we're on a mission from god

wendy so i got that going darling

looks like i picked the wrong way to

quit sniffing blue light

of my life we enjoy your films

i thought they smelled bad on the

outside

[Music]

welcome to vintage video where we're

re-watching the 80s so you don't have to

we'll be reviewing every major film

release of the 1980s in real time

over analyzing what you've seen and

spoiling what you haven't i'm patrick

o'reilly i'm jesse bayless and i'm

richard wells and today marks the 40th

anniversary of the release of caddyshack

on july 25th 1980 it was written by

brian doyle murray

harold ramus douglas kenny directed by

harold ramos

and released by warner brothers the

story of the film was inspired by brian

doyle murray's childhood experiences as

a caddy at the

indian hill club in winnetka illinois

danny's family is based on brian doyle's

with eight siblings

two of which make appearances in the

film i thought it was weird that there

were so many

siblings yeah it doesn't feel like it

comes into play at all aside from the

fact that maybe they're just too poor

i think it's just to show that they're a

poor irish family that's all okay

brothers bill and john as well as

director harold ramos had also worked

as caddies as teenagers the film was

shot over 11 weeks

temporarily delayed by hurricane david

the set was rather infamously rife with

cocaine use

where was it shot i would imagine that

it was not shot

in an area like winnetka illinois if a

hurricane was a problem

right no i think it was shot in florida

but i don't know where in florida

well my research on hurricane david

shows that it came up through the

caribbean

hit florida and then went up even

through uh

the entire 13 colonies can you tell us

where it's at now

caddyshack was filmed at rolling hills

in

davie florida okay davey hit by david in

davey oh

i don't know davey harold ramus intended

to cast a live animal as the gopher but

animatronics and puppets won out

ramus would later get his way in

groundhog day the first cut of the film

came to about four and a half hours

bill murray's ball mashing speech lasted

a full half hour

what uh two hours kidding no two hours

were cut from this pass

which demolished the original through

line following danny and maggie's

relationship

it was replaced with comedic relief

gopher footage

to make the film feel less like a bunch

of unconnected vignettes

harold ramos was it didn't work yeah but

it still felt like a bunch of

unconnected vignettes yes it did

uh harold ramos was notoriously

disappointed with how the film turned

out

but one complaint he had was that nobody

besides danny knew how to properly swing

a golf club

kenny loggins i'm all right was composed

for the film and reached the top 10 of

the us singles chart

don rickles was originally cast as the

al cervic roll

that went to rodney dangerfield i could

see that yeah i could i can actually see

john rickles chewing his teeth on this

all right here's strike one for me i

think that would have been better

mickey rourke was considered for the

danny noonan roll

[Laughter]

he's a good deal older yeah and it's

also a completely different

person yeah bill murray was actually

brought on late

to replace an unnamed actor who could

not act or recall his lines

as the groundskeeper the character was

originally intended to be a

shell-shocked war veteran

but ended up a combination of a

character that murray had workshopped at

second city

and an impersonation of the actor that

he replaced

[Laughter]

