we're on a mission from god

wendy

so i got that going darling

i picked the wrong way to quit sniffing

blue light of my life

we enjoy your films

i thought they smelled bad

on the outside

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welcome to vintage video where we're

re-watching the 80s so you don't have to

we'll be reviewing every major film

release of the 1980s in real time over

analyzing what you've seen and spoiling

what you haven't i'm patrick o'reilly

i'm jesse bayless i'm richard wells and

i'm pat mcgrath and today marks the 40th

anniversary are we not even going to

acknowledge the fact that there is

another patrick in this room patrick

mcgrath is here hello everybody hi pat

welcome hello all of you in podcast land

patrick has his own podcast that he

works on yeah be sure to listen to our

old episodes of watch movie do podcast

and also the sketch comedy podcast known

as free candy van that's a great one

today marks the 40th anniversary of the

release of those lips those eyes on

august 15 1980. it was written by david

shaber directed by michael pressman and

released by united artists screenwriter

david shaber studied medicine at case

western reserve university but spent two

summers as a prop man at kane park

theater in cleveland heights ohio the

experience inspired him to change his

major to study at yale drama school and

after writing a full 18 screenplays he

finally sold a pair 1979's the warriors

and last embrace he had a harder time

selling those lips those eyes because

the consensus was that audiences would

not be interested in a backstage story i

feel like this is totally relatable i

think that

anybody who is a theater person

understands this movie and and probably

understands this guy's choice to be like

oh my god i need to do this now this is

my thing yeah yeah and you're talking

about uh walter hills the warriors he

wrote this one yeah incredible the

success of his other scripts helped

nudge this one over the line and when

the time came to secure locations they

actually ended up shooting at the actual

kane park theater in cleveland heights

where the story took place we start the

film with uh the chorus of the lyrics to

a french military marching song from the

musical the desert song

[Music]

harry is getting a half hour notice as

he's applying makeup in front of a

mirror

he notices that he's out of trojans

before lighting a cigarette backstage

at the 15 minute mark he's still

applying makeup and at five minutes he's

waiting in the wings where he pulls a

folded love note from the brim of a

costume hat

he takes the stage and sings the lead of

in old new york from the red mill

in old new york in old new york the

peach crops always fly based on my

cursory research these two songs are

actually from two different musicals

absolutely are so i don't know if it's

uh like just a rehearsal or if this is

an actual performance and they're doing

multiple songs from different musicals

this night uh i believe that's the

actual performance of the red mill okay

yeah just off stage harry kisses the

dancer who left the note and already

watches from the wings completely

fascinated

he's here applying for a job in the

props department and it sounds like he's

already been offered the position

they're just waiting on an answer

a banner outside reads kempton hills

park theater it lists a july 10 show of

the red mill a july 12 show of the

desert song implying that the two songs

we heard were played on separate nights

so maybe it was supposed to be like a

montage of just him backstage yeah

there's a lot of that going on in this

movie too yeah there's more of that

arty shoemaker climbs into a car with

shoemaker auto parts painted on the

driver's side door and as harry leaves

the theater he's complaining out loud we

are doing 10 weeks in a graveyard

because he's not a fan of this town

at home artie's little brother who seems

to share a room with him tells him that

he's going to be in deep [ __ ] if he

accepts this job

if he fails his anatomy class again he's

going to be sent to the korean war

instead of finishing medical school

but he isn't college right yeah yes okay

he's in like makeup college like he's

summer school or some kind of yeah he's

getting like last minute

class okay because he failed the class

once and he's retaking it got it it's

just a little confusing that he's in

college still living at home still

sharing a room with his brother it just

seems like he should be

past this yeah that makes perfect sense

especially because of what we hear from

his father later on that he wants him to

be able to focus on his studies so

they're not pushing him out to go live

on his own they're just they want to

stay home and and and and be stable as a

student yeah his brother is poking fun

at the at his focus at this theater and

he says

arnie who are you kidding you can't

build [ __ ]

