a

thousand bucks on a squad party

he asks what the craziest thing they

want to do with a girl is and kaiser

takes the lead here

and he says i want to make a girl put

her bare ass on a frozen window

and then he's like why what are you

gonna do with a frozen ass and he said

thawed out it may take a little time and

they're all just laughing hysterically

at this

i don't get the joke there's not a joke

to it that's just what he wants to do

okay he wants to [ __ ] a girl in the ass

a cold ass

okay it honestly feels like a line that

they should have given to johnson since

he has almost nothing to do in this

movie besides deliver a baby

and he did that suddenly they're under

fire and they move quickly out of the

woods

they get separated and sarge calls to

them one at a time and everyone answers

oh except for kaiser who says i'm hit it

almost doesn't sound like him

and we thought at first that this might

be a trap oh i definitely thought it

didn't sound like him at all

but sarge finds him dying next to a dead

german like upside down in a tree i

don't know if he

like hit him with a grenade or something

and he threw him up into the tree

but he says did i kill the guy that

killed me and then sarge says yes

and he dies not sarge the other guy

kaiser dies

we get another quick scene with tanks

bearing down on the men in snow

which must be longer in the extended cut

because there's nothing to it here

yeah and suddenly it's supposed to be

the battle of the bulge i guess right

because that's not like a famous battle

or anything yeah it's like skipped

through this one because they talked

about like the germans pushed back and

it would have been in winter we're

suddenly at zab's squad party spending

his movie money

which is cut short when orders come down

that they are headed to a place called

falca now

these are all real missions that the

director took part in even the falcao

now part

fuller even recorded 16 millimeter

footage of the actual liberation of

falca now

a czechoslovakian concentration camp

that was selected in 2014 for the

national film registry

the americans stormed the camp and after

taking out all the guards

the four horsemen kick open the doors to

the camp and find

inmates hiding in the dark griff follows

one last guard further into the camp

to a row of ovens and he opens the first

one and finds just

bones of burned prisoners and he can

barely bring himself to open a second

oven

where he finds the german hiding and the

german fires on him repeatedly

but either the gun is jammed or he's out

of bullets but uh in a trance

griff raises his rifle and fires a shot

at the soldier

and just keeps firing over and over

he shoots 18 times before sarge finds

him and gives him another clip to keep

shooting

yeah even though he says i think he got

him

and then he fires another like four

shots into the guy

i mean i think sarge understands here

that this is sort of therapeutic his

therapy

and sort of getting him over that that

hope of being

uh i don't know afraid to act

like hey you've now seen the horror

of what we're fighting against yeah it's

hard to argue against when you just

do this now yeah but it's also like

there is no better argument for shooting

a person than

finding him hiding in the bones of

innocent people

shooting at you that he has previously

just been

shoveling into ovens yeah sarge finds a

young boy in the camp that appears to be

starving

he here he's unable to convince the boy

to eat

so he takes the kid on a picnic i guess

and

the kid actually eats an apple while

they're sitting there by a tree

but it's a bit like the scene in

groundhog day where phil connors is just

dumping soup down the homeless guy's

throat

because it seems like they just got

there too late he

tries to carry the kid on his back back

to the camp and

he just passes away on his shoulders um

probably from prolonged malnutrition and

starvation

and uh the voiceover says he walked

around for a half an hour before he

could bring himself to put the kid down

he gives him a proper burial in the

woods which i'm not sure if that's a

proper burial i mean

if you're underground but wouldn't a

proper burial be like a headstone in a

cemetery and

yeah but well more proper than an oven

yeah that's true

the german from earlier reciting in

german as the hunt who started the film

that the war is over

schroeder comes out of the woods and

still not susceptible to the lion

sarge knifes the guy and the boys show

up to tell him that the war's been over

for exactly four hours same as in the

beginning

and we get the same exchange with griff

you didn't know it was over

he didn't griff notices that the german

is still alive and they rush in to save

him

maybe that hunt from the beginning was

still alive too we'll never know

nobody checked up on him and then lee

marvin says

you're gonna live you son of a [ __ ]