and also seemed mostly improved yes and

it was 100

improv so nothing was written for

remembering lines that came became a

moot point

yeah they shot all of his stuff in six

days and uh

he was working without a script which i

think is why

this is my least favorite bill murray

performance ever

yeah i'm actually not terribly fond of

his character in this movie especially

because

it's super easy to impersonate and so

people do it all the time and they think

look i'm as funny as bill murray and

it's like

no no that's like his worst character

yeah that's him not being funny yeah

this is the final film of sarah halcombe

and ted knight

it was followed by a sequel that is

widely regarded as one of the worst

sequels of all time

oh man you put it on like after this one

yeah i

could not watch it it was rough yeah

jackie mason just trying to be rodney

dangerfield

is very great kind of i feel like

i feel like randy quaid is more like

trying to be ronnie dangerfield well

he's yeah he's filling that role of the

guy that yeah

throwing his money around um although i

do like

robert stack and uh the interaction

between robert stack and dan aykroyd

yeah but dan aykroyd doing an impression

of bill murray's character is

frustrating too

and and with a really high-pitched voice

for some reason and those characters

were in a deleted scene from

ghostbusters like the carl spackler

groundskeeper character really yeah

there's just a scene where they play

dual roles like they're

they're supposed to just be hobos in

times square but i disagree on the other

thing

i think that a good karate guy is always

going to top

a heavyweight boxer oh no no you take

any martial artist black belt i don't

care how good he is what degree

you put him in a ring with a power

puncher like chuck webner

what they would devastate him every time

okay i agree with that but i think that

shanghai

hong kong and kowloon are going to be

your three big travel bargains this year

interesting it's it's not funny and i

see why it was taken out

it will it kind of reminds me of uh the

dukes in coming to america yes where

donnamichi and ralph bellamy

play themselves as the dukes but

homeless out on the street

yeah the dukes from what from trading

places

we open with our second consecutive

orion logo

the earthling wasn't originally an orion

picture but it currently has the logo in

front of it on amazon prime

and it starts with an mgm and orion logo

now

next under the opening titles we see a

gopher puppet burrowing a trail through

a golf course in the pre-dawn light

before pausing to dance to the base rift

that kicks off kenny loggins

i'm all right i think the puppet was the

right choice

i know that harold ramis didn't want

that yeah but i think it needed to be

that silly and ridiculous i don't know

if it would have been in as much of the

movie if it was the live-action one i

think it would have been more like

the groundhog in groundhog day where

it's in a couple shots

but for the most part you don't see it

you just see the damage and it's not

comic relief unless it's the puppet

right and i don't think he wanted it to

be and and doug kenny

did not want that in the movie at all he

didn't want any shots that focus on the

gopher

see and i love like the the underground

macro shots

like where it's like it must be in like

an oversized puppet version of puppet

puff it um but when people are like

reaching down the hole when you're

seeing stuff coming down that hole it's

so

the whatever lens they're using on that

camera to make it seem like it's so much

larger

well they also everything that they shot

that's like underground or the stuff

inside the caves

shot after the film in like a sound

stage with a really nice camera because

it was a controlled atmosphere

right right so everything looks much

better because it was shot on like nicer

film stock

even yeah i mean i think that because i

think this movie would not have been as

memorable if they had done the

live-action gopher because i think it

wouldn't have been

as as ridiculous cartoony over the top

yeah

and i think it's hard to separate that

song with the gopher dancing

right and so if that song's playing on

the radio constantly you're constantly

thinking about that gopher and it's

calling that movie to mind in your head

right plus the sounds of the gopher of

the dolphin

but as the gopher is dancing here we get

the caddyshack logo flying into frame

uh printed on a golf ball and then

freezing in the middle of

just in midair which reminds me of the

uh

the happy madison logo yes wow i think

that's intentional

yeah but that's a golf ball freezing

because it hit the camera and broke

through the screen

uh next we cut to the noonan household

mom is climbing the stairs attempting to

wake any stragglers in their bountiful

brood

uh it looks like if the mcallisters were

living on food stamps

it's just a bunch of kids crisscrossing

through the house

father noonan asks a boy at their dining

table

who he even is before his wife explains

that's your nephew what are we running a

restaurant

danny fills his father in on his catty

schedule today

and his dad tells him to put the money

into his college fund jar

his parents urge him to pursue a

scholarship and

after he leaves his father says that

he'll find danny work at the lumber yard

where he works

which is not what danny wants not

coincidentally

brian doyle murray's father also worked

at a lumberyard danny rides a bike to

the bushwood country club

on the green danny is a caddy for ty

webb played by

chevy chase i'm assuming this is a the

name is a reference to ty

cobb but he's not like tycho

at all at all like tyco but i think cobb

webb

is not unintentional danny asks ty

if he ever had any trouble deciding what

to do with his life and ty

does not relate at all he asks danny if

he takes drugs

you take drugs danny every day good

danny explains that college costs 8 000

a year and that he's gonna end up

working in the lumber yard like his dad

and ty tells danny a secret that there's

a force in the universe that will

silently guide you if you let it let

things happen

and be the ball to demonstrate he wraps

a blindfold over his eyes

and reaches for a club blindly yanking

them all up at once and scattering them

across the crest yeah

this kid is really trying hard to keep

it together

for a lot of these scenes because i'm

sure chubby chase is just hamming it up

all the scenes with danny and ty make me

a little bit uncomfortable

because they're giving all the punch

lines to danny

and i you can tell that it bothers chevy

yeah this kid is getting all the punch

lines like he says a joke like oh do you

do drugs and he's like oh every day and

he's like okay good

like that that was the joke but it's the

kid getting to say the joke

and then did you have to take that

cooter preference test when you were a

senior in high school

oh yeah i took it they said i should be

a fire watcher

what are you supposed to be an

underachiever and it's like why are you

giving all the punch lines to this kid

that we've never seen before

well because i thought well because i've

seen this movie a couple of times

yeah but uh i was watching it with my

father and my niece who had never seen

it yeah

because i thought no you know candy

shack it's a a known a known movie

that that she should see arguably she

will say that

no i i think it's worth seeing we had a

problem focusing on who the main

character of this movie is

yeah and i think it's supposed to be

danny oh it was

in the first draft it was definitely

danny i would say where do you think it

is now

i think it's smails actually hmm but but

he's

it's hard to say that he is the bad guy

but he he gets more to do than anybody

else does

but danny but danny does go through a

change that's true

yeah i think danny is definitely the

main character yeah

but we don't spend enough we spent so

not that i wanted

any more well i but i i did but

but we spend so much other time with

ronnie dangerfield smails

and carl and ty yeah away from danny

yeah

he's not because you cut you know half

of the movie out that had more scenes

with him in it

well that's what happens when you cast

like five world famous comedians it's

like no you have to give them all screen

time

you have to give them a lot of screen

time each you can't just

you can't just leave it become the most

interesting part of the movie yeah

that's a problem

once he gets his hands on the wedge

though ty is able to pop the ball

over a water hazard and within three

feet of the hole blindfolded

danny is genuinely impressed and ty

tells him to give it a shot when danny

asks for silence to concentrate

tai instead speaks about how much he

isn't speaking i'm not talking

stop talking not talking now

danny misses by a lot on the way into

work smail sees the gopher ruining a

hole before pulling the flag down into

it

he shouts for the greenskeeper to take

care of it

and he blames the cervic construction

yard next door

for driving all of these gophers under

their golf course

the assistant green's keeper carl

spakler watches a group of four older

women

while lucifiously pumping a ball cleaner

as though he were masturbating to the

scene

oh mrs crane you're a little monkey

woman you know that you're a little

monkey woman you're lean

and you're mean and you're not too far

between either i bet are you huh

the greenskeeper pulls him aside and

gives him a mission i want you to kill

every gopher on the course check me if

i'm wrong sandy but if i kill all the

golfers

they're going to lock me up and throw

away the key go first

we could do that we don't even need a

reason yeah

yeah all right let's do the same thing

but with gophers

inside the titular caddyshack the

manager lou

is fielding a lot of calls he steps out

for a moment and asks danny to take over

for him in the cage

carl corners another caddy with a

pitchfork

and tells him the story of a time he

carried for the dalai lama

uh the actor's discomfort here is

genuine because the scene was fully

improvised and murray repeatedly poked a

non-fake pitchfork into his neck and

throat oh god

uh his story culminates with the dalai

lama or

dalai lama as he calls him yeah the

story culminates with the dalai lama

stiffing him on the tip

but offering in its place total

consciousness on his deathbed

you will receive total consciousness

so i got that going for you which is

nice

we see the tail end of another caddy

tony's experience

with an elderly couple called the haver

camps they are incapable of following

the rules of the game or even connecting

with the ball on the tee in front of

them

they were based on a real couple that

brian doyle caddied for

regularly who could not knock the ball

out of their own shadows

like he has the one the club is like

you're gonna need this

yeah she walks she's just walking away

and then she hits it into the lake and

she's like woohoo

doesn't doesn't remember what she's

supposed to be doing uh when tony gets

back to the shack

he wants his pay but danny can't give it

because lou's out

so then he decides he wants a coke and

danny explains how the prices have gone

up

and the two do a little verbal sparring

at the window

to this locked cage room until lou comes

back and sets danny free

and danny doesn't want to be free right

now he's like ow

sure you don't need me for nothing no

they move outside for a proper fight and

in the ensuing chaos a gumball machine

is knocked to the floor and shattered

lou comes out and tells them a couple

things first that they're all on the

shortlist to get fired for their

terrible work ethics

they can easily be replaced by golf

carts and

two that the golf scholarship that had

previously been won by a co-worker is

now up for grabs again after his

untimely death

in the clubhouse a doctor is overheard

on a mobile phone

trying to buy more time away from

surgery to finish golfing this is dr

beeper

and we'll see more of him smails enters

and tells porterhouse who is in the

middle of performing a massage that a

brown audi is parked in his spot and he

wants it towed immediately

porterhouse agrees but the man he's

massaging quickly rises and escapes

presumably to move his brown audi at his

locker smails also tosses his shoes to

porter house complaining about a subpar

shine before bumping into tai he asks

how he played out there today

and tai says he doesn't keep track how

do you measure yourself with other

golfers

by hide smails taps another patron on

the shoulder

to share a racist and sacrilegious joke

and the man turns to reveal a priest's

caller

and laughs because he's already heard

the joke porterhouse being

african-american is less than amused by

the racism

and instead of shining the shoes starts

grinding them into a smoky mess

cervic pulls up in a convertible with a

we're in the money horn

[Music]