you don't know how to hold a hammer you

don't even know what tinder the nail

gets in

got a 50 50 chance in artie's anatomy

class the next day each student is

handed a dead or at least seriously

wounded dog fish

after class arty heads back to the

theater venue and is captivated by the

illustrated sets and props on stage

he's given a very rapid fire tour of the

prop house

and he insists to his supervisor that

he's got it and that there's no problem

uh that afternoon artie's father played

by jerry stiller pulls up to the house

this is our memorial jerry stiller

record we haven't had any jerry stiller

movies yet this year so yeah

and we just lost him a couple weeks ago

or maybe last week he was a great

performer great guy artie's parents talk

in the kitchen about the job he has

apparently accepted

his dad seems surprised that they will

pay him to work backstage as a stagehand

and his mom is clearly more upset about

it than the dad is the dad says he's

always gotten fired maybe he'll get

fired weirdly this comment comes across

as supportive

like he's saying this to get her off of

artie's back

don't worry he's going to do a terrible

job he'll be fired and he'll be back to

becoming a doctor it's just a fan it's

just a flash in the pan yeah because

that's who we want as a doctor as

someone who repeatedly fails yeah

artie's boss finds him nailing a crooked

wooden frame together i'm not even sure

what he's trying to build here i have no

idea but uh he tells him to grab a

handful of props to take to rehearsal

and uh when artie says no problem he he

already knows to say stop saying no

problem

you don't know what you're doing artie

throws together a pile of props very

haphazardly and he's repeatedly reciting

to himself i'm not gonna panic i'm not

gonna panic

as he brings them to the rehearsal these

guys must have been pretty desperate to

hire this guy i don't know why you hire

a guy who literally has zero experience

it's a small town theater group i feel

like you don't have a lot of options

yeah i feel like he was they hired that

other guy later that he just kind of

like was like hey can i work here and

they were like sure you're security now

well he had a he he had a passion for it

i know i think the the uh the prompts

assistant is a not glamorous position

and maybe no one was clamoring to to

take up the assistant party yeah that's

possible i don't know that there was a

prop master there either it didn't seem

like anyone was showing him the ropes i

think that older guy was supposed to

play that part but he wasn't really

doing it that well oh he seemed like the

theater director but he was he knew

where everything was kept on each floor

of the property yes maybe he was the

prop master

uh back at the stage artie clumsily

drops an arm load of props on a table

in the middle of rehearsal the director

turns in his chair to chastise artie for

interrupting they resume rehearsals and

already joins other stagehands on the

sidelines they talk about which of the

dancers is hotter which ones they've had

sex with and they ask artie which one he

likes and he's so distracted by a girl

named ramona that he misses his cue in

the rehearsal

the director is furious with arity for

delivering a pencil-sized pencil and an

italian jug of wine for a play that

takes place in the moroccan desert

so

as if the audience would be able to read

the label on the wine but he definitely

wants them to be able to see a pencil

yeah well it's the style of the bottle

too yeah harry tries to intervene on

arty's behalf and the director follows

ardy back to the prop house to complain

about all the other props that he

collected he's like look at this sword

this sword is stupid and then to prove a

point harry picks up the sword and

starts intimidating the director with it

to show that it's actually could be a

scary sword depending on how you use it

and then he harry aft after the director

leaves harry basically tells artie

pencil means a huge pencil so like a

baseball bat painted like a pencil it

needs to read from the stage and

also remember that all food is made from

bananas so if they want steak you take

bananas and you paint them brown or they

turn brown on their own

this was one of my favorite scenes in

the entire movie when he's like talking

him through it all yeah just breaking

down the the secrets of theater itself

especially because um the audience can't

tell of course right uh but it's

beautiful how uh he he goes on to to say

that that uh i iced tea always stands in

for scotch yeah and uh uh the ice is

glass iso glass and water stands in for

gin and

if you want champagne is just ginger ale

right it's beautiful yeah but i like

that he pays close enough attention to

everything that he's able to like

basically fill him in on this job that

he's never done here that he's just been

acting he's seen so much of it he knows

at home artie is being lectured over

dinner about his new life goals dr

faldower is leaving the house after a

tutoring session with artie's brother

and his dad makes a joke about how

arty's wasting his time at some theater

and the doctor just hears the word

theater and like goes into a trance

because he he misses theaters from his

childhood and he's just like oh the

theater

on the way to tonight's show artie is

asked to drop the doctor off and the

doctor tells him that he's lucky for

having the theater in his life just as a

prop table is being rolled on the stage

during that night's show artie realizes

that another pair of stagehands have

glued the bottle of wine and the glass

to the table with the intention of

embarrassing harry on stage

but he seems

experienced in their in their pranks so

when he goes to pick up the bottle he

realizes quickly that it's glued to the

table and just yanks it off anyway and

he takes a big chunk of the table with

it and then he has to break the glass to

get it off of the table he breaks the

glass off the table takes a sip out of

it and then he chucks it into the

fireplace

on set

and i was wondering if that was actually

part of the scene or part of the play

yeah because i thought it'd be funny if

he was just mad and he just improvised

because he's like i can't i can't

obviously set this glass down again

because it has no bottom on it

you would have to wonder a bit because

the glas the glass completely shatters

but yeah the top of it breaks apart too

yeah yeah when he throws it in the

fireplace but the fire in the fireplace

swivels down as if it's meant to

so it yeah like like it's been

extinguished by the liquor yeah it felt

it was like a very mr toad's wild ride

kind of like it just folds down so it's

not visible anymore old old dark ride

theatrics

but i'm wondering were they willing to

sacrifice a glass every single time that