you're gonna live if i have to blow your

brains

out and we gotta you gotta you gotta

stand trial at your war criminal

yeah hearing we end the film with zab

voice over saying that he is dedicating

this book to those who shot but didn't

get shot

because survival is the only glory in

war which really just means i dedicate

this book to myself

yeah because i never got shot some

people

it's it's so uh off topic but i wanted

to bring up a quote

from the monarch from venture brothers

yeah when when asked why he's always

using henchman's 21

and 24 he says i know it's crazy but

they have this rare blend of

survivability and expendability that

makes them perfect henchmen

and that's how i feel about these these

guys four guys they're just like well

throw them at any problem

for some reason they'll walk out with no

scratches yeah

um writer director samuel fuller he has

writing credits dating back to 1934

obviously meryl's marauders he also

wrote targets for peter bogdanovich

that's the

have you seen targets i have not i know

of it yeah it's good it's got um what's

his name uh

frankenstein in it and uh peter boyle or

no further back boris karloff there you

go boris karloff

as a non-frankenstein character but it's

good this was the first thing he

directed since a 1969 movie called shark

starring burt reynolds but he after this

would go on to direct white dog

and a documentary called falca now the

impossible about the concentration camp

that he helped liberate

cinematographer adam greenberg here he's

been a dp since the early 60s

here's a sampling of his fascinating

filmography terminator

once bitten iron eagle near dark three

men and a baby

alien nation turner and hooch ghost

three men and a little lady

t2 sister act toys sphere

rush hour snakes on a plane so he's

worked on a lot of

different movies i'm gonna say i like

him yeah yeah

uh lee marvin was the sergeant just

credited as the sergeant

uh probably best known for dirty dozen

or paint your wagon

he's also in peach wagon yeah

we're gonna paint your wagon

he was also in the man who shot liberty

valance from the same author as

a man called horse which we reviewed

earlier this year

emperor of the north i got it on here

gonna bring up everything i know you

love emperor of the north

that was uh just be clear that was a

patreon episode

so okay i just want to make sure people

are like i didn't hear that episode

if you missed that it's your own fault

uh

he was also in cat blue from the

director of a man called horse

but yes emperor of the north you said

it's it's what him and ernest borgnine

and it's about

like depression era train yeah

peppers lee marvin is

is uh the best hobo he's a number one

uh and is it really a full ranking

system for hobos

yes it's true uh how did they keep track

before the internet and ernest borgnine

is the most notorious

bull who like you never ride his train

because he's so brutal to anybody he

finds

and so this is like his last big hurrah

is that he's going to ride this guy's

train

that's awesome i still need to see it

mark hamill was private griff for squad

uh he provides a voice in call of duty 2

big red one

uh like the film the game follows the

exploits of a squad from the big red one

from north africa to eastern europe

and he's also the voice of the joker on

the animated batman series and of course

he plays han solo and star trek lots of

stuff

he plays gandalf and star trek yeah

patrick really likes angry reviews

uh robert carradine was private zab for

squad

uh he's lewis i think louis skolnick is

that the last name

in revenge of the nerds it just said

lewis on imdb but i'm pretty sure it's

louis skelnick

he's also lizzie mcguire's dad we

mentioned this before because he's the

youngest carradine and the long riders

from earlier this year he's the brother

of david and keith

carradine uh and son of uh john

carradine

right yeah junker uh who was in the film

deleted scene or something right

yeah yeah bobby did chico was private

vincey first class

first squad sorry whatever that means

jim parker in philadelphia experiment uh

he was also wally stevens in 1941

yeah which is like what i recognized him

from immediately yeah

he he's he's his building is way down on

that movie but

because there's so many other famous

people in it but he's essentially the

main character and he has a first and

last name so he's

got to be important he's also in

ghoulies4 which is direct to video

i didn't know there was a four i didn't

know those before i stopped and started

with three because that's the best one

is it the one with murdoch no that's the

college one okay

murdock is in one of the first two i

want to say the second one

whichever one that had murdoch on it is

the best

comes out of the grave as a skeleton

screaming

and then gets his flesh and applied to

him slowly flushes up

bobby dico was also most recently in a

movie called an interview with god

which is a faith-based film we've

mentioned before on this show because it

was directed by an actor we've seen this

year

who also appears in this movie probably

not a coincidence

uh kelly ward was private johnson first

class first squad

do i need to put the dings and the

buzzes again

he plays putzy in greece and he's moved

largely into voice acting since then

starting with some appearances on gobots

and then a lot on the production side he

does uh

casting uh dialogue direction and

a few voices here and there but he's

worked mostly for disney

almost exclusively disney stuff for a

while now stephane

audran played walloon she was babette

and babette's feast

she was alice senechal in discrete charm

of the bourgeoisie

and she just appeared in that netflix

orson welles movie other side of the

wind that like

got re-put together and released on

netflix

siegfried roush played sergeant

schroeder

and he's also captain steiger and patton

ken

campbell was private lem check uh number

two on the bangalore torpedo

he did some gobots voices also uh like

kelly ward above

and he looks a lot like mark metcalf to

me and it threw me off for a while

because i was like

what did we just see this guy in and i

looked it up and it's like this and

gobots and i was like

i don't i don't watch gobots so i don't

know perry lang was private kaiser first

squad we had him as paul

in the hearse and we had him has kelly

in alligator

also in 1941 with vinci actor bobby dico

and he directed an interview with god

did he really

yeah oh my gosh this is an interesting

film i think because it's short the

pacing is actually pretty good

yeah but i honestly feel like there's

there's weird

like just cut at the end of a scene

where it's like wait there was more

to cover there but i also feel like

all four of these guys don't really get

their own moment to shine

i mean the closest thing johnson gets is

delivering a baby i don't think vinci

does

anything i mean he steals a bunch of

money from a box that he found