and his guest mr wang who takes photos

incessantly climbs out of the passenger

seat

as soon as they enter the pro shop he's

already pissing smails off

ripping on a terrible hat that they have

for sale before noticing that smails is

wearing one

oh it looks good on you though uh when

lou is handing out caddy assignments

is brown nosing and asks for smails even

though nobody wants him

a young girl tries to lift cervix insane

golf bag

and can barely get it off the ground i

think i think that it's important to

point out here that

they're not trying to make it look like

a girl no

that there is no there's a reveal later

yeah that she's a girl so right now

she's got her hair all tucked up under

her hat and

she's you know flat she's a young girl

so she's flat chested and

dressed just like all the rest of the

cat yes yeah my niece was

surprised of the reveal when she takes

off her head she goes what

this character was originally written to

be a young boy but the transportation

guy on set recommended his granddaughter

for the role because

she was kind of a tomboy and she got the

part i actually really like

that they they did this and then they

had a reveal i think i think it's

it adds a whole other layer it's much

better than just having to be a boy yeah

just another

yeah you know anonymous character lacey

smails his niece shows up

and flaunts her bralessness in front of

the caddies before joining her uncle on

the green

he explains to his fellow golfers that

she's staying with them for the summer

as spaulding shouts all manner of

elementary school curse words in the

background

cervic shows up and starts heckling

smails at the first hole

cervix says he bets him a hundred bucks

that he slices it into the woods

and smells replies we don't allow

gambling and i never slice before

slicing it into the woods

okay you can owe me uh when cervix steps

up to the ball

he presses the driver button on his

remote and it comes flying right out of

the bag for him

danny looks the other way while smails

kicks the ball from the tree line

correcting for the interference he dealt

with earlier he asks how thai golf this

morning

guessing 80 75 and danny says more like

68 i think

and smails doesn't believe this for a

second yeah because he's not

very good at golfing he's furious that

anyone else is

uh cervic hits a wild shot and yells

four but nobody on the green reacts

i feel like you're all supposed to duck

when you hear someone shout four

and and he was correct yeah doing what

he he

he did not commit any infraction yeah

smails

doesn't react and ends up taking one of

his orange golf balls right in the

crotch

and then uh cervix says i shouldn't go

too tony sets down cervix enormous

golf bag i'm sorry i can't get over

every time you say

cervic it sounds like you're saying

cervix everyone's name is a joke in this

movie

but when cervic tears off the front

panel revealing a car stereo

so let's dance and cranks journeys any

way you want it full blast across the

course

uh smails chips a ball surprisingly

close to camera here

and turns angrily to the source of the

music danny tells smails that he's

considered going into law

specifically like sound violations

he's like oh yeah you could hire me as

an attorney to do exactly this kind of

work if you put me through law school

and he says oh but my family can't

afford it and this male says well the

world needs ditch diggers too

smails his niece lacey applauds his

effort as she passes though nice try

we cut to carl lugging a flesh tone hose

between his legs to the gopher's hole

intending to flood him out

as he

granite sings guts how about a nice cool

drink he sees the gopher surface at

another hole and leaps for it

getting bit in the hand and then he

shoves in the hose and cranks the water

up

only to find that the gopher's hole

connects all over the green and is now

spouting everywhere

cervix shows off a couple more

inventions a beer tap

a television and some kind of course

correcting

scope that's attached to his putter to

perfect his form

spalding approaches the concessions

counter with smails

and places a long meandering order from

pretty far away

as he's walking up he's like i want a

hamburger

no a cheeseburger i want a hot dog i

want a milkshake

i want potatoes get nothing and like it

maggie and danny have a seat at the

table behind her stand and make a date

for tonight

cervic catches smails about to finish a

game inches from the hole

and bets him a grand that he'll miss it

draws the attention of a lot of

onlookers

and smails chokes before angrily

throwing his club back toward the

clubhouse

striking a female customer and

destroying a picnic table

danny takes the credit for the club

being slippery

before they're able to sneak away from

this disagreement

and smails thanks him for the excuse he

recommends that danny try for that

scholarship because he knows that it's

back up for grabs

that night carl spackler takes a

flashlight and he tapes it to a rifle

while he's loading it

he's reciting action movie narration

about a man issued a license to kill

varmints

and that's all we get here really yeah

it won't come into play

until later across the club a party is

underway

danny and maggie are waiting tables

danny is absent-mindedly slicing

pad after pad of butter onto a plate for

lacey until she points it out

cervic tells maggie to tell the chef the

food tastes like dog food

dangerfield is basically just working

his way through his regular stand-up set

here at the table

he was generally inexperienced on movie

sets and

he had all this prepared stuff so that

kind of became what his character was

going to say for the movie

but he got really mad because nobody was

laughing

at the jokes and he like kept going to

ramus he's like i don't understand why

no one's laughing and they're like

he's like they can't laugh it messes up

the take if they laugh no one's

suppose he's like oh okay well why

didn't you tell me that before

apparently he also

wouldn't respond to the word action so

remus had to say it repeatedly

before explaining when i say action

that's when you start and he says so

that's when i do my bit

yeah okay action nothing eventually

hello mr thompson yeah

eventually remus would just cue rodney

by saying hey rodney do your bit now

i'm gonna step on your foot now yeah i

think he's talking to you

uh we hard cut to the chef reacting to

the message that maggie

actually bothered to convey to the

kitchen

maggie pulls dany aside and warns him

against pursuing lacey

insisting that she's a huge [ __ ] so

that will scare a teenage guy away

carl all taped up in branches sneaks

around on the greens

and trains his crosshair at the head of

the gopher holes

he says that he can smell varmint

puntang and the only good

vermin punching is dead

so are we to assume this is a female

gopher apparently

ty enters the party and quickly catches

the eye of lacey

he takes her outside and they flirt a

bit he asks what she does

and she says i enjoy skinny skiing

going to bull fights on acid

[Music]