they performed or maybe he wasn't

supposed to throw it as hard

maybe well it was already broken anyway

exactly it's useless now uh after the

show artie moves to apologize to harry

who has already forgotten about the

prank he doesn't care because this show

doesn't matter to him he's just waiting

for

his manager mickey bellinger to show up

and whisk him away to the real theater

which i think for him is

only broadway that's the only thing that

counts in his brain

uh harry asks if artie has picked out a

dancer yet did you pick that dancer yet

[ __ ] dancer doesn't matter the best

thing about dances is the known fact

they all buff

and uh we get a quick time stamp here

that this is 1951 specifically because i

think he literally says this is 1951

absolutely does

this is 1951. uh harry wraps another

performance of desert rose singing mine

all mine on stage and one of the dancers

asks artie if he found a feather that

she's missing and he's able to produce

it immediately i guess he found it and

was holding on to it yeah i feel like we

should have seen that unless we did and

i missed it i don't think we do but that

sort of thing really honestly does

happen all the time in theater yeah

but he's like oh do you mean this one

and she's like oh my god thank you so

much yeah for some reason since the

feather thing worked once arty tries it

on a bunch of other dancers yeah some of

whom don't even have feathers

yeah he should be a little bit more

thoughtful about that but then he

manages to arrange kind of a half date

with a girl who had iffy plans he sees

dr faldower working at the prop house

and he finds out that he started working

here as security for the theater

back at home arty speaks with his

brother until the phone rings because

he's talking about how things are going

well and he's gonna hook up with a

dancer and his brother's like yeah right

he's like boy wouldn't you be surprised

if that phone rang right now yeah yeah

hysterical

uh it's harry and he wants him to come

out to the after party

when artie gets there harry points out

that ramona is alone and so artie takes

a seat next to her it's it's weird that

she's alone but the guy that she's

supposedly dating is there and he gets

jealous when he goes to sit with her

yeah yeah and i was like wait why aren't

you sitting with her then yeah cause she

she cast him off oh they broke up i

think so okay

harry is uh getting

kind of

made fun of here by the other jerk

stagehands because there's a phone booth

here at this bar that they're drinking

at and no one's allowed to use the phone

because his agent might call him on it

and so anytime someone tries to use it

he's like pushing people out of that

that area harry starts shouting back at

them with like a monologue and his

lecture culminates with him feigning a

heart attack or something at the table

because he's so passionate about what

he's saying and they're all freaking out

because they think they gave this guy a

heart attack and then they realized that

he's reciting shakespeare and doing a

scene cookie is the is this the the lead

jerk stage hand he's uh sort of the biff

tannen character he notices that ramona

and artie have disappeared together and

he's not happy about that which i

believe is harry's plan yeah i think i

think he was running a distraction

oh that makes sense i think i missed

that

or maybe i'm maybe i'm reading too much

into it maybe but it does make sense

harry has been pretty supportive so far

this kid he's trying to help him out as

much as you can but does he like arty or

does he just hate this dick i think it's

both yeah it's both it's like two birds

one stone yeah both feed his ego

artie and ramona are in his truck parked

behind his

fraternity house yeah but he lives at

home with his parents we can't take her

home

right but he doesn't he go home and

sleep with his parents like at his

parents house every night yes yeah so

why doesn't he sleep at the fraternity

house if he has a fraternity well it's

the fraternity house i don't think he

has a room there i guess you could be

part of a fraternity and not live i

don't know i never pledged i i thought

they all stayed in the house is that

part of is that a must even during the

summer

i don't know

but they are in this car and they start

kissing when suddenly headlights are

shining through the back window and

ramona realizes that she's too old for

making out in cars with boys how old is

she relative to him because i figure

he's young he's probably

19 at most yeah is she that much older

than him

she's um i think she's old enough to

have other certain life experiences i

guess okay um

she could be at most 10 years older than

him

but she also may have started making out

with boys and cars at 14 or 15 and

and any amount of she could be 19 and be

like i'm too old for this

artie seems to chalk this up as a flat

rejection because as he said earlier god

wouldn't let nice things like this

happen to him

in his anatomy class arty is called on

and is

sorry comparative anatomy class oh sorry

uh in his comparative anatomy class arty

is called on and is unable to properly

trace the urogenital system when

prompted

arthur pops by to visit his dad at work

and when his dad says he wants him to

quit acting

and start working his dad admits that he

doesn't consider the prop work to be a

real job and he claims that he would he

would be okay if already was dropping

out of school for a real job but what

he's doing isn't a real job

at another audition the director yells

at ramona that she's not doing things

right and that she'll never be good

enough

that night already watches harry

sabotage a piece of the set and when the

time comes for the stagehands to move

the wall all the hooks break off of it

and they have to push it by hand and

this is also when ramona's out on the

stage and artie keeps trying to get her

attention from off stage yeah it really

bothered me

like it's like she's already on the

stage you missed your chance stop trying

to get her to look at you when she's in

the middle of a performance it's pretty

annoying just before heading out on

stage harry hands a screwdriver to

cookie and says i think you're gonna

need this and uh cookie tries to like

fight him right there but he gets far

enough out that it's like too late if

you wanted to fight me you should have

done it on the sidelines but i'm out on

stage now

and everybody else is holding him back i

don't go in for for pranks much during

performances but it's it's funny and

amusing to to watch harry cheese them

off from on stage right

knowing knowing when he can turn upstage

so the audience won't see him but that

the people backstage will see him yeah

that was fun to watch and every time it

happens cookie's like set on fire again