but other than that he's just here to

translate italian

the only two characters that really got

a lot to do were zab and

griff and all zab really did was narrate

yeah uh which which i could have done

without like

really he just wrote a book and so as

you were saying griff is the only one

who really kind of goes through any kind

of

change or has is a different person from

when he started

right i was wondering if they were going

to try to explain away his

the scars again in this one oh yeah he

still has some of that

the scarring from that the car accident

i kind of wish it had ended differently

i was kind of feeling like as we were

approaching the end

i figured there was going to be a call

back to how we began the film

but i kind of figured it was sort of

going to be that passing of the torch

where it happened to somebody else and

lee marvin was going to be like

look it happens it's okay like you

didn't know

and it's like and he knew and then he

knew so so it was sort of like

the same response that he got he was

then passing on to this

next generation as the words of wisdom

what if what if we're instead we're like

we're paying it backward

and he's sitting with the guys and they

all find out that the war is over and he

goes off

on his own to take a piss and the german

guy comes to stab and he's like the

war's over the war's over and the german

guy stabs him and he dies

in the woods yeah i'm like i feel like

either way

it could have had more impact than just

sort of repeating the same scene again

but

but trying to save the soldier after the

act rather than letting him die

yeah but um i think it's enjoyable i

think i would give this a thumbs up

i give it a thumbs up which i thought

was you know i was really

dreading going into this because i hate

watching more horror movies and i really

would never

do it unless i had to and i had to and i

liked it

i can't think of another one that's less

than two hours even though real

yeah i'd have to give it some thought

i think even three kings is more than

two hours yeah

i mean i could like grasp it straws and

kind of like

pull up like maybe heroes of telemark or

uh but that's

that's a fake war movie right like is it

actually a real war

or does it no what about that one uh

what starring eli roth in the tower that

within

inglorious bastards oh yeah well do they

ever say the run time of that movie

uh because no because here was a

telemark it's a world war two movie but

it's a fictional account right it's like

the guns of navarone

yes it's not that didn't really happen

that didn't happen it's just a movie

about

world war ii that took place during

world war two interesting

and three kings is just a hair under two

hours for the record

is it it's a 114 minutes oh okay

interesting like a bridge too far super

long that was the double cassette well i

also give this movie a thumbs up

i wouldn't say that i'm in love with it

um but it was enjoyable

it had a lot of like interesting things

that they brought up that i

i because i want to mention forrest gump

uh it's kind of being serious because

like they're moving through so many

different things so quickly

it's like oh the battle of bulge and

it's like oh yeah that's a buzz bomb

it's like oh yeah

okay like they're just bringing up stuff

because like especially the buzz bombs

like that was

more towards the end of world war ii

because like this was like germany was

lashing out

yeah you know the v1 and the v2 uh

rockets were their last ditch efforts

and so there's a lot of cool things that

are happening in it and we've already

discussed that this applause is like i

don't know

who this movie is about yeah and it

seems like a lot of characters get

like short-handed yeah really get much

to do

i i think it almost could have been more

interesting to take this movie

and have it be about the four soldiers

who they met

and didn't learn didn't want to learn

their names have it be about them

but then always have these four guys

surviving in the background like

they're the ones who keep surviving but

the main characters keep dying

yeah well they do kind of the same thing

and saving private ryan

and the hurt locker too yeah yeah where

does this go on your list jess

uh it's pretty high actually uh i never

thought i'd

i'd say that for a horror movie but um

right now it's going oh gosh

it's so it's so hard to compare some of

these things like right now i'm debating

how i feel about this versus blue lagoon

i i am in that exact spot i was like

i don't know i think i'm gonna put it

above blue lagoon and below the long

riders and as much as i love blue lagoon

i think this was probably a better movie

yeah just better film making um but yeah

below

below the long riders and above blue

lagoon would put in 13th place for the

year so far

that's not bad uh richard what are we

thinking

um i am also putting it up off blue

lagoon but my blue looking is much lower

um so this is going to be between uh

it's going to be below stunt man but

above blue lagoon

was it in 24th place okay

um i'm putting it a little bit lower

it's actually in 32nd place for me

but it's also below the long riders

um and above urban cowboy for me how's

it compared to blue lagoon

let's see where's blue lagoon on my list

right now

uh blue lagoon is 21. okay on my list

i think that's about it for this one uh

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when we'll be discussing chichen chang's

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which imdb describes like so

the two stoners and their friends go

through another series of crazy

drug influenced misadventures we leave

you now with the trailer

for cheech and chong's next

yeah yeah right there movie let's try

mexican americans don't like to just get

into gang fights they like flowers and

music

and white girls named baby too

in the tradition of the great comedy

teams war and pestilence

are you ready for the end of time death

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responsibility is every responsibility

man bad breath

then body odor

they walk they talk and now

they make number two i got nowhere to go

go see a movie or something

chichen chang's next movie all right

this is the tape

it's the market that spits when it sings

the film that never changes its

underwear

the film that leaves a stain on the

theater screen

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you gotta have your stuff all together

man you gotta have your attitude and

your whole trip down man you know

everybody throws their bad looks at you

you know

is it a love story

okay for free then is it a thriller

jacob you won't break them is it a

musical

for the answers to these and other

fundamental questions

he is that way see cheech and chong's

next movie come on let's go man this

looks like good fun

because at a time like this what

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