i bet you got a lot of nice ties

what do you mean you want to tie me up

with some of your ties

this is another character who gets put

in a scene with chevy chase and they

give her all the punch lines

which i thought was weird that because

all of chevy's stuff that he's doing is

physical comedy and it seems improvised

but they didn't really give him a lot to

work with so he's having to

make up his half of these scenes he

moves to kiss her when

carl fires a shot and shatters a lantern

near both of them

spalding is moving through this party

just downing all of the orphaned drinks

yeah until he chugs one with a cigarette

in it

and he moves outside to throw up and

does so into the sunroof of a park to

luxury car

moments later a couple exit and the

driver sits in the vomit puddle

nearly causing his wife to also vomit i

don't think you could get

into a car without noticing that yeah

well without

noticing it it just opened the door

you'd smell it let alone see

something on the seat that's true the

next day danny is out caddying for tai

and discussing his college prospects

while ty does a bunch of trick shots

while making

no sounds like the six million dollar

man

just when it looks like he's missed a

shot we see that it was actually to set

up a final trick shot

where chevy himself jumps the ball over

another ball into the hole so good on

him for actually performing this trick

it's more than we can say for anyone in

the movie baltimore bullet nobody does

any of their own trick shots

the official caddy tournament is

underway this will go a long way to

locking you into the

caddy scholarship that everyone's after

i i love the dramatic shot

of the the first price trophy

yeah and then as the camera pulls out

and tilts down you see

one that it not only is it extremely

small but you see the prizes

associated with them in the second place

is a pair of socks

danny wins this first round handily even

with the

shrieking and calls up

from his friends around the hall smails

invites danny to mow his lawn

and then meet up at the christening of

his boat later at the yacht club

he goes to maggie's to celebrate and

tony tries to watch them have sex from

outside until danny pulls the windows

shut

we cut to the pool sign which grants the

caddy's permission to use it for 15

minutes a day

for like one to 115. uh right on the dot

at the start time

people are running full speed with

clothes some are still carrying golf

bags

they just fall into the pool as they're

running so this is where we get the

reveal finally

yes so the the kid that was having

trouble lifting the golf bag right she

takes off her hat

and she takes off yeah her hair is

really long and then she takes off her

shirt and she's wearing a

you know a full female

danny and maggie arrive at the pool and

tony immediately tries to hit on her

and he asks how was it and she says how

was what and he says

couldn't have been that great then tony

and danny square off to fight again

when lacey enters and they're both

suddenly frozen in place

she passes them slowly and moves

directly to the diving board

like maggie keeps trying to get her

their attention by coughing yeah she's

like

like making weird sounds between them

but uh she's adorable

she is great i love her i always had a

crush on her back when i was

like the first time i watched this movie

i was like this girl's adorable i don't

know if it's just the irish accent or

what

but just before she gets to the diving

board we have to cut because

the actress playing lacy here is

basically legally blind and she couldn't

wear contact lenses in the pool

so there's one shot where she walks up

to

the slide and takes a hold of the ladder

and then the next shot she's already

climbing up because

they had to take her contact lenses out

and lead her back to the slide

so that she can hold on to it and then

she climbs up and does her jump off the

side

or the the diving board it's a slide in

the second one oddly enough

oh that's weird but yeah she she

couldn't see at all so they had to lead

her to the diving but did she do that

dive herself because it's very nice dive

it is a nice dive and she she lands it

flawlessly that was her

i think it was her i guess there's a cut

there so they could have replaced her

with a professional they may have

because i don't know that if i were

blind i'd want to dive off of that

diving board

i definitely would no i wouldn't want to

do it and i can see fine

tony gives up on maggie to pursue this

girl and a group of caddies perform

a synchronized swimming routine to

tchaikovsky's waltz of the flowers from

the nutcracker

the lifeguard yells at the caddies to

stop roughhousing in the pool

until his entire tower is tipped over

into the water i do enjoy

when they're synchronized with me that

one's still wearing shoes yeah he's like

shorts and shoes well and like the the

lifeguard

is what he's mad about this yeah yeah he

wasn't mad earlier

when they were like punching each other

or like jumping in with all their

clothes on but

just a nice organized routine is what

sets him off

on the side of the pool someone offers

to share a chocolate bar

that is either called baby rut or baby

runt

depending on the camera angle we're

looking at uh it's obviously

supposed to be a baby roof but they

change the label on the bar

two different ways the the person she's

trying to share the chocolate bar with

takes the whole thing and just throws it

in the pool like a complete [ __ ]

yeah that's our caddies that's a girl

yeah yeah and uh and the girl that was

offering it is like hey thanks a lot

yeah why would you do that i don't know

it's so mean she was giving you a full

chocolate bar to share

just as mrs smales arrives to eject the

caddies

a girl in the pool is losing her top and

the score of the film is emulating jaws

as the kids are continuing to have fun

until a girl notices the duty

and everyone scrambles madly for the

sides of the pool

[Music]

[Applause]

well and i think the editing here is

what's really like hammers home the jaws

aspect that it's so close to everybody

well and it keeps cutting like

hard cutting to the to the swimming and

then back to the

back of the swimming like the like the

chaos of the water pov of somebody who's

wearing like goggles and a snorkel as if

they were

that pov of the shark yeah later we see

carl draining the pool

and he finds the chocolate bar on the

floor of the pool and he gets the

attention of smails

before telling them it's no big deal and

then takes a big bite out of it

and uh smells his wife just faints at

this

that's probably the only scripted thing

that bill murray does yeah

probably oh my god i love him

actually i've heard that there are

rumors that he wasn't

supposed to take a bite out of it that

he was just supposed to like it was

supposed to be gross enough that he was

holding it oh really but i feel like

they definitely would have known he was

going to take a bite out of it for that

joke

but that joke is so much better if he

takes a bite

yeah especially since he doesn't say

it's just a chocolate bar he says

it's no big deal

but the baby ruth scene apparently

actually happened at brian doyle

murray's high school

like it was a chocolate bar yeah it was

a chocolate bar they they had to drain

the whole pool before they figured out

it was a chocolate amazing

uh lacy pays ty a visit and

pelts him with a bunch of out of place

one-liners who's your decorator benny

hannah

it's like why are why are you doing the

jokes here because he's just like

this he's the straight man in this scene

he's not saying anything yet

he says that he collected his swords in

vietnam

and she's surprised to learn that he

served in the war and then he slaps his

hip as if to draw attention to an injury

and says

oh no

homo much better now though

which you can tell he just made that

joke up on the spot like they didn't

give him anything to say

it seems from the production notes i was

able to gather that

cindy morgan who plays lacey did not get

along with chevy which is a

shocker but i think she hides it well on

the scene

her bigger problem seems to have been

with producer john peters

who insisted at every turn that she

performed all of her romantic scenes

fully nude which she was not interested

in doing she didn't even want to be

topless

but he john peters was on the phone with

her and ramus

and basically told her if she didn't do

them at least topless that she would

never work again

and she broke down and did those scenes

later

he actually brought a photographer from

playboy

to shoot a full promotional spread with

her on the set

and she was like yeah i'm not going to

do that and her she called her adrian

and her agent was like you know this

wouldn't be terrible for you if you did

it

and harold ramus finally had to step in

and say no we're not doing this

cancel it send the photographer back to

playboy this is stupid

i can't believe her saying i'm not doing

that isn't enough yeah

but they use that as like okay well

that's where we're starting this debate

and then we'll work our way towards a

compromise

it's like no no it's not a compromise

situation that reminds me

i had a question yeah so in the scene in

the pool

there's a there's a shot where somebody

dives under the water and steals the

guy's

um yeah and he's wearing a jock strap

and he's

okay i was wondering if that was like

movie magic that he's supposed to be

naked and he's actually just wearing

something that's flesh-toned to try to

cover it up or if that was a jock strap

do you guys actually wear

jock straps under a bathing suit i don't

unless i plan on being especially

aggressive in the pool

is that something that people do i don't

know maybe okay

i think it's just uh a way to pants

someone and not have a dick floating

around in your movie

yeah but you got boobs all over the

place yeah nobody complains about boobs

in a movie

nobody wants to see a dick equal parts

time i would say that there

are more bare-chested men than

bare-chested women in this movie oh

there you go

no not tushies lacey and ty said to the

keyboard while he sings her a quick love

song

i was born

he like starts to lead her out of the

room because that was improvised

i'm sure it was we cut to a sensual

massage

where ty mistakenly slips the entire

bottle of oils open and splashes it

across her back which was also not

scripted and her reaction is not

scripted

because she's like are you crazy what

are you doing

but the the scene all of her reactions

in the scene are so genuine

yeah i like that they that they're not

scripted yeah and he

slips when he tries to yeah he's trying

to get off already just falls on the

ground

she calls him crazy and he says that's

what they said about the son of sam

which is such a weird response you don't

want to be alone with a guy when he says

that yeah

he takes a toothpick from their martini

and he slips the olives off of it and

threatens

to use it for acupuncture over her very

serious objections

and uh that's when he moves to kiss her

but her back and his front are slick

with oil when he falls to the floor

she collapses to the bed in the scene

like laughing and it's so genuine i love

it

danny shows up at the yacht club in a

full captain's uniform

dr beeper goes to bug a table full of

stoners for a hit

of whatever they've got when his phone

goes off

and when he's still wet from the water

he zaps himself trying to answer it

his his acting for that actually makes

me laugh pretty hard because he has to

like

slap it out of his hand onto the ground

and uh the crowd is invited over to

watch the christening of the sloop

which is a single masted sailboat for

anyone besides me

who would have to look that up and on

the way danny is introduced

to a single serving character named

chuck schick

a student or graduate of harvard law who

condescends to danny a bit

until lacey shows up to steal him away

when

mrs smails smashes the champagne bottle

on the bow of the flying wasp

i love that she breaks off a large part

of the ship

and uh the bottle does not break at all

cervic notices from further out in the

water

on his yacht his like mega yacht that uh

oh it's my buddy

and uh he just blasts full speed

straight towards them

i i hate the music in this part

[Music]