like god damn it yeah

artie surprises ramona in the prop house

with an enormous paper flower and they

both catch dr foldauer reciting

shakespeare to himself wearing a full

king's costume sitting on the throne

upstairs i loved this scene i just

thought it was really cute yeah it is

that he's just doing doing a scene by

himself yeah he's just fulfilling his

fantasy when nobody's watching yeah

she's like i don't think he's allowed to

be here she's like it's fine don't worry

about it

an older guy in the cast comes to harry

and tells him about a radio job in

chicago that he's applying for and he

needs 65 to get there so harry just

writes him a check right then and there

may i add that that uh 65 and at the

time was about 668 dollars now oh my god

so harry's doing all right it seems like

if you're writing a check for that much

but he is pissed off to do it yeah but

he's he's

making the claim that oh we're going to

get this i'm going to get this money

back when you land a job so it's going

to be fine but

it might not happen

artie and ramona go on a walk at night

and she starts crying she doesn't feel

motivated enough to keep at it and she's

starting to believe what the director

says that she's not cut out for this

artie tells her that she's actually a

part of the theater whereas he's just

you know working behind it and that he

doesn't know what he's doing and

he thinks that she's going to be great

if she just sticks to it and she says

that he'd make a very sensitive

playwright

because he knows people and he knows how

to listen and talk to people yeah i

don't understand why that instigates him

to want to be a writer though because

well because i guess because she

believes in him and she her

her opinion is now more important to him

than anything yeah yeah he believes in

her

and and and he adores her very

superficially and so what what she says

to him cuts right to the heart

and i don't think he actually is a very

good listener i don't think so either

but i also think this is probably the

first time anyone's ever given him a

compliment or said he's good at a thing

that he might want to do yeah so

like if someone told me hey you know

what you'd be good at ice cream tasting

and i would be like that's a job yeah

i'm going to sign up for that i'm going

to move to new york and taste ice cream

yeah yeah but i don't i just still don't

think that people just jump in like oh

writing i've never written anything in

my life that's what i'm going to do

i mean this guy did the guy who wrote

this movie did that kind of but i'm sure

he didn't do it on a whim because a girl

said hey you can write it's the problem

i have with i think it's spider-man 2

where the entire movie it's just like

so what should i do doctor and he's like

well if i were that guy i'd stop being

spider-man and it just cuts to him

throwing away the spider-man suit it's

like that's all you need like the doctor

just said stop being spider-man so he

stopped right and people like well what

would you do well i would go back to

being spider-man and then he's

spider-man again like every time he asks

somebody what they would do in his

position he just does whatever they say

no matter who it is yeah the point of

this whole story is that artie is uh

he's impressionable yeah very

impressionable and very naive and this

isn't breaking the naivete i mean it has

everything to do with the fact that he

doesn't know who he is yet yes

absolutely yeah yeah but at this the end

of this conversation with ramona she

asks how soon he can find them a place

because

she plans on making him a man of the

theater she wants to she wants to not be

in a car or hang out at his parents

house yeah she wants to have a place

together and she wants to make him more

confident in his abilities wait but not

a place for them together right like

just a place to go a place to have sex

yeah

she doesn't want to move in with him or

anything yeah

no uh the next day we hear the tail end

of a phone call and it seems that arty

is being ejected from his fraternity

no he he's looking for someone with a

spare room or a spare bed that yeah that

he can take ramona to that's all artie

brings another box of props to rehearsal

and it's he gets addressed down again

from the director before he turns his

target on harry who is missing and

wasting everybody's time

artie goes to find him at the bar and

he's on the phone uh he's trying to get

through to mickey bellinger's office

and arty's like you got to go back to

rehearsal the director's really mad and

he says

he doesn't want to waste his best years

here in this tiny theater he wants to be

back on broadway

and already worries out loud that if

harry is fired that he won't know what

to do with his life because he's kind of

using this guy as his

as his idol or his mascot here

he's like if you were gone i don't have

anybody i mean i have ramona i guess but

she's like a backup dancer and

she doesn't have the same kind of pull

that harry does where harry's constantly

stepping in and deflecting the director

yeah

redirecting the director redirecting

there you go

plus

ramona's very burnt out and harry still

summons up the right the uh vim and

energy to push push around people harry

says oh well you know what you're right

i'll go to the rehearsal i guess mickey

bellinger knows where to find me it's

strike night and the stagehands plan to

disassemble the stage as soon as the

actors leave it artie climbs the

backdrop and tips it forward

he rides it the whole way to the stage

but he walks off of it very gracefully

but i think this is like the first

moment of him actually bonding with the

other stagehands because he's like hey

look i figured out a funny way to do a

thing also did you mention that in in

the previous scene harry gave him a

spare key oh to the house right because

he needed a place yeah yeah so that's

actually what's more motivating him to

work quickly and be enthusiastic right

suddenly his parents show up they're

getting ready to [ __ ] all over artie's

livelihood again well they came because

he

used the excuse of strike night saying

i'm going to be out all night long right

and because he was going to go back to

harry's place and so his parents showed

up to be like i can't imagine why this

would take all night we wanted to see

what you were doing but i like that they

came after the show like they didn't

come to see the show no did they come to

see the show no i they literally just

came to see why it would take so long to

strike the stage okay i've always

thought that they did come to see the

show no i think they would have said at

least something about it or been

slightly more supportive but instead

they just came after the show because

they were like we don't give a [ __ ]

about the dumb show that you helped make

okay we just came here to tell you that

you're doing your job too slowly okay

and we're gonna stay here until you have

to go home yeah we're just gonna that's

really gonna be helpful just stand there

and watch

but harry intervenes very quickly to try

and schmooze them and it's working on

mom more than it's working on dad she's

like immediately like captivated by him

because of his his ability to perform so

harry's got to work extra hard to charm

them over because i've always thought

like they just watched the whole show

with him as the star right now the

star's backstage and talking to you

personally yeah no i i think they didn't

watch the show he's just winning them

over as

the best dressed man right in backstage

right now yeah paying attention to them

and he also starts with that strategy of

like i agree with you theater's a bunch

of garbage you guys are right your son's

wasting his life but and then he just

like goes into some arguments in favor

of it and how you know it's a it's a

fantasy land and yeah they they actually

help people by doing this

and uh somehow they leave excited about

their son's job i think mom more than

dad because even if they're walking off

stage the dad's like i don't know about

that though oh you're so suspicious yeah

mr suspicion but they also spot uh

arnie's dad spots the truck yeah he sees

ramona passed out in it right that's

because she's waiting for him after

breaking down the set artie brings

ramona back to harry's apartment and is

confused by mail that's addressed to

harold krebs and he's like i didn't know

harry had a roommate oh and they're both

named harry that's weird

yes but one of them has like an

acceptable acting name harry crystal and

the other one's harry krebs yeah but

clearly it's this this is the same guy

already talks about his thanksgiving

plans and ramona's like yeah i don't

know if we're gonna do thanksgiving

together um i don't usually plan that

far in advance uh they both undress and

with the exception of these

undergarments there's really not a whole

lot to remind us that this takes place

in the 50s

it seems like this could just easily

have happened in 1980. the furniture

maybe yeah i don't know i mean it's it's

small town cleveland in the middle of

the summer like i feel like

everything that happened so far could

have happened in 1980 and that would

have been a timeless tale yeah

it is

uh i gotta say though this scene is nuts

yeah when you know everything that's

going on and you look back at it

especially just even on the surface

level that that ramona tells him like

you scare me sometimes because you're so

naive and you're floating in a bubble

and it's going to burst yeah and he does

not let that sink in he just roar

awful yeah

and there's that's what i want yeah

there's definitely something she should

be saying right here yeah she's just

leaving leaving out yep artie is

temporarily cock-blocked by a phone call

from mickey bellinger

he will be there thursday to see the

show

artie tells harry and uh i feel like i

wouldn't have

uh already already tells harry about

mickey and he gets very hyped up about

it hold on

back check that why wouldn't you have

because

he does the show well every night people

appreciate the performance yeah but i

feel like that's not true because i

think when he sees mickey

i think he's overdoing it when he sees

mickey but

that's for him to decide to do yeah sure

but i i felt like what might have been a

better approach would be like my parents

are going to come this night can you

just try and do you know give it a

little extra

for for that's insulting i don't agree

yeah i don't agree because if you tell

him oh mickey bellen is going to be

there that night and then he [ __ ] it

all up because he's like

psyches himself out about it all he

cares about is this next big gig that he

wants to get from mickey millinger yeah

but he might be able to he might be more

likely to get this job if

he it's like a subtle like realistic

performance that he does every night

rather than

this one that he does which is like this

hyped up kind of silly a little bit like

i feel like they even try and make the

performance look goofy when he's doing

it on stage for mickey yeah well the

material is naturally goofy yeah that's

true i must say and also

you know live theater is not about

subtlety that's true but harry's all

excited he thinks that it's like a

featured role in a rogers and

hammerstein musical when it's already

clear to us that he's going to be very

disappointed with whatever whatever he

has to bring yeah he's got high hopes

but for no reason he just assumes what's

the best possible thing mickey could

want to see me about leaving the theater

that afternoon artie's father pulls up

and takes him for a drive he got a

letter from the dean informing him that

his son has officially dropped out of

college and uh he'll be getting his

tuition refunded and he says wonderful

father can use it to buy a gun to kill

himself

or you he tells his dad that he wants to

move to new york and be a playwright

even though he doesn't really know what

a playwright is i mean it especially

sucks that this happened because

he made a promise at the beginning of

this film he promised he said i took

this job and if it becomes too much i

will quit this job i will stay in school

i will study if it becomes too much and

he did exactly the opposite of that

that's true

at the show that night dr faldower

brings his granddaughter

mickey ballinger's seat is still empty

as the play begins a cab pulls up and

mickey enters the theater

probably 15 minutes into the show

but everybody's been watching through a

hole in the curtain to see when mickey

was there and by the time he goes out on

stage harry thinks that he's not he's

not showing but in the middle of the

show he notices mickey sitting in the

chair and then he turns his performance

up five notches actually i like when the

cab drops him off yeah because the

the cabbie's like well the show's half

over like enjoy and he's yeah that's all

right

i don't really care yeah backstage

sherman the director is throwing a fit

because there's no entrance for the

background dancers party loses his

patience well uh but before that hayden

harry notices and doesn't tell anybody

and and he just maneuvers through the

scenery to get around oh interesting to

make his entrance yeah because he he

comes back for the one of the props and

he goes where

where's the entrance yeah and then he

says i forget it and he runs

he wins all the way around yeah so now

artie is is mad because sherman's

chewing everybody out about it and he

pulls out a knife and he just stabs

sherman to death here no

one of the stage hands thinks that's

gonna happen yeah i guess was like oh my

god yeah yeah no

no

[Laughter]

uh but you know he cuts a big uh he he

draws a door draw a door

knock three times i think it would have

been even better if already pulls out

the knife and dr faldower as the

security goes knife

[Music]

it already just dies backstage

i think i might have liked that ending

better um

blood spatters all over mickey ballinger

and he just stands up to applaud his

show

it's like birdman the doctor's proud for

having done his job

uh but yeah he cuts he cuts a big

rectangle in the in this backdrop that

everybody can sneak through to dance and

he tells sherman that he's a big prick

watching the performance i'm guessing

that bellinger takes someone other than

harry possibly ramona although that

wouldn't make a lot of sense because

she's a background dancer and not a

great one at that according to sherman

standards bellinger half applauds

looking relatively bored and leaves in a

rush

backstage ballinger tells harry hey you

know what i got something lined up it's

a second lead in the student prince it

sounds like it's a touring group where

harry was looking for something on

broadway that would stay in place

and as he walks away from harry he asks

where the lead dancer is because he'd

like to have a conversation with her

harry is obviously very upset and takes

this out on everyone around him starting

with dr faldauer and his granddaughter i

was i was worried during the show that

fall dower was going to be like oh you

know what there's an open seat right

there you can sit right there and let

her take mickey ballinger's seat and

that he wasn't even going to be have a

place to sit for the show and he's going

to leave and that harry was just going

to murder him okay

no yeah i i thought that bellinger

wanted to talk to ramona specifically

yes

okay yeah

and

to harry's credit he

he thinks less of bellinger at first and

says hey you know she's kind of spoken

for

but but bellinger uh um

defends himself by saying no no i just

want to i just i just want to talk to

her yeah it's just professional i'm not

here for a thrill yeah because he's

trying to defend her for artie that's

right which is actually as we find out

later not true yeah right

[Laughter]