it's just that same over and over and

over again

yeah it it really got to me i had to

leave the room to go get like something

to eat

i can't cannot stand this music anymore

but uh he he's just going straight

forward through all these ships and

between people on like skidoos and

crashes a boat in half and he manages to

barely stop short of destroying smails

boat

but then he drops his anchor and he goes

right through

his whole ship sinking it officially

i guess not officially because he says

later that he just needs to repair it

not that it's a total loss

and i don't know how you can repair yeah

that ship has got to be at the bottom of

that

block right now it can't possibly have

survived this

we cut to another sex scene with lacey

this time at her uncle's home

that the ep envisioned as being fully

nude

in an effort to make lacey more

comfortable danny suggested that

and the crew agreed to shoot the scenes

with the entire crew shirtless but that

actually made things way weirder

smails enters and chases danny around

with a golf club even into the bathroom

where his wife is showering and they

exchange perverted glances

smails busts a hole in the door and we

get a little bit of danny torrence but

it's almost too early for this to have

been an intentional shining reference

that that is what i said during the

movie i was like are they trying to make

a shining reference because

that just came out i don't know if it

was in a trailer or something that had

come out before that maybe

but it feels like it's an intentional

reference

but that was what that was june

of this year may or june well so so okay

hold on

you think that and and you said danny

you mean jack

right jack torrance the character's name

is danny in

caddyshack yeah but she's right i did

say danny torrance

so you think that just because he

knocks a hole in the door to try to get

to somebody who he's trying to get to on

the other side it's a shining reference

i think when someone knocks a hole

in a door to a bathroom in a murderous

rage

and puts their face up to the hole

carrying a large metal weapon

that it seems like an intentional

reference i don't know i think it's a

coincidence

it's possible that it was but if it is

it was a happy coincidence i'm sure

because there's no way they didn't know

that it would look like the shining in

that scene

i guess i don't know i feel like if you

were trying to make it

an intentional reference you would have

done a better job at it you would have

made a bigger hole

more of his face would have come through

he would have had an axe something

yeah maybe well no because i think i

think having a golf club over an axe

would would make it funnier

for this movie what is he what is he

hitting it is

okay that makes sense i guess uh but

yeah unless they filmed it

afterwards which i don't think they did

i'm looking at the original script right

now

uh which is crazy because everything's

out of order oh weird

um like all the scenes are uh completely

out of order

this is something we might do for our uh

our early draft table reads when we get

to that level god i don't need another

podcast

we're not going to edit those that's

going out raw

do a search for the word luffa why i

can't search for the word

uh his face turns bright red it just

says

smell starts beating down the door with

this club that's okay

interesting back at the club we see carl

narrating the famous cinderella story

tears in his eyes i guess

he lines up this last shot he's got

about 195 yards left and he's gonna

looks like he's got about an eight on it

this crowd is going deadly silent

cinderella's story out of nowhere a

former greenskeeper now

about to become the masters champion

it looks like i'm a wreck it's in the

hole as he golfs the heads

off of a row of white moms the only

reason patrick knows their mums is

because of animal crossing

true true fact suddenly the bishop walks

up demanding a caddy

and carl is roped into this duty just as

he gets going it starts raining though

wind is blowing his over shots back into

the hole and the bishop quickly realizes

that he could break the club record if

this streak holds

he's a few holes in and it's doing

spectacularly well

a club employee advises him to head in

until the rain stops

but he checks with carl who says no i

don't think the heavy stuff's gonna come

down for some time

the storm is insane here in the next

shot like it's getting

progressively crazier with every cut and

now it looks like hurricane force wins

just blowing right at them

it's funny too because it looks like the

bishop is having to support bill murray

coming up the hill as opposed to the

other way around at the last hole he

misses a putt

and as he shakes his club at god he

shouts

[Music]