and maybe that's not even what harry met

he yes yeah we don't know exactly who's

defending or for what yeah harry just

starts screaming at the granddaughter

because she's like playing with the

props and parts of the stage

and he's just like what are you doing

like you can't be back here and chewing

her out he doesn't care about any of

this but he's pretending to be very

upset about it because he needs someone

to yell at and dr faldower is

embarrassed and everybody feels really

sorry for him and harry's basically

going to get him fired he tells sherman

to get this guy off the stage and keep

him away from the theater

he moves back to his dressing room to

smoke and when artie comes in he

he's very mad at harry because that

wasn't called for it's like you know if

bellinger pissed you off yell at

bellinger later we see bellinger and

ramona leaving the theater at the same

time

and ramona tells artie that bellinger

promised her a role in a cole porter

show with lines and a solo and already

seems like a very unsupportive dick here

like they're sitting in the car together

and she's like oh i got all this cool

stuff he's like great

how long were you guys in there together

and it's like first of all you should

have been like that's really cool

no matter what you should have been

supportive for this thing that she

clearly wanted and got lead with that

first

but she admits that she let bellinger

feel her up for the role

and when artie asks

how

new york is supposed to work she admits

oh you know what i'm also married

so new york is not going to happen i

don't know why you thought we were going

to move there together this this is a

big moment yeah especially for okay so i

don't i don't want to just rush over it

yeah uh because he's just so devastated

that he he's quit school

he's yelled at his dad and

uh and all this is coming crashing down

on him now

and and she's just sitting there and he

starts the car and he's just like

sitting there staring while the car is

idling i was like i was like well

get out of the car ramona yeah i was

like wait why isn't that happening yeah

i would have said

get out of the car he's still trying to

be a gentleman about it really he really

is but i think he's also realizing in

this moment that right now

he didn't quit school for the theater he

quit school specifically for her that's

right

and so when that falls apart he's like

oh [ __ ] like i just totaled my life

for a married lady who is not interested

in me in that way and she sent me

signals for this whole movie but he

wasn't picking him up so artie goes home

and he tells his father hey i'm quitting

the theater i'm going to go back to

school and his dad

while probably happy to hear that he's

gonna go back to school seems genuinely

sad for him yeah like he doesn't like to

see his son upset obviously

but uh we'll turn that right around

backstage at the theater already admits

to harry that he's considering leaving

and harry says no you're not you're

hooked on this and you're going to be

here forever he has a quick

uncomfortable moment with ramona where

they kind of lock eyes and then turn

away from each other awkwardly because

that's over now and harry claims to have

signed with an even bigger agent than

bellinger he's looking for it he's

hoping to yeah yeah uh but he's he's

still going to do the road show right

and he assures arty that there's always

a bigger agent there's always a better

job

and there's always a prettier girl and

then harry takes to the stage to sing

the man with the heart of a king and

close out the show to write us applause

and that's the end of our film i like

that harry comes around at the end after

his big disappointment i think that it

shows why he's lasted

his business for so long that he doesn't

let things you know hang over him yeah

he gets pissed off for a day and then he

gets over it and he's like all right if

i don't keep trying then this isn't

going to work it's never going to happen

right

but he also it also forces people to

stay at a distance from him because you

never know when he's gonna go

go off on you he's gotten cold but i

also would love to see

the moment when artie gets home and he's

like just kidding dad i'm quitting

school again and i'm gonna work at the

theater again because i don't know if

they use i i don't know about that i

feel like the implication is that

that he's getting this

uh from harry like oh i thought you were

like done with it you were so pissed off

at everybody that you were gonna leave

but you have to stick it out and you're

telling me i'm gonna stick it out so i

guess i am i don't know if i believe he

definitely is going back because i think

that in addition to it showing why harry

has been in this so long

it also shows that he's just sort of in

la la land he's just he is out and he's

gotten that that bug and and he doesn't

have that sense of realism like maybe i

should pack this in and do something

else yeah and he's like maybe i don't

know people as well as i thought he does

not yeah but he's learning right

uh also

harry uh begins to slightly warm back up

to

dr faldower backstage because he says

hey kid as he's passing by yeah

i believe um even though this is based

on somebody else's life who did get into

theater beginning in med school i see um

uh artie's future as something more like

dr faldower where he will discover it

later in life yeah he'll he'll come back

and be a security guard for a couple of

summers yeah

until an actor chews him out she's at

his own grandchild yeah and then he'll

he'll resign an embarrassment after

shooting a stagehand who he thought was

going to stab the jordan he's got a

knife

our director here was michael pressman

before this he directed

bad news bears

in breaking training which i think is

the third film no that's the second one

second installment of the franchise uh

immediately after this he did dr detroit

yeah but then it's mostly tv movies in

the 80s and he came back to do teenage

mutant ninja turtles 2 secret of the

ooze and lately he has a lot of yeah ooh

uh he has a lot of prestige tv credits

lately a lot of law orders a couple

justifieds including one a friend of

mine wrote vijay wrote the episode that

he directed and uh he also produced lake

placid

our writer here david shaber i said

before that he wrote the warriors and

last embrace he also wrote nighthawks

and somehow he's an uncredited

screenwriter on hunt for red october

but he his writing credit for the

warriors shows up again in the warriors

video game for xbox that came out frank

langella was harry crystal he was nixon

in frost v nixon frost v nixon is that

what it's called i think yes it's called

was it just frost next

that's it yeah they're not fighting yeah

that would be a better movie

fighting it's like face off and frost

nixon yeah the slash you just move

through it

i want to see like nixon's head pop off

like a rock on soccer robot i want to

take nixon's face

off

[Laughter]

uh he was also skeletor

masters of the universe right and he's

frank in real life and in the movie

frank from uh frank

is it what is a movie called robot

robot and frank not frank and robot

because i was like frank and robot

sounds wrong that's not right it sounds

like frankenstein yeah he's frank from

robot and frank and he's boris balkan

from the ninth gate yeah yeah that's

like a good role that i like for him

is that with johnny depp yeah yeah

that's weird

i liked that one i want to say uh before

this uh uh l langella worked on stage a

lot and he continued to do two he won a

tony award for playing dracula in 1977.

and also won a tony award for a show

called seascapes which is about um a

husband and wife who talked to

lizards on their yard okay

and before this he was um

the first american cast member to play

salieri in amadeus on stage oh

interesting

oh no after this pardon me it was 1985

when he did that oh okay glennis

o'connor was ramona she's the girl next

door and love interest of john travolta

in the boy in the plastic bubble a tv

movie directed by randall kleiser

director of the blue lagoon and flight

of the navigator sally and johnny

dangerously which i think is the

brothers fiancee yes um that's a that's

a fun scene so where he's like i'm gonna

get married and he's like shows him a

video of why he shouldn't have sex

the whole movie's fun yeah it's like

your nuts are gonna explode uh tom hulse

was artie shoemaker speaking of amadeus

he was larry kroger in animal house he's

the voice of quasimodo and disney's

hunchback of notre dame he plays larry

and parenthood but he's probably best

known for playing amadeus in amadeus

which earned him an oscar nomination i

wonder if he's also the singing voice in

hunchback i'm sure he is yeah

interesting

what's wrong with me

i think you're lazy what a second

opinion you're also crazy

jerry stiller was mr schumacher uh he

plays frank costanza on seinfeld he

works often with son ben stiller in

films like zoolander and heavyweights

and reality bites we had his wife ann

mirra earlier this year in fame

and for our patreon

review of out of towners she was the

woman whose purse keeps getting stolen

jerry was also lieutenant rico patron in

the taking of pelham one two three

he is wilbur turnblad and hairspray and

we just lost him just lost him a couple

of weeks ago so that's a bummer he's a

funny guy

herbert bergdoff was dr julius faldauer

he's rivetowski and harry and tattoo

from the director of our next film

he played theodotus in cleopatra and he

was franz calder in red planet mars

which sounds like a cool one kevin

mccarthy was mickey bellinger i love

kevin mccarthy yeah absolutely uh he was

the campaign manager earlier this year

in hero at large he's in the 1956

invasion of the body snatchers my second

favorite version of that story dr hoke

in piranha he played fred francis in the

howling he's victor scrimshaw and

interspace yeah and uh uhf is his best

role i feel like every time you mention

him i'm like who is that

and you tell me all these roles and i

know and then when i get to uhf do you

remember him from uhm he's the guy that

runs the network station i've seen that

maybe once like a long time ago a uhf

station i've been wanting to tell people

about this for years but because um he

only died maybe 10 or 12 years ago yeah

and stayed in the public eye for for a

long time

as he aged and got older he began to

look like moe howard as mo howard was

very old okay so up until the day he

died i was hoping for him to be cast as

old mo howard in some production

somewhere that'd be interesting but it

never happened so it can't be

interesting

uh joseph mar

or maher played phibi guyer

that was dr coulson in just tell me what

you want earlier this year uh he'll be

back next year in going ape and under

the rainbow he plays lucas budlong and

my stepmother is an alien

bishop o'hara in sister act yeah and

white house decorator in mars attacks

uh george moore fogan played sherman

spratt the director he'll be back later

this year as dawn dowd in times square

he's also leon leondopoulos and they all

laughed next year which i think was

dorothy stratton's first and last uh

studio film

the one that peter bogdanovich directed

her in

marshall colt was cookie he's the father

in flowers in the attic

rose eric was mrs schumacher she's

gloria cunliffe in

a new leaf she's mrs clark dustin

hoffman's mom in ishtar

william robertson was mr henry earlier

this year he was a bomb in hero at large

who ritter buys coffee for even though

he's broke he'll be back later this year

as a guard in christmas evil which was

his final credit

randy stumpf played loomis i don't know

who loomis was but his only other

feature credit was andy in silent night

deadly night he's one of the prankster

uh

backstage hands too

uh jordan charney was the professor

hey dean yeager yeah exactly uh our

second jaeger in a row after chuck in

our previous film smokey and the bandit

two was this the one when we were

watching the film and you're like who is

this guy he plays a dean in something

yeah right that's exactly what i said

that's right i couldn't figure it out

and then you pulled it up and i was like

oh my god i'm such an idiot something

indeed and here he is still working in

the the college he never left the campus

no uh harry hunter in network and he's

also hitchcock in the hospital which is

a fun one uh deborah goodrich was

another dancer she plays nicki in april

fool's day she's debra and just one of

the guys and she's jenny and out on a

limb with matthew broderick

jennifer engsat played dreamboat number

two i don't know what that means this

was her first feature film but she'll

show up as judith in 1982's blood song

which is the horror movie we mentioned a

lot written by luca brazzi about a

killer murdering people who have

received his blood and transfusions

then uh she disappeared for a while and

her next credit was

as an auditioner in 2008's zach and miri

make a porno and then she played sam's

mom in the perks of being a wallflower

the the plays that that they're actually

performing the musicals are are quite

interesting to me yeah the first one

that that we see is is called the the

desert song right and this taking place

in 1951 and harry complaining about oh

they're playing they're just performing

all these old musicals i got to get out

of this town

uh the the desert song was first

performed in 1926. okay so i would say

he's within his right to say it's out of

touch yeah uh but it's it's a very

interesting story because it's a romance

adventure story about a french officer

who is secretly in disguise as a

character called the red shadow who is

in fact the leader of a band of of arab

rebels called the the rifts

and so it's um

it was influenced by a real uh uh

uprising in morocco where a tribe uh

fought off spanish colonists in 1921 huh

and it was also inspired by the renown

of t.e lawrence

uh who went on to inspire lawrence of

arabia and and also the uh the

popularity of rudolph valentino oh okay

so all that you know 30 years later

they're still performing it in ohio it's

interesting there was already a play

five years later for that of that story

it was popular yeah we really it really

caught on yeah yeah so we um we hear

some songs from that and and those are

the scenes of course when people are

talking about camels or wearing

headdresses and things like that yeah um

we also see the red mill

which is a comedy that was first

performed in 1906

so much older much older but it had five

years but it had a revival in 1945 which

kept it in the the the public mind and

so that's why they're still performing

it in 1951

that is about two american vaudevillians

who wreak havoc at an inn in holland and

they interview the they interfere with

two separate marriages that are planned

okay here's one that actually has some

still relevance in pop culture rosemary

which is a romantic drama right that was

the the one where where they they were

dressed as mounties marching around and

dancing

so that that's about um a canadian girl

and a mine worker who are in love but

the mine worker is um

is suspected of murder the girl rosemary

her brother suggests that she ditched

the mindworker for a wealthy town man

instead

okay and um and that rose marie song was

very popular and re-recorded by

by slim whitman

okay

in addition to the uh another song from

that show which you also hear a little

bit of

indian love call yeah i was going to say

uh slim whitman's indian love call is

the only song i know by slim whitman

because it's the one that they use at

the end of mars attacks that's right to

blow the aliens heads up that's right

yeah so it's from this show

this drama i didn't realize that that's

awesome yeah so one of these shows used

lyrics that

caused us to have this title those lips

those eyes yeah from the vagabond king

okay that's the last show does he even

say it in the movie kind of it's like

you hear it from off stage you hear you

you hear him say that there's focus on

it it's not lyrics but in fact dialogue

the story goes that a a french poet and

thief

woos a member of french royalty and um

and then he becomes king for a day and

defends france against the duke of

burgundy first produced in 1925 the

dialogue as far as i can tell that

inspires the title is this thief poet

character of course played by harry in

the story he says and to swear

allegiance to your lips your eyes your

hair beneath your feet what treasures i

would fling if i were king

okay so it's paraphrasing that it

it means the thing that you're looking

at the thing that you are enamored with

the your passion that you're chasing in

life the stories about people who are

passionate yeah and the stories about

people falling in or out of love with

something i think that that's a great

analysis of the title i think that that

sounds accurate to me but i think coming

from it from the outside if you are

going to go see a movie it's a terrible

title absolutely you have no idea what

all that means and also it's it's a very

strange choice to paraphrase the

dialogue if you're if it's a reference

to that part of the dialogue you should