that is struck by lightning and we're

getting a bit of the uh

theme from the ten commandments here as

god is striking down the bishop on the

18th hole

but uh this actor was also in the ten

commandments movie

was he really yeah carl sneaks away just

leaving this body in the rain

which always seemed dark to me maggie

finds danny in the locker room at the

caddyshack

she tells him that she's late and he

says for what and she says

she's not being pregnant he agrees to do

the right thing

whatever she chooses and even proposes

to her

and she says well that's all i need

she tries to let him off the hook

explaining that it's not even for sure

his kid

and he says all right well i'm still

willing to marry you oh yeah

yeah where thanks for nothing before she

runs off

lou walks up after she leaves and he

says she needs you

pick up that kleenex because she dropped

a kleenex after she walked away

a representative of the club comes to

collect danny to see smails right away

smails is basically over what happened

as long as danny's willing

not to share what happened with anyone

hello

he comes into his office sit down danny

he's already sitting

and when they're trying to have the

conversation with the lamp is

he goes back and forth complimenting and

threatening danny

he says you know i've said his boys

younger than you

the gas chamber didn't want to do it but

i

owed it to what does them

mean uh danny promises to make up for

his mistakes

and smails refers to him as mr

scholarship winner

implying that hey if you don't tell

people about my niece being a [ __ ] then

you can have money for school in the bar

at the clubhouse

the bartender is making another drink

for the bishop who's looking pretty

ragged now

smails reprimands him for drinking too

much as a man of god and he says i'm

just a man

same as you and he says you're not a man

you're a bishop for god's sake

and he says there is no god because he's

so mad about losing his golf game

earlier

he looked so right in this scene i

wasn't even sure it was the same guy

yeah somehow he grew like a beard

from when he fell on the course uh

cervic

enters and he and smells are very

quickly entangled in a shouting match

smails has his hands around cervic's

neck when the fight is broken up and

smails accuses cervic of trying to

strangle him while rodney spouts his

catchphrase don't get no respect

talk of lawsuits goes both ways until

tai offers to mediate the disagreement

and smells his office with drinks maggie

dances around the 18th hole in her

pajamas apparently she lives on the

grounds

i know i was so confused by this i'm

like how is she there

in her pajamas like did she run all the

way from her house does she

sleep on the golf course she just lives

in the attic

well danny goes to see her and there's

like several other girls sitting out on

a porch

and that's true it's pretty close yeah

so i don't know

if she's like living in some kind of

like

campus i don't i don't she doesn't seem

like she goes to school

but maybe there's a thing for like

because she's waiting tables there and

she's

doing other tasks maybe there's a dorm

for employees yeah

but also why would you run off into the

golf course and you

she obviously wouldn't have known that

danny was there was she just running off

to be gleeful and why was he there

like it's weird that both of them that

either of them were there yeah

danny finds her and she reveals that she

is no longer pregnant we're assuming

that

she had her period yeah that saying that

she's no longer pregnant sounds like

she had an abortion well she's she said

or a baby

she says as much that she had her period

yeah so

they're relieved and she apologizes and

he apologizes because they've both been

awful to each other

uh back in smailz's office cervic

pitches a wager

he wants to play a round of golf for

twenty thousand dollars

and he suggests teams putting judge

smails with dr beeper

and selecting tai as his own partner

smails pulls ty aside

to talk him out of the game reminding

him that he and tai's father built this

place

but tai says that his dad always hate

its males he says let's make it forty

thousand

so now the wager is on each of them is

putting forty thousand up for the game

the gopher watches through a window as

carl is making

animals out of plastic explosives ty is

out practicing for the gamble when he

knocks the ball right into carl's shack

this is obviously their only scene

together in anything

ever as they famously hated each other

uh chevy chase and bill murray

but they were apparently very

professional on this set they wrote the

scene

like at lunch that day because they were

getting to the end of the movie and the

two of them didn't have a scene in the

script

together they wanted one well i think

harold ramis wanted the two funniest

people in america

if they were going to be in the same

movie to have a scene together but the

scene makes me

very uncomfortable to watch because

neither of them is the leading character

of the scene

and i'm i feel like i'm what the whole

time i'm watching and i'm constantly

trying to judge whether

anyone is being upstaged or trying to

upstage

and it seems like they're both trying to

out subtle each other to avoid getting

tagged as like the ham of the scene

but uh the result just feels awkward to

me and neither of them has like a

straight punch line is just kind of like

well it's also completely pointless yeah

there's not there's no point to this

yeah it doesn't serve us the the story

he's asking him about

uh the pl the place where he lives and

he's like oh you got you got a pool over

there and he's like oh well we got a

pool and a pond

uh pond's good for you emily

or the pool like yeah like bill murray

is like really stressing that he wants

to be in the pool yeah

ty decides to play through even though

his ball landed in carl's dinner

he replaces the ball on a patch of

experimental grass that carl

has developed which is a hybrid of

kentucky bluegrass

and northern california sensemia which

he says

the amazing stuff about this is that you

can play 36 holes on it in the afternoon

take it home and just get stoned to them

but jesus built that knight on his stuff

and then he offers chevy a joint and

chevy seems like like a you know tie

sorry i can claim yeah he's just like no

no no well it may have just won

but then they keep going back and forth

with it and then taking charge

it honestly it just feels like like a

hell week at a fraternity

where like bill murray just pulled out

this joint and chevy chase had didn't

know what it was and wasn't prepared for

this

but he can't say no because it's

obviously funnier if he takes it

and so he just keeps he gives him the

joint and then he gives him

the drink to to cannonball it and then

he gives him another joint and then he's

like can i ball it again all right you

got to go back and forth back and forth

and he keeps making it do it until he's

like

clearly on the verge of throwing up and

finally uh

he just turns to hit his ball back out

of the shack and that's the end of the

scene

uh carl notes ty's apparent nerves here

and

he tries to explain about the game with

smails tomorrow

carl says well that's no problem see

what you do is you take

this knife and you slash his ankles open

and then he'll never play golf again

uh the next day cervic and ty drive a

convertible right up to hole one

uh smails runs up to the car after

survey got out

so it's just ty in the car and he says

you get that car off the green this

instant

and ty turns as though to move the car

and pretends to be shocked when the

steering wheel is on the other side of

it

oh look at that don't play games with me

ty put that steering wheel over here i

belonged

and get this out of here getting out of

the car to join the game though

ty accidentally slams his fingers in the

car door which i think

the first time we watched it andrea

thought i was gonna be

laughing hysterically the whole time and

i didn't

until this line which just killed me

when

he slaves his hand to the door he goes

don't do it

i didn't do that

it's a convincing uh slapstick though

well that's his that's his whole

wheelhouse he's so great at that stuff

yeah it's

i was convinced he did actually yeah

slam his finger from the door

yeah but i like that he says don't do it

i didn't

do that because it it feels like the

implication is that in his head he was

thinking

don't slam your hand on the door don't

slam your head on the door don't

do it i didn't do that uh

but uh before the game starts lou that's

the brian doyle murray character

asks that everyone agree not to fire him

for his officiating here today

uh cervic bribes him to keep the game

fair and he's like oh

i can't take your money he's like just

take take the money

tai tries to collect a driver from danny

only to learn that danny is caddying for

smails reluctantly a crowd starts to

gather when word gets out that there's a

big money game on the

on the field carl loads up the gopher

holes with plastic explosive animals

and cervic is playing a real bad game

today i don't know that he's ever a

great golfer but

today he's having a particularly bad

game and ty's not doing well either

because of his

nerves and hand injury the caddies start

betting on everything

including whether spalding will pick his

nose and subsequently eat it

he does smails goes to harass cervic

because he's you know he's got the upper

hand right now they're winning at the

halfway point

and he gets cervic to double the bet

again so now it's 40

000 per player 80 000 total per team

cervic quickly fakes an injury so that

they can sub in danny noonan to take his

place

well i think the intention of the injury

was to forfeit right

to be a draw but then they're like oh

it's a forfeit well then you guys lose

and they're like well no they can

they can pick a substitute and they say

okay well then we'll take

we'll take danny and smail says well he

can't because he's an employee of the

club

but cervix says that he'll he promises

to make it worth his while

and between these two people you should

trust cervic over

smails yes smails is going to screw you

he tipped you 50 cents when you

took credit for him almost killing a

woman and cervic is just throwing money

at people this whole time

so danny takes the spot and smails tells

him that he just cost him the

scholarship

and he's like yeah i guess so ty pulls

him aside and says you need to win this

one

and daniel reminds him i thought you

said winning wasn't important

and then he says me winning isn't you do

great grammar at the final hole the

match has evened up

four balls are putting distance from the

hole dr beeper gets there in two hits

and smails calls out the old billy baroo

a fancy looking putter in a purple silk

sock

purple sock i don't think it's fancy i

think it's just like

old school yeah whatever it is it's

important and

he's able to sink it in one shot tai

takes two shots

meaning that danny now needs to sink

this in one to tie it up

uh here is where rodney kind of screws

up the movie a little bit

uh his line was probably let's double it

again

that he makes it eighty thousand but

instead he says

hey judge double or nothing he makes it

eighty

000. yeah essentially essentially making

the whole golf game pointless

yeah because now it's just down to this

shot right but whoever proposes double

or nothing

is first of all admitting that they've

lost the first wager

and that they're offering a second wager

that would either double the person's

winnings or cancel out their debt

so worst case scenario here for cervic

is that he owes smails

double and the best case is that their

debt is canceled and nobody owes anybody

anything

yeah danny gets the ball right to the

edge of the hole where it stops

and because the ball has come to a

complete stop the game according to the

rules of golf is over

and smails has won 80 000 each from tai

and cervic

instead karl chooses this exact moment

to trigger his explosives

and the golf course was obviously not

cool with bombing their greens

so a large hill was constructed to blow

up instead which is partially obscured

by

a tree in the shot but the flames were

much bigger than the filmmakers had

anticipated of course

they completely blew up the entire hill

that they built and the explosions of

the film's climax were reported by

passing pilots

as an apparent plane crash oh no

flames and smoke chased the gopher

through his hole the shaking of the

course by the explosion causes

the ball to tip into the hole lou's the

only person still watching it

yeah but eventually everyone else turns

their attention on it and

uh he declares a victory on behalf of

tyne cervic

when smails tries to welch on the debt

they're implying he still owes but he

doesn't

technically cervix sends two goons after

him

and we close the film on the gopher

puppet having survived the explosion

and dancing to kenny loggins i'm all

right again and that's the end of our

film

our director here was harold ramis the

writer of ghostbusters stripes and

groundhog day

he also wrote back to school armed and

dangerous meatballs animal house

he obviously directed groundhog day and

multiplicity and he plays egon

he's russell and stripes he's don

durkett in orange county

sean you're my same height

[Laughter]