use the line from the play right

shouldn't infer it should be really

obvious yeah yeah i it really bothered

me so you'd be like b or not b

do it or don't suicide question mark

going into this movie i once again i

don't think i was listening at the end

of the episode when you described what

we were going to be watching because i

usually tune out at that point i i was

thinking that we were going to go in and

watch some horror movie or something you

know that it was going to be

lips and eyeballs all over the floor wow

it was going to be about some stalker or

something some pervert the the last

thing you see are his lips in his eyes

yeah some obsessed man or something

but i mean i guess we did see a movie

about a man obsessed with theater but it

was a little bit of a letdown based on

the fact that i thought it was gonna be

a horror movie he was like he pulled out

a knife finally

this is a slow burn movie it does kind

of sound like someone's last words as

they're dying like those lips those eyes

as they bleed out

yeah yellow eyes oh my god yes oh my god

yellow

christmas story also also recorded in

ohio and takes place in ohio around the

same time period oh interesting yeah in

fact i had seen this movie before this

podcast was ever launched because my god

again yeah yeah yeah because both of my

parents were born and raised in ohio

okay and just about maybe five or six

years ago

um so uh going further back um my dad is

the third youngest of seven children

okay

and he grew up he

he he was born in the late 40s and so he

and a lot of his siblings would have

been about artie's uh kid's brother's

age right now okay in the story um in

fact i would say his older siblings

would have been that age when this story

takes place so

uh his sisters knew people who performed

at the theater that this was inspired oh

interesting that they were recorded at

the one that he actually worked at at

this time period the screenwriter that's

right okay and so

six

or seven years ago or so my dad told me

about hey my sister told me that this

movie is going to be on cable i'll

record it for you um it was it was it

was recorded in ohio at a theater that

that was real and um and i

i watched it because he said like it's

about the this this kid who takes place

in theater i thought well that's for me

yeah

and um and so i was really glad for this

opportunity to come on and and and share

it with uh with all of you yeah

absolutely about it

we appreciate it so based on the fact

that was it four or five

different performances four four was it

four

i feel like this movie takes place over

a longer period of time than it feels

like it looks like a week

if yeah it looks like a week it's at

least four weeks

well at least four weeks any given one

performance has got to probably be on

for you know two to three weeks a

minimum right no you can see a banner at

the beginning uh

when the first show is being performed

it has tools two nights yeah each show

gets like friday and saturday every

friday and saturday yeah

how did they

turn over the theater this quickly for

all these shows and learn all these

performances and it just seems crazy

that harry could even keep all these

shows in his head well it doesn't sound

like they're so fresh that he's having

to learn them yeah yeah i guess they're

old so it's familiar popular shows and

hey that's theater baby yeah

but but also that that's what sherman is

upset with ramona about during rehearsal

um

uh

later on throughout the movie he he

keeps insulting her and calling her

twinkle toes or miss new york because

she it takes her a while to get to know

the the dance moves that they're trying

to teach she's new to it because she's

she's new or she's not as great or maybe

she's too old now sure but um the

turnover is incredible you have to be an

incredibly adept dancer you they don't

have time for you to get to know it you

just need to pick it up immediately and

run with it so it's difficult yeah

um

i'm gonna i'm gonna give it a down

unfortunately i don't think i would

recommend this movie to anyone i think

that it suffers from the fact that

you know like we said at the beginning

if you're a theater person i think you

get it and i think you might enjoy this

movie but if you're not a theater person

i don't think it has a broad appeal i

don't think that a lot really happens in

the film and it's not super satisfying

so

i give it a down i i think i'm i with

the same points have the same uh

diagnosis i give it a down also probably

uh i also give it a down um i was

uncertain as to whether i'm supposed to

be following artie or harry yeah i feel

like artie is the main character but

harry has the more interesting plot line

yeah absolutely of

is he gonna make it is this call gonna

come through is his life going to get

better where artie's life is already

kind of okay he's making a lot of bad

decisions and that's that's that's great

but i was really more interested in what

was happening with harry and whether or

not

these things were going to happen for

him and we don't even really get a

concrete answer to that like is this

other gig going to work out with this

new agent or

is the touring thing going to be a step

up from what he's doing now right it's

it's it's unclear at the end uh where

where he's going uh patrick i assume

this is an up from you

it is yeah yeah i i would recommend this

i gotta admit i would recommend it more

to theater people

but at least i can give out a

recommendation yes so i feel a little

bit bad because i think that this is a

very capably made movie right it was

shot well i think all the acting was

great um

i didn't have any problems with you know

the dialogue or the acting or the the

general premise it just wasn't super

interesting there just wasn't enough of

a hook i i i see why

he was he sold two other scripts

before he could get one

yeah and why this was a flop yeah that's

true why we haven't heard of this one

yeah this didn't catch on it's obscure

um

i've i've i've been meaning to to ask

and now i can since you have all watched

uh caddyshack on here this feels like

the unsuccessful dramatic version of

caddyshack yeah i can see that where

where caddyshack starts out pretending

to be about the caddy

and then your attention gets grabbed by

all the other kooky crazy colorful

characters yeah and by the end of it

like huh there was a

there was a kid's future at stake here

no yeah not really yeah yeah

interesting no that i can see the

comparison there definitely but this

rides with the kid all the way and even

by the end like well goodbye i don't

know if i care yeah

we even disagreed personally on on at

the end of this film if he walks away

from it or if he sticks to the theater

it's not clear and that's art

yeah

um letterbox list what are we thinking

jess uh so i'm gonna put this uh it's

pretty far down the list it's somewhere

in the 70s and i didn't count exactly

but it's uh right below holy moses and

right above the high cost of living okay

richard uh i have i have it a little bit

higher uh it's going to be just below a

small circle of friends and just above

hangar 18

which puts it at number 61.

okay

and i guess i should say that mine's

this low not because it's a bad movie

but just because i don't think i ever

need to watch it again and this is the

order in which i would re-watch a movie

right

excellent point

i had a thrill of re-watching this

actually because like i said it's not

years ago and then i re-watched it twice

to to freshen up for this but um

i gotta say there are many better movies

that exist especially better movies came

from this same year uh so keeping in

mind that i've only seen about 20 or so

of the movies that you've all seen so

far um i would put this like two-thirds

of the way down from me um

right below coal miner's daughter and

right above where the buffalo room okay

um i actually have it

kind of in the middle it's in 48th place

um for me it's just under midnight

madness just above heiden plain sight

a little bit higher on mine i have this

zone of movies where it's like

i understand the story and and the

screenwriter didn't do a bad job it's

just

not my thing and that it falls right in

that in that section

i was wondering uh how how you guys were

going to approach all the uh

the theater details uh because it

genuinely was funny uh listening to you

all talk about the naginsky movie and

admit that you didn't know anything

about it yeah yeah

and

that's still the case by the way we

haven't

we don't know any more about the stage

than we did then to be fair i i do a

little bit i actually worked at an opera

theater for a while

i do know some of this stuff don't say

you're so so short

but it was not relevant to what this guy

did because you worked in the props

department making things for this i

don't know anything about it

i don't know anything about ballet so i

don't know djinsky but i know right i

know behind the stage i know i was it

was scenic carpentry that i did so it

was a different department than props

but i i was friends with the props

people yeah nice you made some cool

i guess they're not technically they

were scenery i didn't do props you did

gates and

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she wanted to get married

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we'll uh yeah

you know it drives me crazy but i mean

every time i see the picture i forget

the other guy's name

he's sad jesus

i think so it might be uh

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