writer brian doyle murray here he plays

lou loomis in the film

he's also frank shirley clark griswold's

boss in

christmas vacation uh he plays noah

vanderhoff in wayne's world

he's buster in groundhog day he's earl

cross frank's father in the scrooged

flashback

game only four uh he's the voice of the

flying dutchman on spongebob

and he's also captain knuckles that's

misadventures of flapjack but you're

basically the same character

but it's a great one i really love

captain canuckles he's maybe one of my

favorite cartoon characters

um writer douglas kenny uh co-founded

the national lampoon magazine with henry

beard

uh he wrote animal house and caddyshack

see that and that's what i thought

i thought this was a national lampoons

movie i don't know why it wasn't because

it has so many national lampoon players

and snl people yeah i

i so when i was introducing it to my

niece i said yeah so this is national

lampoon's caddyshack

and i was watching looking out like

there is no national lampoon on here

yeah that's

that is weird i didn't think about that

but i guess because harold ramos was

actually

in the on the shortlist to direct animal

house and then john landis got that

and then ivan reitman or john landis

wanted to direct caddyshack

but harold ramis was like no i got this

one

but uh douglas kenny here appears in the

film

as a balding man in a tuxedo when rodney

advises two people dancing to get a room

he's talking to them he is also

portrayed by will forte

in a wonderful film called a futile and

stupid gesture

which tells his full life story or at

least the story of his career

ending with it's basically just after

the release of caddyshack

when he tragically died by falling off a

cliff while vacationing in hawaii

kenny was very depressed at the time and

had been struggling with substance abuse

but it was officially ruled an accident

and

notes for a future project were found

scribbled out on a notepad in his hotel

room so

he had at least plans for the future

although a fellow national lampoon

author chris miller

morbidly joked that doug was looking for

a better place to jump from when he

slipped

chevy chase plays ty webb here this was

his second film this year after oh

heavenly dog and he'll be back for seems

like old times

in 1980 he was considered earlier this

year for american gigolo an airplane

uh and eventually passed on both

although i think

with the case of airplane he was passed

on i think with american gigolo he was

just someone they were considering at

one point

he's probably best known as clark

griswold from the five film

vacation franchise he's one of the

amigos he's fletch

and he plays a doctor in dirty work that

makes me laugh rodney dangerfield was al

cervik

this was his first major film role but

he'll be back in back to school

rover dangerfield ladybugs and i think

he was

was he juliette louis's dad in natural

born killers

in that movie i have not seen that one

i'm trying to remember who the two main

characters of that movie are

it was woody harrelson woody harrelson

juliet lewis

and rodney dangerfield as her dad okay

so him and chevy chase have both played

juliet lewis's father

so that's fun ted knight was judge ella

hugh smails

e-l-i-h-u smails it's a very weird name

yeah he plays

ted baxter on mary tyler moore show

which i didn't actually watch but

but i think that that's probably his

most famous thing that people know him

from he also has a lot of voice acting

credits

um for dc cartoons he was a narrator on

super friends

he was commissioner gordon on some stuff

he was flash on some things

michael o'keefe was danny noonan he

plays ben meacham and the great santini

he plays barry grissom and michael

clayton

he was hugh axton in the 2011 atlas

shrugged

and he also plays grandpa harry in

macgyver reboot season two episode four

yeah x-ray plus penny obviously that's a

flashback because

he's not old enough to play grandpa

macgyver's grandfather

bill murray was carl spakler we had him

earlier this year as hunter thompson

and we're the buffalo rum he's in a lot

of ramus movies a lot of wes anderson

movies and a couple jim jarmusch movies

sarah holcomb was maggie o'hooligan

she's great

not a lot of credits no she previously

appeared in animal house but basically

retired from acting after this film

her reasons for retiring boiled down to

issues with schizophrenia that were

exacerbated by the prolific cocaine use

on the set of this film

by the entire cast and her life story

was actually dramatized

in the 2004 film stateside with rachel

lee cook playing the part of sarah

i haven't seen the movie but i did start

looking into it

scott columbia plays tony denunzio

and that was one of the other caddies he

plays brian schwartz in porkys

he did adr work in the 90s for newsies

dazed and confused demolition man river

wild

die hard with a vengeance saving private

ryan and fight club

that's a fun list of movies he also

dated cindy morgan

for a couple years after this film was

made cindy morgan played lacey underall

she was also laura and yuri

in tron but she also doesn't have a lot

of credits yeah

but she but drawn yeah oh always gotta

get a try all you need

i who are those characters it's been a

very long the female lead

yeah the female aide sorry it's been a

super long time since they've seen the

first truth

fix that okay well we'll get there right

was it 81 18

82 84 82 87 okay

96. somebody say i thought it was

earlier than that henry wilcoxson

was the bishop he played pentar in the

ten commandments

he played the vicar and miss minniver um

i think he's also in a sequel to miss

minniver

i forget what it was called now and he

plays mark anthony in

cecil b demille's cleopatra which was

led by claudette colbert in 1934.

albert salmi played mr noonan he was

rory poke in blue baker

blue baker brubacher he was e1

and escaped from planet of the apes but

we didn't know what that meant

we still don't we still don't haven't

looked into it

uh he was greel and dragon slayer and

smurdikov in the brothers karamazov

anne ryerson was grace who's grace

grace in this movie uh somebody's grace

maybe that's

something yeah well i i don't doubt that

her name was an inspiration for ramus's

later script groundhog day

but she also played katie in friday the

13th part six

and dr catherine james in minority

report well she was born in 49 so she

must have been someone

young-ish youngish maybe she's the

mother of the noonan house

that should be she'd only be 30. uh

but because both his parents seem pretty

old maybe it's the older sister at the

noonan house that's

complaining at the bathroom door at the

beginning i don't know

uh bruce mclaughlin uh plays old crony

uh not sure who that is but he played

doctor number two in the island earlier

this year

uh violet ramus played one of the noonan

children that is the daughter of harold

ramos

and she also plays a production

assistant in the movie stuart saves his

family

she wasn't a pa on the film she plays a

production assistant in the film

john murray plays another one of the

caddies i actually didn't notice him in

here

but the other thing i know him from

mostly is from playing james cross

frank's bro in scrooged the ss minnow

james what was the ship that brought

them all to gilligan's island

the ss minnow that wasn't brian in that

one

brian doyle murray plays his dad in the

flashback oh

they look so much alike

i think the other than bill and brian

doyle the other two brothers look the

exact same the two that act a lot

yeah which i always confuse john and i

think

i don't even remember what the other

guy's name is now he's the one that in

god bless

america and he was on mad men for a long

time

oh yeah that's the guy that's not john

oh

okay joel is the other one the ss minnow

but yeah i enjoy this movie but i

didn't watch it when i was a kid and so

any of the jokes that i would have just

had nostalgia for i think i miss out on

yeah i didn't watch it uh as a kid

either i i

don't dislike this movie but i don't

have the same sort of

love of this movie like it's one of you

know a lot of people have it as like one

of their favorite movies of all time and

i just don't have that sort of passion

for

it well it's weird because i feel like

caddyshack stripes

and ghostbusters get spoken about like

in the same breath by a lot of people

like these are three classic bill murray

movies right and i disagree

that this is a bill murray vehicle of

any kind

he's just kind of there and that's fine

i i don't i think that that like you

said in the

as far as the trivia that he just was

like we need someone to replace this get

bill in here

yeah he's but i

i feel like it was a little bit lazy to

make him improv everything because he's

an actor like

he's an improviser that's great and i i

know a lot of people think that what he

did here was funny obviously

like i'm not i'm not i'm not in the

majority thinking that he wasn't

hilarious in this movie but i

feel like even if it's bill murray write

something for him

you know there should be you shouldn't

just be like

no you do it bill you're so good at that

it's like

yeah just write something like i can

improve on something that's fine but

i feel like they should have given him

something to do yeah i agree with that

but maybe

they learn those lessons coming going

down the road for things like

ghostbusters

yeah to kind of like fine-tune his

performance because as much as people

pretend like ghostbusters was

100 improvised you look at almost every

draft of the script has some version of

every joke that bill murray says

like undoubtedly he's improving on the

material but

you you can't pretend that he just made

up that whole movie because

nobody can do that yeah uh

i i really enjoy this movie and uh it is

definitely a movie that

i you know as far as giving thumbs up

and stuff like that

definitely i definitely give it up yeah

it gets enough for me too and i laughed

a lot and like you know watching it with

my dad and

my niece who had not seen it um she she

claimed to enjoy it

um uh she was most displeased with

danny and maggie's relationship then it

gets that it gets left out

we'll know that that that that he cheat

danny cheats on her

with well she cheats on him too though

uh or if she claims to

in order to make him feel maybe less

guilty we'll never really know

if she does but we know for sure that he

does

i don't think in that moment she cares

about making him feel guilty i think

she's

no no to relief his guilt yeah but

that's what i mean i i don't think she's

just saying it to make him feel better i

think she's like no

seriously it's maybe not yours

and that's not why i'm talking to you

about this well she was very displeased

that that

if that about because she's like just

doesn't want

she wants people who are in a

relationship to be in a world

in a relationship uh but

uh aside from that she said she really

enjoyed the movie she thought it was

really funny

um watching it this time and then now

going through this script i was like oh

man this movie is

all over the place yeah yeah and

and that is my big problem with this

movie is that we spend so much time

with other people you lose focus on what

the movie is supposed to be about

and it just becomes a series of almost

skits yeah

i still feel like the the overwriting

story is

is rodney dangerfield versus ted knight

like that's the most

important through line because the stuff

with

with danny and maggie is over in act two

right

but i feel like danny's is the only one

to go through the character change of

him finally deciding

no i'm gonna give up this scholarship to

do the right thing

right now correct me if i'm wrong but

wasn't part of the story point

that the construction that's happening

across the street

rodney dangerfield's construction yes

so i feel like that needed to be played

up a whole bunch more

that he's the one that's causing

the problems at the golf course in

addition to being obnoxious

well he also said that he was thinking

about buying the golf course

right which is awesome very much a

throwaway thing in this

it doesn't come into play and you know

that if he did buy the place he wouldn't

run it as a golf course no he said he

was talking about like

it's it's golf courses and cemeteries

are the worst

the worst use of real estate they're

just full of dead people yeah

i this definitely thumbs up for me yeah

i give it a thumbs up

as much as i'm you know complaining

about all these things about the movie

it's still funny it's still better than

most movies from 1980.

i would not want to see the 4-hour cut

of this movie no

i kind of would i kind of want to re-cut

it with all four hours of footage no the

reason why i want to see the 4-hour cut

is because i would like to see some of

the scripted stuff that didn't make it

well so much of it is unscripted like

like i said reading the script

the the fight with uh danny and tony

about the coke

yeah the 50 cents that happens way late

that's like one of the first scenes we

get in this movie yeah the the scene in

the script

it happens way way later it's weird um

there's all there's a whole subplot

about uh maggie being in the country

illegally

because she's an exchange student right

yeah and and that she needs to marry

somebody which they never even explain

why she has an irish accent in the movie

i think that's fine though yeah that

doesn't bother me at all you can have an

idea realistic

um but yeah there's like there was like

i sometimes for movies like this i like

to read the script

instead of because i can't really make

notes on a movie like caddyshack because

i've seen it too many times

yeah yeah um so any notes i've already

got in my head

uh so for a movie like this i like to

have this the script so i can follow

along

with where we are in the story yeah and

i can remember the scenes but in this

case you can't

i was like i'm like i'm like i'm like i

can't i don't know where we are

i i'm totally lost yeah and

and if the script can be switched around

like that

so much i'm curious what does it have a

cervix line at the end

uh oh the we're all gonna say double or

nothing right um

again i'm having like there's all kinds

of other stuff that happens at the end

uh let's see where's we're waiting

that's such a great the 10 nights

delivery on that well

we're waiting the the great gif

of that yeah uh no it says double or

nothing

he does in the script weird

yeah maybe people just didn't understand

the meaning of that phrase

i guess they just hear the devil part

and they're like oh they doubled it

again

but the whole time nobody said double or

nothing so it's clearly an

a new story change

interesting letter boxed

where's this going richard uh for me i

have this

uh at number 15. okay which is just

below

little darlings and just above coal

miner's daughter

all right um i have it a little higher

i have it just below airplane which puts

it at number nine

for me and i just feel like it belongs

just below airplane it just feels right

to me which is just a blub

knight of the juggler for me i actually

have it at 15.

um so it's uh it's right

above my brilliant career and just below

where the buffalo rom

which for me is a better bill murray

performance for the year well i have

where the buffalo road much higher than

yeah so i'm surprised that you have it

so high up jesse that's great

well i mean my list

just so you understand is the order in

which i'd probably want to watch these

movies again

and i think like i said um in our last

review

i am going to choose a comedy almost

every time

as much as some of these movies are

really great you know like i loved my

brilliant career i love the changeling

i'm still gonna pick a comedy every time

yeah

for me i feel like my list is if

you haven't seen any of these movies and

you only have enough time to watch one

watch the shiny watch two watch the

shining and forbidden zone and when i

get down to caddyshack

it's not because i think it's so much

better of a movie than a lot of the

stuff below it

it's because it is a bill murray

chevy chase rodney dangerfield harold

ramis

movie and for that reason alone you

should see it even if it was bad

yeah you should see it at that point but

if you're going to ask me what i'm going

to put on

you know next week i'm going to pick

caddyshack over my brilliant career even

though my berlin career is probably a

better movie

sure yeah i think that's everything for

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